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tdent
01-24-2012, 05:40 AM
Review of Prestige S.
Just purchased one, and here is a review after hitting for 2 hours. Pre Strung with Head Tour FXP tour 16 (I think) probably around mid 50s. I am currently playing with Radical YouTek, strung 50lbs with Pro sonic, 3-4 grams lead tape at 6-9. The Radical weighs 317grams, and Prestige weighs 320, but prestige swings heavier, and surprised that Radical has higher swing weight. The Prestige S, weight wise felt very similar the Nadal Racket. I am technique wise fairly good, long fairly fast swing, I play tournaments and against US players, I have beaten 4.5 players. Strong serve around 100+ single handed backhand and semi western, fairly flat forehand.
Anyway about the racket, it does not play or feel like a radical, even though the two were similar weights, the Prestige S, played like a very heavy racket. The prestige S, feels a lot like Prestiges I have used in the past, nice flex and buttery feel, not too flexible though. But felt more flexible than the Youtek Radical although the specs say otherwise. I really liked the feel of the prestige, felt more connected to the ball than than Radical. I was getting much more pace on my serves and backhands, forehand was about the same. I could generate pace and spin on my serves effortlessly, whereas with the Radical you have to work pretty hard. Prestige S was much more stable, and solid feeling, and returns were much better. My opponent serves over 110 and had no trouble on stability on the return of serve, which sometimes with the Radical it twists too much. I donít think the power level is as low as people say, its much more powerful than the other prestiges, and the sweetspot is huge. I am happy with it, and will not be going back to the Radical, even though I really like the radical. Also, I feel I can keep up with the guys using the powerful babolats now, whereas before sometimes I felt overpowered.
I am happy to answer questions on my experiences.

JackB1
01-24-2012, 06:02 AM
see here
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=409905

did you play the racquet stock or did you modify it with leadtape?

also which Radical is your regular racquet? The Pro or the MP?

tdent
01-24-2012, 06:24 AM
You Tek Radical MP modified just slightly with minor lead tape less than 4 grams at 6 and 9, Prestige S in stock form.

JackB1
01-24-2012, 08:19 AM
You Tek Radical MP modified just slightly with minor lead tape less than 4 grams at 6 and 9, Prestige S in stock form.

6 & 9 ? That seems a bit odd. Did you mean 3/9? You have weight on one side of the racquet and not the other?

Do you think the S has more power than the MP? I was surprised at how "whippy" the S feels, given its a 11.6 oz racquet. I just wish it had a little more "copoly" on its own without having to add leadtape or lower string tension too much. I am hoping its just the demo strings.

tdent
01-24-2012, 08:49 AM
6&9, obviously I am thinking about something else... Anyway yes 3&9
Even though I was using 16g strung tighter in the Prestige S vs Radical Pro Sonic 17, I found much more power on serves, off the baseline not much more power, maybe the same, but if I string it lower with poly I think it would be make it more powerful. I found the with the regular prestiges, I could not generate as much pace or depth. With the Prestige S I get enough pace and depth, not like the power of the Babolat pure drive/APT, those are more powerful for sure. I like the feel, of the Prestige S, its definitely Prestige feeling without the weight. Also great spin on the serve! and its very stable. I don't find it too whippy, and think it actually swings heavier than 315sw, and even heavier than the Radical MP at 320. When I put the two on the scales, i was very surprised the Radical was only 3 grams lighter, as the Prestige S feels heavier. Both actually had balance at 3 pt HL. The spec of the prestige is probably spot on, once I cut out the strings.

vinigrando
01-24-2012, 09:24 AM
I was looking to a review like this, thank you very much!

I'm also readind JackB1 thread...

Did you play with the prestige mp (youtek ig and/or non Ig)? How it compares torgos one?

Thank you
Vini

vinigrando
01-24-2012, 09:31 AM
*Torgos=to this one (iPad portugueses auto correction)

tdent
01-24-2012, 09:37 AM
Vini, I played with Prestige MP and Pro youtek not the IG versons, I found both of those underpowered and sluggish. The S verson is definitely more powerful, but you get the same solid buttery feel. I think the S verson has more spin then the other versions, not just because you can swing faster, but the string pattern is more open than even the Prestige Pro, its a different string pattern, although also 16/19. I also felt contrary to what other say that there is no plow through, and found i had an easier time just blocking balls back, although I did come from using the Radical MP

vinigrando
01-24-2012, 10:08 AM
Probably this stick with leather grip will fit my game.

I'm looking to something less powerfull than the biomimetic 500 tour and a litle bit more powerful and less demanding than a volkl Pb 10 mp. Do you think this will fill my expectation?

To complement: i think the bio 500 tour TOO powerfull and the radical microgel too light. The pb10mp is heavy, i lost consistency on second set.

