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thienzsch
03-06-2012, 09:58 AM
What was the biggest jump in rankings in history?
Or what was the biggest climb down??

Homeboy Hotel
03-06-2012, 10:05 AM
Del Potro?

Hood_Man
03-06-2012, 10:25 AM
Goran Ivanisevic entered Wimbledon 2001 ranked #125, and a fortnight later left as the world #16.

Andres
03-06-2012, 10:48 AM
Steve Darcis entered Amersfoort 2007 ranked #297 and left ranked #150.

I can't remember who it was, but I remember there was one guy who reached the finals of a tournament in his first try. This was 4 or 5 years ago.

Moose, Mustard, do you guys remember?

Moose Malloy
03-06-2012, 10:55 AM
Or what was the biggest climb down??

maybe Carretero. He won '96 Hamburg as a qualifier. The next year he went from 84 to 334 when the points dropped off.

I can't remember who it was, but I remember there was one guy who reached the finals of a tournament in his first try.

maybe Isner? went from 416 to 193 after reaching final of DC in '07

Voltchkov went from 237 to 69 after reaching the semis of Wimbledon in '00

Moose Malloy
03-06-2012, 11:08 AM
Yahiya Doumbia of Senegal went from 453 to 125 after winning Lyon in 1988

In 1996, he went from 168 to 418 after his points from '95 Bordeaux dropped off.

jokinla
03-06-2012, 11:29 AM
It would depend on if we're talking pure numbers, because a jump from 1000 to 500 can be done without too much pressure, versus Ivanisevic's jump just a little over 100 spots is nearly impossible, and much more impressive.

Mustard
03-06-2012, 12:42 PM
Lleyton Hewitt won 1998 Adelaide at the age of 16 and is the lowest ranked player ever to win a title on the main tour, ranked at 550 in the world at the time. Hewitt winning that tournament saw his ranking jump up by exactly 350 places to number 200.

Agassi from 1994 to 1999 was a rollercoaster, going to the very top, down in the dumps, and back to the very top again.

vive le beau jeu !
03-06-2012, 12:43 PM
landing in the top 20, it's definitely goran 2001. :)
Yahiya Doumbia of Senegal went from 453 to 125 after winning Lyon in 1988

In 1996, he went from 168 to 418 after his points from '95 Bordeaux dropped off.
2 career titles... both won going out of the qualifications, 7 years apart !
i've always been puzzled by this guy... ;)

for the jumps, hewitt must be close to the top of the list... isn't he the guy who won an ATP tournament with the lowest ranking (adelaide 1998, ranked #550) ?
and what about forget and krajicek who played the QF at wimbledon (respectively in 1994 and 2002), being ranked outside the top 1000 ?

Mustard
03-06-2012, 12:53 PM
Guy Forget entered 1994 Wimbledon ranked at 1,130 in the world. Forget reached the quarter finals of the tournament, before losing to Ivanisevic, and Forget's ranking jumped 917 places to 213 in the world.

Leelord337
03-06-2012, 12:55 PM
I remember when andre golubev won that masters 1000 event out of nowhere, he was a kid.. ranking went from 82 to 36

Leelord337
03-06-2012, 12:59 PM
Guy Forget entered 1994 Wimbledon ranked at 1,130 in the world. Forget reached the quarter finals of the tournament, before losing to Ivanisevic, and Forget's ranking jumped 917 places to 213 in the world.

lol forget satellites and challengers to get to the 200s

vive le beau jeu !
03-06-2012, 12:59 PM
landing in the top 20, it's definitely goran 2001. :)

2 career titles... both won going out of the qualifications, 7 years apart !
i've always been puzzled by this guy... ;)

for the jumps, hewitt must be close to the top of the list... isn't he the guy who won an ATP tournament with the lowest ranking (adelaide 1998, ranked #550) ?
and what about forget and krajicek who played the QF at wimbledon (respectively in 1994 and 2002), being ranked outside the top 1000 ?

