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nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 05:47 PM
10 is inevitable. There has never been a more dominant player on any surface, ever. Even at his 2009 level, get past Soderling and the odds are he would have won that too.
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10 Roland Garros titles.

WhiskeyEE
05-28-2012, 05:50 PM
I think he'll win this year. I give him a decent chance at winning next year. Then I think he'll be done.

So what is that... 7 or 8? Yeah I'd bet good money he won't get to 10.

nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 05:50 PM
I think he'll win this year. I give him a decent chance at winning next year. Then I think he'll be done.

So what is that... 7 or 8? Yeah I'd bet good money he won't get to 10.

You going to cut his legs off after next year? Makes no sense.

NadalAgassi
05-28-2012, 05:51 PM
I dont think he will win 10. I think he will end up with either 8 or 9. Over the next 4 years I think Nadal will win 2 or 3, Djokovic 1 and possibly even 2, and someone else maybe surprising with 1 (Del Potro or someone else).

Numenor
05-28-2012, 05:51 PM
10 is inevitable. There has never been a more dominant player on any surface, ever. Even at his 2009 level, get past Soderling and the odds are he would have won that too.
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10 Roland Garros titles.

Stop being such a bitter hater. True Nadal fans like myself know he will win a hundred billion RG titles.

WhiskeyEE
05-28-2012, 05:53 PM
You going to cut his legs off after next year? Makes no sense.

I think that his upcoming failures on everything outside of clay with hurt his confidence and his ranking. And I mean the guy's already nearly 26. He's already lost half a step and by the time he loses a full step I don't see him dominating the clay court season.

nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 05:54 PM
I think that his upcoming failures on everything outside of clay with hurt his confidence and his ranking. And I mean the guy's already nearly 26. He's already lost half a step and by the time he loses a full step I don't see him dominating the clay court season.

Yep he just made 4 straight slam finals, for the first time in his career. He's a slam specialist. Big failure.

WhiskeyEE
05-28-2012, 05:56 PM
Yep he just made 4 straight slam finals, for the first time in his career. He's a slam specialist. Big failure.

Fed once made 18 out of 19 slam finals. He then proceeded to make 1 out of 8 slam finals.

I see Fed making more slam finals and Nadal making less. A lot less.

nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 05:56 PM
I dont think he will win 10. I think he will end up with either 8 or 9. Over the next 4 years I think Nadal will win 2 or 3, Djokovic 1 and possibly even 2, and someone else maybe surprising with 1 (Del Potro or someone else).

If Djokovic couldn't win it in 2011, when his confidence was in full flow, he never will. But hey, Federer got his without having to beat Nadal, so its possible.

nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 06:02 PM
Fed once made 18 out of 19 slam finals. He then proceeded to make 1 out of 8 slam finals.

I see Fed making more slam finals and Nadal making less. A lot less.

Federer has never been as dominant as Nadal's RG dominance, at any of the slams. Federer lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon THREE times, and while not as bad at the US Open, not even in the realm of surface genius Nadal's RG 6 of 7 domination. Not even a close comparison. Plus they are polar opposite athletes/minds/people. Federer doesn't have an 'easy' slam to fall back on in his old age. That's the big difference in their evolutionary paths. But I agree that Nadal will lose less slam finals than Federer.

Clarky21
05-28-2012, 06:07 PM
Ridiculous thread,but looking at who started it,I am not surprised.

kishnabe
05-28-2012, 06:08 PM
Even though he is the GCCOAT! You asking him to play good enough Clay Court tennis for 4+ Years.

2012: He could Win it
2013: He could win it
2014: He could Win it
2015: He could win it.

Though Djokovic, Federer and any future contedors we don't know, or others we know whom develop their CC games dramatically......may take Nadal out.

Nadal one 6 out of 7 times. It started when he was 19 now he is 26......I don't think dominance on Clay could last any longer.

Federer dominated Grass from 03-09.....Yes 08 Nadal won....but it was still good enough to say he was dominant player on Grass. I hope Federer does win this year Wimbledon Edition. It evident Federer declined at 28 on Grass. and that is on a surface where footwork is essential.

Nadal is going to lose another half a step....when that comes...everyone is going to beat him. It might be 2-3 years from now. Maybe 5 years from now.


Nadal winning 10 RG....is dependant on how the Field Improves, If his Main Rivals get in a way of one of the next 3 RG, or how long his body whom relies on Physical Qualities a bit more than Talent!

