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15_ounce
10-01-2012, 09:46 PM
Craig Tiley confirmed this.

What a mind game by Rafa's camp. First they said they're not sure, now Rafa said he will play AO 2013.

ALSO, the prize money is increased by AUD 4 million, to become AUD 30 million.

http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/Aussie-Open-prize-money-increases-to-A30-million-100112

Aussie Open prize money increases to A$30 million
The Associated Press, Melbourne, Australia | Sports | Tue, October 02 2012, 11:32 AM
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Australian Open organizers have increased prize money to a record Australian dollars 30 million ($31.1 million) for the first tennis major of 2013 in response to player concerns about compensation at Grand Slam tournaments.

Tournament director Craig Tiley said the A$4 million ($4.15 million) increase, announced Tuesday, was the largest from one year to the next in the tournament's history.

The move followed reports that some players were considering bypassing the tournament if prize money was not increased, particularly for losers in the early rounds.

Tiley said "we're proud of the fact we've gone to record prize money. We are supporting the lower-ranked players in their quest for compensation."

Tiley said Rafael Nadal had contacted him to confirm he plans to play in the tournament, despite recent injuries.

Mike Sams
10-01-2012, 10:20 PM
Good job Raffer! :) No point wasting any more opportunities at your age. The window is closing so time to make your best effort before things get worse. Nadal/Djokovic semifinal sounds good.:)

RAFA2005RG
10-01-2012, 10:57 PM
Good job Raffer! :) No point wasting any more opportunities at your age. The window is closing so time to make your best effort before things get worse. Nadal/Djokovic semifinal sounds good.:)

His age? He's almost 5 years younger than Federer, and only dropped one set at Roland Garros this year! Will be a long long time before you see the end of Rafa. Imagine how long it will take for him to struggle at Roland Garros....an eternity. Even though he wants to be a professional golfter, his competitive instincts will make it very hard to turn his back on tennis (especially the gimme title of Roland Garros). And he knows he can play professional golf long after his 30s.
http://media.sbs.com.au/news/thm/articlemain/2012-09-03T094430Z_1_CBRE8820R2E00_RTROPTP_2_OLY-TENN-NADAL.JPG

sbengte
10-02-2012, 12:25 AM
His age? He's almost 5 years younger than Federer, and only dropped one set at Roland Garros this year! Will be a long long time before you see the end of Rafa. Imagine how long it will take for him to struggle at Roland Garros....an eternity. Even though he wants to be a professional golfter, his competitive instincts will make it very hard to turn his back on tennis (especially the gimme title of Roland Garros). And he knows he can play professional golf long after his 30s.


And then Nadal will go on to become the only human in world history to win the US Open in tennis and golf.

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 12:35 AM
And then Nadal will go on to become the only human in world history to win the US Open in tennis and golf.

Good idea, I never thought of that. And I would enjoy especially seeing him become a bigger golf star than Tiger Woods.

tennis_pro
10-02-2012, 12:39 AM
LOL, not reading news about Nadal's alleged comeback unless I see him on the entry list of any ATP tournament.

BreakPoint
10-02-2012, 12:46 AM
His age? He's almost 5 years younger than Federer,...

Yeah, but Nadal's knees are about 20 years older than Federer's knees. :shock:

Zarfot Z
10-02-2012, 03:25 AM
Yeah, but Nadal's knees are about 20 years older than Federer's knees. :shock:

Few more matches and there will be no knees.

Crisstti
10-02-2012, 04:43 AM
Seems they worried about the boycott talk.

Let's see what the other slams do.

Alchemy-Z
10-02-2012, 04:48 AM
Glad to see the money for the early exit guys going up!

Sentinel
10-02-2012, 05:19 AM
Your title makes it look like they increased the prize money when they heard Rafa was ready to play.

rommil
10-02-2012, 05:22 AM
Glad to see the money for the early exit guys going up!

Is that why Rafa is entering?:)

CMM
10-02-2012, 05:29 AM
What a mind game by Rafa's camp. First they said they're not sure, now Rafa said he will play AO 2013.

The article says he plans to play, which is exactly what he said a couple of day ago. That doesn't mean he's 100% sure and since he hasn't even started to practice on court yet, you can't say "he's ready to play".

cc0509
10-02-2012, 05:31 AM
The article says he plans to play, which is exactly what he said a couple of day ago. That doesn't mean he's 100% sure and since he hasn't even started to practice on court yet, you can't say "he's ready to play".

Please! They have known exactly all along when Nadal would play.

CMM
10-02-2012, 05:40 AM
Please! They have known exactly all along when Nadal would play.
Yes, he said a long time ago that the plan is to start the season in good condition, but this doesn't mean it's 100% sure it's going to happen.
Sometimes things don't work out as planned but I guess he's got plenty of time...

cc0509
10-02-2012, 05:44 AM
Yes, he said a long time ago that the plan is to start the season in good condition, but this doesn't mean it's 100% sure it's going to happen.
Sometimes things don't work out as planned but I guess he's got plenty of time...

I have a feeling he will be just fine for the AO.

Vcore89
10-02-2012, 06:38 AM
Rafael Nadal is just WORKING the tennis fans!

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 06:40 AM
Rafael Nadal is set to make his long-awaited return to tennis at an Abu Dhabi exhibition tournament in December.

