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BevelDevil
03-06-2012, 02:51 PM
Should be easier for spectators to see the ball, but Nadal and Fed don't like the change.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/01/sport/tennis/tennis-madrid-blue-clay/index.html


(The news is a few months old, but I didn't find any references on TW.)

Nathaniel_Near
03-06-2012, 02:52 PM
I'm really looking forward to that tournament, the new surface colour is an exciting change and an exciting new look!

Hood_Man
03-06-2012, 03:03 PM
I voted whatever. As long as it's only one tournament they can do what they want, at least they chose a nice shade of blue.

A few years ago this would have been a better idea when TV was still in Standard Definition, but now with HD it's not even that hard to find an online stream that lets you see the ball clearly.

It'll be interesting to see.

Murrayalmagrofan
03-06-2012, 03:05 PM
I'm with the whatever crowd... :p

Mustard
03-06-2012, 03:09 PM
Stick with red.

Larrysümmers
03-06-2012, 03:09 PM
i vote there needs to be more colored surfaces.

kishnabe
03-06-2012, 03:15 PM
The red is classic....seeing Blue is just a turn off!

tennis_pro
03-06-2012, 03:17 PM
I say let's give it a try. They can always change it back to red.

celoft
03-06-2012, 03:21 PM
I'm really looking forward to that tournament, the new surface colour is an exciting change and an exciting new look!

Thinking Federer might win here.

Nathaniel_Near
03-06-2012, 03:24 PM
Thinking Federer might win here.

Nah. The ATP are rigging his draws! He'll get a bunch of clay specialists and high rank in form players. :-|

celoft
03-06-2012, 03:29 PM
Nah. The ATP are rigging his draws! He'll get a bunch of clay specialists and high rank in form players. :-|

Federer's done better in Madrid than in IW/Miami in the past 3 years.

Nathaniel_Near
03-06-2012, 03:31 PM
Federer's done better in Madrid than in IW/Miami in the past 3 years.

I know, I was joking. I think he has a good chance to win the Madrid 1000, in fact it's probably going to be his best chance to win a 1000 event before RG. :)

celoft
03-06-2012, 03:41 PM
I know, I was joking. I think he has a good chance to win the Madrid 1000, in fact it's probably going to be his best chance to win a 1000 event before RG. :)

Agree...............................

pound cat
03-06-2012, 03:49 PM
Here's what various blue clay couts look like


http://www.google.ca/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=640&q=blue+clay+tennis+court&gbv=2&oq=blue+clay+&aq=0&aqi=g5g-S5&aql=&gs_sm=1&gs_upl=2001l5913l0l8899l10l10l0l1l1l0l64l306l9l9l0&gs_l=img.1.0.0l5j0i24l5.2001l5913l0l8904l10l10l0l1 l1l0l64l306l9l9l0

pound cat
03-06-2012, 03:51 PM
They could have chosen Maroon or yellow clay see article below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_court

Biscuitmcgriddleson
03-06-2012, 04:03 PM
Black clay would have been awesome. I still want to see a black indoor hard court.

Hood_Man
03-06-2012, 04:13 PM
Black clay would look cool, but with that stuff flying up all over the place in long rallies with the ball bounces and skids etc, a slow motion montage might look like the beach landing from Saving Private Ryan.

wimble10
03-06-2012, 04:35 PM
great article. I say stay with red.

stormholloway
03-06-2012, 04:37 PM
I mean, they changed most hard courts to blue, what's the difference in change clay to blue? The days of natural surfaces are over. Most are made of cement. Paint them whatever you want.

kishnabe
03-06-2012, 04:54 PM
Black clay would look cool, but with that stuff flying up all over the place in long rallies with the ball bounces and skids etc, a slow motion montage might look like the beach landing from Saving Private Ryan.

Black clay with the old fashioned while balls would be cool.

heftylefty
03-06-2012, 05:10 PM
Black clay with the old fashioned while balls would be cool.

That would be pretty sweet!! Even a Black HardCourt with white balls.

West Coast Ace
03-06-2012, 05:23 PM
I'm in the 'try it once' camp and respect Tiriac for thinking outside the box - the traditionalists can go pound. Should be easier to see the ball on TV.

raphMODE
03-06-2012, 05:48 PM
With a clay court looking like a hardcourt, Federer has a chance to beat Nadal :p

Pidgeon
03-07-2012, 01:09 AM
makes me think of the neon court in topspin 4

Rock Strongo
03-07-2012, 01:12 AM
I hope they mess up the composition of it and it turns REALLY REALLY fast, just to throw everyone off meaning Llodra will win his first Masters 1000 title.

Bobby Jr
03-07-2012, 01:22 AM
I voted whatever. As long as it's only one tournament they can do what they want, at least they chose a nice shade of blue.

A few years ago this would have been a better idea when TV was still in Standard Definition,..
I agree. If they want to try something new, why not?

The HD TV thing doesn't seem to solve it a whole lot imo. I think pre-broadcast factors play a bigger role - camera, lighting, post-production etc. I was watching the Mexico tournament last week, in HD on a 52 inch screen and the ball was way harder to spot compared to Dubai.

It'll be odd seeing player's socks all clogged up with blue clay though.

vive le beau jeu !
03-07-2012, 01:56 AM
I hope they mess up the composition of it and it turns REALLY REALLY fast, just to throw everyone off meaning Llodra will win his first Masters 1000 title.
what secret ingredient do you suggest to add to the composition in order to do that ? :)

http://th06.deviantart.net/fs36/PRE/i/2008/245/3/3/Spices_market_by_CrokSushi.jpg

Paul Murphy
03-07-2012, 02:09 AM
I think the blue looks terrific - it can be tough to see some of the lines on the red clay courts - it looks like the blue may make it easier.

aphex
03-07-2012, 02:19 AM
what secret ingredient do you suggest to add to the composition in order to do that ? :)

http://i.pbase.com/u33/lupkeen/upload/35653822.medit19_265_IMG_1228.jpg

Dibs on super 8 movie poster!
You can have 9mm or 9 1/2 weeks after that.
I'll then have 10 (with bo derek)
Then you get ocean's 11
and after that I get 12 angry men

deal?

