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PrinceMoron
09-12-2012, 02:50 AM
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'As the court was being prepared around him for the presentation ceremony, Murray could be seen saying, "I don't have it, I don't have it."

The "it" that he was referring to was his watch. Not a present from a loved one with much sentimental value, but a $2,000 (1,250) designer watch, provided courtesy of his sponsor Rado.

The watch is actually worth much more to Murray, as part of a multi-million dollar deal with the Swiss watch maker, so it was probably to the relief of both player and sponsor that he found it in time to receive his silverware.'

Murray is becoming the consummate pro. Worked very hard to get where he is, now the spoils of war go the the winner.

Accounts for his personal company show he made 6.4m in sponsorship, merchandising and appearance fees over the preceding 12 months. As well as Rado, whose watch the 25-year-old hurriedly strapped on before lifting the trophy, Murray is sponsored by Adidas, tennis equipment manufacturer Head, car-maker Jaguar, and RBS.

I liked the fact Federer swapped his silver Rolex for a gold one at WO to match the trophy. THAT really is being the consummate professional.

http://www.watchalyzer.com/wp-content/gallery/roger-federer/federer-rolex-wimbledon-2012-winner.jpg

robbo1970
09-12-2012, 03:27 AM
Yes I spotted that too. The look of panic on his face.

Its amazing how these sponsorship contracts work.

jokinla
09-12-2012, 08:28 AM
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'As the court was being prepared around him for the presentation ceremony, Murray could be seen saying, "I don't have it, I don't have it."

The "it" that he was referring to was his watch. Not a present from a loved one with much sentimental value, but a $2,000 (1,250) designer watch, provided courtesy of his sponsor Rado.

The watch is actually worth much more to Murray, as part of a multi-million dollar deal with the Swiss watch maker, so it was probably to the relief of both player and sponsor that he found it in time to receive his silverware.'

Murray is becoming the consummate pro. Worked very hard to get where he is, now the spoils of war go the the winner.

Accounts for his personal company show he made 6.4m in sponsorship, merchandising and appearance fees over the preceding 12 months. As well as Rado, whose watch the 25-year-old hurriedly strapped on before lifting the trophy, Murray is sponsored by Adidas, tennis equipment manufacturer Head, car-maker Jaguar, and RBS.

I liked the fact Federer swapped his silver Rolex for a gold one at WO to match the trophy. THAT really is being the consummate professional.

http://www.watchalyzer.com/wp-content/gallery/roger-federer/federer-rolex-wimbledon-2012-winner.jpg

His watch maker doesn't have something a little more high end, $2,000 isn't that much for a watch, you've got Rafa's silly 500k watch, and of course Fed's Rolex's are way up there too.

sargeinaz
09-12-2012, 08:53 AM
^^ Maybe that's the point, so if normal human beings see it and like it, they can afford it more than Rogers Rolex or Nadals Mille.

Sentinel
09-12-2012, 09:03 AM
He was looking for his OG Gold Medal he wanted to wear it at the ceremony. He carries it around everywhere and wears it whenever anyone wants to take a pic of him with their kids or asks for an autograph.

I believe during the match he was asking for a peanut butter and jelly samwich.

jokinla
09-12-2012, 10:40 AM
^^ Maybe that's the point, so if normal human beings see it and like it, they can afford it more than Rogers Rolex or Nadals Mille.

Well normal human beings really don't need a watch do they, who doesn't have a cell phone, which comes with a free watch. And if you are going to spend 2,000 on one, which is stupid to me, then you clearly are doing it just for the status of it, and if you fall into that boat, then you are going to want the 10000 or 20000, etc.

NikeWilson
09-12-2012, 10:47 AM
No one can afford those damn watches anyway.

jonnythan
09-12-2012, 10:48 AM
Watches are just jewelry for men. No one complains that earrings or necklaces are dumb because "normaly human beings don't really need them."

Besides, watches are actually convenient. I don't always have my cell phone and it's a lot faster to glance at my wrist then take my phone out. It's also much less obnoxious in social settings.

And the watch companies don't expect you to spend half a mil on Nadal's watch. But if Nadal wears their watch, normal people will want the cheaper models.

