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Boricua
03-06-2012, 11:36 AM
Yonex has this reputation of building rackets with extreme quality. So how does Yonex compare with Babolat in this aspect?

I like Babolat but my impression is that Yonex has better quality. Anybody think different?

eleventeenth street
03-06-2012, 12:14 PM
i have rarely heard people talking about babolat racquets in terms of their quality (build quality or quality control) which isn't to say they are bad frames at all. i know a lot of people love them. but i do recall a lot of people complaining about cracking and loose/squeaky butt caps at one time. the impression that i get is that babolat seems to be about average in terms of overall quality.

yonex definitely tends to be more highly regarded in this area. i personally love the feel of yonex frames.

Boricua
03-06-2012, 12:22 PM
i have rarely heard people talking about babolat racquets in terms of their quality (build quality or quality control) which isn't to say they are bad frames at all. i know a lot of people love them. but i do recall a lot of people complaining about cracking and loose/squeaky butt caps at one time. the impression that i get is that babolat seems to be about average in terms of overall quality.

yonex definitely tends to be more highly regarded in this area. i personally love the feel of yonex frames.

Ive heard the same. I suppose they like how the Babolats frames play regardless of their quality.

Automatix
03-06-2012, 12:36 PM
Don't quote me on this but if I remember correctly a TT poster who strings racquets at tournaments mentioned something about Babolat QC going really bad.

Boricua
03-06-2012, 12:45 PM
i have rarely heard people talking about babolat racquets in terms of their quality (build quality or quality control) which isn't to say they are bad frames at all. i know a lot of people love them. but i do recall a lot of people complaining about cracking and loose/squeaky butt caps at one time. the impression that i get is that babolat seems to be about average in terms of overall quality.

yonex definitely tends to be more highly regarded in this area. i personally love the feel of yonex frames.

I wonder what other brand is highly regarded? I assume Fischer (Pacific).

Deuces Wild
03-06-2012, 01:41 PM
I wonder what other brand is highly regarded? I assume Fischer (Pacific).

I'd put Dunlop up there too.

acura9927
03-06-2012, 01:47 PM
Even the box that Yonex ships your racquet in is top notch. Its weighs doubles most tennis racquet boxes.

bluetrain4
03-06-2012, 01:56 PM
I think Yonex is high quality, but there's just nothing in their lineup that intrigues me right now.

eidolonshinobi
03-06-2012, 02:22 PM
put Volkl in that line up as well. I have 3 PB 10 mids, two I've purchased at different retailers, and 1 was a gift from the east coast. All three racquets weight exactly 12.1oz (343g) strung.

Fed Kennedy
03-06-2012, 03:56 PM
Bought two used vcore 95 from different ends of the country, weight and balance identical to the gram. Amazing.

heftylefty
03-06-2012, 06:00 PM
I have played with the Babolat PST and the Yonex RQiS Tour 1; and Yonex is a better made racquet.

heftylefty
03-06-2012, 06:01 PM
put Volkl in that line up as well. I have 3 PB 10 mids, two I've purchased at different retailers, and 1 was a gift from the east coast. All three racquets weight exactly 12.1oz (343g) strung.

Volkl are the most underrated sticks. But you have to have strokes to use them.

eidolonshinobi
03-06-2012, 10:43 PM
Volkl are the most underrated sticks. But you have to have strokes to use them.

They're trying to compete with the rest of the market with their new sticks, e.g the Organix 8, which is supposed to be similar to the pure drive

wilfreb
03-07-2012, 06:07 PM
i own 4 Dunlop 500 tour Bio and they are exactly the same weight, amazing...

quest01
03-07-2012, 06:45 PM
The quality of Babolat racquets are pretty accurate, I've bought a few apdc's and the specs of each of them are fairly close while Yonex are also good. I know Wilson isn't very good, probably the worst in quality control out of any racquets I've used.

zapvor
03-07-2012, 07:30 PM
specs aside, babolat frames tend to crack easily....if you look up warranty records you can easily see a ton being sent back to babolat for replacement.

Spring Pools
03-07-2012, 08:16 PM
In terms of quality control, you can't beat Yonex. Also, Yonex feel is quite unique. I love it.

ollinger
03-07-2012, 08:38 PM
Yonex is made by a Japanese company, Babolat by a French company. What else do you need to know?