I have no doubt Nadal can....but many things got in the way of Sampras.....when people though he would win 10 Wimbledon +. Kracijek ala Soderling. A young gun Federer knocking him off the perch. Another Swiss later kicking his gut.

This year and next year are key. good thing for *******s and fans....Nadal can still pick up majors where he needs them like the Aussie, and Wimbledon. US Open not so much compared to the other favs.

Nadal just needs 7 RG to supplement history....another one is just extra. Like a 17th slam for Federer.

WhiskeyEE
05-28-2012, 06:09 PM
Federer has never been as dominant as Nadal's RG dominance, at any of the slams. Federer lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon THREE times, and while not as bad at the US Open, not even in the realm of surface genius Nadal's RG 6 of 7 domination. Not even a close comparison. Plus they are polar opposite athletes/minds/people. Federer doesn't have an 'easy' slam to fall back on in his old age. That's the big difference in their evolutionary paths. But I agree that Nadal will lose less slam finals than Federer.

That's a terrible argument and you know it. Fed peaked later. 2002 and prior is irrelevant.

You asked a question and I answered. Don't get mad just because I hold a different opinion.

cork_screw
05-28-2012, 06:12 PM
Honestly, I hate this guy. Because he has the potential to win more than 10. He can win every year till he hits 30 and then he will probably win them up until he's 32 if the only thing stopping his is if he doesn't get sidelined with injury. That's why I hate Nadal. Last year when people were giving him 's' for his results I was commenting how he could have easily won many of the matches he lost. In fact most of them he was actually ahead and just let the lead slip by after being up a set or a few breaks. Happened at Sony Open, Indian Wells, Wimbledon and US Open. He could have easily won those tournies as it wasn't so much that djokovic dominated, but Novak did pull out of them where I felt they were all very close matches.
When nadal plays on clay people don't even stand a chance. It's like going hunting with a sniper rifle from a helicopter.
I really want him to tear an ACL. Seriously hate this guy.

Breaker
05-28-2012, 06:14 PM
Anyone who does doubt it is a Nadal hater, plain and simple - GOAT

kishnabe
05-28-2012, 06:15 PM
Federer has never been as dominant as Nadal's RG dominance, at any of the slams. Federer lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon THREE times, and while not as bad at the US Open, not even in the realm of surface genius Nadal's RG 6 of 7 domination. Not even a close comparison. Plus they are polar opposite athletes/minds/people. Federer doesn't have an 'easy' slam to fall back on in his old age. That's the big difference in their evolutionary paths. But I agree that Nadal will lose less slam finals than Federer.

That was when Federer wasn't the Federer he is now. That like saying Nadal won't win Hardcourt Slams for his crappy losses as a Teen....which he did.

What do you call domination if Federer won 6 out of 7 Consecutive Wimbledon. Nadal game was perfected to Clay when he won all those RG. He eventually adapted to the other Slams.

Federer wasn't perfected to grass till 2003. Everyone gets better at different times. Nadal was a little early and Federer was a little late. Nothing wrong with. Doesn't make Nadal more of a genius than Federer. The domination is equal in my opinion but Nadal got a better win percentage.

Federer( 1 FO win and 5 Finals) also dominated on Clay just as well as Nadal( 2 wins and 5 Finals) did on grass.

Bud
05-28-2012, 06:29 PM
Honestly, I hate this guy. Because he has the potential to win more than 10. He can win every year till he hits 30 and then he will probably win them up until he's 32 if the only thing stopping his is if he doesn't get sidelined with injury. That's why I hate Nadal. Last year when people were giving him 's' for his results I was commenting how he could have easily won many of the matches he lost. In fact most of them he was actually ahead and just let the lead slip by after being up a set or a few breaks. Happened at Sony Open, Indian Wells, Wimbledon and US Open. He could have easily won those tournies as it wasn't so much that djokovic dominated, but Novak did pull out of them where I felt they were all very close matches.
When nadal plays on clay people don't even stand a chance. It's like going hunting with a sniper rifle from a helicopter.
I really want him to tear an ACL. Seriously hate this guy.

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El Diablo
05-28-2012, 06:30 PM
I'll be stunned if he reaches 10. Recurrent knee problems, that sort of thing tends to get worse over time. And the level of the game keeps rising, too many good players coming along, window of opportunity rarely stays open that long.