It's just jewelry advertising.

NJ1
09-12-2012, 10:52 AM
Well normal human beings really don't need a watch do they, who doesn't have a cell phone, which comes with a free watch. And if you are going to spend 2,000 on one, which is stupid to me, then you clearly are doing it just for the status of it, and if you fall into that boat, then you are going to want the 10000 or 20000, etc.

I really don't see how owning an expensive watch is stupid. I have a steel white face Daytona that is worth more now than when bought three years ago. It hasn't gone up by much as it's not particularly rare or expensive , but how many other things can you use and wear on a daily basis that appreciate rather than depreciate?

jokinla
09-12-2012, 10:57 AM
Watches are just jewelry for men. No one complains that earrings or necklaces are dumb because "normaly human beings don't really need them."

Besides, watches are actually convenient. I don't always have my cell phone and it's a lot faster to glance at my wrist then take my phone out. It's also much less obnoxious in social settings.

And the watch companies don't expect you to spend half a mil on Nadal's watch. But if Nadal wears their watch, normal people will want the cheaper models.

It's just jewelry advertising.

That was the reason I asked about their other models, if they are paying Murray to advertise, you'd think it'd be a high end model.

jokinla
09-12-2012, 11:12 AM
I really don't see how owning an expensive watch is stupid. I have a steel white face Daytona that is worth more now than when bought three years ago. It hasn't gone up by much as it's not particularly rare or expensive , but how many other things can you use and wear on a daily basis that appreciate rather than depreciate?

If you like it great, but as an investment, I have a hard time believing someone is going to give you 10k for instance for something that you've been wearing for 3 years, that isn't rare, when for a few thousand more they can get a brand new one.

PrinceMoron
09-12-2012, 11:17 AM
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Jack Reacher goes without. Preternatural.
A man with one watch always knows the time
A man with two is never quite sure.

Boricua
09-12-2012, 11:21 AM
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'As the court was being prepared around him for the presentation ceremony, Murray could be seen saying, "I don't have it, I don't have it."

The "it" that he was referring to was his watch. Not a present from a loved one with much sentimental value, but a $2,000 (1,250) designer watch, provided courtesy of his sponsor Rado.

The watch is actually worth much more to Murray, as part of a multi-million dollar deal with the Swiss watch maker, so it was probably to the relief of both player and sponsor that he found it in time to receive his silverware.'

Murray is becoming the consummate pro. Worked very hard to get where he is, now the spoils of war go the the winner.

Accounts for his personal company show he made 6.4m in sponsorship, merchandising and appearance fees over the preceding 12 months. As well as Rado, whose watch the 25-year-old hurriedly strapped on before lifting the trophy, Murray is sponsored by Adidas, tennis equipment manufacturer Head, car-maker Jaguar, and RBS.

I liked the fact Federer swapped his silver Rolex for a gold one at WO to match the trophy. THAT really is being the consummate professional.

http://www.watchalyzer.com/wp-content/gallery/roger-federer/federer-rolex-wimbledon-2012-winner.jpg

What is it with these pros loosing their watches? First Nadal, now Murray.

Bhagi Katbamna
09-12-2012, 11:51 AM
Rado watches are great watches. They were one of the first manufacturers to use non-steel bands and cases to prevent scratches.

arche3
09-12-2012, 12:12 PM
If you like it great, but as an investment, I have a hard time believing someone is going to give you 10k for instance for something that you've been wearing for 3 years, that isn't rare, when for a few thousand more they can get a brand new one.

I happen to be a watch collector. I have bought and sold used ss Daytonas for 8k and the next week sell it for 11k. I still own a black face and a white face Daytona as well as a couple yellow gold ones. Pretty much a very collectable watch. It's the higher end Daytona that dont resell well. The stainless steel Daytona are like cash.

You can't just go to a store and buy one. No one has them. Hence the resale.

I bought an AP offshore watch. "End of days" model new for 12k. I sold it 7 years later for 45k.

It's a fun hobby. :)

GS
09-12-2012, 03:13 PM
Years ago, I bought a $24.95 Timex digital watch with a gold finish---it keeps perfect time. I just bought another one for a backup. I doubt if anyone will steal this things from my locker room....