Organisers of the Mubadala World Tennis Championship said on Tuesday in a statement that Nadal is set to join a field including Novak Djokovic, Andy Murray and David Ferrer.

The tournament runs from Dec. 27-29.

Nadal hasn't played since losing in the second round of Wimbledon in June. He is recovering from a partially torn patella tendon in his left knee.

Nadal said last month he had no timetable for his return and the 11-time Grand Slam champion hopes to play in the Australian Open in January.


Look out Laver, the only man capable of the Calendar Year Grand Slam has returned.

Sentinel
10-02-2012, 06:59 AM
Look out Laver, the only man capable of the Calendar Year Grand Slam has returned.

Nole Djokovic ? Surely not Murray !

beast of mallorca
10-02-2012, 07:38 AM
Rafael Nadal is just WORKING the tennis fans!

And the Fed****s fell right on it. :twisted:

RF20Lennon
10-02-2012, 07:43 AM
Suddenly knee is now ok no? :twisted:

VPhuc tennis fan
10-02-2012, 07:50 AM
Boy, what do they do with all this money? Just amazing when I look around and see how many ordinary people are found w/o jobs? Just a digression...
Does Rosol play?

RF20Lennon
10-02-2012, 07:53 AM
Boy, what do they do with all this money? Just amazing when I look around and see how many ordinary people are found w/o jobs? Just a digression...
Does Rosol play?

Rosol needs to make it out of the quallies lol.

SoBad
10-02-2012, 07:56 AM
Yet another slam title for Great Nadal. Unless Berankis or Dolgopolov break through...

RF20Lennon
10-02-2012, 07:59 AM
Yet another slam title for Great Nadal. Unless Berankis or Dolgopolov break through...

Or the Donald!! :cool:

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 11:04 AM
Suddenly knee is now ok no? :twisted:

I warned you all, on September 24th, with my thread- Nadal recuperation on track- "...whether that is in two weeks or in three or four."
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=441096

Alchemy-Z
10-02-2012, 11:08 AM
Is that why Rafa is entering?:)

lol doubt it...he probably made more money pretending he "wasn't Rafa" at a golf club for poker stars than an early exit check.

RF20Lennon
10-02-2012, 11:17 AM
I warned you all, on September 24th, with my thread- Nadal recuperation on track- "...whether that is in two weeks or in three or four."
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=441096

I actually agreed with you lol but the timing is a bit fishy!

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 12:05 PM
I actually agreed with you lol but the timing is a bit fishy!

The timing of Rafa's comeback is fishy? I don't get you people. He's returning at the end of december instead of the indoor season. It's the only obvious thing to do. He's had a torn patella, so clearly he's not going to rush that and jeopardize the Australian Open all for the meaningless indoor season.

RF20Lennon
10-02-2012, 12:06 PM
The timing of Rafa's comeback is fishy? I don't get you people. He's returning at the end of december instead of the indoor season. It's the only obvious thing to do. He's had a torn patella, so clearly he's not going to rush that and jeopardize the Australian Open all for the meaningless indoor season.

No no not that the fact that he announced is right after the Aussie increased its prize money

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 12:11 PM
No no not that the fact that he announced is right after the Aussie increased its prize money

I'm glad Rafa resigned from the ATP Player Council. Hope they all boycott the Australian Open. The Australian Open only needs Rafa. He is tennis (as Talk Tennis has proven recently).

Crisstti
10-02-2012, 01:11 PM
No no not that the fact that he announced is right after the Aussie increased its prize money

But has he made an announcement?. It was the tournament director who said Rafa told him he plans to play, and I don't think we know when he contact him.

I'm glad Rafa resigned from the ATP Player Council. Hope they all boycott the Australian Open. The Australian Open only needs Rafa. He is tennis (as Talk Tennis has proven recently).

If there would be a boycott, Rafa would probably take part in it, whether he is in the council or not.

tennis_pro
10-02-2012, 01:13 PM
If there would be a boycott, Rafa would probably take part in it, whether he is in the council or not.

Sure...

The players should boycott the French Open, then. I'd love to hear what Nadal had to say in this matter.

SoBad
10-02-2012, 04:07 PM
Or the Donald!! :cool:

I was impressed by how he fought Davydenko in the Bronx a couple of years ago.

Vcore89
10-02-2012, 05:14 PM
Proves one thing, he's given up on winning at least one World Tour Finals!

Otherwise, his resume would've been complete.

Just add more and more RGs and claim some big bucks (obviously he is going to go deep into most of each tournaments anyways) at all the other GSes.

WhiskeyEE
10-02-2012, 06:47 PM
Proves one thing, he's given up on winning at least one World Tour Finals!

Otherwise, his resume would've been complete.

Just add more and more RGs and claim some big bucks (obviously he is going to go deep into most of each tournaments anyways) at all the other GSes.

he's trying to avoid losing to the big 3 on surfaces that favour them. it's the only way he can preserve his legacy. count on him to duck the big 3 for years to come.

Clarky21
10-02-2012, 06:51 PM
he's trying to avoid losing to the big 3 on surfaces that favour them. it's the only way he can preserve his legacy. count on him to duck the big 3 for years to come.



Dumb post is dumb.

