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holytennis
02-09-2012, 04:57 AM
Hello Everybody. Played with my friends new Babolat pure drive Roddick today. Only for about half hour though. First thing i notice is how much spin this racket can generate. It was also loaded with Power, and i felt the feel was WAY BETTER and softer than the older Pure Drive Roddick GT. Sweet Spot seemed a bit bigger. Serving with this was just amazing. My serves were definitely 10-12 Km faster with this than my current stick. Power was great on groundies and i did not over hit a lot, because the racket creates soo much spin. But one thing i noticed was my elbow was feeling a bit tender after serving. No pain while hitting Ground Strokes though. Volleys and Smashes were great too. I would have switched to this frame if my arm wasn't feeling tender. Anyway If the guy turns up tomorrow, i'll see if i can try it again.

BTW, Been looking at the Prince exo3 tour 100, can anyone post their thoughts on it here please?

Nostradamus
02-09-2012, 05:10 AM
^^ What was your racket strung with ? I got some demos and i am going to playtest it this Saturday. but these are strung with babolat addiction.

holytennis
02-09-2012, 05:17 AM
No idea, did not ask my friend.. will tell you tomorrow... :) I'm guessing its RPM Blast.

Teski
02-09-2012, 06:45 AM
Why would you distract this thread with EXO Tour comments? Let this one live as a PDR thread and go ahead and create an EXO Tour thread or read one of the many threads that already exist here. There's a ton on that stick already. :-)

holytennis
02-09-2012, 07:17 AM
Why would you distract this thread with EXO Tour comments? Let this one live as a PDR thread and go ahead and create an EXO Tour thread or read one of the many threads that already exist here. There's a ton on that stick already. :-)

Good Point.. :-P

Yourtenniscoach
02-09-2012, 08:33 AM
To the OP: the Prince EXO3 Tour is about a polar opposite of the PDR as you can get. I tried using the EXO3 Tour after playing with the APDGT and it literally felt like a noodle. I had a fresh bed of string and all and I could hardly hit the ball. Just felt like mush!

holytennis
02-09-2012, 09:50 AM
To the OP: the Prince EXO3 Tour is about a polar opposite of the PDR as you can get. I tried using the EXO3 Tour after playing with the APDGT and it literally felt like a noodle. I had a fresh bed of string and all and I could hardly hit the ball. Just felt like mush!

Thanks for your feedback. I will most probably buy the pure drive roddick, and maybe get a TE strap to reduce the pain.

ollinger
02-09-2012, 01:41 PM
^^ A study published last year found TE straps of no particular benefit, actually found better results for TE prevention if you wore a wrist splint all day.

Yourtenniscoach
02-09-2012, 02:25 PM
Use much softer strings! Stay away from the polys!

holytennis
02-10-2012, 02:12 AM
^^ A study published last year found TE straps of no particular benefit, actually found better results for TE prevention if you wore a wrist splint all day.

Are kinesio tapes any good then?

holytennis
02-10-2012, 02:13 AM
Use much softer strings! Stay away from the polys!

Like which soft strings?

Yourtenniscoach
02-10-2012, 04:41 AM
Like which soft strings?

Use Syn guts like Gosen OG Micro or a good multi like Babolat Xcel.

Dgdavid
02-10-2012, 05:03 AM
So, is this a Tweener frame or a Players frame (and does that even matter?). Just got really into the new IG Prestige MP but notice a lot of attention on the PD Roddick (here and the internet in general). Lots of NRTP 5.0 comments seem to love it and obviously the Pros that use it. Intrigued by this, 4.5 myself. Can you go for hard flat winners with the PD Roddick?

Teski
02-10-2012, 06:12 AM
Can you go for hard flat winners with the PD Roddick?

Yes, you absolutely can. That's what I've been loving about this stick. While it is a powerful racket, I don't feel like I have to have Nadal-like spin to keep the ball in and yet I can flatten out and smash a nice winner when I want.

BTW, I'm a 3.5 on the verge of 4.0 and don't have any problem handling this one.

Dgdavid
02-10-2012, 08:13 AM
Yes, you absolutely can. That's what I've been loving about this stick. While it is a powerful racket, I don't feel like I have to have Nadal-like spin to keep the ball in and yet I can flatten out and smash a nice winner when I want.

BTW, I'm a 3.5 on the verge of 4.0 and don't have any problem handling this one.

