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nadal_slam_king
06-01-2012, 07:12 PM
So far Nadal has 2 (2008, 2010). Federer has 1 (2009). Djokovic not really in the same class so maybe not fair to compare, but he's ranked number one and has none.
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Tammo
06-01-2012, 07:20 PM
5 or maybe 6

papertank
06-01-2012, 07:23 PM
Whats a channel slam?

jm1980
06-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Whats a channel slam?

Something *******s invented so Nadal has more "accomplishments"

nadal_slam_king
06-01-2012, 07:28 PM
Whats a channel slam?

When you win Roland Garros and Wimbledon back-to-back. Nobody had done it since 1980 until Nadal did it in 2008. Then Federer did it in 2009. And Nadal again in 2010.

kishnabe
06-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Nadal won't ever do it again. It wasn't a weak era like 08 and 10!

nadal_slam_king
06-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Something *******s invented so Nadal has more "accomplishments"

Here is another accomplishment - Nadal won slams on clay, grass and hardcourt in 2010. No other man in world history has done that in a calendar year. Oh that's right, its not an accomplishment, because Federer could never do it.

kishnabe
06-01-2012, 07:42 PM
Here is another accomplishment - Nadal won slams on clay, grass and hardcourt in 2010. No other man in world history has done that in a calendar year. Oh that's right, its not an accomplishment, because Federer could never do it.

Yup great accomplishments....Though Federer has at least 10 times more accomplishements than Nadal has.

So who cares Nadal can have that.....there are plenty of thing Nadal will never emulate that Federer has acheived. Vice-Versa. No way Nadal will ever win 6 WTF, win 5 slams on two diff surfaces, or the number of cons week at Numero uno.

Federer won't ever touch 7 conscutive win a single tournament.

What the insecurity about then?

SStrikerR
06-01-2012, 07:42 PM
Here is another accomplishment - Nadal won slams on clay, grass and hardcourt in 2010. No other man in world history has done that in a calendar year. Oh that's right, its not an accomplishment, because Federer could never do it.

Who cares? Nadal can't even win on blue clay.


VERDASCO???

Clarky21
06-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Nadal has already won the only channel slams he will ever win,so 2 for him. Rolaids will eventually win at least 3 or 4of them. Not sure about Fed. It depends on if he can take Rolaids out or not in order to win more.

nadal_slam_king
06-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Yup great accomplishments....Though Federer has at least 10 times more accomplishements than Nadal has.

So who cares Nadal can have that.....there are plenty of thing Nadal will never emulate that Federer has acheived. Vice-Versa. No way Nadal will ever win 6 WTF, win 5 slams on two diff surfaces, or the number of cons week at Numero uno.

Federer won't ever touch 7 conscutive win a single tournament.

What the insecurity about then?

Federer 10 times more achievements? What the type that you win when you are 30? (Quarter final streaks?) :lol:

Nadal 81 consecutive wins on one surface. What is Federer's highest single-surface streak?

Nadal has won 2 titles 7 times each and one of them 8 straight times.

Nadal has won more Masters shields than anyone in history (21) and has many years of dominance left.

And this is a soon 26-year-old, on the verge of equaling the record for consecutive slam-winning years (Sampras, Federer, Borg have 8 straight years). Nadal will have 8 straight this year and obviously extend that to 10+ given his domination of Roland Garros (and continued contention at Wimbledon and the US Open.

Nadal tied the US Open record for fewest breaks, in 2010.

Nadal is the only man to win slams on clay, grass, hardcourt in a calendar year.

Nadal already has 102 weeks ranked number one and the record for weeks ranked number 2, and again still only 26 years old. Now with Djokovic the only rival, Nadal will finish with 200-300 weeks at number 1. His combined weeks at 1 and 2 will be astonishing.

The records he's achieved, at such a young age, and the fact he is still dominating clay (this year didn't drop a set at Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, for the first time in his career) is an ominous sign for Federer's hopes of keeping the total slams record.

And by winning Roland Garros, Nadal also has a huge chance at winning a slam title more times than Sampras' 7 Wimbledons.

And keep an eye on Nadal at Wimbledon. There are no contenders at the level of Nadal/Djokovic, and the last time Nadal lost before the Wimbledon final was 2005. Not to mention the fact he's made 2 straight US Open finals and is the 2nd favorite to win there.

