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Thewombles
01-10-2012, 01:21 PM
Have recently posted a thread on the stringing forum after I had problems stringing my Ki5.
Have since found out it has an 18x20 stringing pattern but should be 16x20 as it says on the specs.
Was suggested it was not genuine but having looked at pics mine is exactly the same (apart from the extra grommets).
Bought it resale although it came to me new and unstrung and, having read an old thread on Pro Kennex rackets wondered if it was a Seppi racket?
Any thoughts anyone, would be interested to hear??
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r93/xXHerBrokenHeartXx/acket002.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r93/xXHerBrokenHeartXx/racket006.jpg
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r93/xXHerBrokenHeartXx/racket003.jpg

ollinger
01-10-2012, 02:06 PM
Shine the "SH" beacon on the clouds to summon "The Prokennex Whisperer."

getsby
01-10-2012, 02:56 PM
very strange brand. on the early series racquets virtually no weight is specified, no balance. judging by the photo-one string forgotten stretch :-?

athiker
01-10-2012, 03:09 PM
Not much help except I can say the PJ is identical to my 16 x 20 that I bought direct from TW. It was in their website Used section, not the FS/FT forum section, so I would hope mine is authentic. The spec section in the throat is also identical...font, words, spacing...everything.

Only difference I can find is the hole drill pattern.

Kemitak
01-10-2012, 03:21 PM
Looks like a box beam, whereas a normal Ki5 has a flat, inside hoop, and a curved, outside. Maybe it is a Seppi racquet...
It might be a Heritage Type C 98, which I know Seppi used to use.

Geology_Rocks!
01-10-2012, 04:07 PM
Does it makes the ''sand noise'' if you swing it close to your ear?

tennisinoc
01-10-2012, 04:31 PM
Are the photos shown your racket? I'm confused about your question if it is.
Im asking because the photo shows 16x20 string pattern.
Not 18x20.

mikeler
01-10-2012, 04:56 PM
Does it makes the ''sand noise'' if you swing it close to your ear?


Good thinking. To the OP, shake the racket violently next to your ear and see if you hear the "sand noise" in the frame.

ironickid7
01-10-2012, 05:02 PM
i was thinking the same thing, i kept counting the mains and coming up with 16, so i'm confused as well.

frunk
01-10-2012, 05:12 PM
The OP hasn't strung the last 2 grommets on the mains.

Faithfulfather
01-10-2012, 05:14 PM
The last main grommet has no string in it, that is why you guys are counting 16 mains. Where did you buy it from? Check the person's references. If you can weight and balance it out, that might give you a clue if it is authentic.

mmk
01-10-2012, 05:29 PM
The OP hasn't strung the last 2 grommets on the mains.

Right, but it is labeled as 16 mains, which he has. Check his thread in the stringing techniques forum. I think it was a manufacturing problem that didn't get caught by Inspector #9.

movdqa
01-10-2012, 05:31 PM
What does it weigh strung?

Paging vsbabolat.

tennisinoc
01-10-2012, 05:45 PM
The OP hasn't strung the last 2 grommets on the mains.

Ah, I see it now. I wasnt looking at the grommets, just counted the strings.
I would actually be interested in playing with the extra 2 outside strings.
I don't think it would make much difference but perhaps more stablilty on the outer hoop? But if I was hitting the ball there, it most likely would be hitting the frame as well. But it would be an interesting playtest to see if string pattern makes a difference vs string spacing. (Im guessing string spacing is the bigger factor)

SteveI
01-10-2012, 05:52 PM
Looks like a box beam, whereas a normal Ki5 has a flat, inside hoop, and a curved, outside. Maybe it is a Seppi racquet...
It might be a Heritage Type C 98, which I know Seppi used to use.

I am with you. I think he has a Seppi frame, custom or a prototype frame. Hard to think it is a fake that they made to be a box beam with 18 x 20 pattern. With fakes they are trying to make the frames pass for the real thing.. not draw attention to the differences.

Box beam for sure... nothing like a 5G or Ki5 that I have owned.

anirut
01-10-2012, 06:06 PM
I'm with Kemitak & SteveI. It's a box beam. Can't be a "normal" Ki5. Check the beam width too. Also weight it up and see if it's close to 340ish grams (12 Oz). If it's actually a Type C Mid+ then the OP got real lucky.

Thewombles
01-11-2012, 12:05 AM
Thanks for the replies.
The strung weight is 131/8oz.(372g), the beam is 3/4"(20mm).
New to stringing, hence the incorrect stringing pattern.
For your interest, bought the racket originally as have long standing TE issues and thought this racket might help. Strung it with Wilson Shock Shield at 58lb. My thinking was to play around with strings and tensions and hopefully find one that suits my arm.
Only played with it once, so not sure yet.
Not really sure what to think of it now as not certain what I have got.
If it is a Type C as suggested by a couple of people, does it still have the Kinetic technology and will it be arm-friendly?
Any other suggestions would be welcome.

AdAraujo
01-11-2012, 02:07 AM
I think someone got a real players stick :)

getsby
01-11-2012, 02:25 AM
Thanks for the replies.
The strung weight is 131/8oz.(372g),
372g in stock form, or customs?

movdqa
01-11-2012, 03:27 AM
If you get a chance, you might peek under the bumper.