Leelord337
03-07-2012, 02:27 AM
i voted to stick with red at the french, nothing like all that red clay all over the socks/shorts of players..dirtballers

now madrid on clay would be pretty neat, would bring the feel of that old madrid indoor masters on blue hardcourts back

vive le beau jeu !
03-07-2012, 03:06 AM
Dibs on super 8 movie poster!
You can have 9mm or 9 1/2 weeks after that.
I'll then have 10 (with bo derek)
Then you get ocean's 11
and after that I get 12 angry men

deal?
damned !
i couldn't see what was actually displayed, but i should be more careful with picture insertion bugs since the regretable 'chocolate incident' some years ago... http://reinert.blogg.se/images/2012/smiley20whistling_92322256_185826287.gif
(but apart from zagor, malakas and drakulie, does anybody else know about it ?...) http://planetsmilies.net/angel-smiley-5097.gif

pound cat
03-07-2012, 03:51 AM
Black clay would look cool, but with that stuff flying up all over the place in long rallies with the ball bounces and skids etc, a slow motion montage might look like the beach landing from Saving Private Ryan.

Imagine how the players will look with blue clay on their body as the match progresses. This makes Federer sad just thinking about it.

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00850/roger_850722f.jpg

The Bawss
03-07-2012, 03:55 AM
Blue clay looks awesome BUT if they made clay blue then about 90% of tennis matches would be played on blue courts as pretty much all hardcourts are now blue. They should change up the colour of the hardcourts, green, red, blue purple, whatever and make clay blue.

Telepatic
03-07-2012, 05:05 AM
ao courts still looks better.

GasquetGOAT
03-07-2012, 05:13 AM
Blue clay is a nice change up but hope they make it play as fast as blue hardcourt.

wimble10
03-07-2012, 11:36 AM
Well Nadal and Federer are against it. I wonder how the rest of the field feels. They should let the players decide.

syc23
03-07-2012, 12:06 PM
Black would have been awesome.

laughingbuddha
03-07-2012, 01:07 PM
Transparent clay and invisible balls.

Rock Strongo
03-07-2012, 01:14 PM
I thought of fluprescent astroturf with white balls, combined with UV lighting. It wouldn't be a tennis match, more of a rave!

wimble10
03-07-2012, 01:18 PM
I thought of fluprescent astroturf with white balls, combined with UV lighting. It wouldn't be a tennis match, more of a rave!
and no lights :)

Rock Strongo
03-07-2012, 01:26 PM
and no lights :)

And there would be techno music in between points, and lasers during the changeovers!

stormholloway
03-07-2012, 01:42 PM
Blue clay is a nice change up but hope they make it play as fast as blue hardcourt.

This is just dumb.

ledwix
03-07-2012, 01:51 PM
The color looks cool and fresh. I say it's a good move, as long as Roland Garros stays red.

vive le beau jeu !
03-07-2012, 02:00 PM
I thought of fluprescent astroturf with white balls, combined with UV lighting. It wouldn't be a tennis match, more of a rave!
And there would be techno music in between points, and lasers during the changeovers!
a bit something like this, you mean ? ;)

http://www.sevens7.co.uk/wp-content/themes/Sevens7/img/gallery/large/night-tennis-madrid-big.jpg
http://enveeapparel.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/sony-ericsson-night-tennis/

laughingbuddha
03-07-2012, 02:13 PM
a bit something like this, you mean ? ;)

http://www.sevens7.co.uk/wp-content/themes/Sevens7/img/gallery/large/night-tennis-madrid-big.jpg
http://enveeapparel.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/sony-ericsson-night-tennis/

that is no tennis court.

elpolaco84
03-07-2012, 02:22 PM
what do you think its going to happen if Nadal loses early in Madrid?

raphMODE
03-07-2012, 03:35 PM
what do you think its going to happen if Nadal loses early in Madrid?
Well... it would OBVIOUSLY be because of this new blue clay he was against ;)

MichaelNadal
03-07-2012, 04:30 PM
^I thought I heard somewhere he was skipping Madrid?

SStrikerR
03-07-2012, 04:42 PM
blue = not clay. It's just weird.

Hood_Man
03-07-2012, 05:35 PM
a bit something like this, you mean ? ;)

http://www.sevens7.co.uk/wp-content/themes/Sevens7/img/gallery/large/night-tennis-madrid-big.jpg
http://enveeapparel.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/sony-ericsson-night-tennis/

This picture reminds me of those novelty SatNav voices. A great idea when you buy it, and then you realise you're stuck with it for hours.

Carolina Racquet
03-07-2012, 05:53 PM
Blue Clay?? With a surface like that one might expect to see a Boise State football game rather than tennis!

augustobt
03-08-2012, 05:40 AM
Well, that's cool for Madrid. Only. If they change all the clay courts to blue, it will suck.

MichaelNadal
03-08-2012, 05:51 AM
^^I don't think that would happen, and hopefully Madrid isn't even blue next year.

FlamEnemY
03-08-2012, 06:30 AM
I hope I don't have to play one day on blue grass

Dear Nadal,

the grass color has already changed. Right now you are playing on brown grass.

It's called dirt.