Fee
09-12-2012, 03:32 PM
Years ago, I bought a $24.95 Timex digital watch with a gold finish---it keeps perfect time. I just bought another one for a backup. I doubt if anyone will steal this things from my locker room....

I still wear my Timex too. It works perfectly fine when I want to turn my wrist over and see what time it is. I splurged and spent almost $30 on a Sportline watch because it has a timer, an alarm, a chrono timer, a calorie counter, and a heart rate monitor.

jokinla
09-12-2012, 04:38 PM
I know I've still got some Swatches from the 80's, and also that old calculator one.

dr325i
09-12-2012, 06:28 PM
His watch maker doesn't have something a little more high end, $2,000 isn't that much for a watch, you've got Rafa's silly 500k watch, and of course Fed's Rolex's are way up there too.

Roger's watch is not "up there" with Rafa's -- not even close to it in $$$

arche3
09-12-2012, 06:58 PM
Roger's watch is not "up there" with Rafa's -- not even close to it in $$$

The most expensive rolex is probably the gmt master2 with full baguet diamonds all over the case and full pave diamond band. There were only 50 or so made. Close to 500k. I have worn it for an evening. Borrowed it from a friend who is a jeweler in NYC diamond district.

The white gold presidential roger usually wears is approx 17k-25k retail depending on the exact model.

Rafas watch retails 150-500k. Depending on the exact complication.

Sorry about the watch geek talk.... I have a pretty large collection.

Nostradamus
09-12-2012, 07:10 PM
I really can't see the watch really well on Murray at that angle. What model is it ? Rado. i like to buy one tomorrow

Nostradamus
09-12-2012, 07:16 PM
I really don't like Rado, they look weird. and i can't even tell what he is really wearing.

http://www.rado.com/

is this made in China ?

Nostradamus
09-12-2012, 07:19 PM
You want to see a real watch. this is a real watch. Spacemaster by james bond.

http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/product-presentations/spacemaster-z33

arche3
09-12-2012, 07:27 PM
You want to see a real watch. this is a real watch. Spacemaster by james bond.

http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/product-presentations/spacemaster-z33

The speed master professional is the only omega worth having. I've got one. It is the model buzz Aldrin wore to the moon. So it is nicknamed the moon watch.

MAXXply
09-12-2012, 08:16 PM
I was kinda disappointed, when, in his panicked state, he didn't let fly with a customary expletive-laden tirade that we usually hear from him after losing a point.

Timbo's hopeless slice
09-12-2012, 08:28 PM
I was kinda disappointed, when, in his panicked state, he didn't let fly with a customary expletive-laden tirade that we usually hear from him after losing a point.

its a wonder he wasn't suddenly reaching for his wrist as though it was injured..

golden moment in the USO final highlight package when Djoker gets one over him and good old Andy couldn't help himself, reflex grab at the quad.. LOL

VAmazona
09-12-2012, 09:11 PM
The speed master professional is the only omega worth having.

hmm

I think the Omega Seamaster, given its pop culture cache and ties to James Bond is in the conversation.

I think it comes down to the movement if you are into that. Otherwise, pick the one you think looks good, because barring exotic metals and complications, they are all going to distill into the same basic design (form following function). Seriously, the Rolex Daytona, Speed Master and Tag Carrera all look basically the same. Same goes for any diving watch.

Omegas have a great coaxial Eta movement.
As for me I love my Tag Carrera as my daily. Can't go wrong with the Valjoux (or I guess the Calibre __ )

Staying on topic, Andy Murray is probably the only person smiling wider each time he went from a Ferrari, to an Aston, to a Jag.

martini1
09-12-2012, 10:07 PM
You want to see a real watch. this is a real watch. Spacemaster by james bond.

http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/product-presentations/spacemaster-z33

LOL OMG you should know both Rado and Omega are owned by the same parent company.

Rado is a decent brand.

Cup8489
09-12-2012, 10:26 PM
Damnit, all this watch talk makes me want to buy a watch (broke the only decent one I had, over 100 dollars and it was a gift.)