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 07:12 PM
But has he made an announcement?. It was the tournament director who said Rafa told him he plans to play, and I don't think we know when he contact him.



If there would be a boycott, Rafa would probably take part in it, whether he is in the council or not.

Incorrect. Rafa has already committed to the Australian Open. And guess what? The Player's Council haven't decided on whether they'll play or not. Rafa doesn't care about the Player's Council. He doesn't attend their meetings, and has no connection with them.

ledwix
10-02-2012, 08:10 PM
I hope the money increase was mostly for the lesser players. Extra prize money for top players who make every semi is pretty irrelevant to their lives but would make a massive difference to dozens of other earners.

namelessone
10-02-2012, 10:49 PM
he's trying to avoid losing to the big 3 on surfaces that favour them. it's the only way he can preserve his legacy. count on him to duck the big 3 for years to come.

Yeah, Nadal has been great at ducking players on their best surfaces.

Nadal has met Fed 4 times in WTF(indoors) and lost everytime. Nice ducking job there.Ditto for grass in WB 2006 and 2007.

Nadal has met Djokovic on Djoko's best surface(HC) 16 times, lost 11 times. Again, pretty bad job at ducking.

For Nadal-Murray, Rafa has met Andy on HC 11 times, Nadal leading 6-5.

Boy, that Nadal is sure good at preserving his legacy.

It's not in Nadal's best interest to duck anyone. If he wants to remain relevant on tour he has to face the top guys head on. Look at what Djokovic did to him in 2011 and yet Nadal came back to reclaim clay next year and nearly beat him in AO as well.

veritech
10-02-2012, 10:51 PM
I'm glad Rafa resigned from the ATP Player Council. Hope they all boycott the Australian Open. The Australian Open only needs Rafa. He is tennis (as Talk Tennis has proven recently).

you should make a thread with a poll and ask talk tennis "who is tennis." i wonder who would win...

RAFA2005RG
10-03-2012, 03:10 AM
you should make a thread with a poll and ask talk tennis "who is tennis." i wonder who would win...

A large portion of words uttered about Rafa are by federer fans. They will never admit it (so forget your poll idea) but Rafa means more to them than Federer. When Rafa doesn't play, they talk about him far more than when he plays. His absence has made that clear. He is front, back and center of their minds.

RAFA2005RG
10-03-2012, 03:13 AM
Imagine if federer was absent for a year, Rafa fans wouldn't be interested in Federer's recovery or future, and would focus on their own player - Rafa.

kalyan4fedever
10-03-2012, 03:23 AM
Imagine if federer was absent for a year, Rafa fans wouldn't be interested in Federer's recovery or future, and would focus on their own player - Rafa.

Who said we want rafa back. The threads created mostly that 'i miss rafa' are after Feds quarterfinal USO exit and everyone wants to see some thrilling finals, so that is the reason, the so called fed fans wanted him back :twisted:

Crisstti
10-03-2012, 04:21 AM
Incorrect. Rafa has already committed to the Australian Open. And guess what? The Player's Council haven't decided on whether they'll play or not. Rafa doesn't care about the Player's Council. He doesn't attend their meetings, and has no connection with them.

He's simply said he plans to play.

What do you mean he doesn't attend the meetings?.

tennis_pro
10-03-2012, 04:22 AM
Imagine if federer was absent for a year, Rafa fans wouldn't be interested in Federer's recovery or future, and would focus on their own player - Rafa.

Do you think that Federer fans care how Nadal's recovery is going? I don't as long as he's out of the game. Would be fun if he dropped out of the rankings as well.

Crisstti
10-03-2012, 04:51 AM
Do you think that Federer fans care how Nadal's recovery is going? I don't as long as he's out of the game. Would be fun if he dropped out of the rankings as well.

Sure you care. You dread Fed having to play him.

tennis_pro
10-03-2012, 05:00 AM
Sure you care. You dread Fed having to play him.

I hate having him around no matter who he's playing. As I said don't care how he's recovering if he stays out for good.

Vcore89
10-03-2012, 06:18 AM
I hope the money increase was mostly for the lesser players. Extra prize money for top players who make every semi is pretty irrelevant to their lives but would make a massive difference to dozens of other earners.

Good thing indeed for the first rounders who has to shell out for hotel, airfare and various expenses. Only those who gets to being in the top 20s consistently can afford a better life as a professional.

Mike Sams
10-03-2012, 06:20 AM
Imagine if federer was absent for a year, Rafa fans wouldn't be interested in Federer's recovery or future, and would focus on their own player - Rafa.

They'd be hoping and praying for Roger's return so he could stop Djokovic to help Nadal win tournaments off clay. :lol:

NDFM
10-03-2012, 06:33 AM
Is this related to the whole boycott issue? If so then who actually presents the 'argument' to the organizers/directors of the australian open in order to increase the prize money? I'm confused

Mike Sams
10-03-2012, 06:41 AM
A large portion of words uttered about Rafa are by federer fans. They will never admit it (so forget your poll idea) but Rafa means more to them than Federer. When Rafa doesn't play, they talk about him far more than when he plays. His absence has made that clear. He is front, back and center of their minds.

The Fedal rivalry will not die until one of them has officially retired. If nobody was talking about Nadal, that would be worrying.

Mike Sams
10-03-2012, 06:43 AM
Yeah, Nadal has been great at ducking players on their best surfaces.

