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xeros
03-21-2012, 08:05 AM
Which one is better in :
Control
Feeling

And overall help me to choice ?

fibonacci888
03-21-2012, 08:19 AM
How did you come to this selection?

Why no:

Pabolat pure drive
Pacific xfast
Technifibre tflash 300
Head extreme

xeros
03-21-2012, 08:28 AM
I prefer wilson pro open to extrme tflash pure drive
Do you think 400 tour is bad racket?

corners
03-21-2012, 01:18 PM
400 Tour is very different from Pro Open. Pro Open is a tweener with very similar specs to Babolat APD (but the Open is less stiff). 400 Tour has the specs of a "lightweight player's frame". It has low swingweight, relatiely high static weight and headlight balance. Basically it's a lighter version of classic player's sticks (like Pro Staff and Prestige) but with a larger headsize and thicker beam.

In general, a spin-oriented baseliner might prefer the Pro Open and a shorter or younger all-court player might like the 400 Tour (a taller or more mature all-courter might prefer something heavier like 200 Tour or Pure Storm Tour, etc.).

xeros
03-21-2012, 01:29 PM
I'm 30 year's old!! I'm 5.0 Level player.
I've got very good serve And forehand a one handedbackhand.
I like play powerfull, my style of game is like tsonga in very very less good!!
So it's better to take pro open or 400 tour?
And i didn't like heavy racket like pure storm tour because my arm feel very soon tired. And i like to make fast swing

vegasgt3
03-21-2012, 04:10 PM
400 Tour is very different from Pro Open. Pro Open is a tweener with very similar specs to Babolat APD (but the Open is less stiff). 400 Tour has the specs of a "lightweight player's frame". It has low swingweight, relatiely high static weight and headlight balance. Basically it's a lighter version of classic player's sticks (like Pro Staff and Prestige) but with a larger headsize and thicker beam.

In general, a spin-oriented baseliner might prefer the Pro Open and a shorter or younger all-court player might like the 400 Tour (a taller or more mature all-courter might prefer something heavier like 200 Tour or Pure Storm Tour, etc.).

This racquet is designed to be customized with lead enhancements, so it can play any way you want it to.

xeros
03-22-2012, 06:47 AM
I play one more Time with the 400 tour and she feel little soft or flexible, strange feeling she had

getsby
04-29-2012, 03:51 AM
For me, I needed a weighting of both rackets. 400T has a smaller sweet spot, but I would not attribute it to the player`s stick. This racquet is not so demanding on the swing, as the prestige or k-6.1. IMO, 400T more control oriented stick.
In stock form, both quite unstable against hard hitters.
Mini review
Serves and Overheads-400T
Serve Return-Pro Open
Power-Pro Open
Spin-both are good, probably a little more spin with Pro Open
Control-400T
Slice-Pro Open
Maneuverability-400T
Stability-Pro Open

yellowmatter
04-29-2012, 09:02 PM
I'm very interested in these two rackets as well as the 500 tour and the Prince exo3 graphite 100, and Prince exo3 tour team.

How do they compare and are adequate for a beginner/intermediate?

getsby
04-29-2012, 10:04 PM
400T definitely not suitable for beginner/intermediate

yellowmatter
04-30-2012, 06:16 AM
Is the 2012 pro open very different from the 2011?

Crocodile
05-03-2012, 08:02 AM
I think the 400 tour is an excellent racquet. I would choose over the Wilson, it has great feel and suits a broad range of players. It;s actually quite a lively frame yet quite comfortable.

Power Player
05-03-2012, 08:07 AM
Is the 2012 pro open very different from the 2011?

It is the same racquet. The difference in specs is just QC issues.

getsby
05-04-2012, 12:42 AM
2Power Player, statement based on personal experience? You playing with both sticks (Pro Open, 2011 and 2012)?

Power Player
05-04-2012, 04:47 AM
Wilson rep told me this.

lvuong
05-04-2012, 04:51 AM
Wilson rep told me this.

Hi PP, are new 6.1 95 16*18 is also the same as last year ?

prjacobs
05-04-2012, 07:44 AM
I'm very interested in these two rackets as well as the 500 tour and the Prince exo3 graphite 100, and Prince exo3 tour team.

How do they compare and are adequate for a beginner/intermediate?

Personally, I preferred the 4D 500 tour over the pro open. I wouldn't necessarily say that its best for a beginner, but a beginner who's athletic and in good shape can use almost anything -in my opinion :).
You really have to demo. What works for me may suck for you.... Good luck.

hoodjem
05-05-2012, 07:29 AM
I play one more Time with the 400 tour and she feel little soft or flexible, strange feeling she had
Ahh, mais bien sur, she is very nice--a bit romantic.

getsby
05-05-2012, 11:50 AM
Wilson rep told me this.
Today I received a new Pro Open 2012. Made almost the same customs, as the old-2.5 gr on 3 and 9 o`clock, 3.5 gr lead tape under the handle and 5 gr under butt cap. Plus Dunlop overgrip and vibration. Full setup weighs 337.5 gr new PO and 340.5 gr old PO. Both string Volkl Cyclone 17. Tomorrow on court, compare both.

Power Player
05-05-2012, 12:17 PM
Main thing with Wilson is it is about impossible to get the same specs which is why I believe they are different from 2010 to 2012 in the TW listings.

getsby
05-05-2012, 01:27 PM
I weighed new racket, without overgrip and dampener, 314 gr. Old version weighed very closed, 317 gr. The balance of approximately identical. I have little faith in the measurements conducted by the TW. The only difference, I am interested in a larger sweet spot of new version, as evidenced by the Power Map. check back tomorrow

Readers
05-05-2012, 02:03 PM
Wilson rep told me this.

He's wrong then, I own the old one and played the new one, two different frame.

Main thing with Wilson is it is about impossible to get the same specs which is why I believe they are different from 2010 to 2012 in the TW listings.

They feels different to me, the new one feels harsh, and I believe that much of difference is even out of Wilson's tolerance.

Of course, it's still possibility, and if that's the case, I will just need to stay away from Wilson forever.

getsby
05-05-2012, 04:21 PM
Readers, which string you used?

Readers
05-06-2012, 11:47 AM
It's not mine, so I don't know which string, I think it's some sort of yellow synthetic gut.

getsby
05-06-2012, 01:17 PM
so I can compare old and new versions of Pro Open. As expected, the new version has a larger sweet spot. No hollow feeling in upper hoop, inherent in the old version.
but the serious disadvantage of the new version is matte PJ. it substantially reduces the head speed. swing slightly muted. as a whole rackets is really similar

Readers
05-06-2012, 10:06 PM
so I can compare old and new versions of Pro Open. As expected, the new version has a larger sweet spot. No hollow feeling in upper hoop, inherent in the old version.
but the serious disadvantage of the new version is matte PJ. it substantially reduces the head speed. swing slightly muted. as a whole rackets is really similar

Similar but not the same. I don't see how matte reduces the head speed or change how it swings though.

getsby
05-07-2012, 01:08 PM
I hold the opposite opinion

bluegrass_stringer
06-14-2012, 09:36 PM
I got the 2012 pro open and compared it to older BLX pro opens and they feel different. I used same string at same tension. Newer model has a slightly "dead" and stiffer feel. Older pro open has more feel and provides easier spin. New pro open is better for flatter strokes, but not as good on spin. 2012 version feels like a pure drive. Also, 2012 version I got was more head heavy. Wilson is bad about tolerance. One of my older pro opens had a stiffness of 71 on a Babolat RDC machine while the other had 66. My goal is to find a store with several older pro opens in stock and have them match me a couple.