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kragster
10-15-2012, 01:27 PM
Are you hoping for a blockbuster year (finishes no 1, multiple slams etc) or would you be satisfied with a decent year (say 1 slam +2-3 Masters)

Personally my baseline hopes of Rafa in 2013 are that he wins a slam (other than RG) and 3 Masters and ends the year within the top 2. Anything on top would be a bonus.

Ico
10-15-2012, 01:31 PM
Top 2 is your baseline hope? Sure, buddy.

The-Champ
10-15-2012, 01:33 PM
To play all year and win another FO.

Towser83
10-15-2012, 01:34 PM
If I was a Rafa fan at this point I would just be hoping he is back playing and healthy all year. If so, the rest should fall into place and he has a good chance of RG and a masters or two, because logically as long as he is in good shape it would take an insane performance to beat him at RG. But it must be very frustrating not knowing when he'll even be back.

To be honest after about 6 months out, a year as good as even last year would be good. I like Delpotro a lot and when he came back my best hopes were to get back in the top 8 and get to at least a slam semi. Obviously Nadalis much much better but still. Not to cause offence, but hoping for top 2 and a slam other than RG and 3 masters as a baseline may be a touch ... I don't want to say greedy, because that's not what I mean, but a year like that after being out for so long seems on the higher end of hopes especially when you look at the last 2 years and most years he's had on tour. I mean 2005 - 2012, 8 seasons, only 3 have been better than your baseline.

2005 - 1 slam and 4 masters (just beating your baseline by one master, and the slam was RG)
2008 - 2 slams and 3 masters
2010 - 3 slams and 3 masters

vive le beau jeu !
10-15-2012, 01:35 PM
a fryin'pan-less season with a WSOP title and a positive H2H with tiger woods.

tennis_pro
10-15-2012, 01:36 PM
As a true fan of the Nadal wink wink I hope he wins 243 majors, 1325 Masters titles is ranked 1st or higher and wins 113 % of his matches.

Roddick85
10-15-2012, 01:56 PM
My only hope for 2013 is to see Rafa back in action and stay healthy. Whether you like him or not, you cannot deny that he brings more star power in any tournament he enters. While i'm far from a fan of his play style, I have a lot of respect for him and he makes any matches more exciting. I would love to see him resume his rivalry with Federer / Djokovic and hopefully produce a few other classic matches.

Clarky21
10-15-2012, 02:04 PM
To play a match that is not part of an exo.

Mustard
10-15-2012, 02:06 PM
Another French Open would be great to get to 8 French Opens won. Most importantly, I want to see him back playing again.

TheF1Bob
10-15-2012, 02:08 PM
He'll probably have a great cc season like he always does but that's about it.

Top 10 too good for Rafa on other surfaces not clay.

Ms Nadal
10-15-2012, 03:04 PM
I just want Rafa to return! I miss him! I am happy that Rafa did well during the clay and won 7th RG. But, Wimby was a downer and we haven't seen him since.

Carsomyr
10-15-2012, 03:07 PM
a fryin'pan-less season with a WSOP title and a positive H2H with tiger woods.

:lol:

That was pretty good.

Ms Nadal
10-15-2012, 03:14 PM
In 2013, I want Rafa to return! sweep the clay season and win 9th MC and 8th RG!. That would be so amazing! That is all I ask for at this time! But he must return first! I miss Rafa so much. Tennis is boring without him|!. As I have nobody to cheer for.

kishnabe
10-15-2012, 05:55 PM
Not a Rafa fan....but I hope he plays a healthy full season. I also hope he wins Australian but loses the French.

More Importantly, Nadal has to put Murray back to reality.

Prisoner of Birth
10-15-2012, 06:08 PM
Win Australian, not win the French so we can have a non-routine winner, top 3 rank. And, of course, a full injury-free season. Pretty much the same as above but I have nothing against Murray.

Rjtennis
10-15-2012, 06:11 PM
He'll probably have a great cc season like he always does but that's about it.

Top 10 too good for Rafa on other surfaces not clay.

