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joeri888
03-16-2012, 08:32 AM
for most consecutive times of participation at a YEC event?

sbengte
03-16-2012, 08:40 AM
Ivan Lendl ? He must at least have the record for most number of finals made at YEC.

vive le beau jeu !
03-16-2012, 08:50 AM
for total things: connors in terms of 'qualifications', but agassi in terms of 'appearances'.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_de_tennis_masculin#Participations_et_quali fications

Gorecki
03-16-2012, 08:50 AM
Lendl was in 12...

Sampras made 11, the first only reaching the rr stage...

Agassi did 13, not consecutive though....

vive le beau jeu !
03-16-2012, 08:53 AM
Lendl was in 12...
and he always reached at least the SF !

joeri888
03-16-2012, 08:54 AM
Lendl was in 12...

Sampras made 11, the first only reaching the rr stage...

Agassi did 13, not consecutive though....

Those 12 were consecutive? He never dropped out ebcause of injury or something?

Gorecki
03-16-2012, 08:55 AM
and he always reached at least the SF !

true.

Lendl was such an amazing tennis player. so much consistency in such polar surfaces as they were in the 80's and early 90's...

joeri888
03-16-2012, 09:00 AM
true.

Lendl was such an amazing tennis player. so much consistency in such polar surfaces as they were in the 80's and early 90's...

I agree. Too bad that isn't the case anymore. I would love to see the greats of today try to emulate that.

BigServer1
03-16-2012, 09:11 AM
I wonder how many more Fed can make...Feel like he could definitely challenge that record from Lendl.

I don't see 8 guys being better over a season than Fed anytime soon.

Mustard
03-16-2012, 09:14 AM
Lendl reached 9 YEC finals in a row, winning 5 of those 9.

Benhur
03-16-2012, 09:50 AM
Lendl reached 9 YEC finals in a row, winning 5 of those 9.

Lendl played his best tennis indoors. All 5 of those final wins were great. The 1987 one against Wilander was probably where he played his very best, virtually flawless tennis, but the ones agaisnt Becker were probably more entertaining.

Lendl-Gerulaitis Masters final 1981 (3rd set tiebreak)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzF_kqvpw-8

Lendl-McEnroe Masters final 1982 (highlights)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS_sAQXz5tU

Lendl-Becker Masters final 1985 (highlights)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sdVrnKR3qs

Lendl-Becker Masters final 1986 (highlights)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3q9Y5fAdMo

Lendl-Wilander Masters final 1987
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq8-65ehf1U

sbengte
03-16-2012, 10:01 AM
Those 12 were consecutive? He never dropped out ebcause of injury or something?

I think so. 1980 - 1991.

sbengte
03-16-2012, 10:04 AM
Lendl was such an amazing tennis player. so much consistency in such polar surfaces as they were in the 80's and early 90's...

Yes, indeed. Many of the consistency records that Federer has been breaking all belonged to Lendl. Like the consecutive slam semis for instance.
Considering Lendl did it when the surfaces were so diverse adds more weight to his achievements. If only Lendl was fortunate enough to have played on the current grass at Wimbledon !

merlinpinpin
03-16-2012, 10:37 AM
Lendl played his best tennis indoors. All 5 of those final wins were great. The 1987 one against Wilander was probably where he played his very best, virtually flawless tennis, but the ones agaisnt Becker were probably more entertaining.


The difference in styles with Becker sure were great (and the fact that they didn't like each other much, to put it mildly, sure had the fireworks going), but the '87 final against Wilander sure was one of the crowning moments of Lendl's career. He served pretty poorly in that match, but still destroyed Mats utterly. Truly a great performance.

merlinpinpin
03-16-2012, 10:41 AM
Yes, indeed. Many of the consistency records that Federer has been breaking all belonged to Lendl. Like the consecutive slam semis for instance.
Considering Lendl did it when the surfaces were so diverse adds more weight to his achievements. If only Lendl was fortunate enough to have played on the current grass at Wimbledon !

He was definitely one of a select few in the open era who deserved a career slam, but that wasn't to be, unfortunately. An on-fire Cash probably killed his best chance of a Wimbledon trophy in '87, the year when Becker crashed out early and Lendl dispatched Edberg in the semis. Oh well...

nadalwon2012
03-16-2012, 12:12 PM
Lendl's legacy owns the crap out of Djokovic.

Mustard
03-16-2012, 12:49 PM
Yes, indeed. Many of the consistency records that Federer has been breaking all belonged to Lendl. Like the consecutive slam semis for instance.
Considering Lendl did it when the surfaces were so diverse adds more weight to his achievements. If only Lendl was fortunate enough to have played on the current grass at Wimbledon !