SteveI
01-11-2012, 03:42 AM
Thanks for the replies.
The strung weight is 131/8oz.(372g), the beam is 3/4"(20mm).
New to stringing, hence the incorrect stringing pattern.
For your interest, bought the racket originally as have long standing TE issues and thought this racket might help. Strung it with Wilson Shock Shield at 58lb. My thinking was to play around with strings and tensions and hopefully find one that suits my arm.
Only played with it once, so not sure yet.
Not really sure what to think of it now as not certain what I have got.
If it is a Type C as suggested by a couple of people, does it still have the Kinetic technology and will it be arm-friendly?
Any other suggestions would be welcome.

You lucky dog. I am guessing you thought you got taken... now it seems you got a ProStock frame... cool!!!. The Type C was not a Kinetic model but yes it is quite easy on the arm. Flex is or was 58/60.. or so. If you can't use it.. I am sure you can sell it on Talk Tennis. What is the grip size???

Enjoy..

Geology_Rocks!
01-11-2012, 04:58 AM
Yeah, I think you got a player frame, considering the box beam, the string pattern and weight. Congrats :D

I don't think it has the kinetic tec.

Enjoy(2).

SteveI
01-11-2012, 05:52 AM
Seppis racket....

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l493/Steve1300/3933527343_c3712920fb_b.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l493/Steve1300/andreas-seppi-tennis-0611091nho0j4KQ2X-profile.jpg

SteveI
01-11-2012, 05:57 AM
If you get a chance, you might peek under the bumper.

Yes...peek under the bumper. Measure the balance point and racket length. I am told Seppi is using an extended frame...:-)

Enjoy...

movdqa
01-11-2012, 06:38 AM
These pictures and stats are from a post on another forum claiming to be selling Seppi Pro stocks. I didn't post any of the ad information (seller, price, etc) as per TW forum rules and all of the frames went fairly quickly anyways. I just posted the pictures and stats. Note the different paintjob from what he's using now. You could look at the pictures to see if yours looks like it has the same mold and string pattern.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/005feo.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/004qpu.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/003rb.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/148/002iam.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/231/001gup.jpg/

head size : 98" /630cm²
XL lenght 70 cm
330 gr unstrung ( silicone under handle / no lead )
353 strung with overgrip & bumper
balance strung 31
grip size L2 ( 4.1/8 ) butt you can change

SteveI
01-11-2012, 06:47 AM
These pictures and stats are from a post on another forum claiming to be selling Seppi Pro stocks. I didn't post any of the ad information (seller, price, etc) as per TW forum rules and all of the frames went fairly quickly anyways. I just posted the pictures and stats. Note the different paintjob from what he's using now. You could look at the pictures to see if yours looks like it has the same mold and string pattern.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/005feo.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/004qpu.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/003rb.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/148/002iam.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/231/001gup.jpg/

head size : 98" /630cm²
XL lenght 70 cm
330 gr unstrung ( silicone under handle / no lead )
353 strung with overgrip & bumper
balance strung 31
grip size L2 ( 4.1/8 ) butt you can change

Great work.. Nice pics..

anirut
01-11-2012, 10:53 AM
Thewombles, you're a lucky dude!

The original Type C has 20% Kevlar, has no kinetic tech, and is pretty easy on the arm. Just make sure you have the right strokes for it.

Thewombles
01-11-2012, 01:02 PM
Done some measurements:
Head size 98".
Strung weight 372g (though not strung correctly as missing 2 strings)
Beam 20mm
Length 70cm.
Feel it might just be a bit heavy for me, used to 300g or thereabouts but will try it out some more.

mikeler
01-11-2012, 01:22 PM
Done some measurements:
Head size 98".
Strung weight 372g (though not strung correctly as missing 2 strings)
Beam 20mm
Length 70cm.
Feel it might just be a bit heavy for me, used to 300g or thereabouts but will try it out some more.


So it is extended length.

SteveI
01-11-2012, 01:58 PM
So it is extended length.

He has a Seppi.... cool....

Drop me an e-mail if you are looking to unload it. Do you have the gripsize???

Thewombles
01-11-2012, 02:44 PM
Grip Size is 41/4. No.2.
Don't know if this means anything but just noticed it has 1 TMLG very faintly printed on the end cap under the Logo?
Don't know anything about this subject. Are Pro Stock rackets generally intended for sale?

movdqa
01-11-2012, 02:47 PM
> Are Pro Stock rackets generally intended for sale?

Absolutely not.

Your specs line up well with the Seppi pro stock specs that I posted above except for the weight. There are a few things that could explain that though.

The end cap could refer to the customizer. Does it feel like it has a custom-molded handle? Is there any flaring near the buttcap or is the handle unidirectional?

BTW, the weight on your frame is pretty close to what I'm playing with though I'd guess that yours is more flexible than mine are. I should watch some of Seppi's matches to see what kind of power levels he's getting with that frame. He must be hitting some pretty big shots with that kind of weight.

Thewombles
01-11-2012, 02:56 PM
Hadn't actually noticed until you said, but the end has quite a flared shape.
Is this not standard?