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scx
02-16-2012, 12:54 PM
I've just found the specs of the above mentioned racquets:

Yonex Vcore Tour 97
- Composition: Elastic Ti/High Modulus Graphite.
- Beam: 20 mm.
- Head Size: 97 sq. in. .
- Length: 68,50 cm.
- String Pattern: 16 - 19.
- String Tension: 26 - 24 Kp.
- Weight (unstrung): 310 g.

Yonex Vcore Tour 89
same composition, beam, length, string pattern and tension
different
- Head Size: 89 sq. in. .
- Weight (unstrung): 325 g.

My guess is that the 97 version is probably an update of RD TI 80 Lite.

Tour 89 Pic:
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4214/yvct89.jpg

Tour 97 Pic:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8398/yvct97.jpg

Now, I "only" have to find Tour 97 for a test, to compare with the Vcore 98
and RD TI 80 Lite that I already own.

nikosrf
02-16-2012, 12:59 PM
What about stiffness?

scotus
02-16-2012, 01:02 PM
I like the paint job of regular VCores much better.

djnemo
02-16-2012, 02:07 PM
Any idea on balance? Not much difference between the 97 and VCore 98 unless Balance is different....

sargeinaz
02-16-2012, 02:16 PM
These are nice. I like the paintjob way more than the regular v cores. I may need to demo these cause the 95D is great.

Fed Kennedy
02-16-2012, 02:50 PM
Looks good, love the red. 310 grams for a tour frame seems kinda light...tempting though....

rdis10093
02-16-2012, 02:56 PM
the 89 seems light to compared to the wilson, dunlop, and head mid frames.

I bet the 89 feels really flexy.

zumzool
02-16-2012, 05:17 PM
not a tour weight at all.

the paint job reminds me of the rqis1 tour. not a fan of it...

the biggest difference from the vcore 95 is the string pattern....16 x 19 on this 97 tour version.

Bartelby
02-16-2012, 06:53 PM
03 tour and radical pro are 310 = minimum tour weight

Chyeaah
02-16-2012, 09:57 PM
Why is there Ti in there? Ti is titanium right?

lefty001
02-16-2012, 10:10 PM
I guess these are going to replace the URD Ti 80s.
I am guessing the flex is going to be low 60s.

Fed Kennedy
02-16-2012, 11:15 PM
So the basic idea is that these are flexier?

lefty001
02-16-2012, 11:58 PM
I would say more low powered and control oriented.
Lower powered than the 95D

Automatix
02-17-2012, 12:56 AM
Still the OP states that the composition is HMG and Elastic Ti aka Gummetal instead of the Ultimate Ti used in available today RD Ti 80.

Elastic Ti was used in the RDS models.
And was used by Toyota.

Jack Romeo
02-17-2012, 01:06 AM
Still the OP states that the composition is HMG and Elastic Ti aka Gummetal instead of the Ultimate Ti used in available today RD Ti 80.

Elastic Ti was used in the RDS models.
And was used by Toyota.

ultimum ti not ultimate ti. this is an older version of elastic ti. recall that the rd ti 80 is actually an older model than the rdx/rds/rdis series. but it was popular throughout the 2000's because of srichaphan and pierce. they had actually phased this model out already when they introduced the other series of rackets but they brought it back after a while.

Automatix
02-17-2012, 01:08 AM
ultimum ti not ultimate ti. this is an older version of elastic ti. recall that the rd ti 80 is actually an older model than the rdx/rds/rdis series. but it was popular throughout the 2000's because of srichaphan and pierce. they had actually phased this model out already when they introduced the other series of rackets but they brought it back after a while.

And the bizarre headsize of the 89 Tour is more in line with the RD Ti 70 ( 88 ).

pavo26
02-17-2012, 09:40 AM
Any idea when they are scheduled to be released?

zumzool
02-17-2012, 10:34 AM
when I'm thinking tour weight... i'm thinking it should be one of the heaviest racquets in the line up...

the 95D is 10 grams heavier unstrung than the 97 tour....

with the similar specs of the 95D, it seems that the 97 tour should be heavier.

sargeinaz
02-17-2012, 11:12 AM
when I'm thinking tour weight... i'm thinking it should be one of the heaviest racquets in the line up...

the 95D is 10 grams heavier unstrung than the 97 tour....

with the similar specs of the 95D, it seems that the 97 tour should be heavier.

I agree, the 97 should be like 320-325g at least.

rdis10093
02-17-2012, 11:21 AM
guess fed no longer plays with the smallest headsize.

HurricaneDominic
02-18-2012, 03:04 AM
I currently use the RQiS 1 Tour and the VCore 97 Tour seems like quite a nice replacement, even though I was looking to move up to a 100sq" headsize.
The paintjob is quite nice, I think it will look better in HD pictures. I wonder why they didn't continue with the RQiS line? I know Ivanovic changed to the EZone's but other players using the RQiS went to VCore's, so I wouldn't say EZone was a direct replacement for the RQiS line, especially spec wise.

Bartelby
02-18-2012, 03:14 AM
Not as small as the prestige mid.


guess fed no longer plays with the smallest headsize.

Jack Romeo
02-18-2012, 07:11 AM
Not as small as the prestige mid.

which version? the ig version is 93.

bruintennis
02-18-2012, 08:18 AM
Great info. I heard about these racquets in early January, but only knew the head sizes. Will be interesting to know the flex.

eleventeenth street
02-18-2012, 01:33 PM
which version? the ig version is 93.

all prestige mids are 89.5 sq. in or thereabouts

sargeinaz
02-18-2012, 02:21 PM
Great info. I heard about these racquets in early January, but only knew the head sizes. Will be interesting to know the flex.

I agree. Looking forward to seeing the flex on them both. This summer i'll demo the 97 and 95 side by side and see which v-core i prefer. The 95 is simply an awesome frame and I love the extra pop it has. I'm thinking the 97 will have lower power, but well see.

Fed Kennedy
02-18-2012, 02:44 PM
I agree. Looking forward to seeing the flex on them both. This summer i'll demo the 97 and 95 side by side and see which v-core i prefer. The 95 is simply an awesome frame and I love the extra pop it has. I'm thinking the 97 will have lower power, but well see.

I am really intrigued by both offerings as well. Would have liked to see the 97 at 325 grams as well...the 95 such a sublime blend of power and control with the 16x20. I have a leather on mine, its like ps85 for dummies.
I am a sucker for red racquets as well lol.

sargeinaz
02-18-2012, 03:20 PM
I am really intrigued by both offerings as well. Would have liked to see the 97 at 325 grams as well...the 95 such a sublime blend of power and control with the 16x20. I have a leather on mine, its like ps85 for dummies.
I am a sucker for red racquets as well lol.

Thats a good way to put it. I have a ps85 and the yonex has that firm, but comfortable feel. They are kind of similar. And exactly, I hit flat and I could just drill flat drive groundies repeatedly with it and still hit that nice prostaff like slice that just drives flat. Not to mention the slice serves are awesome with it. And ya I agree, yonexes and red just go together. These new tour paintjobs are killer.

FlatShots
02-18-2012, 04:35 PM
Here is the Yonex V-Core Tour 89 on a website.
The 97 is also on the website.
They are both not available at this moment.

http://www.tennisworld24.com/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p4311_Yonex-VCORE-Tour-89.html

Jack Romeo
02-18-2012, 05:44 PM
all prestige mids are 89.5 sq. in or thereabouts

why the considerable discrepancy between actual and published head sizes? doesn't make sense.

HurricaneDominic
02-19-2012, 06:41 AM
Normally the information for these rackets can be found on the YONEX JAPAN website, but there doesn't seem to be a news article on the two rackets in question.

However, I did come across an article on some new VCore's, the SPEED and 100P. I have no idea whether they'll be available in the USA/EUROPE.

Here's a picture:

http://s13.postimage.org/ruj44f6lj/Yonex_VCore_Speed_and_100_S.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
adult image hosting (http://postimage.org/)

eleventeenth street
02-19-2012, 08:53 AM
why the considerable discrepancy between actual and published head sizes? doesn't make sense.

i don't know. marketing possibly? with the trend towards larger head sizes, maybe it's easier for Head to sell frames when they're advertised as 93s. but older iterations of the prestige had 89.5 sq in printed on them and they've never changed the head size. that's why you can interchange the cap grommets on all versions of the prestige mid.

rdis10093
02-19-2012, 09:02 AM
will these for sure come to US?

scx
02-19-2012, 09:42 AM
still no details on stiffness, balance or SW.

I'll try to find out during the next week, when can we expect the racquets in stores.

California
02-22-2012, 07:12 PM
I agree, the 97 should be like 320-325g at least.