Lendl wasn't good enough to win Wimbledon. It's amazing that he won a lot of tough 4-5 set matches there and has got as good a Wimbledon record as he has. Lendl's movement on the grass at Wimbledon never felt right to me, and the change of grass-courts to 100% Rye from September 2001 won't have changed that. Also, there's plenty of doubt cast on the quality of Lendl's service returns on grass-courts.

I'm not convinced Lendl would have won Wimbledon in any era, but 1983, 1987 and 1989 were his best chances of winning. 1983 was his easiest run to the Wimbledon semis, and then losing a tight 3-set semi final to McEnroe with Chris Lewis waiting in the final. 1987 was when he lost to an on-fire Cash, where I personally think Lendl made a big tactical mistake in trying to take on Cash on Cash's terms (Wimbledon or not), and 1989 was when he lost in 5 sets to Becker in the semi finals after leading by 2 sets to 1 and being a break up in the fourth set.

Towser83
03-16-2012, 12:54 PM
Lendl's legacy owns the crap out of Djokovic.

translation - "I'm a butthurt *******, that meanie Djokovic keeps beating my Rafa!"

:lol:

Towser83
03-16-2012, 12:54 PM
Lendl reached 9 YEC finals in a row, winning 5 of those 9.

Insane consistency from Lendl. If he can give Murray half of that, the Scot will be mighty pleased.

nadalwon2012
03-16-2012, 12:55 PM
translation - "I'm a butthurt *******, that meanie Djokovic keeps beating my Rafa!"

:lol:

Who is?

16-14, going on 17-14....sorry.

Towser83
03-16-2012, 01:07 PM
Who is?

16-14, going on 17-14....sorry.

Apology accepted, 17-14 hasn't happened yet. I will also await you playing down a 2 match advantage if/when Djokovic holds it.

But if you're not butthurt about the 7 losses in a row on all surfaces, why the random attacks on Djokovic?

Your feelings betray you.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_658NFoRNe6I/TUCzoX59BiI/AAAAAAAAAI8/yJ7oKTBhmyM/s1600/5000186951.jpg

nadalwon2012
03-16-2012, 01:09 PM
Apology accepted, 17-14 hasn't happened yet. I will also await you playing down a 2 match advantage if/when Djokovic holds it.

But if you're not butthurt about the 7 losses in a row on all surfaces, why the random attacks on Djokovic?

Your feelings betray you.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_658NFoRNe6I/TUCzoX59BiI/AAAAAAAAAI8/yJ7oKTBhmyM/s1600/5000186951.jpg

Did people even like djokovic before he started beating Nadal? He was booed at slams.

Towser83
03-16-2012, 01:13 PM
Did people even like djokovic before he started beating Nadal? He was booed at slams.

nice diversion tactic.

People love Djokovic. They beg him to do his impressions as he shows more personality than Nadal or Federer. I liked him back in 2006 before I even saw him play Nadal, or before Nadal was anything more than a clay courter.

nadalwon2012
03-16-2012, 01:26 PM
Diversion tactic? I never liked Djokovic, 5 years ago included. Is that a shock to you? In disbelief?

Mustard
03-16-2012, 01:28 PM
Did people even like djokovic before he started beating Nadal? He was booed at slams.

Djokovic certainly seemed to have fewer fans on here before 2011. Either that, or Djokovic fans have become more vocal since.

nadalwon2012
03-16-2012, 01:32 PM
Djokovic certainly seemed to have fewer fans on here before 2011. Either that, or Djokovic fans have become more vocal since.

A 'fan' increase makes sense to me. Without djokovic, Nadal has 3 more slams over the past 12 months and sailing to 16+. To some people, djokovic is god for that reason alone.

Towser83
03-16-2012, 02:35 PM
Diversion tactic? I never liked Djokovic, 5 years ago included. Is that a shock to you? In disbelief?

Insulting a player when it's totally irrelevant...and that player just so happens to be the player beating your boy and stopping him winning slams at the moment. Coincidence?

A 'fan' increase makes sense to me. Without djokovic, Nadal has 3 more slams over the past 12 months and sailing to 16+. To some people, djokovic is god for that reason alone.

Yes and without Nadal, Federer would have over 20 slams and back to back calendar slams. Many, many, many people like Nadal cos he stopped Federer. Who do you think all the samptards started rooting for?

A fan increase for the guy who becomes the number 1 player and starts playing the best tennis. Makes sense to me too.