That hasn't been true thus far. He might be more tentative on HC, but he should still do well on clay and grass as well. And improved Murray makes things more interesting. He has been Nadal's whipping boy in the semi's at slams for a while. If wonder if Murray 2.0 can change that on HC.

Prisoner of Birth
10-15-2012, 06:15 PM
That hasn't been true thus far. He might be more tentative on HC, but he should still do well on clay and grass as well. And improved Murray makes things more interesting. He has been Nadal's whipping boy in the semi's at slams for a while. If wonder if Murray 2.0 can change that on HC.

I'd actually favor Olympic-form Murray over Nadal, Djokovic and Federer at Wimbledon.

BrooklynNY
10-15-2012, 06:17 PM
I think Nadal is going to come out of the gate flying when he comes back. When has he ever not?

I'm thinking he is going to dominate the clay court season and only lose a Rome final to Djokovic. He was far too dominant back then to not be dominant still. He used to win every match 6-0 6-2 or 6-1 6-3..... with guys barely even getting 5 games in a set.
No real reason to think he can't simply win all of the clay court events winning 6-4 7-5 or 7-6 6-3, or possibly even play more than 1 3-set clay court match in like 3 years?

PeteD
10-15-2012, 06:27 PM
I would be happy just to see the man step onto a tennis court. Then I think he would be well advised not to push it real hard, but build up gradually. Winning a slam right away for a guy with screwed-up knees? Give the guy a break for a few months or more. Delpo was out for a year, and wasn't Scud out for a couple of years?

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4523466/rafael_nadal_loses_to_david_ferrer31.jpg

veroniquem
10-15-2012, 07:07 PM
1- That he plays competitive tennis!!! (obvious pre-requisite :oops:)
2- That he wins title(s) off clay
3- That he wins his 8th RG
4- That he wins his 22nd master
5- That he wins 7 out of the 9 masters to equal Djoko, Agassi and Fed
6- That he wins WTF

Clarky21
10-15-2012, 07:37 PM
1- That he plays competitive tennis!!! (obvious pre-requisite :oops:)
2- That he wins title(s) off clay
3- That he wins his 8th RG
4- That he wins his 22nd master
5- That he wins 7 out of the 9 masters to equal Djoko, Agassi and Fed
6- That he wins WTF



You sure do have big dreams don't you? Lol.

RAFA2005RG
10-15-2012, 08:31 PM
Are you hoping for a blockbuster year (finishes no 1, multiple slams etc) or would you be satisfied with a decent year (say 1 slam +2-3 Masters)

Personally my baseline hopes of Rafa in 2013 are that he wins a slam (other than RG) and 3 Masters and ends the year within the top 2. Anything on top would be a bonus.

Thanks to the break he's had this year he'll be in much better shape in 2013 than he was in 2012. And in 2012 he only dropped one set at Roland Garros. So obviously my expectation is that he doesn't drop any sets at Roland Garros, wins Wimbledon and wins at least one of the hardcourt slams. He will easily finish number one. He's only defending a 2nd Round at Wimbledon and nothing at the US Open.

Hood_Man
10-15-2012, 10:26 PM
To come back healthy.

beast of mallorca
10-16-2012, 12:52 AM
The big fan in me, well the greedy one, hopes and prays for him to get the BIG win of a Calendar Year Grand Slam and a WTF at the end of the year. A Miami Masters, Paris Masters and a Cincinnati Masters will be icing on the lot.

I know this is a 'mission impossible', but I'm sure Fed fans around here have that wishful thinking as well.

The realistic side of me, will hope for the FO 2013 and another slam + 3 Masters in clay + 1 in hardcourt, maybe the "true slam" of them all (RIGHT SURESH), Cincinnati. Just so it would be a different year.

Hope nobody shoots me for the above. I am a fan as you know. And I want my favourite to get the BIG ones. Maybe one of the upstarts can get a Masters or a GS F or SF at least. (Nishikori, Goffin, Klizan or maybe....FILIP PELIWO :) )

kalyan4fedever
10-16-2012, 01:27 AM
As a rafa fan, i think he will be a huge hit or a total failure.

