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DjokovicForTheWin
01-18-2012, 06:42 AM
No more wikipaedia for a day. Can't even think :(

LameTennisPlayer
01-18-2012, 06:45 AM
^^^
haha me too! its annoying, tried to use it a couple of times without actually reading it was down for 24hrs, thought it was a some glitch lol.

downs_chris
01-18-2012, 07:07 AM
if you're really desperate, you can right-click and view source of the wiki page (first doing a search using google)...then you can kind of read it, through all the html tags...good luck!

anhuynh16
01-18-2012, 07:10 AM
I think there protesting about a bill. This bill could affect TT also!!

GoSurfBoy
01-18-2012, 07:12 AM
It's in protest, today, of the SOPA Bill. Like so much these days, especially in America, your freedom and rights are being subverted, like the illegal NDAA bill der Fuhrer just signed - and is already being sued for.

Craigslist.org has a direct link to help sign/call protest. If SOPA passes, search engines. Wiki, etc., can be pulled for 'internet piracy'.

jmverdugo
01-18-2012, 07:13 AM
yes it could, TT could be black flagged because of the pictures posted here, the videos and the for sale section, so you better start calling your congressman.

mary fierce
01-18-2012, 07:29 AM
^^ certainly a potential problem, might not be good that guys like charliefederer put copyrighted material in their posts all the time.

DjokovicForTheWin
01-18-2012, 07:31 AM
if you're really desperate, you can right-click and view source of the wiki page (first doing a search using google)...then you can kind of read it, through all the html tags...good luck!

Haha, good tip, but that html is hard to read. I found a much better way actually. Just view source as you said and then save the file to your desktop as filename.html. Then open it a browser. Voila :)

LameTennisPlayer
01-18-2012, 07:39 AM
Haha, good tip, but that html is hard to read. I found a much better way actually. Just view source as you said and then save the file to your desktop as filename.html. Then open it a browser. Voila :)

brilliant wow thx!

sada232
01-18-2012, 07:40 AM
I noticed you can also get passed it by turning javascript off or getting a browser extension like noScript that prevents javascript.

Feņa14
01-18-2012, 08:30 AM
I didn't realise quite how much I actually use it! I've tried needed it 4 or 5 times today to check something.

It's for a good cause though so hopefully it's worth it.

Sentinel
01-18-2012, 08:35 AM
Many sites are down today for SOPA. Some are hosting whitened pages, or blackening out their logos.

Reddit is down. Daily WTF is whited out.

Claudius
01-18-2012, 08:43 AM
Press esc before the blackout.

You're welcome.

DjokovicForTheWin
01-18-2012, 09:07 AM
Press esc before the blackout.

You're welcome.

Nice, this one is better than my work around.

MixieP
01-18-2012, 09:27 AM
Britannic dot com seems like a good alternative (sorry, not very pc I know). They say nice things about Rafa, some may even be true:

In 2005 Nadal set a record for a teenage male player by registering 11 tournament victories, including a triumph at his French Open (Roland Garros) debut, when he upset Federer in the semifinalshttp://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1117130/Rafael-Nadal

Vamos.

MG1
01-18-2012, 09:52 AM
While page is refreshing click on cancel button and you'll be there.

diredesire
01-18-2012, 10:03 AM
OK OK... lots of people posting here, but no one really seems to know what SOPA is all about.

The purpose of these annoying blackouts on HUGELY popular sites is to raise awareness about the bill(s) of SOPA and PIPA.

It essentially boils down to this: If the bill passes, the landscape of the internet could be WILDLY different than it is today. Sites such as this forum could be shut down without due process at a whim of a copyright holder. Obviously, the people who are going to have the leverage to do so are the big companies/IP holders, NOT some individual users who are upset that their copyrights are being infringed upon.

From a sensationalist standpoint, it means that the internet will be controlled by a few big powers. Without getting political, take the time to research SOPA and do your own part in protesting it if it floats your boat.

bad_call
01-18-2012, 10:06 AM
^ thank you sir for your attempt to educate the "uninformed". :)

SalvadorVeiga
01-18-2012, 10:38 AM
Haha, good tip, but that html is hard to read. I found a much better way actually. Just view source as you said and then save the file to your desktop as filename.html. Then open it a browser. Voila :)

a simple press of the Esc button would've done the job.

:)

anhuynh16
01-18-2012, 10:39 AM
DD, Just wondering but how affected will TT be if this bill passed?

diredesire
01-18-2012, 11:32 AM
DD, Just wondering but how affected will TT be if this bill passed?
Could be 0%, could be 100%. That's the point. I sometimes see people posting excerpts of articles here on pro players or whatever.

IF a large news conglomerate decides that newspapers aren't making enough money, and closes up shop, and moves to 100% online articles, they could feasibly decide to "charge a membership" (see NYT). If they decide that they want to milk the user for every last penny, they're going to be very aggressive with people copy/pasting partial (or full!) articles elsewhere online.