I agree as well... 325 would be nice, with a strung swingweight around 335.

zumzool
03-06-2012, 05:50 AM
is there any new info on this? i'm itching to get back into a yonex.... but nothing in the current lineup really suits my game.

eleventeenth street
04-07-2012, 10:41 AM
don't know if this has been posted yet. new vcore tour 97 pic

http://www.yonex.ch/typo3temp/pics/8257a4bd5d.jpg

XFactorer
04-07-2012, 11:30 AM
Specs from the German website:

97 sq in
16 x 20 string pattern
27 in length
310mm balance point (~7 pts headlight)
310 grams unstrung (~11.5 oz strung)

dekko1
04-07-2012, 02:31 PM
I had a hit with the 89 a few days ago.
So, I play with Vcore 95, but have played most of my tennis life with small head (pro staff original).
The 89 already feels like a classic racquet. Great maneuverability, great flex, good balance, quite crisp and great spin for a small head.
Sweet spot felt quite big, and I did not have to adjust much of my strokes to play with it; I was hitting great from the 1st shot.

With all that, I still prefer my 95d, bigger sweet spot, more spin, more power. But for those who are looking for a classic feel, something more old school, and is having trouble finding these days, this can surely be a great option!!

zumzool
04-07-2012, 02:46 PM
Specs from the German website:

97 sq in
16 x 20 string pattern
27 in length
310mm balance point (~7 pts headlight)
310 grams unstrung (~11.5 oz strung)

I am truly at a loss.... what purpose does this racquet have? It's 10 grams lighter and 2 sq inches bigger than the 95d and called a "tour" and has the same string pattern? so what makes it noticeably different from the 95d? I was really hoping for a 16 x 19 complement to the 100s.

Fed Kennedy
04-07-2012, 03:15 PM
I had a hit with the 89 a few days ago.
So, I play with Vcore 95, but have played most of my tennis life with small head (pro staff original).
The 89 already feels like a classic racquet. Great maneuverability, great flex, good balance, quite crisp and great spin for a small head.
Sweet spot felt quite big, and I did not have to adjust much of my strokes to play with it; I was hitting great from the 1st shot.

With all that, I still prefer my 95d, bigger sweet spot, more spin, more power. But for those who are looking for a classic feel, something more old school, and is having trouble finding these days, this can surely be a great option!!

What is the string pattern on the 89?

sargeinaz
04-07-2012, 03:17 PM
What is the string pattern on the 89?

I thought both the 89 and 97 were 16x19

Fed Kennedy
04-07-2012, 03:37 PM
I thought both the 89 and 97 were 16x19

In the pic the 97 is 16x20

rdis10093
04-07-2012, 03:39 PM
I had a hit with the 89 a few days ago.
So, I play with Vcore 95, but have played most of my tennis life with small head (pro staff original).
The 89 already feels like a classic racquet. Great maneuverability, great flex, good balance, quite crisp and great spin for a small head.
Sweet spot felt quite big, and I did not have to adjust much of my strokes to play with it; I was hitting great from the 1st shot.

With all that, I still prefer my 95d, bigger sweet spot, more spin, more power. But for those who are looking for a classic feel, something more old school, and is having trouble finding these days, this can surely be a great option!!

when is the ETA?

Fed Kennedy
04-07-2012, 03:40 PM
Love the new pj too. Wish it wasnt white on one side but you cant have it all...the 95 is looking better and better, but i will demo the 89.

rdis10093
04-07-2012, 03:44 PM
vcore 95 has to much power, but I hope the 89 is good. I can't wait to demo it.

lefty001
04-17-2012, 10:11 AM
Released on Japanese Yonex website.
On sale end of May

89
Weight 325g
http://www.yonex.co.jp/products/tennisracquet/vct89.html

97
Weight 310g and 330g
http://www.yonex.co.jp/products/tennisracquet/vct97.html

Fed Kennedy
04-17-2012, 10:17 AM
330 grams. Whoo hoo!

eleventeenth street
04-17-2012, 10:58 AM
huh. so there are going to be both light and heavy versions of the tour 97? sweeeet

JGads
04-17-2012, 11:01 AM
Released on Japanese Yonex website.
On sale end of May

89
Weight 325g
http://www.yonex.co.jp/products/tennisracquet/vct89.html

97
Weight 310g and 330g
http://www.yonex.co.jp/products/tennisracquet/vct97.html

These are strung specs, right?

97 tour could be nice.

tistrapukcipeht
04-17-2012, 11:05 AM
I was between Ti 80 lite and RDiS 200 lite and Xi 98 for my next racquets, I might have to wait until then. Now I'm helpless.

I just bought yesterday an Ezone Xi Team Plus, man, I'm pi... now, I can't be buying these racquets every month.

They look really nice

eleventeenth street
04-17-2012, 11:05 AM
These are strung specs, right?

97 tour could be nice.

pretty sure those are unstrung specs

tistrapukcipeht
04-17-2012, 11:06 AM
These are strung specs, right?

97 tour could be nice.

As far as the link says, it is all unstrung.

JGads
04-17-2012, 11:07 AM
As far as the link says, it is all unstrung.

oh wow, interesting. guess that would make sense with the 'tour' label.

tistrapukcipeht
04-17-2012, 11:08 AM
Very long throat as well.

Corners, what are they trying to do with a very long throat opposed to a smaller throat from the Xi series??

Do you have an answer for this man?

eleventeenth street
04-17-2012, 11:09 AM
really like that the head shapes for the vcore tours seem to be a bit more rounded as well, more like the rdis line

tistrapukcipeht
04-17-2012, 11:11 AM
oh wow, interesting. guess that would make sense with the 'tour' label.

I guess they really mean it.

330g plus string and over grip that will be around 350g at least.

Mid size is not my type, I like 98 to 102, in this case I'll look at the 97, lol for once.

Automatix
04-17-2012, 11:15 AM
I wonder if Micro Core replaces the Solid Feel Core.

Fed Kennedy
04-17-2012, 11:18 AM
I cant read the kanji, can someone read the rest of eh e specs?

tistrapukcipeht
04-17-2012, 11:22 AM
I wonder if Micro Core replaces the Solid Feel Core.

-The world's first micro core with high-density core material
- micro carbon fullerene core high elasticity

tistrapukcipeht
04-17-2012, 11:23 AM
counting the strings is 16x20 all over the racquets.

What a shame, I wanted 16x19.

ciocc
04-17-2012, 11:24 AM
台湾製 = Made in Taiwan

So they are not made in Japan anymore? Or Are they referring to some accessories only?
Just saying as I don't really care.

tistrapukcipeht
04-17-2012, 11:26 AM
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yonex.co.jp%2Fproducts%2Ftennis racquet%2Fvct97.html&act=url

Case is made in Taiwan!

Fed Kennedy
04-17-2012, 11:29 AM
Dang. I was thinking about getting a 100, but the 97t looks incroyable!

rdis10093
04-17-2012, 11:37 AM
tis a pipedream

Fed Kennedy
04-17-2012, 11:41 AM
tis a pipedream

What do you mean? Its not legit??

eleventeenth street
04-17-2012, 11:43 AM
台湾製 = Made in Taiwan

So they are not made in Japan anymore? Or Are they referring to some accessories only?
Just saying as I don't really care.

the case and grommets are made in taiwan.
the text above the specs near the price, 日本製, says the racquet is made in japan

sargeinaz
04-17-2012, 01:38 PM
Whoa. 330 grams and a thinner beam than the 95? This thing and the new prokennex are must trys.

XFactorer
04-17-2012, 02:58 PM
How do we know this has a thinner beam than the 95?

Oh! And they mention "high elasticity" in the material section... :-) I want my noodle racquet back (like the RDX 500s)!

corners
04-17-2012, 03:31 PM
"Tennis super attack! Gyro drive growth overwhelming!
Tennis super attack to change the playing style of the world!
Overwhelm the enemy with the gyro drives!"

From Yonex description of the 97. I want to hit Gyro drives so bad! And then this:

"The world's first micro core with high-density core material."

I would be inclined to think they were going Xene on us, but that wouldn't actually be the world's first.

Fed Kennedy
04-17-2012, 03:33 PM
The 97 is the greatest racquet ever made

XFactorer
04-17-2012, 03:33 PM
I find the Donnay throats to be distractingly and uncomfortably thin. 18.5mm is a good throat size, ala the RQiS 1 Tours.

rdis10093
04-17-2012, 03:45 PM
What do you mean? Its not legit??

no haha, sorry I was not clear. I meant like the specs being to my liking. Sounds like the 89 are going to play more like the rqis (flexy.) From what I was told. I wish it would be a stiff racquet with mass.

tistrapukcipeht
04-17-2012, 03:46 PM
"Tennis super attack! Gyro drive growth overwhelming!
Tennis super attack to change the playing style of the world!
Overwhelm the enemy with the gyro drives!"

From Yonex description of the 97. I want to hit Gyro drives so bad! And then this:

"The world's first micro core with high-density core material."

I would be inclined to think they were going Xene on us, but that wouldn't actually be the world's first.

On that translator it says:

X-micro carbon fullerene core high elasticity, not xenecore or whatever it is.