Nadal has met Fed 4 times in WTF(indoors) and lost everytime. Nice ducking job there.Ditto for grass in WB 2006 and 2007.

Nadal has met Djokovic on Djoko's best surface(HC) 16 times, lost 11 times. Again, pretty bad job at ducking.

For Nadal-Murray, Rafa has met Andy on HC 11 times, Nadal leading 6-5.

Boy, that Nadal is sure good at preserving his legacy.

It's not in Nadal's best interest to duck anyone. If he wants to remain relevant on tour he has to face the top guys head on. Look at what Djokovic did to him in 2011 and yet Nadal came back to reclaim clay next year and nearly beat him in AO as well.

The AO match had its effects. Nadal quit after the quarters of Miami with an "injury" as he felt the toll of these grinding matches. He finally got it together on clay as he usually does and then immediately after when the surface changed, got bounced again.

NDFM
10-03-2012, 06:58 AM
The AO match had its effects. Nadal quit after the quarters of Miami with an "injury" as he felt the toll of these grinding matches. He finally got it together on clay as he usually does and then immediately after when the surface changed, got bounced again.

I can agree that he got 'bounced again' on grass 2nd round at wimbledon proves this but going by the results of the hard court tournaments from and including the AO he didn't do terribly: final in the AO, semis in Indian Wells (lost to federer but fed was playing great), got to the semis of Miami but withdrew so I don't think he got bounced on those hard court tournaments

The Dark Knight
10-03-2012, 07:14 AM
Boy, what do they do with all this money? Just amazing when I look around and see how many ordinary people are found w/o jobs? Just a digression...
Does Rosol play?

Don't worry keep looking I'm sure you will find one soon.

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 07:39 AM
I think nadal should look to this forum for motivation as his health is discussed more here than actual tennis ;)

RAFA2005RG
10-03-2012, 08:57 AM
He's simply said he plans to play.

What do you mean he doesn't attend the meetings?.

When the Player's Council has meetings to plan their boycott. Rafa is absent. He resigned from the Council this year. That is why he's told the AO tournament director that he plans to play (meanwhile Murray, Djokovic, Federer have not told the tournament director anything).

The Dark Knight
10-03-2012, 09:22 AM
When the Player's Council has meetings to plan their boycott. Rafa is absent. He resigned from the Council this year. That is why he's told the AO tournament director that he plans to play (meanwhile Murray, Djokovic, Federer have not told the tournament director anything).

He can "plan" all he wants.....I can plan to beat Obama in the presidential election,,,...I hope he gets well soon.

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 09:25 AM
When the Player's Council has meetings to plan their boycott. Rafa is absent. He resigned from the Council this year. That is why he's told the AO tournament director that he plans to play (meanwhile Murray, Djokovic, Federer have not told the tournament director anything).

Yeah cause federer and djokovic will boycott the AO please get out of your delusions and come back to reality. Rafa resigned because no one cared for his opinion and be didn't enjoy being Fed's sidekick

The Dark Knight
10-03-2012, 09:26 AM
Yeah cause federer and djokovic will boycott the AO please get out of your delusions and come back to reality. Rafa resigned because no one cared for his opinion and be didn't enjoy being Fed's sidekick

And you know this how?

Mike Sams
10-03-2012, 09:30 AM
And you know this how?

If you were a tennis player trying to make it in the sport, would you agree to a 2 year ranking system?

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 09:30 AM
And you know this how?

Which part??

15_ounce
10-03-2012, 09:33 AM
Imagine if federer was absent for a year, Rafa fans wouldn't be interested in Federer's recovery or future, and would focus on their own player - Rafa.

The trouble is, Federer is never absent for 1 year ;-)

VPhuc tennis fan
10-03-2012, 09:37 AM
Don't worry keep looking I'm sure you will find one soon.
So Rosol plays? Should we hope he falls in Rafa's half? 1-0 H2H against your GOAT, and if going 2-0 after AO... No more talk about how dominant Rafa is, right?

VPhuc tennis fan
10-03-2012, 09:41 AM
Which part??

Did Rafa resign from the Tennis Player Council because he lost on blue clay whereas Fed won? LOL.
I think blue clay will still be there @ Madrid, so no chance to see Rafa back in the Council then.:)

RAFA2005RG
10-03-2012, 09:43 AM
Anyone who likes Rosol will pray that he never has to face Rafa again. On Rosol's best day he could only manage a 6-4 5th set win. Imagine if Rosol doesn't play great next time, what then? And what if Rafa isn't suffering from Hoffa's syndrome next time? What then? If anyone likes Rosol they'll pray he never has to face Rafa again, and keeps the 1-0 record.

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 09:49 AM
Did Rafa resign from the Tennis Player Council because he lost on blue clay whereas Fed won? LOL.
I think blue clay will still be there @ Madrid, so no chance to see Rafa back in the Council then.:)

Blue clay is gone lol

VPhuc tennis fan
10-03-2012, 09:51 AM
Blue clay is gone lol
Too bad.
Should we lobby to have Rosol vs Rafa in early rounds of Madrid?

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 10:02 AM
Too bad.
Should we lobby to have Rosol vs Rafa in early rounds of Madrid?

