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ten11
10-08-2012, 12:33 PM
I got a pair of pro stocks and just too head light because previous owner removed some lead under grommet. In my research of head light, I found this page http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4422518&postcount=1

So I come up with this. (If I did conversion or calculation wrong, please be kind to let me know and I will fix it.)

Name Weight(g) Weight(oz) Balance(cm) Balance(inch) Lenghth Length(inch) headlight(in.) points HL
DANIEL NESTOR 374 13.19 29.1 11.46 69.5 27.36 2.22 17.80
JUAN MONACO 367 12.95 31.4 12.36 70 27.56 1.42 11.34
MARIO ANCIC 366 12.91 29.3 11.54 69 27.17 2.05 16.38
JAMES BLAKE 365 12.88 30.5 12.01 68.5 26.97 1.48 11.81
KEVIN ULLYETT 360 12.70 29.5 11.61 70 27.56 2.17 17.32
STANISLAS WAWRINKA 359 12.66 31 12.20 68.5 26.97 1.28 10.24
MAX MIRNYI 359 12.66 30.4 11.97 68.5 26.97 1.52 12.13
ANDREAS SEPPI 356 12.56 30.8 12.13 70 27.56 1.65 13.23
NICOLAS KIEFER 350 12.35 32.2 12.68 69 27.17 0.91 7.24
JONAS BJORKMAN 349 12.31 30.2 11.89 70 27.56 1.89 15.12
JUAN-IGNACIO CHELA 349 12.31 32.8 12.91 70 27.56 0.87 6.93
RICHARD GASQUET 349 12.31 31.5 12.40 68.5 26.97 1.08 8.66
JARKKO NIEMINEM 348 12.28 30.5 12.01 71 27.95 1.97 15.75
ARNAUD CLEMENT 348 12.28 30.8 12.13 70.5 27.76 1.75 14.02
SIMON ASPELIN 348 12.28 31 12.20 68.5 26.97 1.28 10.24
NICOLAS LAPENTTI 348 12.28 31.5 12.40 68.5 26.97 1.08 8.66
PAVEL VIZNER 347 12.24 31 12.20 69.5 27.36 1.48 11.81
IVO KARLOVIC 347 12.24 31.5 12.40 69 27.17 1.18 9.45
VINCENT SPADEA 347 12.24 30.5 12.01 68.5 26.97 1.48 11.81
FILIPPO VOLANDRI 347 12.24 30.8 12.13 68.5 26.97 1.36 10.87
SEBASTIEN GROSJEAN 345 12.17 31.7 12.48 71 27.95 1.50 11.97
NENAD ZIMONJIC 344 12.13 30.7 12.09 69.5 27.36 1.59 12.76
PAUL HANLEY 340 11.99 30.4 11.97 70 27.56 1.81 14.49
TOMMY ROBREDO 340 11.99 31.5 12.40 69.5 27.36 1.28 10.24
MARC GICQUEL 340 11.99 31.2 12.28 68.5 26.97 1.20 9.61
PAUL-HENRI MATHIEU 338 11.92 31.3 12.32 68.5 26.97 1.16 9.29
NICOLAS ALMAGRO 337 11.89 31.2 12.28 68.5 26.97 1.20 9.61
POTITO STARACE 336 11.85 31 12.20 68.5 26.97 1.28 10.24
G.GARCIA LOPEZ 336 11.85 31.5 12.40 68.5 26.97 1.08 8.66
J.W TSONGA 335 11.82 31 12.20 69.5 27.36 1.48 11.81
FERNANDO VERDASCO 335 11.82 30.4 11.97 68.5 26.97 1.52 12.13
MICHAEL LLODRA 333 11.75 30.8 12.13 68.5 26.97 1.36 10.87
OLIVIER ROCHUS 331 11.68 31.1 12.24 71.5 28.15 1.83 14.65
THOMAS JOHANSSON 331 11.68 31.2 12.28 68.5 26.97 1.20 9.61
JC FERRERO 330 11.64 32.5 12.80 71.5 28.15 1.28 10.24
DAVID FERRER 330 11.64 32 12.60 71 27.95 1.38 11.02
NIKOLAY DAVYDENKO 330 11.64 32 12.60 70 27.56 1.18 9.45
FABRICE SANTORO 328 11.57 31 12.20 71 27.95 1.77 14.17
GILLES SIMON 327 11.53 31 12.20 68.5 26.97 1.28 10.24
MIKHAIL YOUZHNY 320 11.29 31 12.20 68.5 26.97 1.28 10.24
RAFAEL NADAL 319 11.25 32.5 12.80 68.5 26.97 0.69 5.51
ALBERT MONTANES 316 11.15 33 12.99 70 27.56 0.79 6.30
JURGEN MELZER 314 11.08 31.2 12.28 70.5 27.76 1.59 12.76
FELICIANO LOPEZ 312 11.01 32.4 12.76 70 27.56 1.02 8.19
CARLOS MOYA 306 10.79 36.2 14.25 69 27.17 -0.67 -5.35

ten11
10-08-2012, 12:37 PM
To my surprise, the average of head light is 10.88 points.
max 17.80
total player is 45
great than 10 point headlight: 30
great than 8 point headlight: 39
great than 6 point headlight: 42

If you want the excel file I have with macro, let me know and I can share with you.

TennisCJC
10-08-2012, 01:22 PM
Are these strung or unstrung specs? The average of 10.88 points HL is a bit surprising.

ten11
10-08-2012, 01:32 PM
Are these strung or unstrung specs? The average of 10.88 points HL is a bit surprising.

based on this link, it is unstrung spec.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4422572&postcount=5

TennisCJC
10-09-2012, 06:44 AM
Then the 10.88 average points HL for unstrung would move about 3 points to 7.88 average points HL on strung rackets.

The weight would also increase 16-19 grams. So, the average weight of 12.022 oz would go up to about 12.622 oz.

Basically, modern pros are still play fairly heavy rackets with a HL balance. Same as 30 years ago but just a wee bit lighter.

Prodigy1234
10-09-2012, 03:29 PM
It seems anyone from Gilles Simon down would get pushed around.

ten11
10-09-2012, 06:05 PM
It seems anyone from Gilles Simon down would get pushed around.

The list is sorted by the weight of the unstrung racquet in reverse order.

One of the many things amazed me is the last one, Carlos Moya, seems he used stock pure drive with nothing add to it. Even Nadal only got 19 gram more than stock aeropro drive. Make me wonder if these pros can use it as is, why can't I?

Prodigy1234
10-10-2012, 05:00 AM
I know the weight is unstrung, maybe Simon was pushing it, how about from MIKHAIL YOUZHNY down. I mean Mikhail's racquet strung is about 11.89 ounces, I know plenty of people that use a heavier racquet than that

TennisCJC
10-10-2012, 06:39 AM
The list is sorted by the weight of the unstrung racquet in reverse order.

One of the many things amazed me is the last one, Carlos Moya, seems he used stock pure drive with nothing add to it. Even Nadal only got 19 gram more than stock aeropro drive. Make me wonder if these pros can use it as is, why can't I?

Moya's spec above are 6 Head Heavy unstrung. Strung, it would be around 9 points Head Heavy. Is the stock version of this racket really that head heavy? There is another thread somewhere in the forum with more details on a Moya racket, but I think he added lead to the head to make it so HH and had a swing weight around 370 grams.

Nadal is not head heavy but less head light than most. He also adds lead to the head and his swing weight is pretty high too - over 350 grams.

Neither uses a stock racket and both have high swing weights.