After reading some threads, people were saying Donnay racquets come with lead, they are pretty much deceiving people, I don't want none of that, I take it as raw as it comes, so no Donnay for me, I will stick with these Yonex, since I bought a ezone xi team plus yesterday for some extra spin.

I also believe Yonex has much better quality and design than Donnay.

corners
04-17-2012, 04:27 PM
The 97 is the greatest racquet ever made

I just finished my virtual demo and I'm inclined to agree!

klementine79
04-17-2012, 04:35 PM
"Tennis super attack! Gyro drive growth overwhelming!
Tennis super attack to change the playing style of the world!
Overwhelm the enemy with the gyro drives!"

From Yonex description of the 97. I want to hit Gyro drives so bad! And then this:

"The world's first micro core with high-density core material."

I would be inclined to think they were going Xene on us, but that wouldn't actually be the world's first.

Maybe it was designed to ward off....... Godzilla!!!!!!????!!!

Racquets look good.... Gyro drives sound like digitized contraception. Easy.

zumzool
04-18-2012, 06:17 AM
now if only we could find out the flex rating and whether it'll be available in the US

edwincen
04-18-2012, 06:47 AM
whoaaa.... almost buy another 95D, luckily you get me to know the 97T will be released soon:D
curious about its balance.

eleventeenth street
04-18-2012, 09:17 AM
whoaaa.... almost buy another 95D, luckily you get me to know the 97T will be released soon:D
curious about its balance.

don't know about the others but the 310g tour 97 has an unstrung balance of 310mm

eleventeenth street
04-18-2012, 09:25 AM
here is a much larger picture of the tour 97

http://www.racketshop.ch/catalog/images/VCORE_97%20bespannt.jpg

eidolonshinobi
04-18-2012, 05:49 PM
Released on Japanese Yonex website.
On sale end of May

89
Weight 325g
http://www.yonex.co.jp/products/tennisracquet/vct89.html

97
Weight 310g and 330g
http://www.yonex.co.jp/products/tennisracquet/vct97.html

If this is true, and the racquet feels great....say hello to a new Yonex convert.

I've been searching for a racquet that's as heavy as the PB10 mid in stock (or close) with a bigger headsize and a bit tighter string pattern. The 97 would fit the bill.

Fed Kennedy
04-18-2012, 05:51 PM
These vcore tours will make yonex bigger than nike

retlod
04-18-2012, 06:10 PM
Sign me up for that 310g 97T.

XFactorer
04-18-2012, 06:25 PM
here is a much larger picture of the tour 97

http://www.racketshop.ch/catalog/images/VCORE_97%20bespannt.jpg

Nice find!

I wonder what the "micro core" thing is...

sw00sh
04-18-2012, 11:11 PM
Is the grip = synthetic leather grip or those PVC cushiony type?

Any idea?

Thanks!

XFactorer
04-18-2012, 11:40 PM
Is the grip = synthetic leather grip or those PVC cushiony type?

Any idea?

Thanks!

Most likely a standard cushy grip. Is there a Yonex in stock form that comes with synthetic leather grips?

sw00sh
04-18-2012, 11:50 PM
Yes, the present Ti80 but soon to be phase-out. Its on sales now at $99, and if you are interested, better act fast on it. :-)

XFactorer
04-19-2012, 12:21 AM
Oh... yeah. I'm over it. I went from the Ti80 Lite back to the RQiS 1 Tour. Now I'm on the EZONE Xi98 until the VCORE 97T comes out.

sw00sh
04-19-2012, 12:24 AM
What's makes you go back to the RQiS 1 Tour if I may ask?
I am moving from RDX500 mid to RDiS100 then to RDS001, and now Ti80 Lite. Needed something in range of 315-310gm unstrung stock frame. But somehow Ti80 lite is proving to be a hard frame to tame especially playing against a higher level opponent. Like you, I may be just looking at VCore 97T as the solution.

Swan Song
04-19-2012, 04:26 AM
http://www.yonex.com/tennis/vcore

New technology is the Micro Core technology, which is a type of foam injected into the frame to provide stability and power, per Yonex. Width for both 89 and 97 in2. is 19 mm. shaft, 20 mm. head like the Ti-80. Stan Wawrinka is supposed to use this frame or a paintjob at the Madrid Masters.

maxpotapov
04-19-2012, 08:28 AM
http://www.yonex.com/tennis/vcore

New technology is the Micro Core technology, which is a type of foam injected into the frame to provide stability and power, per Yonex. Width for both 89 and 97 in2. is 19 mm. shaft, 20 mm. head like the Ti-80. Stan Wawrinka is supposed to use this frame or a paintjob at the Madrid Masters.

They look like a dream! Now I'd like to know how they perform compared to Prestige IG Mid and MP, can't wait to read a review...

rdis10093
04-19-2012, 08:52 AM
is the 325g for the 89 tour strung our unstrung weight?

zumzool
04-19-2012, 09:03 AM
I wonder if this is supposed to be a d (drive) or an s (spin) racquet. The marketing says spin and the 16 x 20 says its a drive..... Wonder what kind of grommets it's got....

Automatix
04-19-2012, 09:44 AM
is the 325g for the 89 tour strung our unstrung weight?

All specs are unstrung.

nyc
04-19-2012, 10:01 AM
So...which racquet is Wawrinka REALLY playing with?

Even Yonex.com is stating conflicting info. It mentions the 97Tour and 98D for Wawa.

Meanwhile, he was spotted earlier in the year with a 95D (pre-paint job).

rdis10093
04-19-2012, 10:06 AM
All specs are unstrung.

so I guess it ways the same as the rdis 93

Geology_Rocks!
04-19-2012, 11:43 AM
This 97 has huge potential to be my first Yonex.

XFactorer
04-19-2012, 01:02 PM
What's makes you go back to the RQiS 1 Tour if I may ask?
I am moving from RDX500 mid to RDiS100 then to RDS001, and now Ti80 Lite. Needed something in range of 315-310gm unstrung stock frame. But somehow Ti80 lite is proving to be a hard frame to tame especially playing against a higher level opponent. Like you, I may be just looking at VCore 97T as the solution.

Well, I moved back to the RQiS 1 Tour because I missed it's feel. But I moved AWAY from it because of it's headsize combined with my inability to volley. I'm with the EZONE Xi98 right now and pretty happy, especially now that I've discovered PolyTour Spin in it at 45 lbs. And I added some lead tape to 3 and 9. Stock form was too instable for me, again, I hit a lot of off-centered volleys.

I'll try out the 97T G (310g) and HG (330g) versions with the intention of switching purely because it's a new racquet. hehe.

XFactorer
04-19-2012, 01:07 PM
Found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EkXviC_1zs

nyc
04-19-2012, 01:37 PM
and the 89 Review is here:

http://youtu.be/uWHGHMqz5ks

Fed Kennedy
04-19-2012, 01:38 PM
Wow they like the 89

XFactorer
04-19-2012, 02:51 PM
This 97 has huge potential to be my first Yonex.

Nice! Hope you convert!

sargeinaz
04-19-2012, 04:06 PM
Wow they like the 89

Yup. Not gonna lie, they made me want to demo the 89 as well. Interesting about the longer throat/shortening the length while keeping it wide part too. If it's stiff and comfy as they say, thats my favorite combination (like the 85/90 inch wilsons or the 6.1's). If the sweet spot is as big as they say, this may be the stick to use daily instead of my PS85. I hope that we can hear a review of the 330gm tour and get that version stateside.

JGads
04-19-2012, 04:33 PM
They look like they're floating their shots a bit, which isn't always the case. Paintjobs do like very nice on those sticks.

retlod
04-19-2012, 05:06 PM
This 97 has huge potential to be my first Yonex.

Same here.

I talked to our buyer and it looks like the Yonex VCORE Tour 89 and 97 should be available in mid May for pre-sale and in stock at the beginning of June.

Brittany, TW

^^^Good news.

tistrapukcipeht
04-19-2012, 05:45 PM
Well, I moved back to the RQiS 1 Tour because I missed it's feel. But I moved AWAY from it because of it's headsize combined with my inability to volley. I'm with the EZONE Xi98 right now and pretty happy, especially now that I've discovered PolyTour Spin in it at 45 lbs. And I added some lead tape to 3 and 9. Stock form was too instable for me, again, I hit a lot of off-centered volleys.

I'll try out the 97T G (310g) and HG (330g) versions with the intention of switching purely because it's a new racquet. hehe.

How is the spin production of Xi 98?

Is it open pattern, spin friendly??

In this video review they said the VCORE TOURs are spin friendly, so more than never I will demo the 97 310g. I wonder if it is because the the longer throat.

XFactorer
04-19-2012, 07:43 PM
How is the spin production of Xi 98?

Is it open pattern, spin friendly??

In this video review they said the VCORE TOURs are spin friendly, so more than never I will demo the 97 310g. I wonder if it is because the the longer throat.

I don't believe in "Spin friendly" racquets.