Bud
05-28-2012, 06:32 PM
If he wins in 2012 - 9 total assuming no injury. If not, 8 tops.

Mustard
05-28-2012, 06:34 PM
For goodness sake, OP. He hasn't won 7 yet, and you're talking about 10?

TopFH
05-28-2012, 06:37 PM
I give him a maximum of eight, but only of he wins this year. Remember, he's a week shy of 26, and I seriously doubt he will win slams at the ages of 28-30.

nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 06:51 PM
I'll be stunned if he reaches 10. Recurrent knee problems, that sort of thing tends to get worse over time. And the level of the game keeps rising, too many good players coming along, window of opportunity rarely stays open that long.

But notice how his knee tendinitis flares up either at the end of the year or the Australian Open? It's all about the hardcourts. He has platelet treatment for it just before each clay season, and cruises through the clay and the last time he lost before a Wimbledon final was 2005. The only problem was 2009 when his tendinitis forced him to skip Wimbledon (although its rumored that the real problem was his parents divorce - may not seem like a big enough deal, but he lives with them, so it would be big). Anyway, in 2010 he changed doctors to the guy who pioneers platelet treatment, and since then he's had no problem during the clay-grass season. He's lucky he only has tendinitis, and not a back problem that Djok, Federer and Murray have.

TopFH
05-28-2012, 06:55 PM
But notice how his knee tendinitis flares up either at the end of the year or the Australian Open? It's all about the hardcourts. He has platelet treatment for it just before each clay season, and cruises through the clay and the last time he lost before a Wimbledon final was 2005. The only problem was 2009 when his tendinitis forced him to skip Wimbledon (although its rumored that the real problem was his parents divorce - may not seem like a big enough deal, but he lives with them, so it would be big). Anyway, in 2010 he changed doctors to the guy who pioneers platelet treatment, and since then he's had no problem during the clay-grass season. He's lucky he only has tendinitis, and not a back problem that Djok, Federer and Murray have.

Not trolling, but isn't Rafa's doctor the one being accused of helping dopers? Or was it his previous doctor?

nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 06:55 PM
I give him a maximum of eight, but only of he wins this year. Remember, he's a week shy of 26, and I seriously doubt he will win slams at the ages of 28-30.

I know, it would defy the hope/illusion of his critics who said he would be retired by age 26. Problem for those clowns is that they never saw an athlete in the form of Nadal before. They can compare him to Borg, but when Mac challenged Borg, it was too much. When Djokovic challenged Nadal, no problem, 9 months and Nadal got back on top.

And Nadal is no Federer. They are about as opposite as you can get physically and mentally. And as I've said before, Federer never truly owned a slam to the extent Nadal has. So Nadal can fade a fair bit and still win at Roland Garros.

Federer lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon 3 times, and had to learn how to win. Nadal had to learn how to lose at Roland Garros. And how he's peaking on hardcourts. Making the last 2 US Open finals, and now a 6 hour AO final vs 3-time champion Djokovic.

WhiskeyEE
05-28-2012, 06:56 PM
Rafa still lives with mom and dad? rofl.

Mustard
05-28-2012, 07:00 PM
Rafa still lives with mom and dad? rofl.

What's wrong with that? Some people like to go their own way and others like to stay close to their parents. That's life.

nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 07:04 PM
Not trolling, but isn't Rafa's doctor the one being accused of helping dopers? Or was it his previous doctor?

LOL do your research before you slander someone.

TopFH
05-28-2012, 07:04 PM
I know, it would defy the hope/illusion of his critics who said he would be retired by age 26. Problem for those clowns is that they never saw an athlete in the form of Nadal before. They can compare him to Borg, but Borg is a quitter. When Mac challenged Borg, it was too much. When Djokovic challenged Nadal, no problem, 9 months and Nadal got back on top.

And Nadal is no Federer. They are about as opposite as you can get physically and mentally. And as I've said before, Federer never truly owned a slam to the extent Nadal has. So Nadal can fade a fair bit and still win at Roland Garros.

Federer lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon 3 times, and had to learn how to win. Nadal had to learn how to lose at Roland Garros. And how he's peaking on hardcourts. Making the last 2 US Open finals, and now a 6 hour AO final vs 3-time champion Djokovic.

Maybe because Federer was so good on all surfaces and slams, his dominance at the USO and Wimbledon is really big. Name one other player that has one 5 consecutive times at two different slams. Nadal has never won one slam 5 consecutive times.