Guy Forget entered 1994 Wimbledon ranked at 1,130 in the world. Forget reached the quarter finals of the tournament, before losing to Ivanisevic, and Forget's ranking jumped 917 places to 213 in the world.
and for krajicek it's 1093-153 = 940 spots !
so... can we beat that ? ;)

Mustard
03-06-2012, 01:14 PM
and for krajicek it's 1093-153 = 940 spots !

Ah yes, at 2002 Wimbledon.

Mainad
03-06-2012, 01:29 PM
I remember when andre golubev won that masters 1000 event out of nowhere, he was a kid.. ranking went from 82 to 36

Golubev has never won a Masters 1000. He won 2010 Hamburg (beat Melzer in the final) but Hamburg was a 500 tournament by then (got demoted the previous year).

The only currently active players with Masters 1000 titles are:

Nadal 19, Federer 18, Djokovic 10, Murray 8, Roddick 5, Ferrero 4, Davydenko 3, Nalbandian 2, Hewitt 2, Tsonga 1, Berdych 1, Soderling 1, Ljubicic 1, Robredo 1, Haas 1.

Shaolin
03-06-2012, 01:45 PM
Anyone remember Alexander Popp, he made the qf or sf @ W about ten years ago. I had never heard of him before and haven't heard anything since.He must've had a crazy jump in ranking with that Wimbledon run.

mattennis
03-06-2012, 01:48 PM
Anyone remember Alexander Popp, he made the qf or sf @ W about ten years ago. I had never heard of him before and haven't heard anything since.He must've had a crazy jump in ranking with that Wimbledon run.

He made the QF two times IIRC, in 2000 and 2003.

Mustard
03-06-2012, 02:08 PM
He made the QF two times IIRC, in 2000 and 2003.

That is correct. Alexander Popp beat some veterans of tennis during his run to the quarter finals of 2000 Wimbledon, beating Ronald Agenor (despite being bagelled in the first set), Michael Chang (8-6 in the fifth set), Gustavo Kuerten (a straight sets demolition that put Kuerten off Wimbledon for life), and Marc Rosset (a 5-setter), before Popp lost to Patrick Rafter in the quarter finals. Popp's world ranking went up 40 places, from 114 to 74.

At 2003 Wimbledon, Popp beat Hicham Arazi, Raemon Sluiter, Jiri Novak and Olivier Rochus before blowing a 2 set lead in his quarter final against Mark Philippoussis. Popp's world ranking jumped 105 places from 198 to 93.

Shaolin
03-06-2012, 02:24 PM
^^thanks for the info on Popp guys. I had forgotten he had two big runs @ W.

Verkerk was another guy who must have had a huge jump with that random FO final.

Mainad
03-06-2012, 02:38 PM
That is correct. Alexander Popp beat some veterans of tennis during his run to the quarter finals of 2000 Wimbledon, beating Ronald Agenor (despite being bagelled in the first set), Michael Chang (8-6 in the fifth set), Gustavo Kuerten (a straight sets demolition that put Kuerten off Wimbledon for life), and Marc Rosset (a 5-setter), before Popp lost to Patrick Rafter in the quarter finals. Popp's world ranking went up 40 places, from 114 to 74.

At 2003 Wimbledon, Popp beat Hicham Arazi, Raemon Sluiter, Jiri Novak and Olivier Rochus before blowing a 2 set lead in his quarter final against Mark Philippoussis. Popp's world ranking jumped 105 places from 198 to 93.

I remember Popp. He seemed to be on the verge of breaking through on the tennis scene after those two Wimbledon runs. Was that the only place he made any impression? I don't recall hearing much about him after his 2003 run!

Timbo's hopeless slice
03-06-2012, 02:40 PM
What was Chris Lewis' ranking when he went to the Wimbledon final?

Mustard
03-06-2012, 02:46 PM
Verkerk was another guy who must have had a huge jump with that random FO final.

Martin Verkerk's world ranking jumped 31 places, from 46 to 15, after his run to the 2003 French Open final. Verkerk beat Zeljko Krajan, Luis Horna (Verkerk saving a match point against the man who beat Federer in the first round), Vincent Spadea and Rainer Schuettler. And then, most impressively, he beat Carlos Moya (8-6 in the fifth set), and Guillermo Coria (in straight sets), before being beaten in straight sets in the final against Juan Carlos Ferrero.