I get enough spin from the Xi98. But, I'm not really a spin player.

Casco
04-19-2012, 08:44 PM
Just noticed new infor on the Yonex website:
The Vcore Tour 97 will come in two weights 310 (H) AND 330 grams (HG).
330 grams has me very interested in this stick.
Pretty happy with my Babolat PSTGTs with 4 inches of 1/4 inch lead tape centered around 930 and 230, but feel like I'm loosing a little feel through the Woofer and wouldn't mind just a little more weight. And I really liked the Yonex's that I've previously owned - the 100MP (which was similar spec to my PSTGTs) and the 002 Tour (330 grams like the HG Vcore Tour 97).

jackcrawford
04-20-2012, 05:47 AM
The 97 is the greatest racquet ever madeThis is the TW review, with guest reviewers, of the 97, they sold the rights of their prototype to Yonex :)http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/TWHG/TWHGReview.html

Snaab
04-20-2012, 06:27 AM
Now the question is: for the 97 Tour, will the 310 gram unstrung weight model be available in the larger grip sizes or will only the heavier 330 gram model (ala RD Ti-80)? If they make the 310 gram weight in a G5 grip I am in.

Automatix
04-20-2012, 06:38 AM
Now the question is: for the 97 Tour, will the 310 gram unstrung weight model be available in the larger grip sizes or will only the heavier 330 gram model (ala RD Ti-80)? If they make the 310 gram weight in a G5 grip I am in.

Both weight versions will be available. So if you want a G5 310g version that is not a problem.

corners
04-20-2012, 08:01 AM
Now the question is: for the 97 Tour, will the 310 gram unstrung weight model be available in the larger grip sizes or will only the heavier 330 gram model (ala RD Ti-80)? If they make the 310 gram weight in a G5 grip I am in.

They are using the same G and HG designations they did with the Rdis 200, where both versions are offered in overlapping grip sizes.

corners
04-20-2012, 08:06 AM
So they are using some kind of "micro core" material in these frames. I wonder if they too are using a "smart foam" like Donnay is doing with their "XeneCore", which is nothing more than a smart foam called Expancel.

Yonex may be using something completely different though.

Automatix
04-20-2012, 08:37 AM
There already are reviews of both versions on a competitor site.

rdis10093
04-20-2012, 08:47 AM
I only saw the 97 reveiw, but what NTRP do you think those guys are?

XFactorer
04-20-2012, 09:00 AM
So they are using some kind of "micro core" material in these frames. I wonder if they too are using a "smart foam" like Donnay is doing with their "XeneCore", which is nothing more than a smart foam called Expancel.

Yonex may be using something completely different though.

The Microcore looks to be high-density foam injected into the frame ONLY at 2 and 10.

Looks to be a weight-related technology that then produces a stabler racquet face.

Automatix
04-20-2012, 09:18 AM
I only saw the 97 reveiw... They reviewed both.

The Microcore looks to be high-density foam injected into the frame ONLY at 2 and 10.

Looks to be a weight-related technology that then produces a stabler racquet face. Correct. This is similar to the Prince TTT (Tungsten Triple Threat) technology, though Yonex used hd foam and Prince used tungsten and copper.

Chyeaah
04-20-2012, 10:00 AM
Looking at the 97 intently. I want the 310 version D=.

baowow
04-20-2012, 10:02 AM
Looking forward to the vcore 89. only been using the vcore 95 for about a month. Might have to switch again.

Why EU always get racquets before the US?

Chyeaah
04-20-2012, 10:05 AM
If this is extended length. Impulse buy!

Automatix
04-20-2012, 10:29 AM
All are standard length.

syke
04-20-2012, 10:42 AM
Someone needs to demo the entire 89, 95, 97, 98, 100 Vcore range! We need a thorough breakdown on each of these racquets.

nyc
04-20-2012, 11:04 AM
I only saw the 97 reveiw, but what NTRP do you think those guys are?

Not having seen any matchplay, my wild guess would be John 4.5-5 and Ben 5.5+

tistrapukcipeht
04-20-2012, 04:45 PM
I don't believe in "Spin friendly" racquets.

I get enough spin from the Xi98. But, I'm not really a spin player.

Ok, gotcha!

But spin friendly racquets are for real without a doubt.:)

klementine79
04-20-2012, 06:17 PM
I'm buyin' the 89 and takin' it to game 7, overtime. Skatin' with the cup.

Pocky
04-20-2012, 07:20 PM
I am truly at a loss.... what purpose does this racquet have? It's 10 grams lighter and 2 sq inches bigger than the 95d and called a "tour" and has the same string pattern? so what makes it noticeably different from the 95d? I was really hoping for a 16 x 19 complement to the 100s.

When you're really good, 10grams and 2sq inches is a completely different racquet.

klementine79
04-20-2012, 07:28 PM
The 89 looks like it could have the same stiffness as the rds001 mid. YES!!! 64 but felt like 60. I'm just guessing this from the description 'stiff' yet 'comfy'.

RqIsTour was good but throat was way too flexy and redirection of shots became tricky.

RDS001 mid was one of my favorites. Had a nice overall flex to it, crisp but comfortable, powerful yet control oriented and not too much pop like the rdis93. From what I've heard, the vcore95 is quite the 'beast' in terms of pop. Not what I want.

The only thing that ****es me off about Yonex, every two years they go in a completely different direction with their line, alienating their base while trying to get converts. You can do both.

The 89 is going to be just like the RDS001mid, I HOPE!!! Heavier, denser pattern and hopefully more HH and maybe one notch down in terms of RDC to compensate for the extra weight.

Anyone got any flex ratings for these yet?

Automatix
04-20-2012, 10:50 PM
...one notch down in terms of RDC to compensate for the extra weight. I think you meant RA.

RDC - Racquet Diagnostic Center.

XFactorer
04-21-2012, 12:31 AM
The 89 looks like it could have the same stiffness as the rds001 mid. YES!!! 64 but felt like 60. I'm just guessing this from the description 'stiff' yet 'comfy'.

RqIsTour was good but throat was way too flexy and redirection of shots became tricky.

RDS001 mid was one of my favorites. Had a nice overall flex to it, crisp but comfortable, powerful yet control oriented and not too much pop like the rdis93. From what I've heard, the vcore95 is quite the 'beast' in terms of pop. Not what I want.

The only thing that ****es me off about Yonex, every two years they go in a completely different direction with their line, alienating their base while trying to get converts. You can do both.

The 89 is going to be just like the RDS001mid, I HOPE!!! Heavier, denser pattern and hopefully more HH and maybe one notch down in terms of RDC to compensate for the extra weight.

Anyone got any flex ratings for these yet?

I looove the RQiS 1 Tour. The EZONE Xi98 is softer than the VCORES, but, still not there in terms of that intangible feeling I get with the RQiS 1 Tour. I hope maybe the 89 can fill that void... they did mention how it plays a lot bigger than the head size suggests.

Wish Yonex would come out with some flex ratings along with the regular mumbo jumbo specs.

klementine79
04-21-2012, 03:54 AM
I think you meant RA.

RDC - Racquet Diagnostic Center.

Yep, that's what I meant, thanks. ;)

I looove the RQiS 1 Tour. The EZONE Xi98 is softer than the VCORES, but, still not there in terms of that intangible feeling I get with the RQiS 1 Tour. I hope maybe the 89 can fill that void... they did mention how it plays a lot bigger than the head size suggests.

Wish Yonex would come out with some flex ratings along with the regular mumbo jumbo specs.

Flex is always the last spec to come out. RQiS Tour was/is a great stick and one that really needs more than 1 demo to dial in. It never took me that long to get dialed in with a stick, as it did with the RQiSt. Felt extremely under-powered but yet had massive spin potential. Just encompassed the ball. Slices were amazing with this one, flat anything felt lacking but you could toy with your opponent all day with spin.

Good news about the 89. That's how I felt about the rds001mid, played a lot bigger than the 90sq. Should have never sold that one. Flex ratings can be deceiving and in the end materials and distribution play a far greater role in determining feel.

MgPresMid+ and MgPresMid are both supposedly 63, play much closer to 60. The rds001mid was a 64, felt like a 60 and another all time favorite of mine the rds002Tour was supposedly a 65, yet had tremendous touch/feel and was in line with some 61/62ra sticks I've played. If the 97 plays anything like the rds002tour, yonex has a winner.

Those are the two sticks that yonex is missing from their line-up, the rds001mid and rds002tour. Hopefully these upcoming vTours will fill those voids.

Automatix
04-21-2012, 04:49 AM
It is very important where exactly the frame is more flexible and where it is stiffer.
The Bab RDC machine gives only one number - for flex at the bridge area.

Now I wonder how would it look like if all new racquets were tested on the Flex Infinity Machine...

http://www.flexinfinity.com/images/draw1.gif

Automatix
04-21-2012, 05:01 AM
Good news about the 89. That's how I felt about the rds001mid, played a lot bigger than the 90sq. Should have never sold that one. Flex ratings can be deceiving and in the end materials and distribution play a far greater role in determining feel.