If only Rosol could get past quallies

Mike Sams
10-03-2012, 10:04 AM
Anyone who likes Rosol will pray that he never has to face Rafa again. On Rosol's best day he could only manage a 6-4 5th set win. Imagine if Rosol doesn't play great next time, what then? And what if Rafa isn't suffering from Hoffa's syndrome next time? What then? If anyone likes Rosol they'll pray he never has to face Rafa again, and keeps the 1-0 record.

Nadal was lucky he didn't get straight setted that day.

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 10:05 AM
Nadal was lucky he didn't get straight setted that day.

He had to save quite a lot of set points in the first but he fought through though

RAFA2005RG
10-03-2012, 10:27 AM
Nadal was lucky he didn't get straight setted that day.

And Rosol was lucky they had that long delay after the 4th set to close the roof and air condition the place before playing. Rafa had smoked Rosol in the 4th set. Even more bizarre, is it wasn't even raining when they chose to close the roof.

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 10:28 AM
And Rosol was lucky they had that long delay after the 4th set to close the roof and air condition the place before playing. Rafa had smoked Rosol in the 4th set.

He didn't need that but it happened

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 10:29 AM
And Rosol was lucky they had that long delay after the 4th set to close the roof and air condition the place before playing. Rafa had smoked Rosol in the 4th set.

It's called not having enough light!!

RAFA2005RG
10-03-2012, 10:35 AM
It's called not having enough light!!

The light was fine according to all commentators. And the players never complained about the light. The match referee said they closed the roof because they thought IN 30-40 MINUTES the light might fade. Oh and btw, the 3rd set took 34 minutes, 4th set took 32 minutes, 5th set took 33 minutes.

Cup8489
10-03-2012, 10:38 AM
The light was fine according to all commentators. And the players never complained about the light. The match referee said they closed the roof because they thought IN 30-40 MINUTES the light might fade. Oh and btw, the 3rd set took 34 minutes, 4th set took 32 minutes, 5th set took 33 minutes.

How could they have known?

Oh that's right, they don't always operate on the ASSUMPTION that nadal is going to steamroll.

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 10:38 AM
The light was fine according to all commentators. And the players never complained about the light. The match referee said they closed the roof because they thought IN 30-40 MINUTES the light might fade. Oh and btw, the 3rd set took 34 minutes, 4th set took 32 minutes, 5th set took 33 minutes.

Which commentators?? And I thought that was a good call. There's nothing wrong with more light unless of course nadal's eyes had something wrong with them :cool: and he still played what a warrior

RAFA2005RG
10-03-2012, 10:40 AM
Face it, the Australian Open and Roland Garros are the only properly run slams.

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 10:42 AM
Face it, the Australian Open and Roland Garros are the only properly run slams.

Ofcourse!! How dare Wimbledon not allow rafa to get past the second round??? And the US???? Didn't even have him in the draw!!! The audacity of these people I tell you..

RAFA2005RG
10-03-2012, 10:46 AM
Ofcourse!! How dare Wimbledon not allow rafa to get past the second round??? And the US???? Didn't even have him in the draw!!! The audacity of these people I tell you..

Closing the roof in anticipation of the light fading IN 30-40 minutes. The dumbest match ref in tennis history. And I couldn't care less that Rafa lost that match, I'm talking about the logic behind the decision.

Mike Sams
10-03-2012, 10:58 AM
And Rosol was lucky they had that long delay after the 4th set to close the roof and air condition the place before playing. Rafa had smoked Rosol in the 4th set. Even more bizarre, is it wasn't even raining when they chose to close the roof.

Losing the first set sure didn't bother Rosol as he went and won the 2nd and 3rd sets. Why would losing the 4th set bother him at all? :lol:

RF20Lennon
10-03-2012, 11:04 AM
Closing the roof in anticipation of the light fading IN 30-40 minutes. The dumbest match ref in tennis history. And I couldn't care less that Rafa lost that match, I'm talking about the logic behind the decision.

Well better to start it before the set started rather than in between no one knew how long it would last (the set) your just blaming the roof for nadal's loss

Cup8489
10-04-2012, 08:46 PM
Well better to start it before the set started rather than in between no one knew how long it would last (the set) your just blaming the roof for nadal's loss

Of course he is. He claims to not care about it, but he is obviously seething at what happened. It's complete bullcrap what he's saying.

RAFA2005RG
10-04-2012, 10:14 PM
Losing the first set sure didn't bother Rosol as he went and won the 2nd and 3rd sets. Why would losing the 4th set bother him at all? :lol:

Ah because Nadal won the 4th set 6-2. The first set was only encouragement to Rosol, because it was so close all the way.

Well better to start it before the set started rather than in between no one knew how long it would last (the set) your just blaming the roof for nadal's loss

Show me a match in history where a roof has been closed at the end of the 4th set in anticipation of fading light in 40 minutes (which nobody can predict accurately btw). And like I said before the 3rd set took 34 minutes, 4th set took 32 minutes, 5th set took 33 minutes.. And Nadal had won the 4th set 6-2, so there was every indication that the 5th set wouldn't have taken long. And the points were quick because Rosol was going for cold winners and Nadal wasn't hitting deep enough to extend the rallies.

Of course he is. He claims to not care about it, but he is obviously seething at what happened. It's complete bullcrap what he's saying.