Big_Dangerous
09-12-2012, 10:50 PM
The most expensive rolex is probably the gmt master2 with full baguet diamonds all over the case and full pave diamond band. There were only 50 or so made. Close to 500k. I have worn it for an evening. Borrowed it from a friend who is a jeweler in NYC diamond district.

The white gold presidential roger usually wears is approx 17k-25k retail depending on the exact model.

Rafas watch retails 150-500k. Depending on the exact complication.

Sorry about the watch geek talk.... I have a pretty large collection.

With a watch that expensive, why ever take it off?

Vlad_C
09-12-2012, 11:42 PM
You want to see a real watch. this is a real watch. Spacemaster by james bond.

http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/product-presentations/spacemaster-z33

You call that a watch?
This is a watch:

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00JeCEZwUDidqA/Silicone-Cartoon-Watch-Wrist-Watch-NFSP020-.jpg

It tells the (approximate) time, and it has one complication: a friggin' monkey, in a friggin' suit!!!

I dare you to top that!

I say Good Day to you sir!

:):):)

PS: The monkey in a suit looks slightly more intelligent than the current James Bond, too.

Fea14
09-12-2012, 11:58 PM
The most expensive rolex is probably the gmt master2 with full baguet diamonds all over the case and full pave diamond band. There were only 50 or so made. Close to 500k. I have worn it for an evening. Borrowed it from a friend who is a jeweler in NYC diamond district.

The white gold presidential roger usually wears is approx 17k-25k retail depending on the exact model.

Rafas watch retails 150-500k. Depending on the exact complication.

Sorry about the watch geek talk.... I have a pretty large collection.

Very interesting! I've always been a fan of watches, looking in high end places whenever I came across one. It's nice to look, although i've never really come close to affording one.

I got a U-Boat Flightdeck 50mm from my family for my 21'st birthday a few years ago, it's a beautiful thing.

I'd love a IWC Portuguese chronograph, one day maybe :)

Sentinel
09-13-2012, 12:11 AM
'As the court was being prepared around him for the presentation ceremony, Murray could be seen saying, "I don't have it, I don't have it."

Yeah, he was saying "I don't have it. My precious. My precious. I am coming to you, my preshus"

treblings
09-13-2012, 01:29 AM
I happen to be a watch collector. I have bought and sold used ss Daytonas for 8k and the next week sell it for 11k. I still own a black face and a white face Daytona as well as a couple yellow gold ones. Pretty much a very collectable watch. It's the higher end Daytona that dont resell well. The stainless steel Daytona are like cash.

You can't just go to a store and buy one. No one has them. Hence the resale.

I bought an AP offshore watch. "End of days" model new for 12k. I sold it 7 years later for 45k.

It's a fun hobby. :)

Sounds like fun.
Are their any good resources for watch collectors, like books or websites that
educate you about what is collectable and how prices develop? thanks

Nostradamus
09-13-2012, 05:06 AM
The speed master professional is the only omega worth having. I've got one. It is the model buzz Aldrin wore to the moon. So it is nicknamed the moon watch.

How much does that Omega cost ? their website has no price on them, very strange ? and Can we get a discount from Amazon or something like that ?

syke
09-13-2012, 06:09 AM
You call that a watch?
This is a watch:

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00JeCEZwUDidqA/Silicone-Cartoon-Watch-Wrist-Watch-NFSP020-.jpg

It tells the (approximate) time, and it has one complication: a friggin' monkey, in a friggin' suit!!!

I dare you to top that!

I say Good Day to you sir!

:):):)

PS: The monkey in a suit looks slightly more intelligent than the current James Bond, too.

Paul Frank Is Your Friend.

arche3
09-13-2012, 08:03 AM
How much does that Omega cost ? their website has no price on them, very strange ? and Can we get a discount from Amazon or something like that ?

Retail is around 4k. It is not a sought after model as in its plentiful. I can get it from my watch dealer 30% off. Never buy retail...

arche3
09-13-2012, 08:06 AM
hmm

I think the Omega Seamaster, given its pop culture cache and ties to James Bond is in the conversation.

I think it comes down to the movement if you are into that. Otherwise, pick the one you think looks good, because barring exotic metals and complications, they are all going to distill into the same basic design (form following function). Seriously, the Rolex Daytona, Speed Master and Tag Carrera all look basically the same. Same goes for any diving watch.