MgPresMid+ and MgPresMid are both supposedly 63, play much closer to 60. The rds001mid was a 64, felt like a 60 and another all time favorite of mine the rds002Tour was supposedly a 65, yet had tremendous touch/feel and was in line with some 61/62ra sticks I've played. If the 97 plays anything like the rds002tour, yonex has a winner.

Those are the two sticks that yonex is missing from their line-up, the rds001mid and rds002tour. Hopefully these upcoming vTours will fill those voids. I think both the 89 and the 97 can fill the gap in the Yonex line up.

The 97 for now seems like a very versatile and modern racquet maintaining a nice thin beam.

The 95D and 98D are very good racquets but let's face it... the 95D just doesn't cut it for those looking for a classic Midsized racquet while the 98D is a bit, well thick beamed. Most manufacturers have a racquet which is 98 sq. inches with ca. 21mm beam in their line up Yonex did not (in the Vcore line). I think they were missing on a more control oriented ca. 98 square inch frame. Well, not any more. I think the 97 Tour fills the gap between the 95D and 98D very nicely and thanks to 2 weight versions you can decide if you prefer heavier or lighter.

tistrapukcipeht
04-21-2012, 09:24 AM
It is very important where exactly the frame is more flexible and where it is stiffer.
The Bab RDC machine gives only one number - for flex at the bridge area.

Now I wonder how would it look like if all new racquets were tested on the Flex Infinity Machine...

http://www.flexinfinity.com/images/draw1.gif

How much is one of these machines.

tistrapukcipeht
04-21-2012, 09:29 AM
When you're really good, 10grams and 2sq inches is a completely different racquet.

Exactly, the guy has been ranting about it all thread long.

Stiffness alone is what he buys racquets based on, while there are many things that make a racquet great, stiffness is what I don't even care much, but to each his own!

Many racquets can feel great as mine do rating 68 or something, when I bought them I just play tested and went with without even knowing about how stiff, they were.

Is good to remind him there are other brands making racquets and Yonex is not forcing him to buy anything.

corners
04-21-2012, 02:12 PM
How much is one of these machines.

A few grand. Tennis Warehouse can surely afford one. Wink, wink; nudge, nudge.

sw00sh
04-21-2012, 09:37 PM
Well, I moved back to the RQiS 1 Tour because I missed it's feel. But I moved AWAY from it because of it's headsize combined with my inability to volley. I'm with the EZONE Xi98 right now and pretty happy, especially now that I've discovered PolyTour Spin in it at 45 lbs. And I added some lead tape to 3 and 9. Stock form was too instable for me, again, I hit a lot of off-centered volleys.

I'll try out the 97T G (310g) and HG (330g) versions with the intention of switching purely because it's a new racquet. hehe.

Ah I see, wish you best of luck and dont forget to give us a review once you tried those 97T with both weights.

Thanks!

sw00sh
04-21-2012, 09:50 PM
The review from the guys from Stringer's world about the stiffness is just that the racquets play stiff.

Klementine79, I am like you hoping that the stiffness is close to RDS001 but away from RDiS100 (too stiff). For both 89T and 97T. :)

sargeinaz
04-22-2012, 12:47 AM
I agree, the RDiS100 mid was way too stiff and hurt my arm. The RDS001 was perfect. Nice and crisp, but still very comfortable.

California
04-22-2012, 09:10 AM
Can't wait to try the 97 Tour 330g version...

mjwtpro1
04-22-2012, 06:24 PM
Yeah the Tour 97 330g. sounds just right, I wonder what the stifness rating will be...but I just bought 3 PD 2012's all spec'd and matched....Yonex keeps sucking me in, and it sounds like the 89 is pretty amazing too.....:/

syke
04-22-2012, 06:41 PM
You guys should really consider the 310 version. Yonex stock grip is thin, light and squishy. It sucks basically.

If you replace them with a leather grip, add in the strings, overgrip and dampener, you will easily hit 345g with the 310. Do that with a 330, you will get 365g, which will be unwieldy and gives little room to further tweak the balance.

tistrapukcipeht
04-23-2012, 12:38 PM
You guys should really consider the 310 version. Yonex stock grip is thin, light and squishy. It sucks basically.

If you replace them with a leather grip, add in the strings, overgrip and dampener, you will easily hit 345g with the 310. Do that with a 330, you will get 365g, which will be unwieldy and gives little room to further tweak the balance.

Exactly why I like it, the stock 4 5/8 are like 4 1/2 plus (or 4 5/8 minus)from other companies.

I like its feel better than other grips, even with an overgrip I can tell the difference, however I would not mind putting a leather on my Xi or on Xi Team Plus, fairway, maybe later, because now the Xi 100 racquet is just perfect for me as it comes from manufacturer, a lot of power and spin, stability and touch, I have been cracking the ball at my 4.5 league matches, I only lost one in 5.

klementine79
04-23-2012, 12:42 PM
Y-ah-nex
or
Yo-nex

I say Y-ah-nex. Was looking into the 89... but the 97 is looking more and more attractive.

These two sticks have to fill the void left behind by rds001mid and rds002tour. Two great sticks that are missing from the current yonex line-up.

Automatix
04-23-2012, 12:45 PM
I wish the sticks would be released already...

Also keeping my fingers crossed that the rumour about the thin leather grip is true...

tistrapukcipeht
04-23-2012, 12:56 PM
Y-ah-nex
or
Yo-nex

I say Y-ah-nex. Was looking into the 89... but the 97 is looking more and more attractive.

These two sticks have to fill the void left behind by rds001mid and rds002tour. Two great sticks that are missing from the current yonex line-up.

whatever you call, i say YY racquets, i think you pronounce Yo... nex.

Just call the Japanese high quality racquets.

The other day I said when somebody asked me what kind of racquets I use: "I got some of those Japanese premium racquets".

Fed Kennedy
04-23-2012, 02:44 PM
You guys should really consider the 310 version. Yonex stock grip is thin, light and squishy. It sucks basically.

If you replace them with a leather grip, add in the strings, overgrip and dampener, you will easily hit 345g with the 310. Do that with a 330, you will get 365g, which will be unwieldy and gives little room to further tweak the balance.

This is good knowledge. The yonex stock grip is like made out of paper. Throw on a bab laether for a better experience.

Automatix
04-24-2012, 12:05 AM
Well if the specs - swingweight and flex (hope it will be low, though it doesn't seem to be the case) are up my alley I'm going to replace the grips with leather and possibly add a tiny bit of silicone in the handle - this stuff works wonders.

Chyeaah
04-24-2012, 10:36 PM
No. 1 concern. It will be too low powered for me D=. 97 SQ IN and thinnnn beam, probably lower flex from the 100S xD Just realised it was 330 Unstrung xD Definately getting a 310 now.

Meaghan
04-25-2012, 05:18 AM
I think its been said so I apologise in advance but Yonex have Stan now sporting the vct97 (in foto gallery and blurb).....they still havent changed his profile pic tho!

Spring Pools
04-25-2012, 12:41 PM
I am really excited about the 97 310 gram
Aesthetics remind me of the RDiS 100 (My current racquet)

Automatix
04-25-2012, 12:50 PM
I am really excited about the 97 310 gram
Aesthetics remind me of the RDiS 100 (My current racquet)
Both look great though I'd give a slight edge to the RDiS.

Can't wait till TW checks the flex and swingweight of the Tours...

XFactorer
04-25-2012, 07:30 PM
No. 1 concern. It will be too low powered for me D=. 97 SQ IN and thinnnn beam, probably lower flex from the 100S xD Just realised it was 330 Unstrung xD Definately getting a 310 now.

It's supposedly a firm racquet. At least according to the reviews from across the pond. It sounds like it'll be on par with the VCORE 100S.

Chyeaah
04-26-2012, 02:27 AM
It's supposedly a firm racquet. At least according to the reviews from across the pond. It sounds like it'll be on par with the VCORE 100S.

Let's hope that that 17mm beam will swing like a scalpel and give me 2x the spin =D

Automatix
04-26-2012, 02:38 AM
Let's hope that that 17mm beam... 19-20mm http://www.tenis.net.pl/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

Chyeaah
04-26-2012, 03:10 AM
19-20mm http://www.tenis.net.pl/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

I have been looking at the completely wrong racquet xD. Oh well, playtest before buying. If I move up a grade in tennis, I'll probably get a new racquet, time to playtest the Exo's Tours and Yonex's, maybe a new APD when it comes out (that's IF i move up a grade haha.)

un6a
04-30-2012, 12:45 AM
Specs of Vcore 97T (310g) are sweet. Anybody know rough SW ?

bruintennis
05-01-2012, 04:14 PM
May 21st is when they are supposed to be released in the USA. The Vcore 97T (330g unstrung) has a 63RA and the Vcore 89T (325g unstrung) has a 60RA.