You just proved to me you don't know what you're talking about. I only care about Roland Garros and Rio.

RF20Lennon
10-05-2012, 01:23 AM
Ah because Nadal won the 4th set 6-2. The first set was only encouragement to Rosol, because it was so close all the way.



Show me a match in history where a roof has been closed at the end of the 4th set in anticipation of fading light in 40 minutes (which nobody can predict accurately btw). And like I said before the 3rd set took 34 minutes, 4th set took 32 minutes, 5th set took 33 minutes.. And Nadal had won the 4th set 6-2, so there was every indication that the 5th set wouldn't have taken long. .
Exactly since no one can predict when the light will go out its better to put it in the start of the set rather than in between right?? And just because the previous set was fast in no way means the next set will be. So either you're blaming the roof for nadals loss or your just generally upset and are picking on things which don't really have that much value. Either way you're wrong.

RAFA2005RG
10-05-2012, 02:43 AM
Exactly since no one can predict when the light will go out its better to put it in the start of the set rather than in between right?? And just because the previous set was fast in no way means the next set will be. So either you're blaming the roof for nadals loss or your just generally upset and are picking on things which don't really have that much value. Either way you're wrong.

Put the player ranked 200 vs the player ranked 199, and I'd still say (and anyone with a brain would say) don't close the roof in anticipation of fading light. The fact you are supporting the huge blunder Wimbledon made shows how dumb you are.

Cup8489
10-05-2012, 05:43 AM
Ah because Nadal won the 4th set 6-2. The first set was only encouragement to Rosol, because it was so close all the way.



Show me a match in history where a roof has been closed at the end of the 4th set in anticipation of fading light in 40 minutes (which nobody can predict accurately btw). And like I said before the 3rd set took 34 minutes, 4th set took 32 minutes, 5th set took 33 minutes.. And Nadal had won the 4th set 6-2, so there was every indication that the 5th set wouldn't have taken long. And the points were quick because Rosol was going for cold winners and Nadal wasn't hitting deep enough to extend the rallies.



You just proved to me you don't know what you're talking about. I only care about Roland Garros and Rio.

Riight. "I only care about RG and Rio".. but yet you continue to whine about the roof for over two pages now. You just proved to me you don't know what you're talking about.

The Dark Knight
10-05-2012, 06:20 AM
Well better to start it before the set started rather than in between no one knew how long it would last (the set) your just blaming the roof for nadal's loss

I think you have to decide whether a tournament is indoors or outdoors but you shouldn't have it both ways.

First of all everything except centre court is outdoors .

Secondly to change in the middle of a match is just about the same as changing a grass court and then in the middle move over to clay.

The difference between an indoor match and outdoor match is that big. It's as much a game changer as the surface .....maybe even more.

It reminds of the movie hunger games.....they kept changing the rules in the middle of the game ..."now you two people from the same clan can survive .......change......now only one can survive ".

It's not fair. Wimbledon should go indoors altogether or outdoors altogether .....but not both .

RAFA2005RG
10-05-2012, 06:32 AM
Riight. "I only care about RG and Rio".. but yet you continue to whine about the roof for over two pages now. You just proved to me you don't know what you're talking about.

I referred to the roof, and then others quoted me and replied. Am I supposed to ignore them? Anyone who thinks Wimbledon knows how to use a roof is kidding themselves. And nothing to do with Rafa. Wimbledon is the last slam I'd care about Rafa winning. Roland Garros and the Australian Open are my favorite slams by far.

RAFA2005RG
10-05-2012, 06:44 AM
It doesn't matter who you are a fan of, if you have a brain you know Wimbledon doesn't know how to use a roof.

“This is an outdoor tournament, so I think everybody wants to play when the roof is open,” Djokovic said. “I was a little bit surprised when I saw sunshine that the roof is closed. But obviously they’re relying on the forecast that I don’t think is very reliable here.” - Djokovic commenting on the Nadal-Rosol match.

RF20Lennon
10-05-2012, 09:46 AM
Put the player ranked 200 vs the player ranked 199, and I'd still say (and anyone with a brain would say) don't close the roof in anticipation of fading light. The fact you are supporting the huge blunder Wimbledon made shows how dumb you are.

Your not giving me an argument. Your just saying that you wouldnt close it but why???????? Where is the why factor??? My argument is If you know the light is going to fade away you might as well close the roof before the set starts rather than in the middle of it. FYI the bolded is a personal attack but I refuse to stoop down to your level.

RF20Lennon
10-05-2012, 09:48 AM
It doesn't matter who you are a fan of, if you have a brain you know Wimbledon doesn't know how to use a roof.

“This is an outdoor tournament, so I think everybody wants to play when the roof is open,” Djokovic said. “I was a little bit surprised when I saw sunshine that the roof is closed. But obviously they’re relying on the forecast that I don’t think is very reliable here.” - Djokovic commenting on the Nadal-Rosol match.

You havent been to London have you??? Im guessing not. The weather there is extremely unpredictable!! The forecast is never reliable there! They did that so that in case the light fades early the players would have light to play in

RF20Lennon
10-05-2012, 09:49 AM
I think you have to decide whether a tournament is indoors or outdoors but you shouldn't have it both ways.

First of all everything except centre court is outdoors .