Bartelby
03-07-2012, 09:14 PM
conformity to spec is one element of quality, maybe the most important, but still one would like the butt cap not to rattle and the paint not to chip and in that regard the winner is ... YONEX

KenC
03-07-2012, 10:53 PM
specs aside, babolat frames tend to crack easily....if you look up warranty records you can easily see a ton being sent back to babolat for replacement.

I think this might be because people buy into the hype and then when they don't magically seem to hit better they smash them on the ground. Nothing is more frustrating that spending 150 clams to play like Nadal and then lose as usual. SMASH!!!!

I have 8 Bab racquets and will say that QC could be better, especially on the reported weight of the frame. I have never had a frame crack but over time almost all of my racquets have at one time developed the squeeky buttcap syndrome. It's an easy fix, but it's still annoying.

classic tennis
03-08-2012, 03:59 AM
Yonex is made by a Japanese company, Babolat by a French company. What else do you need to know?


What you need to know is that Yonex is made by Yonex in their own factory in Japan, and that Babolat and pretty much everyone else are farmed out to multiple factories in China to build at a price, and then marketed.

They do not manufacture their own racquets.

McLovin
03-08-2012, 04:08 AM
I wonder what other brand is highly regarded? I assume Fischer (Pacific).

5 years ago I used the Fischer M-Comp 95. I had 6 of them, purchased from different stores and at different times, and all weighed exactly as specified (11.9oz, I believe).

Now I'm using the Pacific X-Force Pro, and again, all 3 of mine weight exactly as specified on the frame. Two were purchased together, one was purchased a month later from a different store.

All were weighed on a postal scale.

However...I have had repeated problems w/ their grommets. All of my M-Comp's grommets cracked during the 3 years I used the frames, and I've already replaced one on one of my X-Force Pros (they are only 6 months old).

By comparison, when I used the Pure Control 'Swirly' before the M-Comps, I never replaced a grommet.

sansaephanh
03-08-2012, 04:18 AM
Don't quote me on this but if I remember correctly a TT poster who strings racquets at tournaments mentioned something about Babolat QC going really bad.

Quoted. lol.

PED
03-08-2012, 04:31 AM
I've had six Babs over the last few years. They were all within 1 gram of spec. So far so good. However, I had to send back 2 of them of cracks....not so good.

I baby my sticks and have never had an issue with another maker. The Babs do play nice but the QC is up to the usual standards.

AC Tennis
03-08-2012, 10:38 AM
Interesting. I've played with Yonex rackets for going on 10 years now, with brief foreys with other brands, but I've never had any issues with the Yonex frames. They have all been spot on with specks and none have ever cracked, or had the butt cap come off or get lose. In fact the only issue I've ever had was the RDS 001 (bright yellow) paint tended to chip more than their other frames. And my current VCore 98s are doing great!

Limpinhitter
03-08-2012, 10:45 AM
I'd put Dunlop up there too.

Just don't put anything on your Dunlops that might pull off the paint job, LIKE LED TAPE!

eidolonshinobi
03-08-2012, 11:23 AM
What you need to know is that Yonex is made by Yonex in their own factory in Japan, and that Babolat and pretty much everyone else are farmed out to multiple factories in China to build at a price, and then marketed.

They do not manufacture their own racquets.

But what does that say about Volkl and Pacific racquets? Aren't both of their manufacturing companies based in China as well?

tenapasi
03-08-2012, 08:35 PM
I have 4 rdis 100.
I feel all of them play the same.
I can pick any of the stick from my bag and not to worry about the stick characteristic.

I love the "honest" feeling of yonex frame.
Like, somehow, from the feedback i get from the frame, i can feel where the ball is gonna land.

It's sensitive with string alright.
A soft feeling string strung at low 50lbs works best for me.

Chopin
03-08-2012, 09:22 PM
Yonex is made by a Japanese company, Babolat by a French company. What else do you need to know?

Babolat=Made in China

Yonex=Made in Japan

Enough said.

Bartelby
03-08-2012, 09:33 PM
I think its fairer to say if you deal properly with Chinese manufacturers you can get very high quality, but some companies know that marketing sells racquets, not quality.

Fed Kennedy
03-09-2012, 01:30 AM
You want a sony tv or an insignia?

McLovin
03-09-2012, 03:47 AM
But what does that say about Volkl and Pacific racquets? Aren't both of their manufacturing companies based in China as well?