Bah! Now I'm gonna have to get one. Another 145. Why oh why did I unwrap the Prestige Mid when I knew it wasnt for me? Could have sent that back, kept my Midpluses and got a Pure Drive without guilt. Is the PD Roddick the best of the new ones (Rod GT and the two standards).

holytennis
02-10-2012, 08:20 AM
@dgdavid There are tons of rackets that keep coming out all the time. Be happy with your ig pretige mp, it is a real solid frame. The babolat may have more power and spin, but the feel from the prestige is heaven(not that the feel from the babolat is bad, its awesome!)

holytennis
02-10-2012, 08:28 AM
dgdavid, are you seriously a MD of a software company? No wonder you buy every new racket thats coming out.. :-P

Dgdavid
02-10-2012, 08:35 AM
:rolleyes:dgdavid, are you seriously a MD of a software company? No wonder you buy every new racket thats coming out.. :-P

And a terribly impulsive personality. Must. Have. Newest. Shiny. Thing.
If it wasn't a smallish company, I'd feel less guilty! All I need now is an Apple iRacket and I'm in sorted!

holytennis
02-10-2012, 08:40 AM
Haha, since your at it anyway, try the new wilson blx six one. But i strongly suggest you stick to a racket, and not try anything else for the next 1 year at least.

Dgdavid
02-10-2012, 08:55 AM
Haha, since your at it anyway, try the new wilson blx six one. But i strongly suggest you stick to a racket, and not try anything else for the next 1 year at least.

Good advice. I do like it a lot. One step and a time....no new rackets until after Easter and see how I go!

Federerkblade
02-10-2012, 11:15 AM
dg david

can you please let us know when you get one and review it pls.

Nostradamus
02-13-2012, 04:06 PM
ok, hit with both PURE drive and Pure drive plus 2012 for about 2 hours on sat.
Very impressed, i will most likely get one and try it out for extended test hitting. Most likely will get the pure drive but i was also very impressed with Plus version too.
Both Great rackets for Serving as usual. Nothing different here from previous version. Plus version was definitely better as expected for serving. More power, better placement and more spin.

Groundies --- slightly less power than GT version but still plenty of power to be had here. Regular version has better control than plus version. I could change the line of the ball with ease and generate powerful topspin shots with ease. Less control with Plus version, ball would Launch on occasion or if my timing was off. Not sure if this was because the demo was strung with Multi string addiction ?

Volleys -- Very very nice and manuverable. Plus version slightly less manuverable as expected but still pretty darn good for volleying with accuracy and punch. Ok, here is where i could feel the slightly lower Swing weight of the racket. This difference in SW from the previous model is very slight but still it is noticeble. Babolat really made a winner here.
Return of serves --- This is where the lower SW shines. I could time the big flat serves much better. I was hitting with good timing and was late much less often.

Only hit for 2 hours but really like this. You will take about 30 minutes to get used to the frame. Feel is different than the previous models. More dampened soft feel. but once you get used to it, you will love the control and power of this racket.

ZeroSkid
02-13-2012, 08:24 PM
How is the control and feel?

LanEvo
02-13-2012, 08:57 PM
I plan on picking up one, then 2, of these soon... this will supplement my current PDRs (non-GT).

Nostradamus
02-14-2012, 02:23 AM
How is the control and feel?

I would say control and feel is better than the GT version. It is more of a dampened feel and it takes time to get used to it.

holytennis
02-14-2012, 03:40 AM
Yup, improved soft feel from the Roddick version, but otherwise i feel it's the same as the previous version.

Yourtenniscoach
02-14-2012, 06:45 AM
Yup, improved soft feel from the Roddick version, but otherwise i feel it's the same as the previous version.

PDR = Stiffer more Power, PD = Controlled power, softer feeling.

I can't deal with the low swing weight of the PD. 306 is too low. Reaks of getting pushed around.

Dgdavid
02-14-2012, 01:43 PM
Well, played two sets of singles with the Pure Drive Roddick tonight plus one set with my IG Prestige Mid and one with my IG Prestige Midplus (my main racket).