Wolfman Jack
06-01-2012, 07:53 PM
Nadal won't ever do it again. It wasn't a weak era like 08 and 10!
Yeah, 08 was a weak era, then 09 suddenly was a strong era, and 10 became weak again. Then around 11 it seemed it was going to be a strong era, but in June it became clear it was a weak era again. LMFAO

Towser83
06-01-2012, 08:21 PM
Something *******s invented so Nadal has more "accomplishments"

The channel slam is one of the most laughable "achievements" in tennis. the only issue is winning 2 slams back to back without tiring. however, it can also be easier if your main rivals are in bad form around that time or you hit good form. in borg's day it was impressive but now grass plays too slow and the change in surface is nothing much to deal with. how many 3 continent slams will they all do? These can only be won by being consistent over 9 months as opposed to a mere 4. Federer has 3, djokovic 1, Nadal none. ;-) see how easy it is to invent stuff?

Here is another accomplishment - Nadal won slams on clay, grass and hardcourt in 2010. No other man in world history has done that in a calendar year. Oh that's right, its not an accomplishment, because Federer could never do it.

Winning 3 slams on 3 surfaces and a quarter final is almost as good as 3 slams on 3 surfaces and a 5 set final within 12 months like Federer did, yes. good point.

Nadal has already won the only channel slams he will ever win,so 2 for him. Rolaids will eventually win at least 3 or 4of them. Not sure about Fed. It depends on if he can take Rolaids out or not in order to win more.

ridiculous. even assuming Djokovic wins 6 to 8 more slams taking him to 11 to 13, the chances of him doing a channel slam every time is very low. but you probably think that he will win all 4 slams for the next 4 years lol.

Nadal already has 102 weeks ranked number one and the record for weeks ranked number 2, and again still only 26 years old.
Yeah i'm sure everyone would do anything for that record. well done you're second best. lol.

Clarky21
06-01-2012, 08:30 PM
The channel slam is one of the most laughable "achievements" in tennis. the only issue is winning 2 slams back to back without tiring. however, it can also be easier if your main rivals are in bad form around that time or you hit good form. in borg's day it was impressive but now grass plays too slow and the change in surface is nothing much to deal with. how many 3 continent slams will they all do? These can only be won by being consistent over 9 months as opposed to a mere 4. Federer has 3, djokovic 1, Nadal none. ;-) see how easy it is to invent stuff?



Winning 3 slams on 3 surfaces and a quarter final is almost as good as 3 slams on 3 surfaces and a 5 set final within 12 months like Federer did, yes. good point.



ridiculous. even assuming Djokovic wins 6 to 8 more slams taking him to 11 to 13, the chances of him doing a channel slam every time is very low. but you probably think that he will win all 4 slams for the next 4 years lol.

Yeah i'm sure everyone would do anything for that record. well done you're second best. lol.


Until he has some actual competition come along and dethrone him,I don't see how he won't mop up the slams for the next several years. Especially with the Hostess draws he keeps getting.

Towser83
06-01-2012, 08:35 PM
Until he has some actual competition come along and dethrone him,I don't see how he won't mop up the slams for the next several years. Especially with the Hostess draws he keeps getting.


Yeah how lucky he keeps drawing Federer whilst Nadal draws Murray who loses before the semi anyway... and upsets happen, soderling beating Nadal, berdych and tsonga beating Federer. there is no way Djokovic wins 3 channel slams. even if he wins 3 of each it won't be in the same year every time.

Sentinel
06-01-2012, 08:59 PM
Whats a channel slam?
Good question.

We need other combinations as well such as winning RG and MC in same year. MC and Barcelona. etc. Rafa has a huge number of achievements if looked objectively.

Wolfman Jack
06-01-2012, 09:03 PM
Good question.

We need other combinations as well such as winning RG and MC in same year. MC and Barcelona. etc. Rafa has a huge number of achievements if looked objectively.
Rafa is the Permutation Punisher.

Why stop at combinations?

TopFH
06-01-2012, 09:05 PM
Replying to a previous *** argument about Nadal having 102 weeks at No.1 at 26, let me say that Federer had 237 consecutive weeks at No.1 at 27. No way in hell Nadal etches that. Why? The calendar has only 52 weeks. Simple math:
A)102+52=154
B)237-154=83

This means Nadal would have to be No.1 for 135 more weeks, which total to No.1 for 2.5 years to reach. At 28 and 6 months.

abmk
06-01-2012, 09:06 PM
Nadal 84 consecutive wins on one surface.