XFactorer
05-01-2012, 04:15 PM
May 21st is when they are supposed to be released in the USA. The Vcore 97T (330g unstrung) has a 63RA and the Vcore 89T (325g unstrung) has a 60RA.

What about the 310g version of the 97T? What's that flex rating?

bruintennis
05-01-2012, 08:16 PM
What about the 310g version of the 97T? What's that flex rating?

Didn't ask about that one. Will try to get info.

Bartelby
05-01-2012, 08:30 PM
They're already on sale in Australia.

It says the 97/310 has a flex of 72 DA, whatever that is, and the 89 is 71.

counterpuncher
05-01-2012, 08:39 PM
It says the 97/310 has a flex of 72 DA, whatever that is, and the 89 is 71.

It'd be about 65 RA, given that they rate the VC 98D as 72 DA also. Interestingly they rate the VC 100s as 73 DA and the EZ Xi 98 as 72 DA, although TW lists them as 68 RA and 63 RA respectively

Chyeaah
05-01-2012, 11:56 PM
It'd be about 65 RA, given that they rate the VC 98D as 72 DA also. Interestingly they rate the VC 100s as 73 DA and the EZ Xi 98 as 72 DA, although TW lists them as 68 RA and 63 RA respectively

Don't the V-cores tend to be stiff at the throat.

Automatix
05-02-2012, 01:34 AM
Yes, the Vcore design stiffens the throat area.

eleventeenth street
05-02-2012, 10:07 AM
love the way the pj looks in these pics
http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/descpage-YVCT97D-EN.html

YesTennis
05-02-2012, 10:57 AM
love the way the pj looks in these pics
http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/descpage-YVCT97D-EN.html

In these photos, the head appears to look not so isometric and slightly more "oval" in appearance. Have they changed the head shape from the standard isometric ?

Meaghan
05-02-2012, 11:13 AM
love the way the pj looks in these pics
http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/descpage-YVCT97D-EN.html

40 for a demo, I may have to buy one........

dekko1
05-02-2012, 11:14 AM
In these photos, the head appears to look not so isometric and slightly more "oval" in appearance. Have they changed the head shape from the standard isometric ?

I had a hit with the 97 today.
As you wrote, it looks quite more "oval" than other Yonex rackets.
My racket of choice is the 95D, and I love it. I love it even more now that I did not really like the 97. The 97 feels that is missing something. It has good control, but did not offer much else. It did not feel very stable either, but I think adding lead would help. The 95D feels 100x better, offers a lot more spin, more power and more arm friendly.
I'll write more when I get a bit more time, but I was disappointed with the 97. The 89 on the other hand I was pleasantly surprised with, it feels like a classic old style racket.

YesTennis
05-02-2012, 11:17 AM
I had a hit with the 97 today.
As you wrote, it looks quite more "oval" than other Yonex rackets.
My racket of choice is the 95D, and I love it. I love it even more now that I did not really like the 97. The 97 feels that is missing something. It has good control, but did not offer much else. It did not feel very stable either, but I think adding lead would help. The 95D feels 100x better, offers a lot more spin, more power and more arm friendly.
I'll write more when I get a bit more time, but I was disappointed with the 97. The 89 on the other hand I was pleasantly surprised with, it feels like a classic old style racket.

Dekko1- I'm not enough of a "player" for the 95. Just wondering if you or anyone else could compare the VCore 98 to the new 97. Thanks in advance

Fed Kennedy
05-02-2012, 11:20 AM
I had a hit with the 97 today.
As you wrote, it looks quite more "oval" than other Yonex rackets.
My racket of choice is the 95D, and I love it. I love it even more now that I did not really like the 97. The 97 feels that is missing something. It has good control, but did not offer much else. It did not feel very stable either, but I think adding lead would help. The 95D feels 100x better, offers a lot more spin, more power and more arm friendly.
I'll write more when I get a bit more time, but I was disappointed with the 97. The 89 on the other hand I was pleasantly surprised with, it feels like a classic old style racket.

Dekko did you hit with the 310 or 330 gram version?

Meaghan
05-02-2012, 11:23 AM
here's the 89" demo....again 40 notes man :)
http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/descpage-YVCT89D-EN.html

Dekko1 thats good to hear, the 95 is a beaut of a bat.

Fed Kennedy
05-02-2012, 11:28 AM
here's the 89" demo....again 40 notes man :)
http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/descpage-YVCT89D-EN.html

Dekko1 thats good to hear, the 95 is a beaut of a bat.

You can buy it for 40???

Meaghan
05-02-2012, 11:32 AM
You can buy it for 40???

50 euros=40.....for a demo 97 or 89 thats what it says on the link.

Fed Kennedy
05-02-2012, 11:34 AM
50 euros=40.....for a demo 97 or 89 thats what it says on the link.

That is insane...its not even out yet...meaghan your mission is clear...

Meaghan
05-02-2012, 11:36 AM
That is insane...its not even out yet...meaghan your mission is clear...

place some money in my paypal account please sir :wink:

Fed Kennedy
05-02-2012, 11:39 AM
I have a hunch vc89 and 97 cannot top ps85 and vc95d but I will keep an open mind.

Meaghan
05-02-2012, 11:42 AM
I have a hunch vc89 and 97 cannot top ps85 and vc95d but I will keep an open mind.

Im in agreement....they should of made the 93" instead of the 89" then we might be onto something...

808
05-02-2012, 12:04 PM
50 is TWE's standard deposit for demo racquets and will be refunded once the racquet is returned. You only pay shipping.

Fun tip: open both the 97 and 89 pages in separate tabs and switch between them. Notice the difference?

Fed Kennedy
05-02-2012, 12:23 PM
50 is TWE's standard deposit for demo racquets and will be refunded once the racquet is returned. You only pay shipping.

Fun tip: open both the 97 and 89 pages in separate tabs and switch between them. Notice the difference?

What is it? I am too dense

Meaghan
05-02-2012, 12:24 PM
50 is TWE's standard deposit for demo racquets and will be refunded once the racquet is returned. You only pay shipping.

Fun tip: open both the 97 and 89 pages in separate tabs and switch between them. Notice the difference?

ahhh I see.... I was thinking this was for a used demo f/s....doh !!!

eleventeenth street
05-02-2012, 12:25 PM
What is it? I am too dense

they're the same sticks, no difference in head size. the only difference appears to be the "89" and "97" decals

808
05-02-2012, 12:33 PM
they're the same sticks, no difference in head size. the only difference appears to be the "89" and "97" decals

Yeah, it's the same photo, just the decals have been photoshopped. The 89 has two additional grommets on the left side though, lol.

zumzool
05-02-2012, 01:05 PM
I had a hit with the 97 today.
As you wrote, it looks quite more "oval" than other Yonex rackets.
My racket of choice is the 95D, and I love it. I love it even more now that I did not really like the 97. The 97 feels that is missing something. It has good control, but did not offer much else. It did not feel very stable either, but I think adding lead would help. The 95D feels 100x better, offers a lot more spin, more power and more arm friendly.
I'll write more when I get a bit more time, but I was disappointed with the 97. The 89 on the other hand I was pleasantly surprised with, it feels like a classic old style racket.

Can you comment on your playing style? do you have a more modern game or classic strokes.... while I liked the 95D, the smaller head size didn't help my more modern playing style.

dekko1
05-02-2012, 01:43 PM
Dekko1- I'm not enough of a "player" for the 95. Just wondering if you or anyone else could compare the VCore 98 to the new 97. Thanks in advance

The 98 is will give u lots more power than the Tour. As I wrote for the 95, u'll also get lots more spin with the 98. The 98 feels that it has a much bigger sweet spot and more stable than the 97. On the other hand, the 97 is faster through the air, and u get better feel. maybe with a good string setup and some lead could become a good racket.
I tried the heavier version; note that my 95s are about 375gms.

If u are not enough of a "player" for the 95, I'd definitely choose the 98. Just because it's new, it doesn't mean it's better. They are very different rackets, I suggest u try them to see which suits your game.

dekko1
05-02-2012, 01:52 PM
Can you comment on your playing style? do you have a more modern game or classic strokes.... while I liked the 95D, the smaller head size didn't help my more modern playing style.

I have an in between classic to modern style. One handed backhand, lots of spin, but I love the net, and i have a heavy slice. I played D1 tennis as well as futures and satellites.
For about 6 years I played with Pro Staff Original, so I have no problem hitting with a 95. I think that 3sq inches won't make much difference on your game, u can get used to the 95 pretty quickly if u are used to a 98.

YesTennis
05-02-2012, 02:15 PM
The 98 is will give u lots more power than the Tour. As I wrote for the 95, u'll also get lots more spin with the 98. The 98 feels that it has a much bigger sweet spot and more stable than the 97. On the other hand, the 97 is faster through the air, and u get better feel. maybe with a good string setup and some lead could become a good racket.
I tried the heavier version; note that my 95s are about 375gms.