I would normally not comment after only 2 sets but the PDR was not dissimilar to my Aeroprodrive so it was quite familiar to play with from the off. The PDR sets were very interesting in that my standard rally shots were nice and deep but I felt I couldn't step in and hit flat winners. I always felt I was throttling back the power so was applying less of my own and the overrall effect was less pace on my attacking shots (vs. Prestige MP where I can put 100% of my power into) but out of position shots were nice with the Pure Drive. I did hit some shots that were a pleasant surprise including 2-3 lovely down the line back hands off a heavy serve. This reflects the pros and cons for me in a nutshell. A positive surprise yes but still a surprise. I don't get any surprises with the Prestige MP which gives me great confidence in the racket (they are very different of course). I was moving the opponent around with ease though without needing to hit too hard.

Ultimately, my tennis racket choices boil down to:

learning to control a more powerful racket; or
learning to apply more of my own power to a control racket.

The latter is working for me so I probably won't continue with the PDR on this basis purely because I think I can find closer rackets to my spec (which I haven't nailed yet to be fair). There is a good case for me to give the PDR more time and maybe it will become a bigger weapon than the Prestige MP but I think the Prestige Pro is my next racket to test (and a vanity trial with the PS BLX 90 so I can see what it is like to shank balls with a white frame!).

Slightly OT but for those interested, the IG Prestige MID was too tough for me and I had a few mishits at crucial moments on backhand under pressure. My IG Prestige Midplus (trialling it with a lower tension copoly) was a success but my top racket is still my other IG Prestige Midplus which is stock (sonic pro at mid tension).

Results wise, I won all four sets. The PDR sets I won comfortably 6-4, 6-3 but hit a lot of unforced errors plus some unexpectedly good backhand winners. He was very much in the game on the IG Mid 7-5 (and I had to keep it on my forehand to stand a chance) and a blowout 6-0 on the Midplus with a lot of winners. I am naturally more confident with the Midplus after a few weeks so not an accurate comparison.

Nothing wrong with PDR, lovely racket just not for me.

Federerkblade
02-14-2012, 01:58 PM
try the standard pure drive david

Dgdavid
02-14-2012, 02:10 PM
try the standard pure drive david

Hi. What will that give me vs the PDR? Less power I am guessing (good for me). What about control?

Yourtenniscoach
02-14-2012, 02:36 PM
Hi. What will that give me vs the PDR? Less power I am guessing (good for me). What about control?

If you like the PDR you will be disappointed by the PD. Its much lighter feeling and the great plow through that the PDR affords is missing with the PDs feeble swingweight.

RacketFever
02-14-2012, 07:21 PM
David, try the new Wilson BLX Six one 95 16x18.

Dgdavid
02-14-2012, 10:34 PM
David, try the new Wilson BLX Six one 95 16x18.

Tried my friends. I was nice but preferred the Prestige MP. Everything keeps coming round to the idea of trying the BLX Blade 98. Seeing my coach today and will also ask him about my Pure Drive Roddick experience as he rates them very highly (he says the power gives the average club player one less thing to worry about). On reflection overnight, I am going to hang on to the PDR demo for the full two weeks and play again with it.

Federerkblade
02-14-2012, 11:39 PM
david , where did you demo from ??? im from Uk, dont give me the full name just an indication and I should be able to work out ?

TN ?

richsox
02-15-2012, 12:23 AM
(From Wiltshire):

I too found the PDR (in my case the +) just that too difficult to control shots, especially when I felt like nailing them for a winner. But, in this regard, I do find the standard pure drive, far more capable of delivering a controlled yet powerful shot.

Indeed it (PD standard) does have a low SW, but this actually has helped me generate greater top spin.

Dgdavid
02-15-2012, 12:25 AM
david , where did you demo from ??? im from Uk, dont give me the full name just an indication and I should be able to work out ?

TN ?

The other big one. Pee DoubleYou Pee Dot Com!

Dgdavid
02-15-2012, 12:27 AM
(From Wiltshire):

I too found the PDR (in my case the +) just that too difficult to control shots, especially when I felt like nailing them for a winner. But, in this regard, I do find the standard pure drive, far more capable of delivering a controlled yet powerful shot.

Indeed it (PD standard) does have a low SW, but this actually has helped me generate greater top spin.

Hi richsox. Have to hit against heavy hitters? The better players I play with hit bombs on ground strokes and my Prestige MP lets me defend really solidly and well. The solidity is what I need to retain. Do you think the standard PDR would give that?

holytennis
02-15-2012, 12:35 AM
David, did you find the Ig Prestige MP to have a better feel than the PDR? How is the forgiveness of the MP? I was just satisfied with the PDR in terms of sweetspot, strung at 58. Do you think the sweetspot would be enough for me if I string the MP/Pro at 51-53?