Omegas have a great coaxial Eta movement.
As for me I love my Tag Carrera as my daily. Can't go wrong with the Valjoux (or I guess the Calibre __ )

Staying on topic, Andy Murray is probably the only person smiling wider each time he went from a Ferrari, to an Aston, to a Jag.

Well.... Sean Connery wore a rolex sunmariner. It was roger Moore that wore an omega. The James bond books have him wearing a Rolex. So I don't consider omega a bond watch imo.

Tags are nice watches but I don't own any.

arche3
09-13-2012, 08:15 AM
Sounds like fun.
Are their any good resources for watch collectors, like books or websites that
educate you about what is collectable and how prices develop? thanks

Not really. Just watch forums. There are forums for all the major brands. You kinda have to ease into collecting watches. You look for limited edition models. Most are only available for purchase if the maker knows your a collector. The audemars shop in NYC knows me. I have bought close to 15 watches from them. They give me first dibs on any new watch they get in. Arrange a showing. The limited watches you can sell for more than you paid in most instances within a year.

My watch dealer in the diamond district can get me almost any watch new 30% off.

MAXXply
09-13-2012, 09:07 AM
Hey Arche3, is a Rolex Oyster Perpetual DateJust of today any different internally to the same model that John Newcombe used to wear and promote in the 1970s and 80s? He used to feature heavily in the Rolex ads plastered all over TENNIS and WORLD TENNIS magazines.

Was TUDOR simply an affordable Rolex priced below the cheapest Rolex?
And what's the attraction of buying a watch in "white gold" when it looks much like a stainless steel version??

Nostradamus
09-13-2012, 09:15 AM
Retail is around 4k. It is not a sought after model as in its plentiful. I can get it from my watch dealer 30% off. Never buy retail...

4K kind of expensive. but if i can negociate it down to 2K. i might buy it

db10s
09-13-2012, 10:22 AM
I've got a vintage Tag Heuer Formula 1...

treblings
09-13-2012, 10:50 AM
Not really. Just watch forums. There are forums for all the major brands. You kinda have to ease into collecting watches. You look for limited edition models. Most are only available for purchase if the maker knows your a collector. The audemars shop in NYC knows me. I have bought close to 15 watches from them. They give me first dibs on any new watch they get in. Arrange a showing. The limited watches you can sell for more than you paid in most instances within a year.

My watch dealer in the diamond district can get me almost any watch new 30% off.

thanks for taking the time to answer. i guess the internet in itself and special forums are really good resources.
when you buy a watch, do you know that it will rise in price or is it an educated guess?
and do you mainly collect new or vintage watches?
hope you dont mind my questions, but im a collector myself, mostly in tennis collectibles

arche3
09-13-2012, 10:54 AM
Hey Arche3, is a Rolex Oyster Perpetual DateJust of today any different internally to the same model that John Newcombe used to wear and promote in the 1970s and 80s? He used to feature heavily in the Rolex ads plastered all over TENNIS and WORLD TENNIS magazines.

Was TUDOR simply an affordable Rolex priced below the cheapest Rolex?
And what's the attraction of buying a watch in "white gold" when it looks much like a stainless steel version??

The datejust is bigger now than before. Internally the movement is updated but it's basically the same. Just a date wheel.

A Tudor is sorta like a cheap Rolex. But it's not the same. Some have the same movement. But I do not know for sure if it's still true as I don't buy them.

You get a white gold or platinum watch because it's a precious metal. Because you can. They look the same apart from different dial and markers. But basically the same as stainless. But any watch guy can spot a white gold watch based on the dial and hands if they are familiar with the manufacturer.

arche3
09-13-2012, 11:01 AM
thanks for taking the time to answer. i guess the internet in itself and special forums are really good resources.
when you buy a watch, do you know that it will rise in price or is it an educated guess?
and do you mainly collect new or vintage watches?
hope you dont mind my questions, but im a collector myself, mostly in tennis collectibles

I buy used modern watches mostly. Limited editions I buy new to wear for a year then resale.

Vintage watches are way too expensive to collect. Some fetch insane money.