Feather
10-16-2012, 01:31 AM
Are you hoping for a blockbuster year (finishes no 1, multiple slams etc) or would you be satisfied with a decent year (say 1 slam +2-3 Masters)

Personally my baseline hopes of Rafa in 2013 are that he wins a slam (other than RG) and 3 Masters and ends the year within the top 2. Anything on top would be a bonus.

Rafa will certainly win one slam and one Masters. I don't think he would lose at either RG or Monte Carlo. He has a very good chance of winning Rome masters as well. Worst case, one RG and one Masters.

Hitman
10-16-2012, 02:20 AM
Rafa is still the King of Clay. So until he is dethroned, I have him at least winning RG and a couple of Masters on clay.

It's his non clay season that I am not optimistic about.

furryballs
10-16-2012, 02:36 AM
i hope to see him play Rosol in the 1st round round of the OZ open

furryballs
10-16-2012, 02:37 AM
with the roof closed

christinamaniac7
10-16-2012, 02:51 AM
First off, Want him to win his 2nd AO.
Then Win MC masters for 9th time...
When it comes to RG, def want him to win for 8th time.
Reach #1 position once again,
Win miami &/or cincy for the first time.
Also win a 3rd GS one of W or USO, doesn't matter which as long as he would win 3 slams once more.

And also win the YEC for the fist time...

Rocky89
10-16-2012, 02:57 AM
I just want to see him play some tennis, be healthy and have an injury free year.

No way will he win AO as some people are suggesting...I personally am hoping he will get past the first round.

SQA333
10-16-2012, 03:03 AM
My hopes for Rafa in 2013 are as follows:

1) He retires.

#Federer300 :D

OverratedIvanovic
10-16-2012, 03:11 AM
I am not sure if he will ever be the same again? I will be more than happy as long as he can win RG and his usual clay masters. Anything more than that is a bonus really.

Alchemy-Z
10-16-2012, 03:17 AM
I'll be happy just to see him back on court.

I hope to see him go deep at the AO
I hope to see #9 MC
I hope to see #8 FO
I hope to see #3 Wimbledon

I don't have much hope for hard court tournaments I kinda feel like if he's not feeling 100% he will let them slide and find points else where.


but my 100% hope is he stays injury free

sdont
10-16-2012, 03:57 AM
He will easily finish number one. He's only defending a 2nd Round at Wimbledon and nothing at the US Open.

Careful there, you slipped.

Wrong account (see my sig).

NDFM
10-16-2012, 03:59 AM
First hope: return healthy
Win a hard court title, he needs to end this title drought.
Extend his record at Monte Carlo and FO, but I would prefer him to win a hard court title
Win Miami for the first time.

Main hope: stay relatively injury free in 2013

kragster
10-16-2012, 04:08 AM
Rafa will certainly win one slam and one Masters. I don't think he would lose at either RG or Monte Carlo. He has a very good chance of winning Rome masters as well. Worst case, one RG and one Masters.

I agree although I much rather he win something else other than RG or MC. As another poster pointed out he needs to break his HC event drought.

Towser83
10-16-2012, 05:41 AM
You sure do have big dreams don't you? Lol.

I know you don't think he can win anything but if he won Miami, rg and the Wtf that would fulfil all of vero's criteria.

The big fan in me, well the greedy one, hopes and prays for him to get the BIG win of a Calendar Year Grand Slam and a WTF at the end of the year. A Miami Masters, Paris Masters and a Cincinnati Masters will be icing on the lot.

I know this is a 'mission impossible', but I'm sure Fed fans around here have that wishful thinking as well.

The realistic side of me, will hope for the FO 2013 and another slam + 3 Masters in clay + 1 in hardcourt, maybe the "true slam" of them all (RIGHT SURESH), Cincinnati. Just so it would be a different year.

Hope nobody shoots me for the above. I am a fan as you know. And I want my favourite to get the BIG ones. Maybe one of the upstarts can get a Masters or a GS F or SF at least. (Nishikori, Goffin, Klizan or maybe....FILIP PELIWO :) )


Not shooting you but your realistic scenario has Nadal having his 2nd best year on tour ever. after being out for 6 months.

