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MG1
06-04-2012, 09:58 PM
As Wimbledon uses his own seeding system on the basis of past 2 yrs grass tournaments rslts.

I know there is formula to calculate ranking points but don't know exactly.

Roger performance in last 2 yrs. grass tournaments is not great and based on performance Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Berdych & Tsonga all are ahead of him so what would be the Roger seed at this year Wimbledon??

If it will be out of top 4 then draw could be tricky for him :(

Sid_Vicious
06-04-2012, 10:07 PM
Isn't the formula

(Ranking Points) + (Grass ranking points from last 12 months) + .75 (Grass ranking points from the season before) ?


I think Tsonga and Berdych are not going to overtake him. Impossible. They are both about 5000 ranking points behind Federer.

I think Murray can potentially replace him at number 3 if things work out for him

MG1
06-04-2012, 10:09 PM
Isn't the formula

(Ranking Points) + (Grass ranking points from last 12 months) + .75 (Grass ranking points from the season before) ?


I think Tsonga and Berdych are not going to overtake him. Impossible. They are both about 5000 ranking points behind Federer.

I think Murray can potentially replace him at number 3 if things work out for him

Does ranking points include???

I doubt that but not sure.

Sid_Vicious
06-04-2012, 10:12 PM
Does ranking points include???

I doubt that but not sure.

Like total ranking points that the player has. Ex. Federer currently has 9790 ranking points while Djokovic has 11,800.

jokinla
06-04-2012, 10:19 PM
He won't be out of the top 4, don't worry about it, and even if he was, they'd make up an excuse, perhaps the fact that he has won so much there, as to why he wasn't dropping out of the top 4.

merlinpinpin
06-04-2012, 10:26 PM
He'll be seeded #3, no suspense here. The only change I could possibly envision would be for him to win RG while Nadal gets defeated in the quarters by Almagro (and who is going to believe that? lol). In this case, he would be #2. Otherwise, #3 it is.

Edit: actually, he could probably end up seeded #4 should he lose to Del Potro and Murray wins RG--but who is going to believe *that*? ;)

joeri888
06-04-2012, 11:27 PM
Federer is no 3 or no 4, no doubt about that.

TennisLovaLova
06-04-2012, 11:34 PM
He should be seeded N1 each time he plays as a mark of respect of his superior tennis level.
He's the prince of tennis

roysid
06-05-2012, 12:26 AM
Hmmm.. Last 2 years Murray's grass court perf. is better no doubt. Winning at Queens, plus SF at Wimbledon whereas Fed didn't win Halle and QF at W.

Will this gap be enough to overtake Fed and be seeded #3. But even then, what diff does it make.

FedererDropShot
06-05-2012, 01:08 AM
He should be seeded N1 each time he plays as a mark of respect of his superior tennis level.
He's the prince of tennis

Ryoma Echizen.

Federer has also achieved the pinnacle of perfection?

Feather
06-05-2012, 01:45 AM
I hope he will become 2nd seed at RG. If Rafa loses in final, he will lose 800 points, that may help Roger

joeri888
06-05-2012, 01:51 AM
I hope he will become 2nd seed at RG. If Rafa loses in final, he will lose 800 points, that may help Roger

I dn't think you've seen Rafa play this week.

nadal_slam_king
06-05-2012, 01:51 AM
I wonder if Federer will finish his career with a 1st Round exit from Wimbledon. Federer has lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon, 3 times. It will represent him going full circle if he ends his career this way.

ark_28
06-05-2012, 01:55 AM
I think he will be seeded 3, but 3 or 4 is there any difference as far as the draw goes the reality is not really.

joeri888
06-05-2012, 01:58 AM
I wonder if Federer will finish his career with a 1st Round exit from Wimbledon. Federer has lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon, 3 times. It will represent him going full circle if he ends his career this way.

Why do you post this nonsense? He won his first Slam at Wimbledon, after losing his first Slam at Wimbledon, the year after a first round exit. Full circle would be to win Wimbledon, no? Then next year, 1st round ext.

