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Nathaniel_Near
03-04-2012, 04:19 AM
http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/sport-comment/federer-reminds-dubai-of-his-brilliance

''You really need to watch this kid Federer from Switzerland. Not to get carried away here, but he looks like he could have a bright future and a nice career.

As he won the Dubai Duty Free Tennis Championships on Saturday night, he gave an excellent impression of spryness. He reminded 5,000 enthusiastic viewers that much like 50 is not what it used to be and 40 is not what it used to be, 30 is not what it used to be.

Neither is 31, which he will reach in August, in a summer crammed with Roland Garros and Wimbledon and Flushing Meadow and also Olympics, a heavy span during which, yet again, Roger Federer will figure eminently.

After all, even in 2011 during his first grand slam title-less year since 2002, the Meryl Streep of men's tennis lurked a few points here and there from possible French Open and US Open rebirths.

He might have gone eight majors since a major title, but a little bit of confidence, and a shot here and there, and ...

Now he wins Dubai again, five years after winning it the previous time. He hears people chanting his name. He gets goose bumps.

It was big love at the Aviation Club, but it also might have had pertinence.

Since his US Open nightmare from two match points up against Novak Djokovic last September in their semi-final clash, he has won Basel, Paris, London, Rotterdam and Dubai, and lost an Australian Open semi-final to Rafael Nadal, whom he cannot seem to beat in a grand slam.

Now, four of those wins happened indoors, in controlled climates, because nobody has mounted a successful campaign to move Rotterdam outdoors in February just for entertainment value.

You do have to analyse surfaces, as beaten finalist Andy Murray did on Saturday night.

"I think that the indoor season and the surfaces like this one" – read: fast – "I mean, if there were more tournaments on these courts, I think he could definitely be number one in the world for the next few years. It really suits his game well.

"Just so many of the courts are so slow now. You know, it's nice for us to get a change-up like here.

"Some of the tournaments are so slow it's tough against so many guys that are moving well and serving big. You know, it's become tougher and tougher to stay at the top of the game longer, I think."

True, there's a lot of wrestling out there on tour on the slow courts, and wrestling can be grinding.

Still, there came a sterling moment on Friday night in the second semi-final, the one between Federer and Juan Martín del Potro, the one Federer won 7-6, 7-6.

Just about banged out of the second-set tiebreaker at 6-2 down and facing four set points, it looked as if Federer decided to dig in and bang back. He did get to 6-all.

That next point might turn out unforgettable, although you'll have to ask 10 years from now. For a 29-shot rally, this 30 year old stood in with a 23 year old for a whole bunch of searing magnificence.

From corner to corner and baseline to baseline they went, Del Potro producing about five shots that seemed ample bids for the point, Federer replying until Del Potro did err.

While it did not look like Federer of 2004 or 2005 - will anything, ever? - it did look like it had that added notch of confidence.

So he said, "I'm defending much better than maybe I was in the middle of last year, where I felt like I couldn't come out of the tough defensive positions anymore."

And he said, "Eight of the top 10 players were here. I didn't drop a set." And he said the whole thing "gives me hope that I can carry it over to Indian Wells and Miami," the next two large tournaments on the calendar.

He spoke of his tennis-historic win over Pete Sampras in the fourth round at Wimbledon in 2001, when he served-and-volleyed almost constantly. Then he took the "big, big step into the very top of the rankings, I would say, to actually improve my baseline game," which helped him contend with people such as Andre Agassi, David Nalbandian, Juan Carlos Ferrero.

Now, all this time later, in a tournament that included Djokovic, you could see Federer not only grinding in against Del Potro, but crowding the net against Murray as the bolder player in the final.

That kind of thing could run off with your imagination, make you wonder about future adjustments and future crescendos, make you want to continue watching this kid Federer.

Luckily, it always was a pleasure anyway.''


It does look to me that Roger is defending a little better than he did throughout most of 2010 and 2011.

Magnus
03-04-2012, 04:37 AM
Nah, the slow courts of IW and Miami will come and Fed will low again like he did in 08, 09, 2010 and 2011 with a horde of unfoced errors.

Love all
03-04-2012, 04:43 AM
Why can't tennis authorities balance such things. 3 of the 4 Grand Slams are on slow surfaces now while it used to be the opposite a few years ago. Definitely, this trend has prevented Federer from achieving a lot. He is the one who is the biggest victim of this policy. Very bad for his legacy and status forever.

Love all
03-04-2012, 04:48 AM
Federer is defending much better for last 6 month or so but its not enough to oultlast likes of Djokovic and Nadal in the bigger rallies on slower surfaces. Rest of the players he can handle easily.

Rozroz
03-04-2012, 04:57 AM
slow court = Fed fail
http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/fail.gif

BULLZ1LLA2.0
03-04-2012, 05:02 AM
Federer is defending much better for last 6 month or so but its not enough to oultlast likes of Djokovic and Nadal in the bigger rallies on slower surfaces. Rest of the players he can handle easily.

Federer definitely did enough to beat Djokovic at the US Open last year. That matchup is a toss of the coin. And Roland Garros, Federer is favorite vs Djokovic. And now Federer is playing better than 2011. Probably can't beat Nadal, but definitely can beat everyone else.

Paul Murphy
03-04-2012, 05:06 AM
Why can't tennis authorities balance such things. 3 of the 4 Grand Slams are on slow surfaces now while it used to be the opposite a few years ago. Definitely, this trend has prevented Federer from achieving a lot. He is the one who is the biggest victim of this policy. Very bad for his legacy and status forever.

