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Devilito
07-01-2012, 08:53 AM
Wimbledon is nothing more than another avenue for entertainment. When you offer entertainment it makes sense to do so at a time when the majority of people have time off from the most common type of work which is Monday – Friday 8pm-5pm. For such an event that only occurs once/year does it make an ounce of sense to not be playing matches on Sunday? The biggest and most important days of the tournament should be Saturday and Sunday. Heck, take Monday off. Any other day of the week would be better to take off then Sunday. This is 2012 not 1012. Get with the program!

SwankPeRFection
07-01-2012, 08:54 AM
Bible thumpers, nothing more.

Frying Pan Forehand
07-01-2012, 08:55 AM
Wimbledon is nothing more than another avenue for entertainment. When you offer entertainment it makes sense to do so at a time when the majority of people have time off from the most common type of work which is Monday – Friday 8pm-5pm. For such an event that only occurs once/year does it make an ounce of sense to not be playing matches on Sunday? The biggest and most important days of the tournament should be Saturday and Sunday. Heck, take Monday off. Any other day of the week would be better to take off then Sunday. This is 2012 not 1012. Get with the program!

from what i heard they are playing near residential area and they need to keep quiet on sunday.

bhallic24
07-01-2012, 08:55 AM
Wimbledon is nothing more than another avenue for entertainment. When you offer entertainment it makes sense to do so at a time when the majority of people have time off from the most common type of work which is Monday – Friday 8pm-5pm. For such an event that only occurs once/year does it make an ounce of sense to not be playing matches on Sunday? The biggest and most important days of the tournament should be Saturday and Sunday. Heck, take Monday off. Any other day of the week would be better to take off then Sunday. This is 2012 not 1012. Get with the program!

respect. i agree take monday off. It's a good idea.

FACT: The highest proportion of heart attacks during the week, happen on Mondays.

SwankPeRFection
07-01-2012, 08:56 AM
Oh, and curfew at 11PM... WTF is that? Don't they know tennis is more important than religion and should be going on 24/7? :lol:

Devilito
07-01-2012, 08:59 AM
from what i heard they are playing near residential area and they need to keep quiet on sunday.

lol it's 2 weeks / year. Not year round. And play on Sunday would be 1 day then 1 more for the final. Same thing goes with playing past 11pm. Who cares. Yes i can understand if it's year round and it's difficult for residents to live that way. But for 1 or 2 days when you might need to extent play later, BIG DEAL. People just lack the ability to be rational and logical (not you but the whole thing surrounding Wimbledon)

SwankPeRFection
07-01-2012, 09:02 AM
I'd hate to live in Britain.... you can't have guns, you can't be out after 11PM.... boring.

Devilito
07-01-2012, 09:02 AM
Bible thumpers, nothing more.

i respect people's religion but we're talking about an entertainment event that's put together to help others relax, have fun and enjoy their day off. I mean do they need the blessing from the Pope so they don't go to hell? Apparently they go to hell for playing the 1st Sunday but the 2nd Sunday is ok with God? It's not like they're working coal mines every Sunday of the year

Frying Pan Forehand
07-01-2012, 09:03 AM
lol it's 2 weeks / year. Not year round. And play on Sunday would be 1 day then 1 more for the final. Same thing goes with playing past 11pm. Who cares. Yes i can understand if it's year round and it's difficult for residents to live that way. But for 1 or 2 days when you might need to extent play later, BIG DEAL. People just lack the ability to be rational and logical (not you but the whole thing surrounding Wimbledon)

they are british.

BeHappy
07-01-2012, 09:07 AM
Ladies day is the worst. Watching unathletic fat half men play tennis badly.

That wasn't the case 6 years ago when all the great women players were still around (henin, Mauresmo, Venus was still fit, Ivanovic was good, Jankovic was good etc etc). Nowadays it's Kivitova versus Wozniaki...

OldFedIsOld
07-01-2012, 09:10 AM
I'd hate to live in Britain.... you can't have guns, you can't be out after 11PM.... boring.

Try living in the glorious nation of North Korea, you can't access the internet after a certain time. Also you can't use a computer unless it's connected to a government monitored network, e.g. internet cafe.

Larrysümmers
07-01-2012, 09:11 AM
FPF said it the best. Brits are very peculiar.

Devilito
07-01-2012, 09:12 AM
Try living in the glorious nation of North Korea, you can't access the internet after a certain time. Also you can't use a computer unless it's connected to a government monitored network, e.g. internet cafe.

wouldn't be an issue. I'd just kill myself

Larrysümmers
07-01-2012, 09:12 AM
Try living in the glorious nation of North Korea, you can't access the internet after a certain time. Also you can't use a computer unless it's connected to a government monitored network, e.g. internet cafe.

id be shot. "all you do is look at internet porn and talk tennis, you have no value to society, you die now!"