If u are not enough of a "player" for the 95, I'd definitely choose the 98. Just because it's new, it doesn't mean it's better. They are very different rackets, I suggest u try them to see which suits your game.

dekko1- Your imprssions/assessment are much appreciated!

eidolonshinobi
05-02-2012, 07:51 PM
Looks like Yonex USA finally has the racquets up on their site. Confirmed

http://www.yonex.com/tennis/vcore/product/

klementine79
05-03-2012, 08:42 AM
When are the Vcore tours up for pre-sale?
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z359/klementine79/brokenVcore.jpg
Players everywhere are breaking the old ones in anticipation of a warranty swap for the new ones.

Uvijek Argen
05-04-2012, 05:01 AM
Good review from those rackets here, but is in Japanese. http://youtu.be/bbLHaf4ouAo?t=1m46s
I like how the guy hit.

Also stringing world did already their review.

Meaghan
05-04-2012, 07:10 AM
Good review from those rackets here, but is in Japanese. http://youtu.be/bbLHaf4ouAo?t=1m46s
I like how the guy hit.

Also stringing world did already their review.

great vid....really liked the girl who kept popping in shot :)

Only watched half but he looked more comfortable with the 89"

nyc
05-04-2012, 09:48 AM
great vid....Only watched half but he looked more comfortable with the 89"

Dunno...looks like he was most comfortable in the rally at 4:09 onwards, which I think was the 97..?

julian
05-05-2012, 01:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EkXviC_1zs
http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.co...VCT89D-EN.html
A bit of description from non-TW source
Yonex VCore Tour 97


NEW Flagship Tour Series from Yonex.


The VCore Tour 97 is the latest racquet of hugely popular VCore Family from Yonex.

Featuring Micro Core in the frame to provide a more solid feeling frame, this is one of the most exciting frames to be released in 2012. This racquet is designed to offer the all round player a solid feeling racquet that allows penetrating shots consistantly, with easy spin and power. Ideally suited to the more advanced player looking for a great control racquet.


Head Size: 97 sq inch / 626cm2

String Pattern: 16 mains 20 crosses

Unstrung Weight: 310g

Balance: 31cm

Recommended string: Yonex Poly Tour HS 125

Meaghan
05-05-2012, 01:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EkXviC_1zs
http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.co...VCT89D-EN.html
A bit of description from non-TW source
Yonex VCore Tour 97


NEW Flagship Tour Series from Yonex.


The VCore Tour 97 is the latest racquet of hugely popular VCore Family from Yonex.

Featuring Micro Core in the frame to provide a more solid feeling frame, this is one of the most exciting frames to be released in 2012. This racquet is designed to offer the all round player a solid feeling racquet that allows penetrating shots consistantly, with easy spin and power. Ideally suited to the more advanced player looking for a great control racquet.


Head Size: 97 sq inch / 626cm2

String Pattern: 16 mains 20 crosses

Unstrung Weight: 310g

Balance: 31cm

Recommended string: Yonex Poly Tour HS 125

Don't know where you have been but we've been discussing this from the first page.........try reading the thread first please.........

chaddles
05-05-2012, 01:32 PM
Got myself one of these (the 97) and have to say I'm really impressed with my first few hits. Love the feel of the VCores, and the 97 Tour 310 has a beautiful feel to it - the head shape is more rounded and wider than the other VCores which I like.

Not sure if I'll switch yet but its a beautiful feeling thin beamed stick.

lwto
05-05-2012, 08:33 PM
My distributor stopped by today and dropped both off.. THey have a wonderful feel and I'[m very excited to string these pups up to hit with.. Should I post pics?

Fed Kennedy
05-05-2012, 08:34 PM
My distributor stopped by today and dropped both off.. THey have a wonderful feel and I'[m very excited to string these pups up to hit with.. Should I post pics?

Post em up

Ashanti
05-06-2012, 08:27 AM
My distributor stopped by today and dropped both off.. THey have a wonderful feel and I'[m very excited to string these pups up to hit with.. Should I post pics?

yes please do

banter
05-06-2012, 07:35 PM
I got to hit with the Tour 97 and it's wonderful. I don't have experience with the vCore line, but I had the rdis 100 MP. The Tour 97 in comparison is money and offers a smoother feel for the rdis 100 MP gave me rough feedback especially from off centered hits.
The Tour is a light 11.6 oz.

lwto
05-06-2012, 07:36 PM
yes please do

Will do tomorrow, when I get back into the shop..

Fed Kennedy
05-06-2012, 07:42 PM
I got to hit with the Tour 97 and it's wonderful. I don't have experience with the vCore line, but I had the rdis 100 MP. The Tour 97 in comparison is money and offers a smoother feel for the rdis 100 MP gave me rough feedback especially from off centered hits.
The Tour is a light 11.6 oz.

Did you play 330 grams version or 310?

counterpuncher
05-06-2012, 07:47 PM
Did you play 330 grams version or 310?
At 11.6 oz strung (328g), that would have to be the 310g.

Bartelby
05-06-2012, 08:45 PM
On the Yonex technology page above they claim a 7% bigger sweetspot for this Yonex or do you think that's for all Yonexes?

banter
05-07-2012, 05:36 AM
On the Yonex technology page above they claim a 7% bigger sweetspot for this Yonex or do you think that's for all Yonexes?

I can see some truth to it. The racquet felt more forgiving and solid in comparison to my recollections of the rdis 100 mp and rds 003. I find this to be exceptionally true from hits at 12 o'clock as the rdis and rds would give snap at me with a viscous vibration.

On a side note the Tour's isometic-ness is less exaggerated it seemed, as if it was rounder than other yonex sticks- maybe this is a vCore thing.

mario.af
05-07-2012, 06:52 AM
On a side note the Tour's isometic-ness is less exaggerated it seemed, as if it was rounder than other yonex sticks- maybe this is a vCore thing.

I guess that's right, Vcores don't seem as square as other Yonex racquets (Previous Ezone, RQS, RDS, etc.)

Automatix
05-07-2012, 06:54 AM
Well the testers are out. The 97 Tour strung high with Yonex Poly Tour gives some really nice spin.

Bartelby
05-07-2012, 07:33 AM
Yes, they mention the sweetspot iextends more toward the tip of the racquet, which is what the micro core does more than the isometric by itself.



I can see some truth to it. The racquet felt more forgiving and solid in comparison to my recollections of the rdis 100 mp and rds 003. I find this to be exceptionally true from hits at 12 o'clock as the rdis and rds would give snap at me with a viscous vibration.

On a side note the Tour's isometic-ness is less exaggerated it seemed, as if it was rounder than other yonex sticks- maybe this is a vCore thing.

lwto
05-07-2012, 06:45 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t192/LiLBrahma/CIMG1455.jpg

this is a test..

lwto
05-07-2012, 06:47 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t192/LiLBrahma/CIMG1453.jpg

lwto
05-07-2012, 06:48 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t192/LiLBrahma/CIMG1452.jpg

lwto
05-07-2012, 06:49 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t192/LiLBrahma/CIMG1459.jpg

lwto
05-07-2012, 06:50 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t192/LiLBrahma/CIMG1461.jpg

Fed Kennedy
05-07-2012, 07:47 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/07/article-1191411-054002AC000005DC-961_468x490.jpg

JGads
05-07-2012, 08:13 PM
really digging that paintjob.

scotus
05-07-2012, 08:23 PM
On the Yonex technology page above they claim a 7% bigger sweetspot for this Yonex or do you think that's for all Yonexes?

7% bigger than what? Their previous-year model?

If their claims were true every year, their sweet spot would by now be much larger than the head size of the racquet.

Bartelby
05-07-2012, 08:36 PM
No, it refers to a normal beam.

The only specific claim about the new racquet is that the micro core at the top of the frame extends the sweetspot upward.

I really like the more rounded sides of the new beam.

syke
05-07-2012, 10:02 PM
looks more rounded than the "older" Vcores.

lwto
05-07-2012, 10:27 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t192/LiLBrahma/CIMG1458.jpg

lwto
05-07-2012, 10:28 PM
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t192/LiLBrahma/CIMG1454.jpg

Fed Kennedy
05-07-2012, 10:45 PM
Did you hit them yet? Hows the 89?

lwto
05-07-2012, 11:08 PM
Did you hit them yet? Hows the 89?

No.. I'm very tempted to..
I'm not sure if I should sell them
Use them as demo's
or what.
So there they are.. sitting all pretty.

But I tell you what, with the slighter frame, they feel very good.
You know the weight with the narrower beam has a certain solid good feel, unlike some narrow beam raquets that just feel flimsy.
They just cut through the aire.. they are like a well weighted katana..

drumnman2
05-08-2012, 04:41 AM
They are on the TWE site, due in on the 15th. No specs yet tho.

chaddles
05-08-2012, 06:44 AM
Ha my first hit tonight with the VCT97 310 strung with Poly Tour HS @ 52. Played 3 sets of doubles with it & from the first warm up it was fantastic.