Moose Malloy
03-06-2012, 02:50 PM
What was Chris Lewis' ranking when he went to the Wimbledon final?

91

and what about forget and krajicek who played the QF at wimbledon (respectively in 1994 and 2002), being ranked outside the top 1000 ?

they were top 10 players coming back from injury, a bit different from others mentioned. They had injury protected rankings at those tournaments, so they didn't have to qualify.

Timbo's hopeless slice
03-06-2012, 02:53 PM
All I learned about Lewis from a quick search is that he was the first guy to make a major final playing with an OS racquet, a POG, in fact!

Oh, and he lost the US Open Junior final to that well known icon of american tennis, Howard Shoenfield

Mustard
03-06-2012, 02:59 PM
91

And 24 after the tournament, so a jump of 67 places.

they were top 10 players coming back from injury, a bit different from others mentioned. They had injury protected rankings at those tournaments, so they didn't have to qualify.

It's got to be Lleyton Hewitt after winning 1998 Adelaide then, going from 550 to 200.

Mustard
03-06-2012, 03:04 PM
I remember Popp. He seemed to be on the verge of breaking through on the tennis scene after those two Wimbledon runs. Was that the only place he made any impression? I don't recall hearing much about him after his 2003 run!

Popp never got past the R64 at the other majors (never won a match at the French Open) and all 6 of his titles were on the challenger circuit. Also, the world ranking of 74 that he obtained after his 2000 Wimbledon run to the quarter finals, was his career high ranking.

At 2004 Wimbledon, Popp lost to Roddick in the R16. At 2005 Wimbledon, Popp had a marathon win over Wayne Arthurs by 14-12 in the fifth set in the R64, and lost to Dmitry Tursunov in the R32.

Nathaniel_Near
03-06-2012, 03:41 PM
Popp never got past the R64 at the other majors (never won a match at the French Open) and all 6 of his titles were on the challenger circuit. Also, the world ranking of 74 that he obtained after his 2000 Wimbledon run to the quarter finals, was his career high ranking.

At 2004 Wimbledon, Popp lost to Roddick in the R16. At 2005 Wimbledon, Popp had a marathon win over Wayne Arthurs by 14-12 in the fifth set in the R64, and lost to Dmitry Tursunov in the R32.

Mustard, a serious question just for one moment; are you available in my local library? :D

Thanks!

PS, ever thought of starting up a website of comprehensive tales of tennis history? Nah, maybe it would be too much effort.

Shaolin
03-06-2012, 04:35 PM
Martin Verkerk's world ranking jumped 31 places, from 46 to 15, after his run to the 2003 French Open final. Verkerk beat Zeljko Krajan, Luis Horna (Verkerk saving a match point against the man who beat Federer in the first round), Vincent Spadea and Rainer Schuettler. And then, most impressively, he beat Carlos Moya (8-6 in the fifth set), and Guillermo Coria (in straight sets), before being beaten in straight sets in the final against Juan Carlos Ferrero.

Thanks Mustard, I was wondering about his ranking. I didn't even think Verkerk was top hundred at the time, was thinking maybe he got in as a LL in qualifying or something. You and Moose M have some impressive tennis knowledge. Would be fun to watch a match with you guys.

Migelowsky
03-06-2012, 07:05 PM
anyone knows Boris Beckerīs ranking when he won Wimbledon in 85 ? I just know he was unseeded

Mustard
03-06-2012, 07:12 PM
anyone knows Boris Beckerīs ranking when he won Wimbledon in 85 ? I just know he was unseeded

Boris Becker was world number 20 during 1985 Wimbledon. Winning the tournament moved him up to world number 8.

Migelowsky
03-06-2012, 07:37 PM
Thanks Mustard

MichaelNadal
03-06-2012, 07:39 PM
Mustard is a stat machine!! It's amazing, really amazing.