WhiskeyEE
05-28-2012, 07:05 PM
What's wrong with that? Some people like to go their own way and others like to stay close to their parents. That's life.

It just reinforces my belief that he's autistic.

DeShaun
05-28-2012, 07:05 PM
I think he'll end with eight.
Rafa seems to have been alternating having one really good year followed by one that is not so good, rinse and repeat. 2012 is one of his really good years, as was 2010. He did not set the world on fire in either 2009 or 2011. So, I think he'll win the French both this year and in 2013, but that'll be all for him.
Him winning ten French Championships just seems unfathomable.

TopFH
05-28-2012, 07:06 PM
LOL do your research before you slander someone.

As I said before, I was not trolling. It was a serious question. I'm not saying that Nadal is doping. But of course, a simple-minded guy like you would not understand.

nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 07:08 PM
As I said before, I was not trolling. It was a serious question. I'm not saying that Nadal is doping. But of course, a simple-minded guy like you would not understand.

Why don't you search the internet before you post? All the information is out there. I don't follow doping doctors myself, but if you are interested, go and find out.

Clarky21
05-28-2012, 07:10 PM
It just reinforces my belief that he's autistic.


Elaborate please?

nadal_slam_king
05-28-2012, 07:10 PM
I think he'll end with eight.
Rafa seems to have been alternating having one really good year followed by one that is not so good, rinse and repeat. 2012 is one of his really good years, as was 2010. He did not set the world on fire in either 2009 or 2011. So, I think he'll win the French both this year and in 2013, but that'll be all for him.
Him winning ten French Championships just seems unfathomable.

But the only bad year he had at Roland Garros was 2009. Nadal beat Federer 6-1 in the 4th set at last year's RG. That is their most lopsided 4th set ever. The Isner match was close, but realize that Nadal doesn't often lose 5-setters. So if you stretch him to 5 sets, you aren't necessarily close. And Nadal still won 5 of his 7 matches in straight sets. Nadal had 2 5-setters at 2010 Wimbledon, the year he won 3 slams. That wasn't a sign of bad form.

WhiskeyEE
05-28-2012, 07:13 PM
Elaborate please?

he demonstrates the typical signs of autism and therefore probably has it.

DeShaun
05-28-2012, 07:16 PM
But the only bad year he had at Roland Garros was 2009. Nadal beat Federer 6-1 in the 4th set at last year's RG. That is their most lopsided 4th set ever. The Isner match was close, but realize that Nadal doesn't often lose 5-setters. So if you stretch him to 5 sets, you aren't necessarily close. And Nadal still won 5 of his 7 matches in straight sets. Nadal had 2 5-setters at 2010 Wimbledon, the year he won 3 slams. That wasn't a sign of bad form.


Oh, I'm just taking a guess. Rafa could well win ten Frenches. It's just extremely difficult to wrap my head around the idea that anyone could win the annual toughest, most physically demanding slam ten different times, when I think about the average shelf life in terms of peak years of an elite athlete and "ten" does not sound believable, or it fails the proverbial eye test in my mind--there's just no precedent for this happening, is all.

Clarky21
05-28-2012, 07:19 PM
he demonstrates the typical signs of autism and therefore probably has it.



What are the typical signs that he demonstrates that makes you think he's autistic? I have heard others say this about him before on here,but noone has ever said exactly why it is they think this.

Racquet Daddy
05-28-2012, 07:21 PM
Why don't you search the internet before you post? All the information is out there. I don't follow doping doctors myself, but if you are interested, go and find out.

Because everything on the internet is true.

Sentinel
05-28-2012, 07:24 PM
he demonstrates the typical signs of autism and therefore probably has it.
Please check the meaning of autism before bandying about this word.

And you almost use it like an insult. There are many many people who suffer this and similar or related conditions to some degree or other, and its not funny, and nor is it nice to use that as an insult.

Numenor
05-28-2012, 07:32 PM
QFT.

And he'll beat Rolaids in each of those hundred billion finals, bagels on the house.

Senti, I know you're a true Nadal fan like me. We must be wary of these haters who claim Nadal will win a paltry 10 French Opens; we must pick our b(attles) closely, when we do engage such haters in open dialogue.

jakemcclain32
05-28-2012, 07:35 PM
Well, since he won't win this year...it's a coin flip.