CMM
10-16-2012, 05:53 AM
Not shooting you but your realistic scenario has Nadal having his 2nd best year on tour ever. after being out for 6 months.

He will be hungry and rested.

NatF
10-16-2012, 06:05 AM
Considering the depth of the field these days Nadal should reach the semi finals of every event he enters almost. I'm not a fan but I'd be very surprised if he didn't win a slam and some masters. I feel like Djokovic will take the lead in their rivalry again next year though.

kragster
10-16-2012, 06:19 AM
If I was a Rafa fan at this point I would just be hoping he is back playing and healthy all year. If so, the rest should fall into place and he has a good chance of RG and a masters or two, because logically as long as he is in good shape it would take an insane performance to beat him at RG. But it must be very frustrating not knowing when he'll even be back.

To be honest after about 6 months out, a year as good as even last year would be good. I like Delpotro a lot and when he came back my best hopes were to get back in the top 8 and get to at least a slam semi. Obviously Nadalis much much better but still. Not to cause offence, but hoping for top 2 and a slam other than RG and 3 masters as a baseline may be a touch ... I don't want to say greedy, because that's not what I mean, but a year like that after being out for so long seems on the higher end of hopes especially when you look at the last 2 years and most years he's had on tour. I mean 2005 - 2012, 8 seasons, only 3 have been better than your baseline.

2005 - 1 slam and 4 masters (just beating your baseline by one master, and the slam was RG)
2008 - 2 slams and 3 masters
2010 - 3 slams and 3 masters

I think you're right that my baseline itself is optimistic, however I guess the reality is that I feel that 2013 is the last year where Rafa can be considered in his prime and if he doesn't make a big impact in 2013, I just don't see him making an impact in 2014. In 2014/2015, I think I'm ok with Rafa being a force mainly on clay. In 2013, I'd like to see some good results from Rafa on other surfaces.

beast of mallorca
10-16-2012, 06:28 AM
I know you don't think he can win anything but if he won Miami, rg and the Wtf that would fulfil all of vero's criteria.




Not shooting you but your realistic scenario has Nadal having his 2nd best year on tour ever. after being out for 6 months.

I did put "hope" in there. He was out for mos as well last 2010 (though not 6 mos) but still manage to grab 3 GS. So getting 2 next year is still probable....on a realistic side I mean.

I like your avatar. That is Wolowitz from TBBT right ?

RF20Lennon
10-16-2012, 06:37 AM
i'm Not a rafa fan but I hope he will return fresh in 2013

beast of mallorca
10-16-2012, 06:41 AM
I'm Nita rafa fan but I hope hw will return fresh in 2013

Thank you. :)

DRII
10-16-2012, 06:43 AM
another 2010 would be nice...

NatF
10-16-2012, 06:45 AM
I did put "hope" in there. He was out for mos as well last 2010 (though not 6 mos) but still manage to grab 3 GS. So getting 2 next year is still probable....on a realistic side I mean.

I like your avatar. That is Wolowitz from TBBT right ?

He wasn't out nearly this long in 2009, he was back for the US Open, WTFs etc...He had alot of time to get match practice in. Alot of Rafa fans were saying that 2012 would be his year after 2011 as well. But realistically if fit he's got a chance in basically every tournament he enters. I don't know if it's probable for him to grab 2 GS's though, I think a better word would be possible.

beast of mallorca
10-16-2012, 06:50 AM
He wasn't out nearly this long in 2009, he was back for the US Open, WTFs etc...He had alot of time to get match practice in. Alot of Rafa fans were saying that 2012 would be his year after 2011 as well. But realistically if fit he's got a chance in basically every tournament he enters. I don't know if it's probable for him to grab 2 GS's though, I think a better word would be possible.