Secondly to change in the middle of a match is just about the same as changing a grass court and then in the middle move over to clay.

The difference between an indoor match and outdoor match is that big. It's as much a game changer as the surface .....maybe even more.

It reminds of the movie hunger games.....they kept changing the rules in the middle of the game ..."now you two people from the same clan can survive .......change......now only one can survive ".

It's not fair. Wimbledon should go indoors altogether or outdoors altogether .....but not both .

Why not?? It rains you close the roof, you play. If there isnt enough light you close the roof, you play. If light is going to fade out and your about to start a second set might as well put the roof on just to be sure.

RAFA2005RG
10-05-2012, 11:28 AM
^ You aren't convincing anyone :lol:

ruerooo
10-05-2012, 12:08 PM
Exactly since no one can predict when the light will go out its better to put it in the start of the set rather than in between right?? And just because the previous set was fast in no way means the next set will be. So either you're blaming the roof for nadals loss or your just generally upset and are picking on things which don't really have that much value. Either way you're wrong.

The roof changing the conditions has less to do with the light than it does with the humidity.

The light is the reason they close the roof. The shift in humidity happens after they close it, and is something else that affects conditions.

(It's one of the reasons Roger can close sets out much faster when the roof is closed. He's essentially playing indoor tennis.)

Did you not know that??
:shock:

underground
10-05-2012, 12:33 PM
Ah because Nadal won the 4th set 6-2. The first set was only encouragement to Rosol, because it was so close all the way.



Losing a TB 11-9 is much more heartbreaking than losing a set 6-2, usually players just fade away after such a set.

VPhuc tennis fan
10-05-2012, 01:14 PM
Aren't we getting so far away from the OP in the last few pages? Roof and Wimby? Since we're in the deep of it, here are my 2 cents. Roof is there to stay. Whine or not whine, it wouldn't change a thing. Personally, I prefer having it so we can use it to avoid these lengthy rain delays. As a player, as a spectator, who REALLY loves sitting around for 4-5 hours, play 30 minutes, and sit out and wait for another 5 hours before getting sent home? Who in their right mind?
Rafa lost, roof or no roof. They may have played on ice, or quick sand, or underwater. He still got blown off court that day. Stop making such childish excuses. Swallow your pride and keep walking.

Clarky21
10-05-2012, 01:19 PM
Aren't we getting so far away from the OP in the last few pages? Roof and Wimby? Since we're in the deep of it, here are my 2 cents. Roof is there to stay. Whine or not whine, it wouldn't change a thing. Personally, I prefer having it so we can use it to avoid these lengthy rain delays. As a player, as a spectator, who REALLY loves sitting around for 4-5 hours, play 30 minutes, and sit out and wait for another 5 hours before getting sent home? Who in their right mind?
Rafa lost, roof or no roof. They may have played on ice, or quick sand, or underwater. He still got blown off court that day. Stop making such childish excuses. Swallow your pride and keep walking.


A 5 set match with the 5th being 6-4 is being blown off the court? I think you need to revise your idea of just exactly what that means.


And Wimby is an outdoor tournament,and closing the roof just in case it rains is bs,and shouldn't be allowed.

smoledman
10-05-2012, 01:39 PM
I don't get Nadal fans. Do they really insist Nadal would have won everything on the tennis calendar if it weren't for various conspiracies?

VPhuc tennis fan
10-05-2012, 08:28 PM
A 5 set match with the 5th being 6-4 is being blown off the court? I think you need to revise your idea of just exactly what that means.


And Wimby is an outdoor tournament,and closing the roof just in case it rains is bs,and shouldn't be allowed.
He lost. End of the story. Closing the roof made him lose that match? P-L-E-A-S-E!
I take it that you like to sit around waiting for 5 hours, play for 30 minutes, then wait another 5 hours, then go back to your hotel to resume tomorrow, isn't it? Well, different strokes for different folks, what can I say?
Rain may come, daylight is fading, whatever... If there is a roof, use it. It would be stupid for NOT using it. Wimby people are smarter than USO people IMO.

TheMusicLover
10-05-2012, 08:32 PM
I don't get Nadal fans *****. Do they really insist Nadal would have won everything on the tennis calendar if it weren't for various conspiracies tons of miracle injuries, occuring whenever it's convenient?

Just some slight corrections. ;)

RF20Lennon
10-05-2012, 09:36 PM
A 5 set match with the 5th being 6-4 is being blown off the court? I think you need to revise your idea of just exactly what that means.


And Wimby is an outdoor tournament,and closing the roof just in case it rains is bs,and shouldn't be allowed.

It was in anticipation of the light fading not the rain

RAFA2005RG
10-06-2012, 04:50 AM
It's laughable, to say the least.

VPhuc tennis fan
10-06-2012, 08:16 AM
It's laughable, to say the least.
We're all laughing now for sure. At who...Make your guess.

RAFA2005RG
10-06-2012, 09:43 PM
We're all laughing now for sure. At who...Make your guess.

At the person who thinks Wimbledon knows how to use a roof....

VPhuc tennis fan
10-07-2012, 04:25 AM
At the person who thinks Wimbledon knows how to use a roof....
How about sit for 5 hours waiting for the rain to stop, go out to play for 30 min, wait another 5 hrs before getting sent home to resume tomorrow? Rinse, wash, repeat, once or twice. Who's laughing now?
Excuses, excuses, closing the roof, is that your argument why Rafa got kicked out in the 2nd round of Wimby?