Disgruntled Worker
05-28-2012, 07:40 PM
Well, since he won't win this year...it's a coin flip.

Uhh...he's the defending champion dude! He has as good a chance as anyone.

The only other players to have won a French Open title currently in the tournament are Fed and Ferrero and I'm pretty sure one of those guys isn't winning it again.

Bud
05-28-2012, 08:14 PM
Well, since he won't win this year...it's a coin flip.

Yeah, that's right.. 2012 is the year of the Ferrer :grin:

WhiskeyEE
05-28-2012, 08:36 PM
What are the typical signs that he demonstrates that makes you think he's autistic? I have heard others say this about him before on here,but noone has ever said exactly why it is they think this.

People with autism commonly demonstrate OCD like behaviour. I'm not suggesting that all people with OCD are autistic, but that's one symptom he has.

The link below provides symptoms of autism in children, but I found the following very telling:

http://www.autism-spectrum-disorder.com/autismsymptoms.html

Placing objects in lines

For whatever reason, autistic people are obsessed with keeping possessions organized in lines. Sound like someone we know? Rafa does exactly that with his only possessions available on court.

I think that his difficulty with English says a lot as well. A normal European athlete in his position would've picked it up by now. He seems incapable of it.

He's known to have difficulty with social interaction as well. That's why he doesn't have any friends on tour. And you can tell how awkward he is in his interviews. When he was younger people chalked it up to stage fright, but it's obvious now that it's something else.

Autistic people often live with their parents into late adulthood and sometimes for their entire lives. They're terrified and often incapable of independence. Rafa is 26, has how many millions of dollars and he still lives with mommy and daddy? That's ridiculous. In the demographic of 26 year old millionaires, he's probably the only one who still lives with his parents.

Another one:

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/autism-symptoms

A need for sameness and routines. For example, a child with autism may always need to eat bread before salad and insist on driving the same route every day to school.

He appears to get unusually upset with changes to his routine. He has problems adapting to change; for example, at Madrid this year. And despite the flack that he has gotten for it from the media and fans, he refuses to stop picking at his his *** on TV. He needs to perform his rituals or else he can't function mentally.

jakemcclain32
05-28-2012, 08:52 PM
Yeah, that's right.. 2012 is the year of the Ferrer :grin:

That's FERRET to you pal :-D

Raz11
05-28-2012, 08:55 PM
I give him 10% of winning 10 RG. There is quite a big gap between him and the rest of the field so he would definitely be a contender for another 3-4 more years. Can't imagine him at age 30+ winning RG since he has already been on the tour for so long now. Not only that but the majority of winners at RG has been under the age of 30. Though I think he will win maybe 2 more. This years and next.

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 03:51 AM
I give him 10% of winning 10 RG. There is quite a big gap between him and the rest of the field so he would definitely be a contender for another 3-4 more years. Can't imagine him at age 30+ winning RG since he has already been on the tour for so long now. Not only that but the majority of winners at RG has been under the age of 30. Though I think he will win maybe 2 more. This years and next.

Is that supposed to be a point? Who on the tour is anything like Nadal? Why compare him to relatively weak players? Even comparing him to Federer is misleading, as they are polar opposites in every way.

Also I extend that question your next 'point'. Why compare Nadal to previous winners of Roland Garros? They are nothing like him, and were all inferior. Except for Borg, but Borg quit when the going got tough.

Feather
05-29-2012, 03:54 AM
Is that supposed to be a point? Who on the tour is anything like Nadal? Why compare him to relatively weak players? Even comparing him to Federer is misleading, as they are polar opposites in every way.

Also I extend that question your next 'point'. Why compare Nadal to previous winners of Roland Garros? They are nothing like him, and were all inferior. Except for Borg, but Borg quit when the going got tough.

It's not just about former players. Clay is the most physically demanding tournament. Those never ending rallied and I don't think Rafa will do that once he gets into 30s. He is NOT a machine but a human being

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 03:54 AM
Oh, I'm just taking a guess. Rafa could well win ten Frenches. It's just extremely difficult to wrap my head around the idea that anyone could win the annual toughest, most physically demanding slam ten different times, when I think about the average shelf life in terms of peak years of an elite athlete and "ten" does not sound believable, or it fails the proverbial eye test in my mind--there's just no precedent for this happening, is all.

Is there supposed to be a precedent? There is no precedent for 7 Roland Garros titles either.

