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Defcon
06-28-2012, 09:17 PM
No plan B, never had one, doesn't have the talent or mentality.

Amazing fighting spirit, defense and he never gives up, but he is totally helpless against big hitters who are in the zone and don't self destruct.

He keeps getting more defensive hoping for errors, or goes for too much and misses, since he doesn't like to attack and cannot shorten points. He is always going to be vulnerable in this kind of match and its pretty one sided too.

New Era
06-28-2012, 09:21 PM
Hi. This was a one off - and although he fought his game just wasn't there tonight. After winning his 11th Slam and having the great year he has had - its surprising .... But maybe that drive isn't there anymore and as he said , it's only a tennis match. Expect him to learn and come back stronger

ViscaB
06-28-2012, 09:24 PM
He knows and every tennis fan knows that he can play better. There are hours of Rafa on youtube where he is on song on grass.

Defcon
06-28-2012, 09:24 PM
Its rare but it happens - and his defeats by e.g. Soderling, and the many many close calls he's had, all follow the same pattern.

What makes Nadal amazing is his speed, defense and mental toughness allow him to weather the storm and win in the end. But this doesn't change the fact that his game has that weakness.

It's all relative of course.

Mustard
06-28-2012, 09:24 PM
Nadal lost because his opponent played excellent while Nadal's own movement was sluggish on the grass courts.

t135
06-28-2012, 09:29 PM
No doubt, that guy played out of his mind. And on grass. Anyone would have been scrambling to play defense against that guy today. You fellas should know enough about tennis to recognize what happened.

TMF
06-28-2012, 09:36 PM
Nadal lost because his opponent played excellent while Nadal's own movement was sluggish on the grass courts.

He just turned 26, not that he's an old man.

No one was said anything wrong about his movement during the clay and that because he won. But now that he just lost it's the same excuse again.

formula16
06-28-2012, 09:40 PM
when people say, well rosol just hit rafa off the court, doesnt rafa have to adjust to this? we see that federer and even djokovic rarely gets "hit off the court", because they are more aggressive than nadal.

The stand 5m behind baseline trick only gets you so far. If you play aggressive, you take the game away from your opponents hands. I'm sure nadals got the tools to play aggressive, question is why not?

prosealster
06-28-2012, 09:41 PM
nad is always suspect during 1st week of wimby when the court is softer, and bounce lower, if he survives that, he is hard to beat during the 2nd week...

JustBob
06-28-2012, 09:44 PM
Well there's a reason why he never won the WTF. Fast(er) court + attacker/big hitter rob Nadal of time so he can't grind it out and his loopy groundstrokes often fall short and get killed for winners.

ViscaB
06-28-2012, 09:45 PM
Nadal lost because his opponent played excellent while Nadal's own movement was sluggish on the grass courts.

He had issues with his movement and slipped a lot. Not sure if he had the right shoes for the slippery soil even.

SwankPeRFection
06-28-2012, 09:51 PM
If anything, this match should have shown both Fed and most notably (because he's capable of playing like this) Novak what Rafa's weakness is. Seems if you can attack the crap out of the guy's serve and smacking it back, he can't recover. What the problem with this way of playing is that it's a razor's edge. You have to play just hard enough to hit the big winners and then not go too much over the top and not back off too much either. This is basically what Novak did with that winner return against Fed last year to defend at match point. It takes your opponent by so much surprise they have this thought that it was probably just luck. Then they do it again and you immediately realize you're about to get screwed and you start thinking too much. Then you lose...

ViscaB
06-28-2012, 09:56 PM
If anything, this match should have shown both Fed and most notably (because he's capable of playing like this) Novak what Rafa's weakness is. Seems if you can attack the crap out of the guy's serve and smacking it back, he can't recover. What the problem with this way of playing is that it's a razor's edge. You have to play just hard enough to hit the big winners and then not go too much over the top and not back off too much either.

That's what Rafa brings to the table. You have to play a risky game to beat him. It's hard to sustain successful risk taking tennis for 5 sets.

JustBob
06-28-2012, 09:56 PM
Djokovic, when at his best, doesn't have to play like that because he can outgrind Nadal. Other players can't do that.

ViscaB
06-28-2012, 09:58 PM
Djokovic, when at his best, doesn't have to play like that because he can outgrind Nadal. Other players can't do that.

That's only a recent development. But on clay Nadal still out-grinds Djokovic. And in Australia it was a close encounter as well.

Magnetite
06-28-2012, 10:24 PM
Nadal got beaten up in the fifth. The guy just trampled all over Nadal and stole his lunch money.

Sentinel
06-28-2012, 10:35 PM
Does that make Fed one-dim, too, since he couldn't handle Tsonga or Derbych in previous WO's ?

rkelley
06-28-2012, 10:40 PM
Nadal lost one match. He's human and couldn't come up with the goods today. Rosol's a 6'5" guy with a huge serve and big groundies, playing out of his mind. A guy like that is always dangerous, especially on grass, and in the zone can beat anyone on a given day regardless of where he's ranked.

primetennis
06-28-2012, 11:16 PM
Hi. This was a one off - and although he fought his game just wasn't there tonight. After winning his 11th Slam and having the great year he has had - its surprising .... But maybe that drive isn't there anymore and as he said , it's only a tennis match. Expect him to learn and come back stronger

great year??just great clay season..i have said it before n m saying it again..he is not gonna win anymore titles this yr and he is not gonna win any major titles at all outside clay anymore..wud be better if he just plays in the clay season every yr from now on..we all know that he doesn't have class and if there were any doubters about his character and were thinking that he is humble..even they got to know yesterday how he really is..

ViscaB
06-28-2012, 11:57 PM
great year??just great clay season..i have said it before n m saying it again..he is not gonna win anymore titles this yr and he is not gonna win any major titles at all outside clay anymore..wud be better if he just plays in the clay season every yr from now on..we all know that he doesn't have class and if there were any doubters about his character and were thinking that he is humble..even they got to know yesterday how he really is..

He was in the final of the AO, won some tourneys for the 8th time and claimed his beloved RG. It's still a great year by any measure even if he goes on to lose everything now.

Frying Pan Forehand
06-29-2012, 12:10 AM
He was in the final of the AO, won some tourneys for the 8th time and claimed his beloved RG. It's still a great year by any measure even if he goes on to lose everything now.

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primetennis
06-29-2012, 12:37 AM
He was in the final of the AO, won some tourneys for the 8th time and claimed his beloved RG. It's still a great year by any measure even if he goes on to lose everything now.

ya would be a great year for him given his current standard of play:lol:

tank_job
06-29-2012, 12:49 AM
You guys better like your Nadal/Djokovic GS finals, cuz - this freak Rosol aside, that's ALL you're getting for the next decade.