I get your drift man. But I'm a big Rafa fan so, I'm being optimistic.

rommil
10-16-2012, 06:53 AM
Rafa will do a Felix Baumgartner:)

NatF
10-16-2012, 06:55 AM
I think next season is going to be really unpredictable. Nole is going to hungry after the disappointments, Andy is playing his best tennis ever, Rafa has big question marks due to his injury and who knows how many good runs Federer might have left in the tank.

ivan_the_terrible
10-16-2012, 07:34 AM
I hope his agent, Benito, files a lawsuit against everyone who insinuate Rafa is on PEDS.

vive le beau jeu !
10-16-2012, 09:28 AM
Rafa will do a Felix Baumgartner:)
a parachute isn't even necessary... flight of the golden bull of imaginjury ! :)

http://i45.tinypic.com/1zhtzp.jpg

Towser83
10-16-2012, 09:42 AM
I think you're right that my baseline itself is optimistic, however I guess the reality is that I feel that 2013 is the last year where Rafa can be considered in his prime and if he doesn't make a big impact in 2013, I just don't see him making an impact in 2014. In 2014/2015, I think I'm ok with Rafa being a force mainly on clay. In 2013, I'd like to see some good results from Rafa on other surfaces.

Yeah i know what you mean. Nadal may well go on to have a great 2013. its so hard to tell if his 2010 was a one off season or if he can have a similar year again. if he can then as long as he gets back in form it could be a good year. the thing is with Nadal he's never had back to back seasons where he's been the top player so its hard to predict when his peak has been a bit off and on and not a straight trajectory.

Towser83
10-16-2012, 09:50 AM
I did put "hope" in there. He was out for mos as well last 2010 (though not 6 mos) but still manage to grab 3 GS. So getting 2 next year is still probable....on a realistic side I mean.

I like your avatar. That is Wolowitz from TBBT right ?

You mean when he was out in 2009? He did great the following year but he had only been out for about 6 weeks plus no one expected him to do so well in 2010 so its still more of an exception to his usual seasons. not to be raining on your parade, just saying it would be a big surprise if he had his 3rd best ever season, but hey if he plays well enough he can do it.

My avatar is Pete Townshend from music legends "the who" (rest of the band just visable) not Howard from the big bang. but i know its hard to make out when its so small.

Mike Sams
10-16-2012, 09:55 AM
I want Rafa to start making more semifinals and finals on hardcourt because he is robbing players like Murray and Djokovic of their chances to increase their wins in the H2H.
This year, Djokovic has given Nadal 3 clay meetings so that Nadal can increase his win column in the H2H and Nadal has only given Djokovic 1 chance at the AO. If Nadal would stop messing around and start going deep in the 4 hardcourt Masters, Djokovic could begin to even things up. It's only fair. Why should Djokovic give Nadal all the opportunities to increase the H2H on Nadal's favourite surface of clay while Nadal won't do the same for Djokovic on Djokovic's best surface on hardcourts?

RF20Lennon
10-16-2012, 10:26 AM
I want Rafa to start making more semifinals and finals on hardcourt because he is robbing players like Murray and Djokovic of their chances to increase their wins in the H2H.
This year, Djokovic has given Nadal 3 clay meetings so that Nadal can increase his win column in the H2H and Nadal has only given Djokovic 1 chance at the AO. If Nadal would stop messing around and start going deep in the 4 hardcourt Masters, Djokovic could begin to even things up. It's only fair. Why should Djokovic give Nadal all the opportunities to increase the H2H on Nadal's favourite surface of clay while Nadal won't do the same for Djokovic on Djokovic's best surface on hardcourts?

If only did that in 2004-2007 haha xD

rommil
10-16-2012, 04:07 PM
a parachute isn't even necessary... flight of the golden bull of imaginjury ! :)

http://i45.tinypic.com/1zhtzp.jpg

Lolx10redbulls:)

MichaelNadal
10-16-2012, 08:57 PM
I just want him to play and be healthy. If I could choose a major for him to win it would be Wimby or the USO.

NadalAgassi
10-16-2012, 09:22 PM
I think if healthy he should win the French and has a huge shot to win Wimbledon if he survives his usual first week scare. A hard court slam is possible too, more likely the U.S than Australia as while I expect him to play not sure he will be ready to win that early.