The USO isn't as fast as it was either. Shame.
It's been great watching some fast court tennis for a change.

SLD76
03-04-2012, 05:55 AM
The USO isn't as fast as it was either. Shame.
It's been great watching some fast court tennis for a change.

right? Watching Llodra actually trouble Fed with his S&V game.
WAtching Fed himself have success with S&V...good times.

even saw a few random chip and charges...good to see.

variety. who knew?

sunny_cali
03-04-2012, 06:02 AM
Good article !

I agree that Fed is defending better than last year. However, given the surfaces it may just not be enough :-( I hope to be proven wrong, but these last few weeks may be just the small sliver of silver lining. Come the slower courts starting with IW next week, and it is more than likely that the usual suspects will be pounding up on the rest. I hope to see Delpo/Murray do better than the last year and avoid the nauseating tedium of another Djokodal final -- its unlikely Fed is going to better his SF showing in any of the next few MS'. Oh well, we can always watch re-runs of Dubai/WTF :-(

BULLZ1LLA2.0
03-04-2012, 06:19 AM
Good article !

I agree that Fed is defending better than last year. However, given the surfaces it may just not be enough :-( I hope to be proven wrong, but these last few weeks may be just the small sliver of silver lining. Come the slower courts starting with IW next week, and it is more than likely that the usual suspects will be pounding up on the rest. I hope to see Delpo/Murray do better than the last year and avoid the nauseating tedium of another Djokodal final -- its unlikely Fed is going to better his SF showing in any of the next few MS'. Oh well, we can always watch re-runs of Dubai/WTF :-(

Don't worry. Federer is playing better now than he was in 2010/2011. While Djokovic appears to have slipped from his 2011 level (which wasn't good enough to beat Federer at Roland Garros anyway, and almost wasn't good enough to beat Federer at the US Open).

celoft
03-04-2012, 06:45 AM
Federer definitely did enough to beat Djokovic at the US Open last year. That matchup is a toss of the coin. And Roland Garros, Federer is favorite vs Djokovic. And now Federer is playing better than 2011. Probably can't beat Nadal, but definitely can beat everyone else.

This.........................

sunny_cali
03-04-2012, 06:54 AM
Don't worry. Federer is playing better now than he was in 2010/2011. While Djokovic appears to have slipped from his 2011 level (which wasn't good enough to beat Federer at Roland Garros anyway, and almost wasn't good enough to beat Federer at the US Open).

Against Djoker he might win in Wimby/US open. I was referring more to the period between now and Wimby, where you'd have to favor Djoker over him. Fed played out of his skin in 2011 FO -- I am not so certain he can repeat it there. Might depend on the weather/balls that they use this time.

CocaCola
03-04-2012, 07:06 AM
Whats up with the theory that clay is now Rogers best surface since his movement is slower and he has more time to set up perfectly for his strokes? :lol:
I read it here many times since he's beaten Novak at RG and lost in another Wim QF.

DjokovicForTheWin
03-04-2012, 07:08 AM
"I think that the indoor season and the surfaces like this one" – read: fast – "I mean, if there were more tournaments on these courts, I think he could definitely be number one in the world for the next few years. It really suits his game well.

"Just so many of the courts are so slow now. You know, it's nice for us to get a change-up like here.



Looks like Murray disagrees with this wise TW poster. What's Murray thinking???? :)


You have no evidence Federer would dominate in fast court conditions at his current age, just speculation, conjecture and wishful thinking.

Homeboy Hotel
03-04-2012, 07:16 AM
Looks like Murray disagrees with this wise TW poster. What's Murray thinking???? :)

Off subject, but do you have an avatar or is it a broken photo?

SLD76
03-04-2012, 09:29 AM
Originally Posted by Nathaniel_Near
"I think that the indoor season and the surfaces like this one" – read: fast – "I mean, if there were more tournaments on these courts, I think he could definitely be number one in the world for the next few years. It really suits his game well.

"Just so many of the courts are so slow now. You know, it's nice for us to get a change-up like here.


Looks like Murray disagrees with this wise TW poster. What's Murray thinking????


Originally Posted by TTMR
You have no evidence Federer would dominate in fast court conditions at his current age, just speculation, conjecture and wishful thinking

pure pwnage :) lol

SLD76
03-04-2012, 09:32 AM
That said, I think Murray's chances at a slam would vastly improve as well with faster court surfaces.

He's beaten Fed and Djoker at Cincy. And even with a curiously sluggish Djoker, the faster than usual conditions at Dubai this year seemed to favor him immensely in their match.

Yes, it is a small sample size. And in both matches Djoker was not at his physical best...but it still seems as though Murray may have Djoker's number on faster surfaces.

Nathaniel_Near
03-04-2012, 09:36 AM
That said, I think Murray's chances at a slam would vastly improve as well with faster court surfaces.

He's beaten Fed and Djoker at Cincy. And even with a curiously sluggish Djoker, the faster than usual conditions at Dubai this year seemed to favor him immensely in their match.

Yes, it is a small sample size. And in both matches Djoker was not at his physical best...but it still seems as though Murray may have Djoker's number on faster surfaces.

Agree entirely. Federer, Murray AND Del Potro would benefit a lot from faster courts in my opinion, and it would inhibit Nadal's and El Nolio's games, somewhat.