81 and federer has the record on the other two surfaces ( grass and HC ) .. the grass one was over 6 years ... a longer period than rafa's on clay ...

Nadal has won 2 titles 7 times each and one of them 8 straight times.

and fed has won two slams, 5 times consecutively, wimbledon and USO, something your boy couldn't achieve even at one slam, his fav, RG ... :lol:

Nadal has won more Masters shields than anyone in history (21) and has many years of dominance left.

and zero YECs, fed has 6 ...

And this is a soon 26-year-old, on the verge of equaling the record for consecutive slam-winning years (Sampras, Federer, Borg have 7 straight years).

all 3 have 8 straight years ... nadal is on 7 right now ...

Nadal tied the US Open record for fewest breaks, in 2010.

LULZ, **** weak draw ... only player in decent form he faced was djoker and was obviously broken multiple times ( 3 times )

Nadal is the only man to win slams on clay, grass, hardcourt in a calendar year.

and yet has no year of winning % greater than 90 ( fed has 3 and djoker one ) ... ie no year where he was utterly dominant overall ...

fed's 3 majors+finals top nadal's 2010 where he had 3 majors+QF ... ditto for djoker's 3 majors+semi in 2011

Nadal already has 102 weeks ranked number one and the record for weeks ranked number 2, and again still only 26 years old.


ha ha, this is the funniest, am sure record no of weeks at no2 ( being second to fed and then to djoker ) is going to help his argument :)

The records he's achieved, at such a young age, and the fact he is still dominating clay (this year didn't drop a set at Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, for the first time in his career) is an ominous sign for Federer's hopes of keeping the total slams record.

And by winning Roland Garros, Nadal also has a huge chance at winning a slam title more times than Sampras' 7 Wimbledons.

And keep an eye on Nadal at Wimbledon. There are no contenders at the level of Nadal/Djokovic, and the last time Nadal lost before the Wimbledon final was 2005. Not to mention the fact he's made 2 straight US Open finals and is the 2nd favorite to win there.

what happens in the future remains to be seen ..

mcenroefan
06-01-2012, 10:21 PM
IMO, the AO, FO and Wimby have become relatively homogenized in terms of speed of play (through speed of surface and/or gimmmickry with the type of tennis balls used at the tournament) so the only remotely comparable accomplishment to the channel slam of the Borg era is the USO (the only remaining fast slam) and one of the other slams. Borg was uber-talented to pull it off in his day. Winning two of any of the following: AO, FO, or Wimby isn't comparable to Borg's FO-Wimby wins....not even close.

Wolfman Jack
06-02-2012, 12:10 AM
IMO, the AO, FO and Wimby have become relatively homogenized in terms of speed of play (through speed of surface and/or gimmmickry with the type of tennis balls used at the tournament) so the only remotely comparable accomplishment to the channel slam of the Borg era is the USO (the only remaining fast slam) and one of the other slams. Borg was uber-talented to pull it off in his day. Winning two of any of the following: AO, FO, or Wimby isn't comparable to Borg's FO-Wimby wins....not even close.
Wait, if all surfaces are so similar, how come Nadal does so much better in FO, and how come people that do relatively well in AO historically (like Murray) comparatively suck in Wimbledon? They just don't like the color of the surface?

Feather
06-02-2012, 12:11 AM
Replying to a previous *** argument about Nadal having 102 weeks at No.1 at 26, let me say that Federer had 237 consecutive weeks at No.1 at 27. No way in hell Nadal etches that. Why? The calendar has only 52 weeks. Simple math:
A)102+52=154
B)237-154=83

This means Nadal would have to be No.1 for 135 more weeks, which total to No.1 for 2.5 years to reach. At 28 and 6 months.

He doesn't think it's impossible for Rafa. He assumes Rafa will win ten grand slams in RG alone. He would be winning more Majors than Masters, so it's quite possible :wink:

Feather
06-02-2012, 12:13 AM
Yeah how lucky he keeps drawing Federer whilst Nadal draws Murray who loses before the semi anyway... and upsets happen, soderling beating Nadal, berdych and tsonga beating Federer. there is no way Djokovic wins 3 channel slams. even if he wins 3 of each it won't be in the same year every time.

That's hundred percent sure. It's too tough to imagine that he will win both thrice again, I mean both at the same year.

