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SStrikerR
10-02-2012, 06:49 PM
In particular, the cost of the AO. Twice, Nadal has participated in the final of the AO, and both times he has had a prolonged absence due to injury that year. As well as that, djokovic's magical 2011 form was drained out by the slugfest known as the AO 2012 final. Is the AO really worth killing the rest of your year for?

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 07:43 PM
I agree, there is nothing more harmful to a player than slow hardcourts. The rallies are longer, and add to that the impact of a 5-setter. It's definitely not a good way to start the year. That is why its important to skip Indian Wells and Miami. No tennis in Feb AND March is the ideal off-season.

Prisoner of Birth
10-02-2012, 07:48 PM
I don't think Djokovic's current form has anything to do with the AO final. He had a great 2011, it's not right to compare his following (or even previous) seasons to that one. 2012 has been a great year for him as well. And Nadal, well, I have no idea about the whats, whys, whens, and hows of his injuries.

Hood_Man
10-02-2012, 08:09 PM
Djokovic just looked bored between Australia and Monte Carlo.

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 08:11 PM
Nadal 2009: semi and final 5-setters at AO, skipped Wimbledon.
Nadal 2010: QF of AO (retired hurt), won 3 slams in a row.
Nadal 2011: QF of AO (injured), made the next 5 slam finals in a row (won 2).
Nadal 2012: 6 hour final at AO, skipped US Open.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/-lv42yihcJ8I/TyI4KD7okII/AAAAAAAA96o/hO4dEQwbWN8/nadal_33569_thumb%25255B1%25255D.jpg
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/623/957/rafael-nadal-fernando-verdasco_crop_650x440.jpg?1294620965

RF20Lennon
10-02-2012, 08:14 PM
Hey heres an idea!! Speed up the damn court!! Man I miss rebound ace

Zarfot Z
10-02-2012, 08:24 PM
I agree, there is nothing more harmful to a player than slow hardcourts. The rallies are longer, and add to that the impact of a 5-setter. It's definitely not a good way to start the year. That is why its important to skip Indian Wells and Miami. No tennis in Feb AND March is the ideal off-season.

How bout even slower clay courts?

DolgoSantoro
10-02-2012, 08:37 PM
How bout even slower clay courts?

Although there is increased risk of slipping on clay your body really takes a beating during a 5+ hour grindfest on a slow hardcourt.
We should do Rafa a favor and speed the AO way up, maybe even so its faster than the USO

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 08:48 PM
How bout even slower clay courts?

Clay is the most forgiving surface in the world. Grass and hardcourt are both more damaging to the body than clay. Even if rallies are long on clay (about as long as the Australian Open) the pressure put on the body is far less. And in Rafa's case, he's never had a match at Roland Garros as long as his 2009 AO semi, 2009 AO final, 2012 AO final. I hope they fasten up the AO.

bluescreen
10-02-2012, 08:52 PM
Hey heres an idea!! Speed up the damn court!! Man I miss rebound ace

Rebound Ace wasn't a fast court though.

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 09:01 PM
Rebound Ace (Agassi Kafelnikov 2000 AO final):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvXVhAOMdRI

smoledman
10-02-2012, 09:09 PM
]I agree, there is nothing more harmful to a player than slow hardcourts. The rallies are longer, and add to that the impact of a 5-setter. It's definitely not a good way to start the year. That is why its important to skip Indian Wells and Miami. No tennis in Feb AND March is the ideal off-season.

2012 Indian Wells semifinals Roger Federer def Rafael Nadal 6-4 6-3:twisted:

RAFA2005RG
10-02-2012, 09:19 PM
2012 Indian Wells semifinals Roger Federer def Rafael Nadal 6-4 6-3:twisted:

And then Rafa retired hurt at Miami the following week. And he said he shouldn't have even played Miami.

TennisLovaLova
10-03-2012, 01:12 AM
And then Rafa retired hurt at Miami the following week. And he said he shouldn't have even played Miami.

I know why he said that: he's a troll

tennis_pro
10-03-2012, 01:19 AM
less than 30 grand obviously

furryballs
10-03-2012, 01:33 AM
feds won it four times and hes going not to bad

dominikk1985
10-03-2012, 04:29 AM
In particular, the cost of the AO. Twice, Nadal has participated in the final of the AO, and both times he has had a prolonged absence due to injury that year. As well as that, djokovic's magical 2011 form was drained out by the slugfest known as the AO 2012 final. Is the AO really worth killing the rest of your year for?

I think the AO are a little too early in the season (not enough time for preparation) but he could just as well have a break after the AO skipping the spring hardcourt season (miami, indian wells). players used to skip the AO but you just don't skip a slam anymore

dominikk1985
10-03-2012, 04:30 AM
feds won it four times and hes going not to bad

yes. and agassi won them till he was about 50 yo:D. they are early in the season but if you have a smart schedule it can be done.

MichaelNadal
10-03-2012, 09:18 AM
feds won it four times and hes going not to bad

Federer is the GOAT.

Gonzo_style
10-03-2012, 10:41 AM
Djokovic just looked bored between Australia and Monte Carlo.

He wins Miami without losing a set :-?

underground
10-03-2012, 11:39 AM
Winning the AO always have been some sort of curse for the rest of the year. Djokovic 2008, Nadal 2009, Federer 2010, Djokovic 2012, none of them won another slam in the year after they won that AO.

The exceptions were the completely dominant crazy seasons, i.e. Federer 2004, 2006, 2007, and Djokovic 2011.

Hood_Man
10-03-2012, 11:40 AM
He wins Miami without losing a set :-?

Yes he did.