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USArmyTennis
10-23-2012, 09:53 AM
I currently play with Head Microgel Extreme Pro MP. I've found it a bit too stiff to my liking after returning to tennis a few months ago. I'm stationed in Hawaii so it is hard to find demos of racquets minus the big three, so I was wondering what peoples opinions of this racquet line, especially compared to the Extreme. I've had a little bad form that has left me with a sore wrist. I'm a 4.5 player, aggressive all courter, semi western FH with 2HBH and I'm trying to find a racquet with a bit more comfort and control to be able to drive into the balls without fear of them going long. Also I've been stringing with co-poly's.

zapvor
10-23-2012, 10:03 AM
if you want less stiff, dont go tecnifibre. they are great great frames, but on the stiff side

MikeHitsHard93
10-23-2012, 10:15 AM
Radical mp

vergica
10-23-2012, 10:16 AM
I do have arm issues ( TE) and playing with a Tfight 320 ( 66 as stiffness) I do not find it agravating my TE, though I am using Full Nat gut ( 58/61).
Also using a Wilson-shield grip/ with double over grip/ and a big dampener.

Also added some lead at 3/9. It weights now 375 grams ( 10HL).

USArmyTennis
10-23-2012, 10:48 AM
I don't really feel the stiffness of the extreme caused my wrist issue. More of operator error. I was fighting to get more spin and really cracking my wrist on my FH to get a heavy ball going and paid the price. Was just interested in taking the stiffness down some to provide a bit more buffer on comfort and gain control. Given all the information available now, I was interested in considering brands I didn't really see growing up(i.e. Tecnifibre, Donnay, etc)

MikeHitsHard93
10-23-2012, 10:54 AM
Wilson pro open is a spin monster. And it has rating of 66 stiffness but feels smooth. My racket of choice atm

zapvor
10-23-2012, 11:14 AM
give donnay a try. or yonex. very plush, very soft. absolute feel

USArmyTennis
10-23-2012, 01:14 PM
I'm going to get some Donnay's sent to me to demo. I can get those sent to hawaii through Donnay for three weeks. I'm going to get a Pro One 97 16x19. trying to decide the other two between the Formula, gold and platinum lines though

atlfalcons12
10-23-2012, 08:12 PM
@ZapVor is right. To me Technifibre is very stiff. I bought a Tecnifibre tfight 305 vo2max without demoing because I wanted to try out the brand. I ended up not liking it as much as my Dunlop Bio 300T. The Dunlop is much more comfortable and puts less stress on my wrist.

vergica
10-24-2012, 06:50 AM
@ZapVor is right. To me Technifibre is very stiff. I bought a Tecnifibre tfight 305 vo2max without demoing because I wanted to try out the brand. I ended up not liking it as much as my Dunlop Bio 300T. The Dunlop is much more comfortable and puts less stress on my wrist.

Tfight 305 vo2 max has a stiffness of 69 ( it does explain you found it to be stiff). tfight 320 vo2 max has it at 66. Does anybody have arm issues with 320 vo2 max?
I am using the 320 vo2 max and I do not find to be stiff. I am worried about my TE ( tfight 320 vo2 max is my choice of playing at the moment).

Chotobaka
10-24-2012, 08:22 AM
Tfight 305 vo2 max has a stiffness of 69 ( it does explain you found it to be stiff). tfight 320 vo2 max has it at 66. Does anybody have arm issues with 320 vo2 max?
I am using the 320 vo2 max and I do not find to be stiff. I am worried about my TE ( tfight 320 vo2 max is my choice of playing at the moment).

I have played with TF T-Fight 295, 320 and 335's. All were very comfortable. Get into the T-Flashes and things really firm up a great deal.

atlfalcons12
10-24-2012, 12:45 PM
I honestly don't find anything special about Tecnifibre racquets. Maybe that's why it is not a popular brand in terms of racquets. However, their strings are great.

ahuimanu
10-25-2012, 12:35 PM
I currently play with Head Microgel Extreme Pro MP. I've found it a bit too stiff to my liking after returning to tennis a few months ago. I'm stationed in Hawaii so it is hard to find demos of racquets minus the big three, so I was wondering what peoples opinions of this racquet line, especially compared to the Extreme. I've had a little bad form that has left me with a sore wrist. I'm a 4.5 player, aggressive all courter, semi western FH with 2HBH and I'm trying to find a racquet with a bit more comfort and control to be able to drive into the balls without fear of them going long. Also I've been stringing with co-poly's.