Feather
06-02-2012, 12:16 AM
Good question.

We need other combinations as well such as winning RG and MC in same year. MC and Barcelona. etc. Rafa has a huge number of achievements if looked objectively.

Very true, soon they will come back with interesting terms like Border slam, Spanish slam, Mediterranean slam etc to glorify Rafa :wink:

Wolfman Jack
06-02-2012, 12:24 AM
Very true, soon they will come back with interesting terms like Border slam, Spanish slam, Mediterranean slam etc to glorify Rafa :wink:
Glorify Rafa? What a silly comment. As if 10 slam titles and a golden career slam at age 24, plus all time record on Master's tournament titles needed any extra glorification.

Feather
06-02-2012, 12:28 AM
Glorify Rafa? What a silly comment. As if 10 slam titles and a golden career slam at age 24, plus all time record on Master's tournament titles needed any extra glorification.

I was only pointing out at the meaningless of the concept called "Channel slams". The OP posted this topic with the above intention only. If you don't think so, you can disagree with me. :)

Wolfman Jack
06-02-2012, 12:39 AM
I was only pointing out at the meaningless of the concept called "Channel slams". The OP posted this topic with the above intention only. If you don't think so, you can disagree with me. :)
But "Channel slam" is not a foreign concept that somebody pulled out of their butt. It has been known as a term in tennis circles for a long time, for no other reason that it is hard to achieve.

You can rant all you want about how the only difference between RG and Wimby is the color of the court (and the smell and composure of the local crowd,) but I maintain that the Channel Slam is an actual achievement, not easy to add to your curriculum.

Feather
06-02-2012, 12:44 AM
But "Channel slam" is not a foreign concept that somebody pulled out of their butt. It has been known as a term in tennis circles for a long time, for no other reason that it is hard to achieve.

You can rant all you want about how the only difference between RG and Wimby is the color of the court (and the smell and composure of the local crowd,) but I maintain that the Channel Slam is an actual achievement, not easy to add to your curriculum.

Prior to 2001, it WAS indeed an actual achievement.

Wolfman Jack
06-02-2012, 12:48 AM
Prior to 2001, it WAS indeed an actual achievement.
Yes, and winning slams was also a real achievement prior to 2001 as well, and due to the homogenization of the surfaces, anybody that has won slams since them should have a big fat asterisk by each one of them.

Regarding the Channel Slam, it's easy also to prove why it's not a real achievement: Nadal has more than Federer.

Which leads me to the fact that the Golden Career grand slam and the record number of wins in ATP Masters events are not really achievements (but figments of the collective ******* imagination.) :)

primetennis
06-02-2012, 12:53 AM
Federer 10 times more achievements? What the type that you win when you are 30? (Quarter final streaks?) :lol:

Nadal 84 consecutive wins on one surface.

Nadal has won 2 titles 7 times each and one of them 8 straight times.

Nadal has won more Masters shields than anyone in history (21) and has many years of dominance left.

And this is a soon 26-year-old, on the verge of equaling the record for consecutive slam-winning years (Sampras, Federer, Borg have 7 straight years).

Nadal tied the US Open record for fewest breaks, in 2010.

Nadal is the only man to win slams on clay, grass, hardcourt in a calendar year.

Nadal already has 102 weeks ranked number one and the record for weeks ranked number 2, and again still only 26 years old.

The records he's achieved, at such a young age, and the fact he is still dominating clay (this year didn't drop a set at Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, for the first time in his career) is an ominous sign for Federer's hopes of keeping the total slams record.

And by winning Roland Garros, Nadal also has a huge chance at winning a slam title more times than Sampras' 7 Wimbledons.

And keep an eye on Nadal at Wimbledon. There are no contenders at the level of Nadal/Djokovic, and the last time Nadal lost before the Wimbledon final was 2005. Not to mention the fact he's made 2 straight US Open finals and is the 2nd favorite to win there.

the only thing which matters is the number of grandslams you have won..if nadal ends up winning more than fed,which is impossible as he can't win anything other than the french anymore.. then talk..until then bye-bye...

egn
06-02-2012, 01:09 AM
Federer 10 times more achievements? What the type that you win when you are 30? (Quarter final streaks?) :lol:


Although not too impressive, a qf streak is still nice. Shows consistency..


Nadal 84 consecutive wins on one surface.