I assume that is where 'quality control' comes in. Volkl/Pacific probably check a larger sample set to ensure they are within specs. For Pacific, they still have the 'zero tolerance' tag, so they probably have an even larger sample set when it comes to checking overall weight (I don't believe 'zero tolerance' applies to balance or flex).

McLovin
03-09-2012, 04:03 AM
Interesting. I've played with Yonex rackets for going on 10 years now, with brief foreys with other brands, but I've never had any issues with the Yonex frames. They have all been spot on with specks and none have ever cracked, or had the butt cap come off or get lose. In fact the only issue I've ever had was the RDS 001 (bright yellow) paint tended to chip more than their other frames. And my current VCore 98s are doing great!

They have improved over the years. I remember my 2nd Yonex, the R50 'Pat Cash' racquet, cracked on a mis-hit overhead. Then in the early 90s I used an oversize Yonex (can't remember the model, but it was white). Those cracked as well, one while simply sitting in my bag. Then I tried the Cyborg line. That one cracked within 1 week.

It wasn't until the RD Power 10 Long came around that I had no problems w/ cracking. Unfortunately, that was the last Yonex I really liked. I tried the RD Ti-50, but that sucked.

Boricua
03-09-2012, 06:27 AM
You want a sony tv or an insignia?

Mercedes or Toyota.

I used the Yonex VCORE 98 and the Babolat APD GT yesterday. Night and day man, The quality feel and precision of the VCORE eclipses by a mile the APD GT.

The aero design of the APD is nice but not much more. The APD has that Nadal aspect behind it but the VCore line is without a doubt superior.

Ive used the APD Cortex (which I liked better than the GT) and the GT, but I think the VCore 98 will elevate my game.

Ive only used the VCORE a couple of times but till now Im really impressed.

syke
03-09-2012, 09:04 AM
I weighted and checked the balance of my Vcore 100s. Everything was spot on, no joke... That's impeccable QC. I can't say that for my other racquets.

all_backhand
03-09-2012, 09:22 AM
They have improved over the years. I remember my 2nd Yonex, the R50 'Pat Cash' racquet, cracked on a mis-hit overhead. Then in the early 90s I used an oversize Yonex (can't remember the model, but it was white). Those cracked as well, one while simply sitting in my bag. Then I tried the Cyborg line. That one cracked within 1 week.

It wasn't until the RD Power 10 Long came around that I had no problems w/ cracking. Unfortunately, that was the last Yonex I really liked. I tried the RD Ti-50, but that sucked.

I had a similar problem with my RD-23s when I was a junior in the 90s. About a week after I bought the racquet, I hit an overhead and the pallet cracked. The frame never touched the ground, the handle just cracked at contact. At the time, the proshop owner refused to replace the racquet, but Yonex was very helpful and sent me another one after verifying how it was broken.

That being said, I loved the way those racquets played.

eleventeenth street
03-09-2012, 01:52 PM
I wonder what other brand is highly regarded? I assume Fischer (Pacific).

Pacific's (Fischer's) zero tolerance policy only guarantees exact static (i'm pretty sure) and unfortunately doesn't extend to all their racquets.
According to Pacific's official site, only the x-force, x-force pro and x-feel 95 have this guarantee

tcwrightqb10
04-08-2012, 08:00 PM
I have been using my 2012 Pure Drive Roddick for about a month and it cracked at the base, right above the top of the grip splitting the 'a' in 'Babolat'. Does Babolat replace these easily? I take good care of my rackets. I occasionally hit them on the base of my shoe but I doubt that has anything to do with it. The crack isn't all the way through but it definitely looks bad. Any thoughts?

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tcwrightqb10
04-08-2012, 08:01 PM
sorry, wrong thread

vandre
04-08-2012, 08:18 PM
i've used yonex sticks exclusively for the last five years. this winter i took a spill on an indoor court i was playing on (tons of fuzz + bad shoes for the surface i guess). i had my brand new rqis xl tour in my hands when i hit the court and rolled. aside from a scratch in the pj, you'd never know that anything happened to the racquet. i've been hitting with that racquet for months and nothing has happened. after reading about the babolats, i kinda wonder if i would have lost a finger or had shards of graphite lodged in my arm or something.

Bud
04-08-2012, 09:05 PM
I have been using my 2012 Pure Drive Roddick for about a month and it cracked at the base, right above the top of the grip splitting the 'a' in 'Babolat'. Does Babolat replace these easily? I take good care of my rackets. I occasionally hit them on the base of my shoe but I doubt that has anything to do with it. The crack isn't all the way through but it definitely looks bad. Any thoughts?