You might way to try the Technifibre 315's, probably the closest in the TF line...I loved the Head MEPMP's but yes its a little too stiff, heavy and balls do tend to sail, especially on the slice. Another comfortable alternative is the Head Instincts and a soft co-poly.

aussierocks
10-25-2012, 06:33 PM
Try the T Fight 305, absolute sleeper in the range. I used to use the Aero pro drive and find the 305 generates similar spin and power. The 305 is an absolute gem, great swing weight too.

MikeHitsHard93
10-25-2012, 06:50 PM
You might way to try the Technifibre 315's, probably the closest in the TF line...I loved the Head MEPMP's but yes its a little too stiff, heavy and balls do tend to sail, especially on the slice. Another comfortable alternative is the Head Instincts and a soft co-poly.

I'm probably gonna buy an instinct with lux 4G. Sounds like a winning combo for me at least

Power Player
10-25-2012, 07:19 PM
Try the T Fight 305, absolute sleeper in the range. I used to use the Aero pro drive and find the 305 generates similar spin and power. The 305 is an absolute gem, great swing weight too.

Agree. It is a fantastic stick.

Ross K
10-25-2012, 10:20 PM
Try the T Fight 305, absolute sleeper in the range. I used to use the Aero pro drive and find the 305 generates similar spin and power. The 305 is an absolute gem, great swing weight too.

Is it less sluggish than the Speedflex 315? Would appreciate hearing more generally re this frame. It's a new one to me.

zapvor
10-25-2012, 10:23 PM
I honestly don't find anything special about Tecnifibre racquets. Maybe that's why it is not a popular brand in terms of racquets. However, their strings are great.

yep their strings are better product i think as well.

zapvor
10-25-2012, 10:24 PM
I have played with TF T-Fight 295, 320 and 335's. All were very comfortable. Get into the T-Flashes and things really firm up a great deal.

yep the tflash is even stiffer. i think the older models with hexilum were softer...cant remember

zapvor
10-25-2012, 10:25 PM
I'm going to get some Donnay's sent to me to demo. I can get those sent to hawaii through Donnay for three weeks. I'm going to get a Pro One 97 16x19. trying to decide the other two between the Formula, gold and platinum lines though

i just tried the pro one 97 tonight. awesome, awesome plush feel. firm and plush. only issue was it felt too head heavy

SoBad
10-25-2012, 10:27 PM
yep the tflash is even stiffer. i think the older models with hexilum were softer...cant remember

What is "hexilum", if you don't mind me asking?

zapvor
10-25-2012, 10:29 PM
What is "hexilum", if you don't mind me asking?

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SoBad
10-25-2012, 10:30 PM
you know that crazy nano carbon blx liquidmetal hm6carbon biomimetic karophite kevlar hyper thread material thats lighter than a beam of light but 100x stronger than a hungry gorilla

thanks, i'll fax this to the lab, if you don't mind

zapvor
10-25-2012, 10:31 PM
lol let me know what they think

SoBad
10-25-2012, 10:41 PM
lol let me know what they think

i'll put you in touch with the forensic evidence department to ensure uncontaminated chain of evidence

Chotobaka
10-26-2012, 02:42 AM
What is "hexilum", if you don't mind me asking?


TF uses Texalium which was developed and is manufactured by Hexcel. It was originally used in the aerospace industry. Essentially, original Texalium (which is what is used in TF racquets) is carbon fiber with an extremely thin coating of aluminum. It is actually a carbon fiber fabric and is made and sold in rolls. There are now new variants in different colors; the outer coating (i.e. Graphite, Rhodium, etc.) determines the color. Texalium can also be used in hybrid composite panels of Texalium/Fiberglass and Texalium/Kevlar. Performance wise, (so far as TF racquets go), think carbon fibre. By the way, the aluminum coating plays no role in the feel or stiffness of the racquet -- it is cosmetic. It looks like Texalium is used in the throat and other key points, at least from a visual inspection. My older T-Flashes have a clear windows on the throats where the fabric can be seen. Whether it is incorporated into the general layup, I have no idea.

SoBad
10-26-2012, 05:15 PM
TF uses Texalium which was developed and is manufactured by Hexcel. It was originally used in the aerospace industry. Essentially, original Texalium (which is what is used in TF racquets) is carbon fiber with an extremely thin coating of aluminum. It is actually a carbon fiber fabric and is made and sold in rolls. There are now new variants in different colors; the outer coating (i.e. Graphite, Rhodium, etc.) determines the color. Texalium can also be used in hybrid composite panels of Texalium/Fiberglass and Texalium/Kevlar. Performance wise, (so far as TF racquets go), think carbon fibre. By the way, the aluminum coating plays no role in the feel or stiffness of the racquet -- it is cosmetic. It looks like Texalium is used in the throat and other key points, at least from a visual inspection. My older T-Flashes have a clear windows on the throats where the fabric can be seen. Whether it is incorporated into the general layup, I have no idea.