I'll agree that one is amazing


Nadal has won 2 titles 7 times each and one of them 8 straight times.


The Barcelona is not as impressive, but the Monte Carlo is really impressive.


Nadal has won more Masters shields than anyone in history (21) and has many years of dominance left.


Again impressive, sadly this one will always be diminished because "so many were on clay"...the stupid ******* logic there. Though the 'many years of dominance' I'm not sure sure about, he only managed one last year and hasn't won a master series title on hardcourts since 2009...things are looking a bit grim


And this is a soon 26-year-old, on the verge of equaling the record for consecutive slam-winning years (Sampras, Federer, Borg have 7 straight years).


Fed has 8...and Nadal has 7 right now, but yea he is about to tie it.



Nadal tied the US Open record for fewest breaks, in 2010.


could care less about that, a win is a win.


Nadal is the only man to win slams on clay, grass, hardcourt in a calendar year.


never noticed this one, I like.


Nadal already has 102 weeks ranked number one and the record for weeks ranked number 2, and again still only 26 years old.


Former, good. Latter, pointless. Nobody at the end of the day is going to care how long Nadal is ranked #2. Huge Nadal issue though is he has never been able to consistency dominate due to injuries and lack of sustained high level. Two year end #1s not back to back is going to hurt him.


The records he's achieved, at such a young age, and the fact he is still dominating clay (this year didn't drop a set at Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome, for the first time in his career) is an ominous sign for Federer's hopes of keeping the total slams record.


I don't know about that, Nadal isn't looking too much of a threat outside of clay as of late. Hasn't bested Djokovic on hardcourts, fell behind Djokovic on grass and we are not sure where he stands against the tour on grass (we will see). Nadal still can best Fed anywhere, but on hardcourts as of late other gus are pulling some tricks. Though he has been to the last two hardcourt major finals, he still can't seem to figure out Djokovic there, he came close in Australia, but close isn't good enough. Unless Nadal starts winning again off of clay he's going to need what 7 more French Opens...somehow I don't see that happening.

And by winning Roland Garros, Nadal also has a huge chance at winning a slam title more times than Sampras' 7 Wimbledons.

I almost feel like that is going to happen easily.


And keep an eye on Nadal at Wimbledon. There are no contenders at the level of Nadal/Djokovic, and the last time Nadal lost before the Wimbledon final was 2005. Not to mention the fact he's made 2 straight US Open finals and is the 2nd favorite to win there.

Wouldn't say he is the second favorite to win the US Open as of late. Last year Federer was definitely the better threat, drew Djokovic earlier and Nadal's fast hardcourt record as of late isn't amazing. If it wasn't for pushtastic Murray it would have been rougher for Nadal. I'd say at the US Open based I might still edge Fed a bit over Nadal, but again this is premature and I would like to wait until summer hardcourt season before making any conclusions. However it is safe to say Nadal is still a threat at all majors, because he is a fantastic big match player and in best of 5 he's an animal.

egn
06-02-2012, 01:09 AM
the only thing which matters is the number of grandslams you have won..if nadal ends up winning more than fed,which is impossible as he can't win anything other than the french anymore.. then talk..until then bye-bye...

The guy won 3 majors in a single season just in 2010..and ha sbeen to the last four major finals...a bit too premature eh?

Numenor
06-02-2012, 01:21 AM
Rafa: 100 trillion chunnel slams (enough to fill the Chunnel, causing a severance in communication between the UK and France)

Djoker/Fed: 0

This is before Rafa cures cancer, for those wondering.

6-1 6-3 6-0
07-18-2012, 05:31 AM
I think Federer won his only channel slam in 2009 (and hence it is his last). Nadal will likely win at least one more (he has already done it twice), whereas it would be a very big ask for Djokovic to do so (has never won Roland Garros).

Tafmatch
07-18-2012, 05:56 AM
Let me think.... 8!

6-1 6-3 6-0
07-18-2012, 05:57 AM
Let me think.... 8!

Who will win 8? Federer, Nadal and Djokovic collectively? If so, how many for each?

PSNELKE
07-18-2012, 06:02 AM
Bloody hell this is getting ridiculous.

This clown keeps bumping like 10 of his own threads each day.

Tafmatch
07-18-2012, 06:08 AM
Who will win 8? Federer, Nadal and Djokovic collectively? If so, how many for each?

Sorry, i'll be more specific. 6 9 4