Bartelby
07-01-2012, 09:13 AM
As the song goes, 'never on a sunday, a sunday, cause that's my day of rest'.

Devilito
07-01-2012, 09:16 AM
As the song goes, 'never on a sunday, a sunday, cause that's my day of rest'.

never on a Sunday except the 2nd Sunday?

SwankPeRFection
07-01-2012, 09:22 AM
never on a Sunday except the 2nd Sunday?

And that's why they're hipocrits.

Larrysümmers
07-01-2012, 09:26 AM
to be truthful though i dont really mind there not being play on the middle sunday. although let's say Murray wouldnt have won in the knick of time, then id have to say play them on the middle sunday. i mean isnt the whole point of tradition evolving?

slice bh compliment
07-01-2012, 09:27 AM
I'd hate to live in Britain.... you can't have guns, you can't be out after 11PM.... boring.

I like to party after midnight with guns, too. Those who don't are on a slippery slope! Hey...Plaxico, is that you?

i respect people's religion but we're talking about an entertainment event that's put together to help others relax, have fun and enjoy their day off. I mean do they need the blessing from the Pope so they don't go to hell? Apparently they go to hell for playing the 1st Sunday but the 2nd Sunday is ok with God? It's not like they're working coal mines every Sunday of the year

I would love to see some matches today, but am enjoying a relaxing day off and I feel entertained without middle Sunday play. I'm heading out for some tennis right now. This has nothing to do with God. It's about 'religion' and 'tradition'. And being dogmatic. Heck, Sunday is not even the actual Sabbath.

Ladies day is the worst. Watching unathletic fat half men play tennis badly.


Remind me not to invite you to my club during the day.

jdubbs
07-01-2012, 09:28 AM
I also love that places are closed or close super early on Sundays.
Want to get your clothes drycleaned? Get a haircut? Nope. Its Sunday.
Seriously, we have a day where i dont have to work...and your business is geared towards consumers, and its a tough economy. Keep your shop open...good grief. Hire somebody to work it who could use the money.
And yeah, Ive got a whole day to watch tennis, but cant because its better to wait until Mon when I have to work. Im sure my boss wont mind.

Bartelby
07-01-2012, 09:30 AM
Well, in the song, the singer was a prostitute - female of course - and that don't play on Sunday - the WTA, that is.



never on a Sunday except the 2nd Sunday?

Mick
07-01-2012, 09:33 AM
No tennis on Sunday is not a problem for me. My problem is I don't know which channel to record when play continues next week since both ESPN and ESPN2 will broadcast the matches at the same time on different courts :confused:


Monday, July 2
8:00 am - 3:00 pm
Fourth round-Centre Court
ESPN[Live]
7:00 am - 5:00 pm
Fourth round-Courts 1 & 2, and Outer courts
ESPN2[Live]

Tuesday, July 3
8:00 am - 1:00 pm
Women's Quarterfinals-Centre Court
ESPN[Live]
7:00 am - 4:00 pm
Women's Quarterfinals-Courts 1 & 2
ESPN2[Live]

Wednesday, July 4
8:00 am - 3:00 pm
Men's Quarterfinals-Centre Court
ESPN[Live]
7:00 am - 4:00 pm
Men's Quarterfinals-Courts 1 & 2
ESPN2[Live]

Jay_The_Nomad
07-01-2012, 09:45 AM
Oh, and curfew at 11PM... WTF is that? Don't they know tennis is more important than religion and should be going on 24/7? :lol:

Isn't tennis a religion to some people?

Magnetite
07-01-2012, 09:51 AM
I thought they used the first Sunday to work on the courts and help rejuvenate them for the second week?

jdubbs
07-01-2012, 09:52 AM
No tennis on Sunday is not a problem for me. My problem is I don't know which channel to record when play continues next week since both ESPN and ESPN2 will broadcast the matches at the same time on different courts :confused:


Monday, July 2
8:00 am - 3:00 pm
Fourth round-Centre Court
ESPN[Live]
7:00 am - 5:00 pm
Fourth round-Courts 1 & 2, and Outer courts
ESPN2[Live]

Tuesday, July 3
8:00 am - 1:00 pm
Women's Quarterfinals-Centre Court
ESPN[Live]
7:00 am - 4:00 pm
Women's Quarterfinals-Courts 1 & 2
ESPN2[Live]

Wednesday, July 4
8:00 am - 3:00 pm
Men's Quarterfinals-Centre Court
ESPN[Live]
7:00 am - 4:00 pm
Men's Quarterfinals-Courts 1 & 2
ESPN2[Live]

Cant you record 2 channels at the same time?

mcenroefan
07-01-2012, 09:56 AM
I don't like it but it's their tourney....just like it's their $20 million roof and they will close it when they want to close it, notwithstanding complaints from the players.