I don't buy to resale other than the limited editions of certain brands where history as shown you can count on it rising in price. Rolex don't go up in price. The Daytona is the only truly collectable Rolex as you can always more or less sell it at what you paid.

So I buy watches I like to wear. But you always end up selling. Trading. Etc ... with other watch guys.

arche3
09-13-2012, 11:02 AM
4K kind of expensive. but if i can negociate it down to 2K. i might buy it

Buy it used. can prob get it for 2k.

treblings
09-13-2012, 11:10 AM
I buy used modern watches mostly. Limited editions I buy new to wear for a year then resale.

Vintage watches are way too expensive to collect. Some fetch insane money.

I don't buy to resale other than the limited editions of certain brands where history as shown you can count on it rising in price. Rolex don't go up in price. The Daytona is the only truly collectable Rolex as you can always more or less sell it at what you paid.

So I buy watches I like to wear. But you always end up selling. Trading. Etc ... with other watch guys.

So if i buy a new Rolex now, oher than the Daytona, it wont be worth more in say twenty years?
that surprises me

arche3
09-13-2012, 11:25 AM
So if i buy a new Rolex now, oher than the Daytona, it wont be worth more in say twenty years?
that surprises me

Nope. Rolex makes a boat load of watches per year. Example. A 20 year old gold president (day date) is worth very little it's original worth. If I try to sell a 1990s yellow gold day date like fed wears I think I can sell it for 5 or 6k. New in 1990, 15-18k.

But a vintage Daytona? Whole other story. It's nick named the Paul Newman watch. A vintage Daytona is like the holy grail of Rolex.

treblings
09-13-2012, 11:33 AM
Nope. Rolex makes a boat load of watches per year. Example. A 20 year old gold president (day date) is worth very little it's original worth. If I try to sell a 1990s yellow gold day date like fed wears I think I can sell it for 5 or 6k. New in 1990, 15-18k.

But a vintage Daytona? Whole other story. It's nick named the Paul Newman watch. A vintage Daytona is like the holy grail of Rolex.

the chances of finding one are probably approaching zero?

Vlad_C
09-13-2012, 11:38 AM
Not to interrupt your discussion or anything, but I stand by my previous statement that the monkey plastic watch is GOAT.

Close second:
http://i49.tinypic.com/ftejpw.jpg

Fake.
It actually works (most of the time).
You can buy it on the streets of Shanghai for about $30.

arche3
09-13-2012, 11:40 AM
the chances of finding one are probably approaching zero?

They are out there. In safes... lol. Sotheby auctions them occasionally. But really for a Rolex collector we would sell our wives to have one.... I won't sell my kids but my wife I'd haggle. :)

treblings
09-13-2012, 11:42 AM
Not to interrupt your discussion or anything, but I stand by my previous statement that the monkey plastic watch is GOAT.

Close second:
http://i49.tinypic.com/ftejpw.jpg

Fake.
It actually works (most of the time).
You can buy it on the streets of Shanghai for about $30.

hope you got it for less:)

arche3
09-13-2012, 11:44 AM
Not to interrupt your discussion or anything, but I stand by my previous statement that the monkey plastic watch is GOAT.

Close second:
http://i49.tinypic.com/ftejpw.jpg

Fake.
It actually works (most of the time).
You can buy it on the streets of Shanghai for about $30.

Vintage tags are worth some dough. Probably why it is knocked off.

Not sure I'm in agreement about monkey watch... lol.

Homeboy Hotel
09-13-2012, 12:34 PM
I've got a vintage Tag Heuer Formula 1...

Does it tell the time better than my Nokia phone?

jonnythan
09-13-2012, 12:41 PM
Does it tell the time better than my Nokia phone?

No, but it's infinitely cooler and more fashionable.

adidasman
09-13-2012, 12:49 PM
Years ago, I bought a $24.95 Timex digital watch with a gold finish---it keeps perfect time. I just bought another one for a backup. I doubt if anyone will steal this things from my locker room.... And you're still driving your '73 Gremlin, too, I'm sure.

Jeebs
09-13-2012, 12:50 PM
Vintage tags are worth some dough. Probably why it is knocked off.