Sabratha
10-17-2012, 11:34 AM
I hope he comes back and defends his final at the Australian Open.

Steve0904
10-17-2012, 11:51 AM
I think if healthy he should win the French and has a huge shot to win Wimbledon if he survives his usual first week scare. A hard court slam is possible too, more likely the U.S than Australia as while I expect him to play not sure he will be ready to win that early.

Bit over the top here wouldn't you say?

Sabratha
10-17-2012, 12:00 PM
Bit over the top here wouldn't you say?
Nadal has done something similar before.

Steve0904
10-17-2012, 12:29 PM
Nadal has done something similar before.

Not really. He skipped Wimbledon in 2009, but he was back for Montreal, and played the rest of his events. If he plays in Australia, he'll still have missed 6 months. Nowhere near what happened in 2009 really.

Besides the fact that Nadal is not getting any younger, and Djokovic has gotten infintely better, Murray has a first slam, and Federer is still in the discussion. Nadal has surprised me before, but this is too much. Nadal feeds off playing as many matches as he can get so I'll be surprised if he's not rusty as opposed to rested.

Sabratha
10-17-2012, 01:17 PM
Not really. He skipped Wimbledon in 2009, but he was back for Montreal, and played the rest of his events. If he plays in Australia, he'll still have missed 6 months. Nowhere near what happened in 2009 really.

Besides the fact that Nadal is not getting any younger, and Djokovic has gotten infintely better, Murray has a first slam, and Federer is still in the discussion. Nadal has surprised me before, but this is too much. Nadal feeds off playing as many matches as he can get so I'll be surprised if he's not rusty as opposed to rested.
Nadal is 26 years old, his current playing style hasn't resulted in any injuries requiring surgery, and until that happens (or when he hits 28-29) is when I will stop believing he can achieve this.

Steve0904
10-17-2012, 01:35 PM
Nadal is 26 years old, his current playing style hasn't resulted in any injuries requiring surgery, and until that happens (or when he hits 28-29) is when I will stop believing he can achieve this.

Yes, but there is a difference between being realistic, and believing in something that has a very slim chance of happening. He hasn't won anything off of clay since 2010, and now you're telling me he can win 3 slams. Like I said, he's not getting any younger, and he now has a crutch in Djokovic, and an improved Murray to deal with, and Federer is still there. You compare that with 2010 and it's not even close. Djokovic was serving more DF's than aces, Murray was "old" Murray, and Federer had a terrible 2010. All I'm saying is it's highly unlikely.

Crisstti
10-17-2012, 02:42 PM
Rafa was in three slam finals just in 2011. And then the AO and RG. I wouldn't say it's extremely unlikely (while obviously an optimistic idea).

Hope, I hope he's healthy and stays that way. That he wins a slam, any of them. And a couple masters. It's what I expect if he's healthy anyway. One obviously can hope for a lot more...

He wasn't out nearly this long in 2009, he was back for the US Open, WTFs etc...He had alot of time to get match practice in. Alot of Rafa fans were saying that 2012 would be his year after 2011 as well. But realistically if fit he's got a chance in basically every tournament he enters. I don't know if it's probable for him to grab 2 GS's though, I think a better word would be possible.

He wasn't out so long in 2009, but he wasn't fine when he came back, which he will be this time if he sticks to his word and only comes back when he's 100% fine.

Clarky21
10-17-2012, 02:46 PM
Rafa was in three slam finals just in 2011. And then the AO and RG. I wouldn't say it's extremely unlikely (while obviously an optimistic idea).

Hope, I hope he's healthy and stays that way. That he wins a slam, any of them. And a couple masters. It's what I expect if he's healthy anyway. One obviously can hope for a lot more...



He wasn't out so long in 2009, but he wasn't fine when he came back, which he will be this time if he sticks to his word and only comes back when he's 100% fine.