Dgdavid
02-15-2012, 12:50 AM
David, did you find the Ig Prestige MP to have a better feel than the PDR? How is the forgiveness of the MP? I was just satisfied with the PDR in terms of sweetspot, strung at 58. Do you think the sweetspot would be enough for me if I string the MP/Pro at 51-53?

The sweetspot is really good and I play very well with it. Far better feel but that is not to say the PDR is bad, just different characteristics. The PDR is undoubtedly better for 'racket' power and spin but I cannot use that power reliably in a match situation (my experience to date). I say racket power because the confidence I get from the Prestige means I hit with more of my own power which translates to more actual 'in match' pace. You have to hit the Prestige though, it won't like lazy swings but it is forgiving to let you do that consistently and accurately. I hit flatter with it and really go for corners. I rarely hit long but if I don't hit fully, I can leave them short. It defends well too. I have one at 53lbs and one at 51lbs (RPM Blast).

The only reason I am looking for something else for the bag (addition to not replacement for) is sometimes in less serious matches or normal club mix-ins, I don't want to have to swing fully at every shot. Going to try Prince Rebel 98 and Wilson BLX Blade 98.

holytennis
02-15-2012, 01:14 AM
The sweetspot is really good and I play very well with it. Far better feel but that is not to say the PDR is bad, just different characteristics. The PDR is undoubtedly better for 'racket' power and spin but I cannot use that power reliably in a match situation (my experience to date). I say racket power because the confidence I get from the Prestige means I hit with more of my own power which translates to more actual 'in match' pace. You have to hit the Prestige though, it won't like lazy swings but it is forgiving to let you do that consistently and accurately. I hit flatter with it and really go for corners. I rarely hit long but if I don't hit fully, I can leave them short. It defends well too. I have one at 53lbs and one at 51lbs (RPM Blast).

The only reason I am looking for something else for the bag (addition to not replacement for) is sometimes in less serious matches or normal club mix-ins, I don't want to have to swing fully at every shot. Going to try Prince Rebel 98 and Wilson BLX Blade 98.


Then the Ig Prestige Pro might be for you. You don't always have to swing full, it lets you be lazy sometimes. I'm guessing at least.

Dgdavid
02-15-2012, 01:24 AM
Then the Ig Prestige Pro might be for you. You don't always have to swing full, it lets you be lazy sometimes. I'm guessing at least.

That is likely the case especially after racketfever's comments. Like my MP but a bit more power, bit more spin. But I have two red rackets already! (joking).

richsox
02-15-2012, 02:46 AM
Hi richsox. Have to hit against heavy hitters? The better players I play with hit bombs on ground strokes and my Prestige MP lets me defend really solidly and well. The solidity is what I need to retain. Do you think the standard PDR would give that?

Hi DgDavid,

You do have a valid point. I am now tinkering, on "leading up" the PD standard in the throat, to see if that give's me a little more "plow through", as I might get pushed around a bit, by decent players.

That being said, I have found the Std PD to be much more solid than previous versions, i.e. PD GT, and first Cortex version(I started on the Team PD in early 2000's and to me that still takes the biscuit!), but my main issue is not solidness right now, it's the low SW, which I thinks lessens my power on serving my 1st flat serve.

I am weighing up pro's and con's of this lower SW of the PD. It does lend itself to producing great top spin, good for 2nd serve kickers, very comfortable playing wise, but I am think I have lost a few MPH's.

I once demo'ed the Prsetige Pro...what can I say it's a great stick, much better stick than I am as a player (I've got a generous 7.2 LTA rating from my Pro)

RacketFever
02-15-2012, 03:10 AM
That is likely the case especially after racketfever's comments. Like my MP but a bit more power, bit more spin. But I have two red rackets already! (joking).

Yeah, the Pro let's you have a bit more free power than the MP. It is also a bit more Spin friendly because of the Open Pattern. However, i added about 15 grams of weight to my MP in order to match the specs of the Pro. This increased the power level, almost to as much as the Pro's.

Federerkblade
02-15-2012, 03:35 AM
Going to try Prince Rebel 98 and Wilson BLX Blade 98.[/QUOTE]

The Blx Blade 98 is a great racquet. if you handle the swingweight. i can but then my arms gets lazy

didnt realise p weee p were doing two week demos.