Thanks - I can see what TF and Hexcel are doing with the aerospace blueprints, but I still don't have a good understanding of the specific steps they took to get from Texalium to Hexilum on the t-fight line.

Roger Wawrinka
10-26-2012, 05:30 PM
@Ross K, I would imagine the 305 to be less sluggish then the speedflex, but I cannot say for sure.




Also, anyone have any pictures or info on the new T-fight line?

zapvor
10-26-2012, 07:17 PM
@Ross K, I would imagine the 305 to be less sluggish then the speedflex, but I cannot say for sure.




Also, anyone have any pictures or info on the new T-fight line?

the rep said nothing new. just fresh paint

MikeHitsHard93
10-26-2012, 09:32 PM
What would you compare the 305 to?

vegasgt3
10-26-2012, 09:46 PM
The 320 is a fine racquet, but its pretty stiff. I could play with it, but I couldn't use a poly with it. So, it really depends, but sore wrist the Technifibre and co-poly is not a good idea

Power Player
10-26-2012, 10:08 PM
Is it less sluggish than the Speedflex 315? Would appreciate hearing more generally re this frame. It's a new one to me.

Check the holic thread. I demoed it.

Power Player
10-26-2012, 10:09 PM
What would you compare the 305 to?

6.1 team, blx blade.

Roger Wawrinka
10-27-2012, 08:25 AM
the rep said nothing new. just fresh paint



Okay, got zapvor thanks, but you do not know what I paint looks like? Or if they are going back to the samurai look?:)



R.W

vergica
10-27-2012, 10:43 AM
The 320 is a fine racquet, but its pretty stiff. I could play with it, but I couldn't use a poly with it. So, it really depends, but sore wrist the Technifibre and co-poly is not a good idea

What strings and tension are you using? I have TE and I use NG M58/C61 for tfight 320 vo2 max.

Roger Wawrinka
10-27-2012, 11:45 AM
Tecnifbre's are stiff, but I use the 325 with a full poly, does anyone else use full poly in any of the t-fights?

F. Perry
10-27-2012, 12:12 PM
Tecnifbre's are stiff, but I use the 325 with a full poly, does anyone else use full poly in any of the t-fights?

I do, and I'm in my mid forties and haven't had any arm problems. My friend joked to me the other day that it's because I was a long time PS 85 user.

F. Perry
10-27-2012, 12:45 PM
The TFs are definitely a love-em or hate-em racket. I've heard they're too stiff, have no feel, aren't special, are not as good as TF strings, are arm-killers, but when I demoed 8-10 rackets this spring, the TF 325 was the clear winner of the bunch. I also like certain Wilson rackets, and have a Blade Tour and Blade 98 as back ups, but neither is the equal of the 325 (imho). TW seems unwilling to do a review of the 325, for some reason. Really great rackets that for some reason seem to get kind of a wacky reception among tennis players.

aussierocks
10-28-2012, 06:08 PM
305 weight, swing weight is very close to the APD. I use full poly strung at 55 and love it. Plenty of power, excellent spin and all the T Fights have a solid feel.

rafafan20
10-29-2012, 06:31 AM
I had some arm issues with my bab APD but no arm issues after switching to the 320

melele
10-29-2012, 02:51 PM
I'm playing with 320. I've switched to it two months ago (aprox) and I'm not used to it yet. I don't like it but I don't have enough money to switch to another racket.

320 doesn't have enough control for being a player's frame and it is not enough stable at stock form. Also it has too many open the string pattern, so the racket eats the strings.

As advantages I would say that It has incredible spin and its very maneuverable at net. It's a racket for 4.0 - 4.5 but not more.

Power Player
10-29-2012, 03:17 PM
Just add lead to 3 and 9 and around the handle. Tfibre pros for the most part are using the retail racquets with lead.

melele
10-29-2012, 03:29 PM
Just add lead to 3 and 9 and around the handle. Tfibre pros for the most part are using the retail racquets with lead.

Yes I added lead to 3 and 9 but not around the handle. Now the racket feels better but...I think that it is not for me.:(

TennisCJC
10-30-2012, 07:54 PM
I prefer the older TF line to the new thicker and stiffer frames. The new frames are good but they play more like Babolat PD or AP than the older thinner and softer frames.

If you are looking a quality player's frame with good comfort, try a Volkl Org 10 325, or Dunlop 300, or Dunlop 300 Tour. The new Dunlops I have not demo-ed yet but the older Dunlop 300 Tour was the same mold as the older TF 320.

I would not buy anything without demo-ing but Volkl and Dunlops are great rackets and they are both very comfortable.