Thank you
Vini

JackB1
01-24-2012, 11:33 AM
can we consolidate these 2 threads into this one?

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=409905

the other thread has been going for a few days already, so can we just post there to avoid duplication? Thanks

dflores
01-24-2012, 03:14 PM
Great review. Was waiting for a good post on this racquet.

fattsoo
01-24-2012, 09:49 PM
6&9, obviously I am thinking about something else...


HAHAHHA, thanks for the laugh

Mateo
01-25-2012, 02:11 AM
tdent great review !
I am also radical youtek Mp player and wanting to switch to 16x19 pattern.
Last week have the opportunity to play with babolat pure drive, and the racquet is pretty solid but my shoulder was screaming and the power was little to much.
Prestige S is my only racquet that specs wise is something like radical so I am very glad that you made the demo.
My rad is about 335 g with lead so more swing weight on prestige would be great for me as rad is to light in stock.
Great thing about the serves, because like you I have to put all to get the first serve to be on the level.
If the prestige is on power level just one step up from the rad that would work like charm for me.
My question is about put away shots and strokes from the base line.
The TW said in their review something about lack of power and penetration.....
Do you feel that is better than rad from base line (ground strokes) on TW they are rated the same 79?
Thanks!

tdent
01-25-2012, 04:19 AM
Jack I agree I should have posted on your thread, but not sure how to consolidate this thread.

Mateo, I don't think you would have shoulder problems with the prestige, it is very comfortable, like the radical, but the feel like I mentioned is very different. As for power from the baseline, I didnt feel it any more powerful than the radical, its much more powerful on serve and overhead for sure, but from the baseline, my slice and topspin backhand I got more pace, the forehand i was hitting about the same pace as the radical. It doesnt have the power from the baseline like the Pure drive, but if you step into the ball, into the court I was getting more than enough pace. I was using a more powerful string set up in my Radical, so I would think I could drop the tension in the prestige S and change the string to 17g and get some more power. Keep in mind the 16/19 pattern in the Prestige is very very open, its not like other 16/19s I have used. It make the serve spin incredible and the sweetspot huge.

Mateo
01-25-2012, 05:45 AM
Jack I agree I should have posted on your thread, but not sure how to consolidate this thread.

Mateo, I don't think you would have shoulder problems with the prestige, it is very comfortable, like the radical, but the feel like I mentioned is very different. As for power from the baseline, I didnt feel it any more powerful than the radical, its much more powerful on serve and overhead for sure, but from the baseline, my slice and topspin backhand I got more pace, the forehand i was hitting about the same pace as the radical. It doesnt have the power from the baseline like the Pure drive, but if you step into the ball, into the court I was getting more than enough pace. I was using a more powerful string set up in my Radical, so I would think I could drop the tension in the prestige S and change the string to 17g and get some more power. Keep in mind the 16/19 pattern in the Prestige is very very open, its not like other 16/19s I have used. It make the serve spin incredible and the sweetspot huge.

Thanks for quick respond.

My forehand style is a big top spin shot on the ball.
With radical I can't get the ball bite for spin as well with 16x19 string pattern and better bite on serve.

So I found myself on the mission to find other racquet with open strings.
For example with babolat pure drive (the bad side was that I wanted to try pure drive gt and in my shop there was only pdgt Roddick model) I had great ball spin on forehand and the power was on the high edge for me (little more power from body rotation would fly the ball to the parking lot) but the racquet felt like stone in my hand, the feel like radical is for me no ware to be found.
So the only racquet similar in feel like radical is this new prestige s.

I have had the youtek prestige mp model but I sold it due to high swing weight for my style.

On that ''different'' open pattern what do you mean by that?
As I'm not 16x19 specialist, too much bite on the ball?

Well if you put away your radical and you said that rad is good stick for you, than I would definitely try prestige s as I have the same opinion on rad and it is a good stick to play, but maybe the pres S would be a tad more better....:)

tdent
01-25-2012, 08:59 AM
by different I mean more open, the strings are wider apart than other 16/19 rackets. Switching from the RadicalMP was fairly easy, I get improvements in spin, more power on serves, more stability, better feel. And I don't think I have give up anything. And I have yet to change to my favourite string and tenson. Its nothing like the pure drive, but I dont like the pure drive anyway, too much power, and I feel very disconnected with the ball using a babolat. I think the people saying it does not have enough power, come from using a heavier racket and can handle a heavy racket, but I find the prestigeMP too demanding, the prestige S is even easier to use than the radical.

Mateo
01-26-2012, 12:10 AM
Well you made me a believer.

As soon as prestige S come's to my shop I am there.