Spin Doctor
07-01-2012, 10:01 AM
I have to agree with the OP. I haven't been able to watch at all during the last week. I finally have a nice chill day to watch tennis and....nothing. And what about all the fans that could attend the venue on their day off? This is one tradition I would like to see kiboshed.

As for it being about "religion", don't make me laugh. The Brits are not exactly pious. This is all about rigid adherence to tradition just for the sake of tradition, despite logic and rational judgment indicating a better course of action.

Mick
07-01-2012, 10:05 AM
Cant you record 2 channels at the same time?

nope. i only have a dvd recorder and it could only record one channel at a time :(

Praetorian
07-01-2012, 10:08 AM
Their tournament, their rules. They lose some of you as an audience, wouldn't make a dent in their revenue. Don't like it, don't watch or support it. Make your own tournament. Besides, I know many of shop in the US, Canada, etc. that don't open on Sundays, because the revenue<expenses. Deal with it.

tennisenthusiast
07-01-2012, 10:30 AM
Tradition is tradition. We got to respect that. We have to be thankful that Wimbledon exists.

darrinbaker00
07-01-2012, 01:32 PM
Wimbledon is nothing more than another avenue for entertainment. When you offer entertainment it makes sense to do so at a time when the majority of people have time off from the most common type of work which is Monday – Friday 8pm-5pm. For such an event that only occurs once/year does it make an ounce of sense to not be playing matches on Sunday? The biggest and most important days of the tournament should be Saturday and Sunday. Heck, take Monday off. Any other day of the week would be better to take off then Sunday. This is 2012 not 1012. Get with the program!

Go to church. Read a book. Pick up a racquet and go play. Deflate your "girlfriend" and talk to a real woman. The All-England Club will not schedule play on the first Sunday unless they're backed up due to rain. DEAL WITH IT.

darrinbaker00
07-01-2012, 01:36 PM
lol it's 2 weeks / year. Not year round. And play on Sunday would be 1 day then 1 more for the final. Same thing goes with playing past 11pm. Who cares. Yes i can understand if it's year round and it's difficult for residents to live that way. But for 1 or 2 days when you might need to extent play later, BIG DEAL. People just lack the ability to be rational and logical (not you but the whole thing surrounding Wimbledon)

As has been the case since we've been here, and as will be the case until the last of us is gone. Once again, DEAL WITH IT.

Narcissist
07-01-2012, 01:43 PM
The 11pm rule etc. is nothing to do with being British and everything to do with the fact the place is right in a residential area of London. Pretty sure it is nothing to do with religion either given the men's final is on a Sunday.

Having an extra day as contingency given the weather we have here is just common sense.

El Diablo
07-01-2012, 01:52 PM
It's about tradition and civility, Brits feeling there should be a day of rest for everyone in the middle of a busy two weeks. Nothing wrong with that. The people at Wimbledon should "get with the program"??? No, the OP should grow up and learn to be tolerant of other people's traditions.

Moose Malloy
07-01-2012, 04:42 PM
The first time they held a men's final on a Sunday was in 1982, not that long ago. So for almost a hundred years Wimbledon never had any play on any Sunday. I think that says quite a bit about the religious nature of the country.

The All-England Club will not schedule play on the first Sunday unless they're backed up due to rain

I can probably come up with 20 matches over the years that were held over from Sat until Monday, due to this silly 'no play on Sunday' rule. They only had play on the middle Sunday 3 times in their history - '91, '97, '04.

Mustard
07-01-2012, 05:11 PM
Tradition is tradition. We got to respect that. We have to be thankful that Wimbledon exists.

Roscoe Tanner blew one tradition out of the water in 1979, the tradition that the first point of the Wimbledon final had to start at 2:00pm sharp. Since 1980, 2:00pm is when the players come on to the court.

Bobby Jr
07-01-2012, 05:21 PM
This is 2012 not 1012. Get with the program!
I imagine there is a court maintenance benefit to the day off which hard to avoid. 36 hours vs 12-16 hours...

woodrow1029
07-01-2012, 05:32 PM
10char.......

Spin Doctor
07-01-2012, 05:53 PM
Oh yes, "tradition". The byword for those incapable of critical thinking. Let's have a look at some other traditions at Wimbledon (AKA the All England Lawn & Tennis Club):

-not allowing any black tennis player to play there prior to 1951

-no Jewish tennis player being able to claim it as their home until 1952.

-requiring players to degrade themselves by curtsying/bowing to a useless royal family until 2003,

(Source: wikipedia)

Sorry I refuse to respect "tradition" when it is illogical/racist/stupid etc etc.