Dgdavid
02-15-2012, 05:45 AM
The Wimbledon branch does. I'm sat in Starbucks outside it having just swapped the PDR for a Blx Blade.

Dgdavid
02-15-2012, 05:45 AM
Yeah, the Pro let's you have a bit more free power than the MP. It is also a bit more Spin friendly because of the Open Pattern. However, i added about 15 grams of weight to my MP in order to match the specs of the Pro. This increased the power level, almost to as much as the Pro's.

Where did you add the weight and how much? Does it play better than stock?

RacketFever
02-15-2012, 05:57 AM
Where did you add the weight and how much? Does it play better than stock?

I added about 8 grams at 10 & 2, and 8 grams in the handle to counter balance. It plays somewhat the same, but with more plow through and power.

Federerkblade
02-15-2012, 07:06 AM
Davis, what was the Pure drive strung with ? The shop are stringing mine for free and really confused what string to put in ?

t-swede
02-15-2012, 08:51 AM
[QUOTE=Federerkblade;6327651]Davis, what was the Pure drive strung with ? The shop are stringing mine for free and really confused what string to put in ?[/QUOTf

for free ? go for a hybrid of rpm blast and tecnifibre x-1 biphase !

Federerkblade
02-15-2012, 09:15 AM
[QUOTE=Federerkblade;6327651]Davis, what was the Pure drive strung with ? The shop are stringing mine for free and really confused what string to put in ?[/QUOTf

for free ? go for a hybrid of rpm blast and tecnifibre x-1 biphase !

ok , can you confirm the rpm blast or cyclone to go in the mains

and the biophase to go on crosses.

also what tensions for the main and cross pls. Do you suggest different tension for main and cross

Federerkblade
02-15-2012, 09:16 AM
anyone tried blast and biophase by the way as a hybrid

Power Player
03-03-2012, 02:26 PM
If you like the PDR you will be disappointed by the PD. Its much lighter feeling and the great plow through that the PDR affords is missing with the PDs feeble swingweight.

I disagree. I bet the reason dg David can't hit big with the pdr is because he is not getting enough racquet head speed to control the ball. I love that stick but it is a 12 oz racquet and it needs real good racquet head speed if you want to control it. it's stiff...heavier and has a bigger swingweight.

The pd plus was my choice because the swingweight is good out of the box considering how much power the stick has. It's easy to control since it is around 320 grams after strings and over grip. You can also mod the regular pure drives with lead and make them spec however you want.

But I hit with a big hitter today who played open tournaments when he was a little younger and my racquet never got pushed around because I could always meet the ball out in front.

Also it sounds like he is buying too many racquets and not spending enough time to figure out his game or what he really needs. Pick a racquet and use it a few months so you can figure out exactly what you need or you will be chasing your tail. 2 sets of tennis is just not long enough to know in my opinion.

Korso
03-06-2012, 05:00 AM
I love this racquet! This racquet excels with good raquet head speed. I currently have it strung with a copoly in the mains and synthetic gut in the crosses to soften it up. Lots of spin and power with comfort. I am curious about a gut/poly setup. Anyone try the setup yet?

courtking
03-06-2012, 05:43 AM
after reading all the hype in TT forums.. I had to try one for myself.. We demo the BLX PS 95 for my son but it's not as good as I thought so when we were there we bought the PD Standard L2 for him to play.. My 6 year old son hit awesome with this racket but for me it's quite light.. and the grip is big on Babolat compare to other brand.. so I went back and bought the PDR grip 1, string it up with VSGut main 45lb and RPM 40lb.. It plays much much better than the PD standard and it's still a little too light for me.. I play with a custom KPS88 395g for the past 4 years.. ..
PDR perform extremely well compare to the last 2 versions.. I hate Babolat but this PDR 2012 is nice..
After about 3hrs of play I felt my wrist and elbow stiffen a little bit.. Yeah, the racket feels very stiff even at that low tension.. next time I will try my old setup which is 40lb main on gut and 35lb main cross..
I am planning to put in a fairway leather grip, with few grams of lead at 3,9 and above the grip to crank up the SW and static weight a little bit..