There is one more thing that I want to ask you and it is relating to the ball control....do you feel improvement in shots from side to side (left /right), because the Prestige racquets are control sticks so I am wondering that on the control field should be better than radical.

Thanks again for review and sorry for 100 questions, and be so kind to post further review of Prestige S as you take it to the court next time.
:)

tdent
01-26-2012, 04:19 AM
Control is actually better with the Radical, The Prestige S can be a bit wild at times, but not as wild as I found the Babolat Pure drive. Also, keep in mind this is a very soft racket, much softer than the radical MP even though specs say otherwise, the feeling is very different. Actually the Prestige S plays very much like the Fischer Magnetic Pro 320.

drumnman2
01-26-2012, 04:42 PM
Tried putting 4 grams @ 3 & 9 and 8 grams under the butt cap. It ended up 11.9 oz. and 6 points head light. Sounded like that would be a good set-up for my game. Boy it really screwed it up, didn't play near as well. Seemed sluggish and too muted. I normally use 12+ oz racquets as my norm. Took it all off and it played pretty well actually. Serves great and I was really able to flatten my shots out without the ball flying. Pretty low powered but that's what works for me. Only prob. I am having is if I miss hit near the top of the frame ( i know) it really sends a nasty shock down my arm. My shoulder has been sore after the last 3 times I've used it. Sweet spot feels fantastic but I'm not fortunate enough to always hit there. That's the only thing keeping me from this stick. I might get one and try it at low tension and see if that takes some of the harshness away from mis-hits.

JackB1
01-26-2012, 05:19 PM
Tried putting 4 grams @ 3 & 9 and 8 grams under the butt cap. It ended up 11.9 oz. and 6 points head light. Sounded like that would be a good set-up for my game. Boy it really screwed it up, didn't play near as well. Seemed sluggish and too muted. I normally use 12+ oz racquets as my norm. Took it all off and it played pretty well actually. Serves great and I was really able to flatten my shots out without the ball flying. Pretty low powered but that's what works for me. Only prob. I am having is if I miss hit near the top of the frame ( i know) it really sends a nasty shock down my arm. My shoulder has been sore after the last 3 times I've used it. Sweet spot feels fantastic but I'm not fortunate enough to always hit there. That's the only thing keeping me from this stick. I might get one and try it at low tension and see if that takes some of the harshness away from mis-hits.

I just added 4g's to 3/9 and didn't add any to the handle. Played better and its now 4 pts HL which helps get a little more plow. You can't make this stick too headlite...it will have no "oomph" behind the ball.

dParis
01-26-2012, 06:05 PM
I just added 4g's to 3/9 and didn't add any to the handle. Played better and its now 4 pts HL which helps get a little more plow. You can't make this stick too headlite...it will have no "oomph" behind the ball.
I thought once you added weight to the head, the additional "oomph" :) stays there. Adding lead to the handle doesn't take away the "oomph" you just added to the head. Does it? Even adding lead to the handle alone will add "oomph" to the racquet; you'll just get less "oomph" per gram added.

BobFL
01-26-2012, 07:15 PM
I thought once you added weight to the head, the additional "oomph" :) stays there. Adding lead to the handle doesn't take away the "oomph" you just added to the head. Does it? Even adding lead to the handle alone will add "oomph" to the racquet; you'll just get less "oomph" per gram added.

Exactly :) Seems like our dear Jack had skipped Physics 101 :lol:

Teski
01-26-2012, 07:40 PM
I just added 4g's to 3/9 and didn't add any to the handle. Played better and its now 4 pts HL which helps get a little more plow. You can't make this stick too headlite...it will have no "oomph" behind the ball.

I thought you had already decided to sell.

JackB1
01-26-2012, 08:17 PM
I thought once you added weight to the head, the additional "oomph" :) stays there. Adding lead to the handle doesn't take away the "oomph" you just added to the head. Does it? Even adding lead to the handle alone will add "oomph" to the racquet; you'll just get less "oomph" per gram added.

No u cant take away plowthru....I was just saying that THIS racquet benefits more if you increase the stock balance more towards the hoop...at least for me.

JackB1
01-26-2012, 08:18 PM
Exactly :) Seems like our dear Jack had skipped Physics 101 :lol:

You're too much Bob :)

JackB1
01-27-2012, 06:57 PM
I thought you had already decided to sell.

I decided to give it one more chance, but unfortunately this stick is not for me. Check out the "other" Prestige S thread for details.

Ducker
01-27-2012, 07:12 PM
I just picked up the prestigue S and Speed MP 16x19. I will tell you how they are, expecially the S and review it here tomorow after my long morning session.

JackB1
01-28-2012, 01:53 PM
I just picked up the prestigue S and Speed MP 16x19. I will tell you how they are, expecially the S and review it here tomorow after my long morning session.

Those are two very different racquets