Other full circle: He lost the Sydney Olympics, but won Mirka. Now maybe he wins in London, but loses Mirka?

Why do you only come up with garbage about Federer? There are a million full circles you can think of with Federer winning even more. He had 10 grandslams in 2010, it would be full circle if he had 100 in 2100.

nadal_slam_king
06-05-2012, 02:02 AM
Why do you post this nonsense? He won his first Slam at Wimbledon, after losing his first Slam at Wimbledon, the year after a first round exit. Full circle would be to win Wimbledon, no? Then next year, 1st round ext.

Other full circle: He lost the Sydney Olympics, but won Mirka. Now maybe he wins in London, but loses Mirka?

Why do you only come up with garbage about Federer? There are a million full circles you can think of with Federer winning even more. He had 10 grandslams in 2010, it would be full circle if he had 100 in 2100.

There is nothing wrong with retiring a loser. It's humbling, and being humble is good. Maybe a 1st Round exit at Wimbledon is just what Federer needs to achieve humility. There is no more appropriate circle than this.

Feather
06-05-2012, 02:06 AM
I wonder if Federer will finish his career with a 1st Round exit from Wimbledon. Federer has lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon, 3 times. It will represent him going full circle if he ends his career this way.

He has six Wimbledon titles. Something that Rafa will NOT achieve in this lifetime. Six titles in the hallowed grass of Wimbledon, IMPOSSIBLE for Rafa :)

joeri888
06-05-2012, 02:07 AM
There is nothing wrong with retiring a loser. It's humbling, and being humble is good. Maybe a 1st Round exit at Wimbledon is just what Federer needs to achieve humility. There is no more appropriate circle than this.

Yeah, Nadal busting his knees might be humbling too, and it would be full circle in many ways. Maybe 10 MTO's in his last match as well. Geez, what is wrong with you. Would it be so bad for tennis if the current holder of probably the most important record in the modern tennisgame, goes out on a high?>

Feather
06-05-2012, 02:07 AM
I dn't think you've seen Rafa play this week.

I said I hope :)

nadal_slam_king
06-05-2012, 02:08 AM
He has six Wimbledon titles. Something that Rafa will NOT achieve in this lifetime. Six titles in the hallowed grass of Wimbledon, IMPOSSIBLE for Rafa :)

I estimate Nadal to finish with 5 Wimbledon titles (this year I think will be his 3rd). So you are probably right.

joeri888
06-05-2012, 02:10 AM
I said I hope :)

Yeah, I don't think you have seen Rafa ;)

I would hope so too if I still thought the situation wasn't hopelessly Nadalized.

Feather
06-05-2012, 02:12 AM
I estimate Nadal to finish with 5 Wimbledon titles (this year I think will be his 3rd). So you are probably right.

Five Wimbledon titles for Rafa, lolz how delusional you are.

nadal_slam_king
06-05-2012, 02:18 AM
Five Wimbledon titles for Rafa, lolz how delusional you are.

This year makes it 3, and right at the peak of his career, so good luck with your prayers.

Feather
06-05-2012, 02:22 AM
This year makes it 3, and right at the peak of his career, so good luck with your prayers.

Like last year, once the clay season was over, next title was in MC 2012. I wonder who needs good luck with the prayers :)

PrinceMoron
06-05-2012, 02:32 AM
Yeah, I don't think you have seen Rafa ;)

He just walked past Place des Mouses, well kind of jogged really. Looking good. Think he will lose the rest of his hair before he loses here.

TennisLovaLova
06-05-2012, 02:40 AM
I wonder if Federer will finish his career with a 1st Round exit from Wimbledon. Federer has lost in the 1st Round of Wimbledon, 3 times. It will represent him going full circle if he ends his career this way.

I think you're a decepticon
seriously

10is
06-05-2012, 09:12 AM
I think you're a decepticon
seriously

DUH! Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B5u6g3PupI

It all makes sense!!!