The 1HBH perform great on this new PDR but my forehand kept hitting the net.. The volley touch is unbelievable good.. First hard flat serve is awesome but I double fault alot more than I used to with my KPS.. Even I crush the balls very hard but my wife told me it is not feel as heavy as my KPS88.. I think after the tuning every thing will click..

Power Player
03-06-2012, 05:52 AM
I love this racquet! This racquet excels with good raquet head speed. I currently have it strung with a copoly in the mains and synthetic gut in the crosses to soften it up. Lots of spin and power with comfort. I am curious about a gut/poly setup. Anyone try the setup yet?

I will be soon. Most likely gut at 60#s and poly at 55.

Nostradamus
03-06-2012, 06:20 AM
I love this racquet! This racquet excels with good raquet head speed. I currently have it strung with a copoly in the mains and synthetic gut in the crosses to soften it up. Lots of spin and power with comfort. I am curious about a gut/poly setup. Anyone try the setup yet?

I love this racket too. It would be perfect if it has little bigger sweet spot though. If they can make this racket into isometric head shape then i think this could become the GOAT of all rackets.

RacketFever
03-06-2012, 07:18 AM
I love this racket too. It would be perfect if it has little bigger sweet spot though. If they can make this racket into isometric head shape then i think this could become the GOAT of all rackets.

Isometric is patented. Whats wrong with the Babolat's Sweetspot? According to TWU data, it is supposed to have a pretty large sweetspot.

Power Player
03-06-2012, 07:21 AM
I love this racket too. It would be perfect if it has little bigger sweet spot though. If they can make this racket into isometric head shape then i think this could become the GOAT of all rackets.

LOL what the heck are you talking about?

This is buckethead. Im about positive.

Nostradamus
03-06-2012, 07:28 AM
LOL what the heck are you talking about?

This is buckethead. Im about positive.

LOL, this is not buckethead, nor am i the fedace fellow who i thought was federer in the beginning.
but i do know buckethead from facebook site. He is one of the most knowledgeble guys in that yonex site and seem to be a nice guy too. I have been using the RDIS 100 for a while now so i do visit that yonex site frequently.
But i will tell you that Babolat has made something very special with these new 2012 pure drives. This model could become their new best seller.

Power Player
03-06-2012, 07:57 AM
LOL, this is not buckethead, nor am i the fedace fellow who i thought was federer in the beginning.
but i do know buckethead from facebook site. He is one of the most knowledgeble guys in that yonex site and seem to be a nice guy too. I have been using the RDIS 100 for a while now so i do visit that yonex site frequently.
But i will tell you that Babolat has made something very special with these new 2012 pure drives. This model could become their new best seller.

?

Interesting.

holytennis
03-06-2012, 08:22 AM
LOL, this is not buckethead, nor am i the fedace fellow who i thought was federer in the beginning.
but i do know buckethead from facebook site. He is one of the most knowledgeble guys in that yonex site and seem to be a nice guy too. I have been using the RDIS 100 for a while now so i do visit that yonex site frequently.
But i will tell you that Babolat has made something very special with these new 2012 pure drives. This model could become their new best seller.

What is your point and why the hell should they make the PDR isometric? IMHO the babolat is the most forgiving 100 sq inch racket right now.

Nostradamus
03-06-2012, 09:16 AM
What is your point and why the hell should they make the PDR isometric? IMHO the babolat is the most forgiving 100 sq inch racket right now.

Well, i agree but if you hit way up top of the racket head or hit the plastic or graphite parts, you can lose control of the ball and go wild. With Yonex isometric head, i had found that you can hit on the edge of the racket and still maintain control of the ball.

JackB1
07-03-2012, 06:31 PM
Well, i agree but if you hit way up top of the racket head or hit the plastic or graphite parts, you can lose control of the ball and go wild. With Yonex isometric head, i had found that you can hit on the edge of the racket and still maintain control of the ball.

So the racquet's no good because it isn't forgiving enough when you frame shots??? :confused::shock:

mawashi
07-03-2012, 07:24 PM
Well, i agree but if you hit way up top of the racket head or hit the plastic or graphite parts, you can lose control of the ball and go wild. With Yonex isometric head, i had found that you can hit on the edge of the racket and still maintain control of the ball.

Wahahaha fedfail fedfail lol! Yeah only yonex allows you to hit with the frame and still manage ball control ROFL!

Power Player
07-03-2012, 07:29 PM
This is Fedace at his finest.