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Dude, come on. That frame was hit against something. Good luck with your warranty claim on this.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo1/tcwrightqb10/d14707f6.jpg

ramos77
04-08-2012, 09:07 PM
no offence to yonex owners but to me the shape of the head just looks wrong..

I know they are quality, and would love to buy one, the look of them puts me off. also, whether right or wrong, I see them as girls racquets, and always have...

Don't mean to start an argument, and I know it's silly, it's just the way I feel about them. when i played comp back in the 90's, only girls used to use them...

Bartelby
04-08-2012, 09:12 PM
Yonex looks a little wierd, but why get hung up on it.

I think Wilsons with those PWS love handles look idiotic, and the only two Wilsons I own - an npro and a blade - don't have them.

I don't like the cortex thing, as well, and won't buy a Babolat that has it.

There's no yonex without an isometric so it's compulsory.

blipblop
04-09-2012, 06:39 AM
Speaking as an owner of recent models from both companies, I will agree with those who have said that Yonex is better in manufacturing quality. I love the way the Babolats play, but they come with little niggling annoyances that the Yonexes are without. For example, the squeaky buttcaps. A simple thing to fix, but still I don't think a premium racket should have such a widespread quality issue. The other main thing that makes me say Yonex are better quality is the paint. The paint on the Pure Storm Tour GT chips more easily. Also, although the paint on the Yonex RDS 002 Tour does chip eventually, it is not the type of paint that propogates the damage, if you know what I mean. It doesn't flake off once a portion has chipped, in other words. It has a sort of built-in paint chipping defense.

As for quality control, I can't say I've audited either company lately, but I wouldn't be surprised that at least in this case, Made in China vs Made in Japan means Yonex can hold higher standards. Again, that's not to say Chinese factories are all crap, but for this thread, Yonex wins.

I'd also like to point out again that even though "Yonex wins" in the two quality categories, a player can't ignore the playability of a racket. Babolats are like...well I can't think of an analogy, but some car that is a dream to drive but breaks down right away.

tistrapukcipeht
04-09-2012, 06:44 AM
Dude, come on. That frame was hit against something. Good luck with your warranty claim on this.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo1/tcwrightqb10/d14707f6.jpg

I have to agree with you, this isn't a crack without trying to crack it.

tistrapukcipeht
04-09-2012, 06:50 AM
no offence to yonex owners but to me the shape of the head just looks wrong..

I know they are quality, and would love to buy one, the look of them puts me off. also, whether right or wrong, I see them as girls racquets, and always have...

Don't mean to start an argument, and I know it's silly, it's just the way I feel about them. when i played comp back in the 90's, only girls used to use them...

You actually have no argument whatsoever!

1- There is nothing wrong with the shape is only different and that is why I have liked Yonex and Wilson, both different from the rest, PWS annoys many as well as the square/rectangular shape which both gives extra performance.

2- I would love to see you go in front of Hewitt and say that, if you're man enough, lol, make sure your film it and post on youtube, you'll get a record of "likes" there, that will go viral within minutes.

syke
04-09-2012, 07:08 AM
no offence to yonex owners but to me the shape of the head just looks wrong..

I know they are quality, and would love to buy one, the look of them puts me off. also, whether right or wrong, I see them as girls racquets, and always have...

Don't mean to start an argument, and I know it's silly, it's just the way I feel about them. when i played comp back in the 90's, only girls used to use them...

That's one of the reasons why I bought a Yonex rather than a Babolat.
Everyone trying to look "masculine" and leet with their Babolats.

I just love watching the smirk on their faces being wiped off with my girly Yonex on court.

Such satisfaction seeing them peering out of the corner of their eyes, in total disbelief that a Yonex could produce such a heavy spinny ball.

PowerPlay
04-09-2012, 08:19 PM
I used Yonex from 1997-2010 at which time I switched to Babolat. As far as quality goes, I cannot tell a difference. I think what Yonex does better than Babolat is the actual paint they use. Yonex paint seems to me to be thicker/more coats...much easier to scratch a Babolat than a Yonex.

pvaudio
04-09-2012, 08:57 PM
Fisher
Yonex
Dunlop

In that order.

pvaudio
04-09-2012, 09:05 PM
That's one of the reasons why I bought a Yonex rather than a Babolat.
Everyone trying to look "masculine" and leet with their Babolats.