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 03:57 AM
It's not just about former players. Clay is the most physically demanding tournament. Those never ending rallied and I don't think Rafa will do that once he gets into 30s. He is NOT a machine but a human being

I'm not sure who you are comparing Nadal to when you say this. Which inferior player/athlete is the precedent? Jim Courier? :lol:

Anyway, the more critics the merrier. It's always fun to review threads down the road....

Feather
05-29-2012, 03:59 AM
I'm not sure who you are comparing Nadal to when you say this. Which inferior player is the precedent?

I wasn't comparing him with anyone. He already complains a lot about injuries. I wonder how he will play like this, long rallied and chasing each ball like a rabbit once he gets into his 30s. I think it's very demanding

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 04:13 AM
I wasn't comparing him with anyone. He already complains a lot about injuries. I wonder how he will play like this, long rallied and chasing each ball like a rabbit once he gets into his 30s. I think it's very demanding

That's why he likes it.

"It is a virtue that I've always had: I like to suffer, I have learned to enjoy suffering, and I believe that is what helps me." --Nadal

The only thing he generally doesn't like is hardcourts, because they genuinely are a health hazard, hence the platelet treatment he receives each year just before the clay begins (and the yearly injuries the Australian Open causes). Long rallies on clay are not a problem for Nadal. Long rallies on hardcourt, entirely different.

Evan77
05-29-2012, 04:25 AM
how about we go for 35 wins at RG .... oh *** must be masturbat!ng right now, lol ...

Slice&Smash
05-29-2012, 04:53 AM
If only Nadal wins 10 RG titles...

How sweet would life be....

I could leave home again not feeling like a fool...

Mom might stop cursing me for not finishing school...

People won't mind my beer-belly getting fatter...

Being unemployed since 1999 wouldn't matter....

Perhaps girls would finally notice me....

How sweet would life be....

If only Nadal wins 10 RG titles....

phnx90
05-29-2012, 05:57 AM
People with autism commonly demonstrate OCD like behaviour. I'm not suggesting that all people with OCD are autistic, but that's one symptom he has.

The link below provides symptoms of autism in children, but I found the following very telling:

http://www.autism-spectrum-disorder.com/autismsymptoms.html

Placing objects in lines

For whatever reason, autistic people are obsessed with keeping possessions organized in lines. Sound like someone we know? Rafa does exactly that with his only possessions available on court.

I think that his difficulty with English says a lot as well. A normal European athlete in his position would've picked it up by now. He seems incapable of it.

He's known to have difficulty with social interaction as well. That's why he doesn't have any friends on tour. And you can tell how awkward he is in his interviews. When he was younger people chalked it up to stage fright, but it's obvious now that it's something else.

Autistic people often live with their parents into late adulthood and sometimes for their entire lives. They're terrified and often incapable of independence. Rafa is 26, has how many millions of dollars and he still lives with mommy and daddy? That's ridiculous. In the demographic of 26 year old millionaires, he's probably the only one who still lives with his parents.

Another one:

http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/autism-symptoms

A need for sameness and routines. For example, a child with autism may always need to eat bread before salad and insist on driving the same route every day to school.

He appears to get unusually upset with changes to his routine. He has problems adapting to change; for example, at Madrid this year. And despite the flack that he has gotten for it from the media and fans, he refuses to stop picking at his his *** on TV. He needs to perform his rituals or else he can't function mentally.
Makes sense, but what you haven't yet done is state what it is that differentiates OCD from autism, though that's really because you haven't yet defined what OCD is.

If Rafa does possess characteristics that are definitive of autism, only then can you state that he may really have it.

Otherwise, it becomes a more reasonable-sounding version of:

Santa Claus is a man
I am a man
Therefore I must be Santa Claus

ATP100
05-29-2012, 06:02 AM
I kind of doubt it.

Sentinel
05-29-2012, 06:19 AM
Precisely phnx, having one or two symptoms of autism or dyslexia does not mean one suffers from it. Often people self-diagnose themselves or diagnose others based on a couple of symptoms.

Gorecki
05-29-2012, 06:25 AM
What's wrong with that? Some people like to go their own way and others like to stay close to their parents. That's life.

hey... we totally undertand that you relate to him for several reasons...

zcarzach
05-29-2012, 06:26 AM
I kind of doubt it.

As do I. 7, sure, but 10 is a bit out of reach.