ChicagoJack
07-03-2012, 07:55 PM
On the old Prince Triple Threat racquets, if you hit either of the tungsten / graphite sections at 10 or 2 those were like 2 more sweet spots. The feel was incredible and you could get an extra 10 mph on yer serve if you hit em just right.

mawashi
07-03-2012, 10:21 PM
On the old Prince Triple Threat racquets, if you hit either of the tungsten / graphite sections at 10 or 2 those were like 2 more sweet spots. The feel was incredible and you could get an extra 10 mph on yer serve if you hit em just right.

I though if you hit it all in the right order it becomes a magical sword lol!

El Diablo
07-04-2012, 05:38 AM
^^ Yes, not only did hitting the ball eccentrically at 10:00 or 2:00 close to the frame produce remarkable results but the three ("Triple Threat") graphite/tungsten areas (10:00, 2:00, and on the butt cap) could be used to line up your shot, by triangulation, like Optispot.

cocarrot
10-12-2012, 04:18 AM
Playtested Pure Drive Roddick 2012 today, adjusted the specs to ~345g/31.5cm and here we go:

+ my 2hbh has never been that effortlessly powerful, just wow
+ off centre hits are no longer an issue, even late returns go through
+ this stick is a serve monster, my service was lethal at times
+ spin city, could be hitting topspin groundstrokes all day long
+ maneuverable and solid by the net, volleys better than I expected

- too much power on my fh side, difficult to control with a full swing
- limited feel, the racket seems to be somehow hollow and dull
- not precise on touch shots, drops etc, perhaps it needs some getting used to
- expected better stability, but this might come from lacks in my technique as well
- the shiny lustrous parts of the paintjob suck, but that's my subjective opinion

Overall, definitely a keeper for me. Needs some getting used to as I usually play with much flexier and thinner beam control frames. This user-friendly stick will be great for the games when I lack my own power or play not against my rivals but against the d**n hangover after Saturday night parties :)

cocarrot
10-12-2012, 07:49 AM
Playtested Pure Drive Roddick 2012 today, adjusted the specs to ~345g/31.5cm

Forgot to mention, PDR was strung with Solinco Tour Bite/Head RIP Control @53lbs. Strings were moving a lot, perhaps full poly at similar or higher tension will do the job for those who doesn't like string movement.

Roforot
10-13-2012, 03:19 AM
Had my first go w/ the PDR 2012 on the wall and practicing serves.

First thing I noted is that their handle is bigger than Yonnex/Wilson. I use a 4 3/8ths and this felt like a 4 1/2. Might be another factor for why people're having arm problems w/ this frame. Also helps explain why Nadal uses a relatively small grip.

The big thing is that the frame felt good and very stable. I'm used to having the frame flex and feeling the ball shoot out w/ my Yonex... that feeling is gone w/ the PDR, the swing is more like the wave of an ocean swallowing the tennis ball. Can see how some might want more feedback from hitting the ball.

I was most surprised by how well I hit the one handed topspin BH. Especially against the wall, I struggle to hit the ball early or on the rise w/ my regular racquet, but the PDR despite looking thick, felt very manueverable and was exceptionally stable.

Slice BHs felt awkward but it may be more the head shape coming from YY.

The big thing is the serve of course? Initially I wasn't too impressed. My legs were sore from having worked out the day prior. Switching to my old frame for a few rounds, I could see though that the PDR definitely had more power. It may have more spin too but not sure. I felt the 2nd serves had the same height but a bit more velocity.

With the serve again there's the difference in feel. With the Yonex if I hit the ball right, there's a wonderful flex and the ball shoots out just as hard as anything. With the PDR I feel I can consistently hit a hard/heavy serve.

I'm a 4.0 all court player. The demo was strung w/ a Prince multi. Coming from a racquet TW reviewed w/ a power level nearly 20 points lower, I was surprised how easily I adjusted to the PDR. Will try it in some matchplay to see about volleys, touch shots.

The only nagging issue is b/c of the gripsize or shape, I don't plan on playing more than a set at a time. It feels comfortable but I hope this week will be enough of a test on my elbow.

tennisnut09
10-13-2012, 05:07 AM
This racket is easy to play with as long as you get the right string and tension.