Clarky21
10-07-2012, 06:49 AM
It was in anticipation of the light fading not the rain



Then suspend play. No rain=no roof.

NadalDramaQueen
10-07-2012, 07:28 AM
Then suspend play. No rain=no roof.

Give me a break. If they suspended play and Rafa lost the next day, the same people whining about the roof would be whining about Rafa's lost momentum due to the extra long delay. There is no way to win with excuse makers.

RAFA2005RG
10-07-2012, 09:18 AM
I don't care who's playing. Shut the roof for FEAR of fading light in 40 minutes according to another shoddy forecast (btw do forecasts even predict light?)? Who does that? Only a truly dumb poster would support that idea.

3fees
10-07-2012, 09:58 AM
Good for Nadal,,if he rusty in tournament play this may be a problem..


:)

VPhuc tennis fan
10-07-2012, 10:49 AM
I don't care who's playing. Shut the roof for FEAR of fading light in 40 minutes according to another shoddy forecast (btw do forecasts even predict light?)? Who does that? Only a truly dumb poster would support that idea.

Shutting the roof made Rafa lose his match. Is that your excuse? Pretty lame. Pretty pathetic. I'd be quite ashamed to hear my fans inventing excuses like those if I was Rafa. Quit whining!

SoBad
10-07-2012, 10:51 AM
I'd love to see Nadal play at the AO13. I hope they serve fresh pho soup in their cafeteria.

VPhuc tennis fan
10-07-2012, 03:18 PM
I'd love to see Nadal play at the AO13. I hope they serve fresh pho soup in their cafeteria.
Is that the food that makes Rafa win AO 13? Humm, can't wait to see. Please post a pic for us to see (Rafa next to a bowl of pho)... Don't forget a bottle of Red Stripe if possible.:)

VPhuc tennis fan
10-07-2012, 03:21 PM
Who does that? Only a truly dumb poster would support that idea.
Agree. And if I may add, only a DUMBER person for NOT knowing what to do this wonderful technology. Hope you also second my opinion.
Your place on the bandwagon is secure, by the way.

Crisstti
10-07-2012, 03:29 PM
The roof delay obviously had its effect. I don't see how it would have been good for Rafa to go on playing in the tournament anyway, the state he was in.

RF20Lennon
10-07-2012, 03:36 PM
The roof delay obviously had its effect. I don't see how it would have been good for Rafa to go on playing in the tournament anyway, the state he was in.

how bad was his situation?? did he have HOffas at wimby?

Crisstti
10-07-2012, 04:27 PM
how bad was his situation?? did he have HOffas at wimby?

I would think he did. But they haven't been all that clear about it. But didn't Rafa describe the problem in some interview around Montecarlo, and more recently said it came from February?.
In any case, he must have had the tendon tear then, they did say it happened at Wimbledon.

RAFA2005RG
10-07-2012, 09:13 PM
Shutting the roof made Rafa lose his match. Is that your excuse? Pretty lame. Pretty pathetic. I'd be quite ashamed to hear my fans inventing excuses like those if I was Rafa. Quit whining!

What has this got to do with Rafa? I'm talking about the roof and Wimbledon. I'm talking about Wimbledon "logic".

RAFA2005RG
10-07-2012, 09:16 PM
How about sit for 5 hours waiting for the rain to stop, go out to play for 30 min, wait another 5 hrs before getting sent home to resume tomorrow? Rinse, wash, repeat, once or twice. Who's laughing now?
Excuses, excuses, closing the roof, is that your argument why Rafa got kicked out in the 2nd round of Wimby?

Shut the roof if it is raining. But why shut the roof in dry weather with sunshine? That's what Wimbledon does, shut it in fine bright weather (with no rain in the forecast, only "bad light" coming in 40 minutes).

SoBad
10-08-2012, 06:48 AM
Is that the food that makes Rafa win AO 13? Humm, can't wait to see. Please post a pic for us to see (Rafa next to a bowl of pho)... Don't forget a bottle of Red Stripe if possible.:)

Toni and Rafa used to walk around for hours in the Little Saigon section of Sicily, years ago. They ate noodle soups and got massages.

VPhuc tennis fan
10-08-2012, 10:13 AM
Toni and Rafa used to walk around for hours in the Little Saigon section of Sicily, year ago. They ate noodle soups and got massages.
"Little Saigon section of Sicily"? Really?
Are we off tennis issue and into interesting places to hang out after a tennis match? All ears, if that's the case.

RF20Lennon
10-08-2012, 10:25 AM
If the roof was open and Rafa lost Rafa2005RB would be saying how they should've closed the roof as the light was bad

SoBad
10-08-2012, 12:30 PM
"Little Saigon section of Sicily"? Really?
Are we off tennis issue and into interesting places to hang out after a tennis match? All ears, if that's the case.

One day, despite the drizzle, Nadal hit 1,000 lefty forehands on the slow Sicilian clay. He was so exhausted by the drill, he phoned and had japchae with scallops and shrimp delivered right to the tennis court.

mellowyellow
10-08-2012, 01:53 PM
So how long does this make the serena, ahh I mean silent ban?