One thing I've noticed about all the VCores is the way the racquets rewards you for full swings. When I got on the gas with the 97 it just seemed to drop like a rock inside the line all the time - forehands were silky smooth, but I did have a little trouble dialing in my 1HBH top spin shot.

As expected it was so solid at the net, and really returned a lot of interest on the ball so it was easy to push really deep and controlled volleys. The balance made it really easy to get the head into position & also it handled hard balls quite comfortably.

Serving was a peach, I really only served 3/4 kickers and it was so accurate, comfortable, and easy to generate nice easy kickers with great precision. I didn't try any flat serves, but I could tell i wouldn't get the same grunt as I do with the X10 325.

I'm going to ride this stick a bit more over the next few weeks, but I could quite easily switch to the VCT97 and be a very happy chappy. This is one of the best pick up & play racquets I've hit with for a while, and is really beautiful all round stick and a fabulous addition to the VCore family. Very tempte to get on the 89 for a test drive now.

Torres
05-08-2012, 06:55 AM
7% bigger than what? Their previous-year model?

If their claims were true every year, their sweet spot would by now be much larger than the head size of the racquet.

looks more rounded than the "older" Vcores.

Based on the review at SW they say that they've only reduced the length of the hoop, and only marginally the width, so it plays much bigger than the '89' would indicate.

I've no personal experience but the guys at SW do generally know their racquets.

Bartelby
05-08-2012, 06:58 AM
I always thought Yonex had to have narrow sides due to the isometric, but they now seem not to be so constrained.

Torres
05-08-2012, 07:04 AM
50 euros=40.....for a demo 97 or 89 thats what it says on the link.

That is insane...its not even out yet...meaghan your mission is clear...

Isn't that the 'hire' price, rather than the 'buy the demo now' price?

Meaghan
05-08-2012, 07:10 AM
Isn't that the 'hire' price, rather than the 'buy the demo now' price?

Yeah if you'd managed to read a couple more posts then you would have seen me coming to terms with my lack of brain cells

Snaab
05-08-2012, 07:26 AM
SO, when does TW get them?

XFactorer
05-08-2012, 12:37 PM
SO, when does TW get them?

TW said early June is when they'll have them for sale.

XFactorer
05-08-2012, 04:29 PM
Yonex Facebook feed says:

Head over to our Flickr page to see new images of YONEX Tennis star Stanislas Wawrinka with his new VCORE Tour racquet, which will be available at your local retailers starting May 21, 2012. Stay tuned for more details! #SpinItWinIt

lwto
05-08-2012, 05:13 PM
Yonex Facebook feed says:

Head over to our Flickr page to see new images of YONEX Tennis star Stanislas Wawrinka with his new VCORE Tour racquet, which will be available at your local retailers starting May 21, 2012. Stay tuned for more details! #SpinItWinIt

Yonex is not known for their timely delivery.

julian
05-08-2012, 05:21 PM
SO, when does TW get them?
Do you ask about demoes or rackets for sale?
Do you ask about TW or TW Europe? I assume the latter

klementine79
05-09-2012, 02:57 AM
They are up for pre-sale somewhere else and state the racquets are due in by May 21st.

Some specs from that particular retailer:
VcoreTour89:12.1oz strung, 311 swingweight, 7pts.HL, 16x20. No flex rating.
VcoreTour97:12.3oz strung, 306 swingweight, 7pts.HL, 16x18. No flex rating.

We'll see if these numbers hold-up. I thought the 97 was 16x20?

chaddles
05-09-2012, 03:04 AM
They are up for pre-sale somewhere else and state the racquets are due in by May 21st.

Some specs from that particular retailer:
VcoreTour89:12.1oz strung, 311 swingweight, 7pts.HL, 16x20. No flex rating.
VcoreTour97:12.3oz strung, 306 swingweight, 7pts.HL, 16x18. No flex rating.

We'll see if these numbers hold-up. I thought the 97 was 16x20?

The 97 310g is definitely a 16x20, and I'm pretty sure the 330 is the same string pattern.

klementine79
05-09-2012, 03:11 AM
^Those numbers have to be wrong, not everybody tests the frames like TW. The 97 310 wasn't even available on this website.

But if those swingweights are on spec, I expect some stiff frames, 65-68.

We won't know the true specs until TW gets their hands on some frames.

julian
05-09-2012, 06:18 AM
^Those numbers have to be wrong, not everybody tests the frames like TW. The 97 310 wasn't even available on this website.

But if those swingweights are on spec, I expect some stiff frames, 65-68.

We won't know the true specs until TW gets their hands on some frames.
See below
97 is on demo at TW Europe
---->
Hi julian,

we will measure them asap. Should be done by tomorrow.
Stefan/TWE
__________________

retlod
05-09-2012, 06:38 AM
^^^

LOL @ that pic of Roger after he saw those frames for sale. Good one, FK. :)

XFactorer
05-09-2012, 03:36 PM
Yonex is not known for their timely delivery.

It might be just the date that people can "pre-order" the racquet. TW says they'll have pre-orders and then sales by June. So, maybe in a few days TW will post the pre-order page with a release date.

eleventeenth street
05-09-2012, 05:31 PM
another retailer has these specs for the 97(330g) and 89 respectively.

97
11.6 unstrung, 12.2 strung
8 pts headlight
16/20
64 stiffness
SW 322

89
11.5 unstrung, 12.1 strung
8 pts headlight
61 stiffness
16/20
SW 327

XFactorer
05-09-2012, 11:09 PM
another retailer has these specs for the 97(330g) and 89 respectively.

97
11.6 unstrung, 12.2 strung
8 pts headlight
16/20
64 stiffness
SW 322

89
11.5 unstrung, 12.1 strung
8 pts headlight
61 stiffness
16/20
SW 327

Ordered the demos! Now I gotta wait the horrible 15 days until I get the demo to determine if I want to spend more money to get the real deal. Yay! 61 flex rating is nice on the 89, but 95 is my lower limit. :-/

Bartelby
05-09-2012, 11:14 PM
It seems that it will feel stiffer than the advertised rating, if the first video review is accurate.

eidolonshinobi
05-10-2012, 12:14 AM
another retailer has these specs for the 97(330g) and 89 respectively.

97
11.6 unstrung, 12.2 strung
8 pts headlight
16/20
64 stiffness
SW 322

89
11.5 unstrung, 12.1 strung
8 pts headlight
61 stiffness
16/20
SW 327

A thousand times YES

Chyeaah
05-10-2012, 01:42 AM
another retailer has these specs for the 97(330g) and 89 respectively.

97
11.6 unstrung, 12.2 strung
8 pts headlight
16/20
64 stiffness
SW 322

89
11.5 unstrung, 12.1 strung
8 pts headlight
61 stiffness
16/20
SW 327

NOO. NO. 12.2 strung... What is the lighter one strung?

chaddles
05-10-2012, 02:12 AM
NOO. NO. 12.2 strung... What is the lighter one strung?

About 11.6 strung.

Meaghan
05-10-2012, 02:21 AM
another retailer has these specs for the 97(330g) and 89 respectively.

97
11.6 unstrung, 12.2 strung
8 pts headlight
16/20
64 stiffness
SW 322

89
11.5 unstrung, 12.1 strung
8 pts headlight
61 stiffness
16/20
SW 327

Will have too have a look at the 89, great spec just wish it was a 93"

Dave M
05-10-2012, 02:53 AM
Will have too have a look at the 89, great spec just wish it was a 93"

I know what you mean but i always felt the 90 yonex was as forgiving as if it was a 93 or 95, maybe the 89 will be more like a 90 or 93? Hopefully......

Meaghan
05-10-2012, 05:26 AM
I know what you mean but i always felt the 90 yonex was as forgiving as if it was a 93 or 95, maybe the 89 will be more like a 90 or 93? Hopefully......

Was the pim pim a 93 or 90 dave?

Geology_Rocks!
05-10-2012, 09:51 AM
61 on the 89 and 64 on the 97... The guys on the video said they were stiff, no? Anyways, I like me frames lower then 64.

Fed Kennedy
05-10-2012, 01:09 PM
Cant decide which one I want more...:)

Meaghan
05-10-2012, 01:12 PM
Cant decide which one I want more...:)

I'm going with the 89 as I found all their mids feel like 95 anyway. My old 90 is only a tiny bit smaller than my vc95.

Geology_Rocks!
05-10-2012, 01:42 PM
If I had enough game I'd get the 89.

TW Staff
05-10-2012, 03:01 PM
The Yonex VCORE Tour 89 and 97 are now available for pre-sale at Tennis Warehouse!

Check them out below!

Yonex VCORE Tour 89:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Yone...EX-YVCT89.html (http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Yonex_VCORE_Tour_89/descpageRCYONEX-YVCT89.html)

Yonex VCORE Tour 97:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Yone...EX-YVCT97.html (http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Yonex_VCORE_Tour_97/descpageRCYONEX-YVCT97.html)

Brittany, TW