I just love watching the smirk on their faces being wiped off with my girly Yonex on court.

Such satisfaction seeing them peering out of the corner of their eyes, in total disbelief that a Yonex could produce such a heavy spinny ball.If you're so insecure that a tennis racquet makes you feel less masculine, that's a problem with yourself and not the stick. Girly? Are you kidding? He needs to reevaluate his priorities on the court. A guy I string for is an open level player. He uses a RQiS 1 Tour with Pro Red Code mains and WeissCANNON 6Star Supercharged crosses in purple. I doubt that he cares that his red-pink/purple strings and Yonex racquets may be perceived as girly having played 4 years of D1 tennis a couple of years back.

Timbo's hopeless slice
04-09-2012, 09:13 PM
Dunlops are beautifully made, no question.

On Yonex, I recently picked up an extra one (I already used V-Core95Ds but wanted an extra to play around with strings) from TW here in the States and have this to report.

Now, my old ones are SEA versions that have slightly different decals and AS serial numbers whereas the new one is a US version.

Guess what? Despite obviously coming from totally different batches, They are identical in spec, play the same and are all beautifully made.

Pretty impressed.

Bartelby
04-10-2012, 10:27 AM
The youtek and ig versions of the prestiges and the radicals are every bit as good as Yonex.

syke
04-10-2012, 10:38 AM
Fisher
Yonex
Dunlop

In that order.

The Fischers are definitely next on my list. Now that Pacific has bought over Fischer, where are the racquets made?

rdis10093
04-10-2012, 11:47 AM
hewitt, nalbandian, tomic, and lots of other guys use yonex. Yonex is not just for girls

li0scc0
04-10-2012, 11:55 AM
Using the major manufacturers, I have seen the following with respect to accuracy of specs:

Excellent
1 - Fischer/Pacific
2 - Yonex
Very Good
3 - Tecnifibre
4 -Dunlop
Good
5 - Babolat
6 - Volkl/Boris Becker
Fair
7 - Head
8 - Wilson

For some of the above it depends on the frame. Dunlop's Biomimetic 200 Plus is way off of spec for a couple I have seen, hence why Dunlop is only #4.
Volkl was way off on many of the PB9 and PB8 racquets, hence why it is so low.
Head can be all over the place.
Wilson can be spot on, or can be atrocious, hence it's lowest ranking.

coolblue123
04-10-2012, 12:13 PM
Like one of the posters mentioned, it depends if the vendor:
- demands QC
- is willing to pay for it
- based on demand.

If you wrote in your contract that you will be sampling 100% of the product, reduce tolerance levels, and if 1 goes bad, the entire lot is rejected. This will make the vendor rise prices on it's goods and perhaps reduce it's output.

tistrapukcipeht
04-10-2012, 01:45 PM
There is a substantial difference between the Yonex feel and Babolat feel, It is my opinion between the pure drive 2012 and ezone xi 100 2012. I would assume it is because of higher quality as well.

sargeinaz
04-10-2012, 01:53 PM
Id say babolats are more for girls than yonex, but thats just me.

fibbert
04-10-2012, 02:15 PM
Using the major manufacturers, I have seen the following with respect to accuracy of specs:

Excellent
1 - Fischer/Pacific
2 - Yonex
Very Good
3 - Tecnifibre
4 -Dunlop
Good
5 - Babolat
6 - Volkl/Boris Becker
Fair
7 - Head
8 - Wilson

For some of the above it depends on the frame. Dunlop's Biomimetic 200 Plus is way off of spec for a couple I have seen, hence why Dunlop is only #4.
Volkl was way off on many of the PB9 and PB8 racquets, hence why it is so low.
Head can be all over the place.
Wilson can be spot on, or can be atrocious, hence it's lowest ranking.

Where would you fit Prince into this?

Bartelby
04-10-2012, 05:43 PM
I find Head far superior to Wilson.

syke
04-10-2012, 09:08 PM
Like one of the posters mentioned, it depends if the vendor:
- demands QC
- is willing to pay for it
- based on demand.

If you wrote in your contract that you will be sampling 100% of the product, reduce tolerance levels, and if 1 goes bad, the entire lot is rejected. This will make the vendor rise prices on it's goods and perhaps reduce it's output.