Gorecki
05-29-2012, 06:28 AM
Nadal will win also the next 4-5 Hot Dog eating championships, and hand down a big beatdown on the records set by Adam Richman....

ctoth666
05-29-2012, 06:35 AM
I don't think the premise of Nadal winning 10 FO's is THAT ridiculous. I think it's unlikely, but not out of the question. Honestly, it's more likely than it's not. Who's going to dethrone him? Federer? No. Djokovic? Maybe. Murray? No way. And are there any emergent dirt-ballers that can hang with him or make it deep into the draw? Not yet. Unless the French Tennis Federation converts RG to blue clay, Nadal is in with a very good chance of winning this thing for years to come. He plays with a large frame and light racquet so he can just slide and flail away at the ball well past his physical prime.

Excluding injury, Nadal get's his tenth in 2015.

BHiC
05-29-2012, 06:42 AM
Of course not! I thought everyone agreed that Rafa would win Roland Garros every year until he is 48 years old. He will then stop, generously giving someone else a chance to win a few titles. Then, at 55, he will come back, and win another 6 titles, just to prove that he can.

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 07:07 AM
Of course not! I thought everyone agreed that Rafa would win Roland Garros every year until he is 48 years old. He will then stop, generously giving someone else a chance to win a few titles. Then, at 55, he will come back, and win another 6 titles, just to prove that he can.

I think its more of an issue of Nadal getting to 9 Roland Garros titles. Unlikely that he will retire with 9, unless he's explored all efforts to get the 10th, even if it means skipping the Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami.

sdont
05-29-2012, 08:25 AM
What's wrong with that? Some people like to go their own way and others like to stay close to their parents. That's life.

There's staying close to your parents and there's actually living under the same roof. Does Nadal really still live with them?

IMO, your life as an adult starts when you live in your own place. With the kind of money Nadal earns, it would be very strange if he does not have his own house.

WhiskeyEE
05-29-2012, 09:25 AM
Makes sense, but what you haven't yet done is state what it is that differentiates OCD from autism, though that's really because you haven't yet defined what OCD is.

If Rafa does possess characteristics that are definitive of autism, only then can you state that he may really have it.

Otherwise, it becomes a more reasonable-sounding version of:

Santa Claus is a man
I am a man
Therefore I must be Santa Claus

I stated several symptoms that he has in addition to OCD. I'm not saying that he 100% has it; I'm saying that he likely does.

zcarzach
05-29-2012, 09:26 AM
I stated several symptoms that he has in addition to OCD. I'm not saying that he 100% has it; I'm saying that he likely does.

Maybe he has ***-bergers? Might explain a number of things...

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 09:41 AM
There's staying close to your parents and there's actually living under the same roof. Does Nadal really still live with them?

IMO, your life as an adult starts when you live in your own place. With the kind of money Nadal earns, it would be very strange if he does not have his own house.

I haven't read his autobiography, but I've seen it mentioned more than once online that "Nadal currently lives with his parents and younger sister Maria Isabel (Maribel) in their hometown of Manacor". Someone who has read his autobiography will be able to confirm this. Its not uncommon in Europe and Asia. Even married people often live with their parents, in order to receive help with their children. North America its less common. Nadal probably has a huge house, and that would mean he or he and his sister have a whole floor, while his parents have another floor etc.

beast of mallorca
05-29-2012, 09:45 AM
Nadal will win also the next 4-5 Hot Dog eating championships, and hand down a big beatdown on the records set by Adam Richman....

What a stupid post. Idiot.

Gorecki
05-29-2012, 10:04 AM
What a stupid post. Idiot.

my oh my... you have been quite touchy feely of lately. every post of mine ends up with you insulting me? did mommy tell you about our little secret?

funny that of all the stupid posts in the thread, mine was the only one you picked. have i got you banned many times before?

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 10:06 AM
C'mon Gorecki, you know your posts are immature and not really about tennis half the time.

btw,

Nadal 1st Rounds at Roland Garros:

2005: 6-1, 7-6(4), 6-1
2006: 6-2, 7-5, 6-1
2007: 7-5, 6-3, 6-2
2008: 7-5, 6-3, 6-1
2009: 7-5, 6-4, 6-3
2010: 6-2, 6-2, 6-2
2011: 6-4, 6-7(2), 6-7(2), 6-2, 6-4
2012: 6-2, 6-2, 6-1

We have a new personal record.