But he will be extrememly rusty and out of form. He will get torched repeatedly until he gets significant match practice in. And who says he will even be able to do that considering his injured all the time. I really hope he loses early for a while after he comes back to avoid getting smoked by the top 3. He stands zero chance against those guys.

SoBad
10-17-2012, 03:11 PM
Nadal needs some rest time to regroup. If he wins a couple of ATP100 tournaments in 2013, I would be very happy. Anything beyond that is a bonus.

Crisstti
10-17-2012, 03:14 PM
But he will be extrememly rusty and out of form. He will get torched repeatedly until he gets significant match practice in. And who says he will even be able to do that considering his injured all the time. I really hope he loses early for a while after he comes back to avoid getting smoked by the top 3. He stands zero chance against those guys.

He will be rusty, no doubt. He's said he's been working in the gym a lot though so as not to be out of shape.

I sure don't expect him to win the AO.

He beat Fed early in 2006 I think, after having been out for like 4 months.

Towser83
10-17-2012, 03:15 PM
clay season will be vital as always, but more so this year. I wouldn't expect too much til then, if he does well then all credit to him, but clay is a surface where he can be miles below his best and still only lose if the other guy is playing amazing tennis.He'll go deep in the clay events and get into form.

NadalAgassi
10-17-2012, 03:24 PM
Bit over the top here wouldn't you say?

I dont think so. I am not saying I EXPECT al those things to happen, but they are in no way unrealistic to hope for or unreasonable when evaluating his possabilities if he makes a strong return.

Nadal is the 2nd most accomplished player in the game the last 15 years behind Federer, and Federer is 31 now. Nadal is still only 26. Nadal at his best has won French, Wimbledon, Olympics on hards, and Australian Open all within 8 months, and then another time won French, Wimbledon, U.S Open in a row in a 4 month stretch. He would have duplicated or exceeded that with a 3rd dominant stretch in 2011 had it not been for Novak Djokovic hitting his own GOAT levels which he might well never reach again. Why on earth would thinking he coud go on another such run be unrealistic, unless he never returns the same player which is possible and something that only time will tell on.

Nadal until this years Wimbledon was the most consistently strong grass courter the last 4 or 5 years of anyone including Federer. Federer being 31, Djokovic not being a great grass courter, and Murray being 0-3 vs Nadal at Wimbledon, thinking Nadal has a great shot at Wimbledon if fit and in strong form by then is not in the least unrealistic.

Hard court slams will never come easily for Nadal even at the best of times but he is also fully capable of contending to win them if at his best. There isnt a dominant hard court player in the post Federer era, with Djokovic coming closest. The last hard court slam he played he should have won.

cc0509
10-17-2012, 06:32 PM
Nadal is the 2nd most accomplished player in the game the last 15 years behind Federer, and Federer is 31 now. Nadal is still only 26. Nadal at his best has won French, Wimbledon, Olympics on hards, and Australian Open all within 8 months, and then another time won French, Wimbledon, U.S Open in a row in a 4 month stretch. He would have duplicated or exceeded that with a 3rd dominant stretch in 2011 had it not been for Novak Djokovic hitting his own GOAT levels which he might well never reach again. Why on earth would thinking he coud go on another such run be unrealistic, unless he never returns the same player which is possible and something that only time will tell on.


On the other hand Djokovic may go on a roll again, you never know. He is still at the peak of his powers. All he needs is a few wins in tournaments to get the super confidence back. Right now we have no way of knowing what will happen in future Djokovic/Nadal matches off clay. Then you have to factor Murray in these days off clay. Murray is probably currently a better hard court player than Nadal is and he knows how to defeat Nadal on HC.

furryballs
10-17-2012, 11:51 PM
if nadal loses before the quarters at the AO he wont play again.

beast of mallorca
10-18-2012, 12:25 AM
if nadal loses before the quarters at the AO he wont play again.

Is that your Christmas wish to Santa ? Have you been a good boy ? :twisted:

Zarfot Z
10-18-2012, 12:26 AM
He wins all four slams, all Masters, beats Federer 6-3 6-0 in the WTF and finishes YE #1 with a lead of over 9000 points.