Not forgeting the differences between anomalies and out of spec.
You can stay within spec but choose to ignore the anomalies and churn out products that fail over time.

A lot of these Chinese factories fail to grasp this. The Japanese on the other hand take such deviations very seriously.

Of course this is just about manufacturing quality, you would have to consider design quality as well.

syke
04-10-2012, 09:09 PM
Where would you fit Prince into this?

Pretty much in the same category as Wilson imho.

eidolonshinobi
04-11-2012, 12:11 AM
Using the major manufacturers, I have seen the following with respect to accuracy of specs:

Excellent
1 - Fischer/Pacific
2 - Yonex
Very Good
3 - Tecnifibre
4 -Dunlop
Good
5 - Babolat
6 - Volkl/Boris Becker
Fair
7 - Head
8 - Wilson

For some of the above it depends on the frame. Dunlop's Biomimetic 200 Plus is way off of spec for a couple I have seen, hence why Dunlop is only #4.
Volkl was way off on many of the PB9 and PB8 racquets, hence why it is so low.
Head can be all over the place.
Wilson can be spot on, or can be atrocious, hence it's lowest ranking.

No way Volkl should be in the same category with Babolat. Like I said in a previous post, all three of my PB 10 mids came from three different stores (one in the east coast 2 in CA), perfect 12.1oz strung for each one.

Volkl headquarters USA is here in San Diego, and I've gotten the pleasure to befriend a couple of reps and have seen plenty of their racquets through events and tennis clubs. Never seen discrepancies in weight that would warrant a low category with babolat. Definitely would be up there with Dunlop and Technifibre.

I think Head qc should be higher as well.

TheRed
04-11-2012, 08:22 AM
No way Volkl should be in the same category with Babolat. Like I said in a previous post, all three of my PB 10 mids came from three different stores (one in the east coast 2 in CA), perfect 12.1oz strung for each one.

Volkl headquarters USA is here in San Diego, and I've gotten the pleasure to befriend a couple of reps and have seen plenty of their racquets through events and tennis clubs. Never seen discrepancies in weight that would warrant a low category with babolat. Definitely would be up there with Dunlop and Technifibre.

I think Head qc should be higher as well.

Agreed regarding Head. Head is way better than Wilson. If you're looking for the exact same racquets, than you may not get that with Head. But, every head racquet I've bought has been fairly close in specs to eachother. You'll notice a difference if you're a racquet geek like us here but mostly, wilson is a distant last.
Prince is difficult to determine now b/c I don't have much experience with its racquets anymore. I once loved the POG mid so I bought a second one. The second one wasn't just less headlight, it was head heavy. I never touched a prince after that.

li0scc0
04-11-2012, 03:16 PM
Where would you fit Prince into this?

Shame on me for forgetting Prince! My apologies.
I would put Prince just above Head. THey don't have the accuracy of Head in their best racquets, but they don't have the atrocious discrepancies of Head in their worst racquets (by best and worse I mean, objectively, best with respect to QC and worst with respect to QC).

li0scc0
04-11-2012, 03:21 PM
No way Volkl should be in the same category with Babolat. Like I said in a previous post, all three of my PB 10 mids came from three different stores (one in the east coast 2 in CA), perfect 12.1oz strung for each one.

Volkl headquarters USA is here in San Diego, and I've gotten the pleasure to befriend a couple of reps and have seen plenty of their racquets through events and tennis clubs. Never seen discrepancies in weight that would warrant a low category with babolat. Definitely would be up there with Dunlop and Technifibre.

I think Head qc should be higher as well.

I would agree with Volkl if we were only dealing with the 10 series. Fantastic racquets with spot on QC! If that was all we were dealing with, I would have Volkl in the top 3-4
However, my experience with the 6, 7, 8, and 9 series (Tour, DNX, PB, and Organix) leaves much to be desired. The PB 9 has been all over the place. In fact, one PB9 was 12 ounces strung, stock. No modifications either. Another was just under 11. That is the highest discrepancy I have seen in any racquet, including the K-Blade which has been a topic of conversation of mine here before. But given the accuracy of many of their racquets, they aren't 'bad'.

As for Head, again, depends. The Prestige line is pretty good. The Radical Pro is fair. The Speed Pro was atrocious. Again, over half an ounce difference in racquets, to say nothing of swingweight issues. Their lighter racquets are pretty poor as well (sub 10.5 ounce racquets).