Not sure I'm in agreement about monkey watch... lol.

I'm in the market for a Tag Monaco just now...love the one with the blue face.

UWTC
09-13-2012, 01:18 PM
Nope. Rolex makes a boat load of watches per year. Example. A 20 year old gold president (day date) is worth very little it's original worth. If I try to sell a 1990s yellow gold day date like fed wears I think I can sell it for 5 or 6k. New in 1990, 15-18k.

But a vintage Daytona? Whole other story. It's nick named the Paul Newman watch. A vintage Daytona is like the holy grail of Rolex.

The likelihood is that if you bought a steel Rolex sports model new today it will appreciate over a 20 year period, historically this has been the case. It's a bit of a myth that steel Daytona's remain difficult to get hold of new, a few years ago this was true but not today. They even pop up in AD's windows occasionally.

I'm a watch geek too :).

arche3
09-13-2012, 01:55 PM
The likelihood is that if you bought a steel Rolex sports model new today it will appreciate over a 20 year period, historically this has been the case. It's a bit of a myth that steel Daytona's remain difficult to get hold of new, a few years ago this was true but not today. They even pop up in AD's windows occasionally.

I'm a watch geek too :).

Nice! I agree about the Daytona. I never seen it in an ad though. Unless used and they are asking crazy inflated price

jokinla
09-13-2012, 02:26 PM
Nope. Rolex makes a boat load of watches per year. Example. A 20 year old gold president (day date) is worth very little it's original worth. If I try to sell a 1990s yellow gold day date like fed wears I think I can sell it for 5 or 6k. New in 1990, 15-18k.

But a vintage Daytona? Whole other story. It's nick named the Paul Newman watch. A vintage Daytona is like the holy grail of Rolex.

This pretty much validates my point of an expensive watch not appreciating, with the exception being the Daytona the one poster mentioned, although he said it wasn't rare, and from what I'm reading here, that doesn't seem to be the case.

ramos77
09-13-2012, 04:00 PM
My fave at the moment.

Hublot

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.com/media/2011/04/hublot-carbon-fiber-bb-3.jpg

Carbon fibre! :twisted:

arche3
09-13-2012, 05:25 PM
My fave at the moment.

Hublot

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.com/media/2011/04/hublot-carbon-fiber-bb-3.jpg

Carbon fibre! :twisted:

Love that watch.

hcb0804
09-14-2012, 04:20 AM
My fave at the moment.

Hublot

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.com/media/2011/04/hublot-carbon-fiber-bb-3.jpg

Carbon fibre! :twisted:

Braided graphite/kevlar Wilson PS 85!

NJ1
09-14-2012, 06:06 AM
Does it tell the time better than my Nokia phone?

Got to love bitterness....

Bhagi Katbamna
09-14-2012, 06:35 AM
Does it tell the time better than my Nokia phone?

Yes it does. It doesn't need a battery. Your phone does.

mental midget
09-15-2012, 02:03 PM
The likelihood is that if you bought a steel Rolex sports model new today it will appreciate over a 20 year period, historically this has been the case. It's a bit of a myth that steel Daytona's remain difficult to get hold of new, a few years ago this was true but not today. They even pop up in AD's windows occasionally.

I'm a watch geek too :).

a steel rolex (gmt, daytona, etc.) is unlikely to appreciate a whole heck of a lot. certain limited-run pieces might if the market takes a liking to it, but overall, expect a rolex to tread water in the secondary market (which isn't a bad thing-there are plenty of 'fashion brand' watches with garbage movements out there, selling for thousands, that will be worth zippo down the road.)

if you're buying a watch for investment purposes, the only real game in town (of the major manufacturers, not boutiques) is patek philippe, their more complicated pieces in particular. even their basic chronograph, the 5070, has more than doubled over the last few years. of course with patek, you have to spend money to make money, but for the most part it's a fairly reliable investment. the stern family does a good job keeping quality high and production reasonably low. although their last batch of new designs went a little too far for my taste.

if you're going to spend somewhere around 10-15k on a steel sports watch, i'd go for a used jumbo aquanaut over a new daytona in a heartbeat. jmho, but patek will always be patek. last of the independent houses.