Gorecki
05-29-2012, 10:11 AM
C'mon Gorecki, you know your posts are immature and not really about tennis half the time.

btw,

Nadal 1st Rounds at Roland Garros:

2005: 6-1, 7-6(4), 6-1
2006: 6-2, 7-5, 6-1
2007: 7-5, 6-3, 6-2
2008: 7-5, 6-3, 6-1
2009: 7-5, 6-4, 6-3
2010: 6-2, 6-2, 6-2
2011: 6-4, 6-7(2), 6-7(2), 6-2, 6-4
2012: 6-2, 6-2, 6-1

We have a new personal record.

that is an improvement, since now it's only half the time. now once you remove your head from rafa's arse and leave Beast alone there, you might just see that neither are (were) yours!!!

Andres
05-29-2012, 11:25 AM
Makes sense, but what you haven't yet done is state what it is that differentiates OCD from autism, though that's really because you haven't yet defined what OCD is.

If Rafa does possess characteristics that are definitive of autism, only then can you state that he may really have it.

Otherwise, it becomes a more reasonable-sounding version of:

Santa Claus is a man
I am a man
Therefore I must be Santa Claus
I have OCD
I play tennis
I am a man
I am 28,
yet I am not Santa Claus
Therefore I must be Rafa Nadal.

skip1969
05-29-2012, 11:37 AM
I think its more of an issue of Nadal getting to 9 Roland Garros titles. Unlikely that he will retire with 9, unless he's explored all efforts to get the 10th, even if it means skipping the Australian Open, Indian Wells, Miami.
this post made me laugh. i thank you.

i do love how you know what nadal is gonna do in the future . . . even before he does. even about his scheduling. sheer awesomeness.

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 11:51 AM
this post made me laugh. i thank you.

i do love how you know what nadal is gonna do in the future . . . even before he does. even about his scheduling. sheer awesomeness.

So what will you say if Nadal wins 2012 Roland Garros? It will be his 7th. That is awfully close to 9. And he'll be favorite once again next year, going for his 8th. It's not like he's slipping. This year he won Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, all without dropping a set, and beat Djokovic twice.

skip1969
05-29-2012, 12:21 PM
So what will you say if Nadal wins 2012 Roland Garros? It will be his 7th. That is awfully close to 9. And he'll be favorite once again next year, going for his 8th. It's not like he's slipping. This year he won Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, all without dropping a set, and beat Djokovic twice.
all i am saying is that no one can predict the future. not even you. and that past successes don't guarantee future successes.

frinton
05-29-2012, 12:30 PM
a bit too far too see the future clearly! I would bet my money on Nadal to win this years RG, but I am still hoping for the pink shirt to do its magic ;-) in the long run it will be interesting to see, how long Rafa can keep his level upthere and win RG's again and again! let's hope for some great matches!

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 06:47 PM
a bit too far too see the future clearly! I would bet my money on Nadal to win this years RG, but I am still hoping for the pink shirt to do its magic ;-) in the long run it will be interesting to see, how long Rafa can keep his level upthere and win RG's again and again! let's hope for some great matches!

Yeah let's hope for some great 4-setters. Amazing how Nadal has only ever played one 5-setter at Roland Garros (Isner).

BlueClayIsRealClay
05-29-2012, 06:49 PM
don't seee Nadal winning anymore slams as long as Murray is around

sonicare
05-29-2012, 07:15 PM
He did not set the world on fire in 2011..

he did. Problem is djoker came with a ****ing fire extinguisher.

sonicare
05-29-2012, 07:22 PM
Meh. Only won 4 in a row. Fed has 5 in a row at 2 different slams.

Also. Fed the only guy in the history of our beloved sport to win a title on blue clay.

I repeat. He's won every single title and match ever played on blue clay.

The same cannot be said of nadal and red clay.

nadal_slam_king
05-29-2012, 07:29 PM
he did. Problem is djoker came with a ****ing fire extinguisher.

And Nadal estinguished that 9 month fire, this year in straight sets at Monte Carlo and Rome. Nadal leads 18-14 h2h and 5-3 h2h at the slams. Sorry, that's what happens when you only have one good year.

sonicare
05-29-2012, 07:41 PM
And Nadal estinguished that 9 month fire, this year in straight sets at Monte Carlo and Rome. Nadal leads 18-14 h2h and 5-3 h2h at the slams. Sorry, that's what happens when you only have one good year.

Lost at the big one tho. The Aussie open.