Assuming they have enough leverage, they could abuse these bills and get TTW (maybe even TW!) shut down as a site without having to go through a lengthy cease and decist and/or lawsuit. So... this would be the 100% case.

If the bill passes and people are chill (extremely unlikely), then there'd be likely no effect.

The problem with the bill is that it is not tackling the supposed problem (internet piracy). It is putting into place ridiculous policies that could completely undermine freedom of speech and other basic rights that we are taking for granted on a day to day basis. The point that wikipedia, reddit, slickdeals, the oatmeal, etc etc etc are trying to make is that we shouldn't take these freedoms/rights for granted. Do something about it (if it floats your boat).

anhuynh16
01-18-2012, 01:54 PM
Could be 0%, could be 100%. That's the point. I sometimes see people posting excerpts of articles here on pro players or whatever.

IF a large news conglomerate decides that newspapers aren't making enough money, and closes up shop, and moves to 100% online articles, they could feasibly decide to "charge a membership" (see NYT). If they decide that they want to milk the user for every last penny, they're going to be very aggressive with people copy/pasting partial (or full!) articles elsewhere online.

Assuming they have enough leverage, they could abuse these bills and get TTW (maybe even TW!) shut down as a site without having to go through a lengthy cease and decist and/or lawsuit. So... this would be the 100% case.

If the bill passes and people are chill (extremely unlikely), then there'd be likely no effect.

The problem with the bill is that it is not tackling the supposed problem (internet piracy). It is putting into place ridiculous policies that could completely undermine freedom of speech and other basic rights that we are taking for granted on a day to day basis. The point that wikipedia, reddit, slickdeals, the oatmeal, etc etc etc are trying to make is that we shouldn't take these freedoms/rights for granted. Do something about it (if it floats your boat).

Ok thanks you make an excellent points there. I just signed the petetion.

DUO
01-18-2012, 02:39 PM
I wonder why google's logo is blackout, aren't they also a pro SOPA/PIPA supporter?. I think FB, twitter, YT should also do some kind of blackout, can you imagine how much more awareness of this bills if those websites did a blackout.

West Coast Ace
01-18-2012, 05:56 PM
DD, Just wondering but how affected will TT be if this bill passed?For example (sort of extreme), if TW didn't notice someone posting pics in Shoes/Apparel of Nike's Winter 2012 gear and remove it fast enough, Nike could have the entire site taken down. Or someone post videos in Tennis Hint/Tips that is copyrighted - same thing - site gets shut down. Under DCMA (digital millenium copyright act) a 'takedown notice' would be filed to take the offending materials off. On Ars Technica they correctly called SOPA 'thermonuclear war to kill an insect' - pretty accurate. And I have been a software developer - so Piracy is something that bothers me. But needs to be addressed in a sensible way. The MPAA and RIAA are stuck in the Past and can't realize they need to change their business model.

diredesire
01-18-2012, 05:59 PM
I wonder why google's logo is blackout, aren't they also a pro SOPA/PIPA supporter?. I think FB, twitter, YT should also do some kind of blackout, can you imagine how much more awareness of this bills if those websites did a blackout.

No, Google (as they should be) is definitely opposed to the bill(s). If FB/Twitter/YT went down, the point would be driven home, for sure. However, as it is, the publicity for ANYTHING SOPA/PIPA related is very low, as some of the big pushes for these bills are large media corporations ;)

Most people just don't know what it's all about! I'm pretty sure if FB went down for even an hour or so twitter would go down from all the traffic about it ;)

skip1969
01-18-2012, 06:32 PM
i put the google link on my facebook page, if only because i'm fed to death with stupid house and senate bills.

DUO
01-18-2012, 06:40 PM
No, Google (as they should be) is definitely opposed to the bill(s). If FB/Twitter/YT went down, the point would be driven home, for sure. However, as it is, the publicity for ANYTHING SOPA/PIPA related is very low, as some of the big pushes for these bills are large media corporations ;)

Most people just don't know what it's all about! I'm pretty sure if FB went down for even an hour or so twitter would go down from all the traffic about it ;)

Hmm I guess my info is incorrect about google. I do agree that the majority of people on twitter and fb probably don't even know what's going on,perhaps someone working at fb can "spill some coffee" on their servers hehe

Sentinel
01-18-2012, 11:01 PM
For example (sort of extreme), if TW didn't notice someone posting pics in Shoes/Apparel of Nike's Winter 2012 gear and remove it fast enough, Nike could have the entire site taken down. Or someone post videos in Tennis Hint/Tips that is copyrighted - same thing - site gets shut down. Under DCMA (digital millenium copyright act) a 'takedown notice' would be filed to take the offending materials off. On Ars Technica they correctly called SOPA 'thermonuclear war to kill an insect' - pretty accurate. And I have been a software developer - so Piracy is something that bothers me. But needs to be addressed in a sensible way. The MPAA and RIAA are stuck in the Past and can't realize they need to change their business model.
It's not just video and pics. If a poster even posts a LINK, ... the website is supposed to monitor each and every link posted -- that's what I've got, although I have just glossed it. The wikipedia page had an explanation.