Wimbledon has changed many things over the years, not just the items cited above. Playing on the middle Sunday doesn't affect the prestige of the tournament at all.

And yes, we are allowed to complain about it. Half of this forum is a complaint about something or other.

pame
07-01-2012, 06:27 PM
If you feel so strongly about the "wrongness" of the agreement between the local council and Wimbledon management not to play on middle Sunday, maybe you guys who disagree could get together and offer to fund and sponsor the tournament elsewhere:|

and isn't finishing by 11 pm something to do with the Health and Safety regulations and the fact that buses and the tube stop running around 11 pm and therefore a ton of people wouldn't be able to get home?

rommil
07-01-2012, 06:32 PM
Watching unathletic fat half men play tennis badly.
..

I was about to think this was a description of the Nadal fan base then I remembered they don't play tennis:)

mary fierce
07-01-2012, 06:38 PM
Spin Doctor
fortunately, taking a Sunday off is neither racist, stupid nor illogical, so it's a custom you can get with. What is your occupation? Do you do it 14 consecutive full days without a break? Me neither.

JustBob
07-01-2012, 07:01 PM
We need a new tradition:

No silly judgmental whining on the internet on Sundays.

That would give the rest of us a well deserved break.

big_bill
07-01-2012, 07:24 PM
I have no problem with no play on Sunday, but get a roof on court 1 and lights on a few other courts. Tradition is good but sport must also move forward with the times.

TeflonTom
07-01-2012, 08:06 PM
they take a day off in the middle mostly cos with grass courts u gotta have wiggle room if they have rain during the 1st wk (n come on, its england, u gonna have rain most wks). u have so many matches in 1st wk that u wld be screwed w/o the time to catch up

sunday makes sense coz its after finish of 3rd rnd. most players can go home

if u made it on mon then u wld have to play all the 4th rnd on sun, so half the players wld have 2 singles matches in 2 days n the other half wouldnt. big disadvantage so early in the tourney

plus u would have 1st rnd of boys n girls comps on sun, then a day break b4 resuming. players gotta all arrive a day earlier for no reason

forget tradition, god, etc. sunday break makes sense

rommil
07-02-2012, 11:03 AM
Middle Sunday is off to give other players an option to join Waffa in fishing:)

Max G.
07-02-2012, 12:24 PM
A lot of those things are because it's in a residential area.

Seriously, look at it from the perspective of someone who just happens to live in the area, and does not play or watch tennis. On a weekday, such a person probably wants all the crowds to shut up and leave at a reasonable hour, so they can get to sleep and go to work the next morning. They probably want at least a day or so in the middle of this tournament where there aren't any crowds around.

It's not about the people playing tennis, or about the tennis fans. It's about the people who are neither one of those, but have to deal with the fallout of a huge tennis tournament taking place in their backyard.

Mustard
07-02-2012, 12:58 PM
New York and Melbourne have no problems with late night crowds. They go to work too.

Max G.
07-02-2012, 01:51 PM
Well, clearly the people around the grounds disagree!

I went online and looked at Google street view, a few blocks from all of those places. Wimbledon appears a good deal more suburban than those other two.

skip1969
07-02-2012, 05:38 PM
seriously, i wonder about some of the people on this board. do a little homework and research if you're gonna complain about something or you're trying to come up with a 'better' solution.

the area is quite residential. and 'suburban', though that is a relative term. events or teams that have been around for a long time usually outgrow their original stadia and move where they are able to expand. you only need to look at the aussie and us opens for examples.

wimbledon is still in their original digs. and you could say that they have outgrown that neighborhood for a while now. it's both a blessing and a burden to have the tourney at aeltc. and it certainly has a bunch of logistical problems that bigger, more modern venues with much more acreage don't have to worry about.

there are transport issues (late night and weekend). there are issues with the council and the residential nature of the borough. and anyone with half a brain knows that co-operating with the local government and getting the residents on your side is a whole lot better than p*ssing them off if you want to get things done.

Loose Cannon
07-02-2012, 05:39 PM
Oh yes, "tradition". The byword for those incapable of critical thinking. Let's have a look at some other traditions at Wimbledon (AKA the All England Lawn & Tennis Club):

-not allowing any black tennis player to play there prior to 1951

-no Jewish tennis player being able to claim it as their home until 1952.

players to degrade themselves by curtsying/bowing to a useless royal family until 2003,-requiring

(Source: wikipedia)

Sorry I refuse to respect "tradition" when it is illogical/racist/stupid etc etc.



Never Understood thiis either. Always comes off as awkward and uncomfortable......and pointless. Who the hell are they.....in the grand scheme of things....and why would us Americans care.....they are insignificant.....