Roforot
10-14-2012, 04:55 PM
First day playing some points (rained out past 2 days)... overall I feel no discomfort. By the end of the day, I felt adjusted more adjusted for serves... but still finding my range. The neat thing I found is that I can defend much better... but missed a lot of shots into the net b/c 1) I was worried about hitting the ball out and 2) There's a lot of spin here... Net play was awkward... I hit a lot of volleys deeper than intended.

Best news is there isn't any pain or twinge of pain. I feel I can adjust/control to the frame but it will take me longer than a week.

I'm thinking of buying a PDR for an extended go at it. Worse case if I have arm issues, I'll sell it in the classified around Christmas.

But if I like it, I'll need to order more frames. I've heard quality control can be sketchy on Babolats. Is this true w/ their flagships as well?

If I just weight this first frame and have them send out frames w/ close weight, is that going to close enough? Or do I need to take it up a level and ask for SW measurements?

I mentioned I feel this handle is slightly bigger than most 4 3/8ths I've used. I was going to order a 4 1/4th but is this something that may vary as well?

Thanks.

tennisnut09
10-14-2012, 06:05 PM
I've tried quite a few setups and I think I finally find the right set up for this racket (took recommendation from other thread). In my experience, the hybrid of pacific classic main and co focus cross 58/54 is perfect for this racket. It is very easy on the arm. It is soft and it gives you control, and spin. If you string yourself, it costs around $20 per set.

Roforot
10-14-2012, 06:29 PM
Thanks for the suggestion... I honestly feel my control issues are primarily related to the new frame. If I can control the serve then it's more a matter of technique than equipment...

Don't want to change anything for the next month or so, but I'll keep your stringing recommendations in mind when I do get around to mixing it up.

Do you have any advice related to quality control? How many frames do you have? Are they pretty even? I'd prefer to have three or so frames in the end and want the other two match the first one...

tennisnut09
10-14-2012, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the suggestion... I honestly feel my control issues are primarily related to the new frame. If I can control the serve then it's more a matter of technique than equipment...

Don't want to change anything for the next month or so, but I'll keep your stringing recommendations in mind when I do get around to mixing it up.

Do you have any advice related to quality control? How many frames do you have? Are they pretty even? I'd prefer to have three or so frames in the end and want the other two match the first one...

I have 2. I bought one new and one used. They are not even but very close. One feels a little head heavier than the other but they are still acceptable.

zoobears
12-16-2013, 07:26 AM
Anyone tried to weigh a pure drive into a pdr? What were your experiences? Could you get it to feel the same?

DonBot
12-16-2013, 11:26 AM
Playtested Pure Drive Roddick 2012 today, adjusted the specs to ~345g/31.5cm and here we go:
- too much power on my fh side, difficult to control with a full swing

lol shocking it was too much to control on the FH side with an extra 10 or so grams of lead...lol I don't know how I missed this post before...the trick to this baby is tons of spin off both wings...if you hit a flatter ball, I think you want to look elsewhere.

zoobears
12-16-2013, 11:54 AM
Push through the ball more to hit flatter.

The Isomotion31
12-16-2013, 01:38 PM
Picked this up from a local shop for an excellent price. Coming from the PDR GT the transition was not much. But the specs are what I love. It does feel a little more dampened than the PDR GT.

DonBot
12-17-2013, 02:51 AM
Picked this up from a local shop for an excellent price. Coming from the PDR GT the transition was not much. But the specs are what I love. It does feel a little more dampened than the PDR GT.

I have been playing the gt plus for sometime and thinking about taking the plunge on some new 2012s....is the dampened feel the only difference between the raquets?

The Isomotion31
12-17-2013, 11:40 AM
I can slightly feel the lighter swing weight. I have them both leaded at 3 and 9.

The dampened feel makes the racket feel just enough less stiff imo.

In all honesty, I'd have to be majorly tuned in if someone where to give me my old racket paint jobbed to the 2012.

The reason why I "upgraded" was the deal was too good and it was the last in my grip size.

DonBot
12-17-2013, 12:34 PM
I can slightly feel the lighter swing weight. I have them both leaded at 3 and 9.

The dampened feel makes the racket feel just enough less stiff imo.

In all honesty, I'd have to be majorly tuned in if someone where to give me my old racket paint jobbed to the 2012.

The reason why I "upgraded" was the deal was too good and it was the last in my grip size.

I am pretty sure from talking with my buddy who is a babolat rep that they haven't discontinued this baby yet... I was going to wate for a better discount before I picked up a couple.