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ruud5
10-25-2012, 05:33 AM
Last year playing with the Prokennex Q tour. Good control, friendly on the arm (multi) but difiicult to handle with service (no racketspeed) and return.

Switched to the BB Delta Core London. Very good and also armfriendly (multi on 24 kg Technifibre X-one bi phase) but less control.

Now I am searching for a racket with about the same specs as the London but with better control.

Specs:

Between 95 and 98 inch (level 4 player)
Beam max 20 mm
Armfriendly (flex below 63)
max 11.5 oz
Around 8 pts handle light

Most important:

1. Comfort
2. Control
3. Feel
4. Quality Groundstrokes
5. Quality Return
6. Quality Service

I read a lot about the exo3 100 tour but I heard that the feel is not so good.

Somebody tips for the perfect one for me?

grtz.

TimothyO
10-25-2012, 05:48 AM
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/racquetspecs2.cgi

http://www.racquetfinder.com/

mikeler
10-25-2012, 06:38 AM
Last year playing with the Prokennex Q tour. Good control, friendly on the arm (multi) but difiicult to handle with service (no racketspeed) and return.

Switched to the BB Delta Core London. Very good and also armfriendly (multi on 24 kg Technifibre X-one bi phase) but less control.

Now I am searching for a racket with about the same specs as the London but with better control.

Specs:

Between 95 and 98 inch (level 4 player)
Beam max 20 mm
Armfriendly (flex below 63)
max 11.5 oz
Around 8 pts handle light

Most important:

1. Comfort
2. Control
3. Feel
4. Quality Groundstrokes
5. Quality Return
6. Quality Service

I read a lot about the exo3 100 tour but I heard that the feel is not so good.

Somebody tips for the perfect one for me?

grtz.


The Exo3 100 Tour is a very different racket. The 16 x 18 has much more pop than the 18 x 20 which feels dead to me. Get a demo if you can.

SJSA
10-25-2012, 08:35 AM
I currently play with Tour 16x18. Everything is great except control.
I have researched rackets around 11.5 oz for control and stable.
I came up with Wilson BLX Pro Staff Six.One 95, Head Youtek IG Radical Pro, and Dunlop Biomimetic Max 200G.
Try these rackets.

mrmike
10-25-2012, 08:49 AM
Another one you can look at which fills these specs is the new Dunlop Biomimetic F 3.0 Tour.

anubis
10-25-2012, 08:51 AM
Head IG Youtek Radical MP. Meets all your criteria.

mikeler
10-25-2012, 08:53 AM
I currently play with Tour 16x18. Everything is great except control.
I have researched rackets around 11.5 oz for control and stable.
I came up with Wilson BLX Pro Staff Six.One 95, Head Youtek IG Radical Pro, and Dunlop Biomimetic Max 200G.
Try these rackets.


I have no issues with control. For me, the low flex of the stick makes it hard to generate power on put away ground strokes.

ruud5
10-25-2012, 08:55 AM
Max 200G looks nice!
What about the biomimetic 200?

ruud5
10-25-2012, 09:06 AM
thnks, thnks,

I check them all. I make a sheet.

Dunlop
- Biomimetic Max 200 G
- Biomimetic 200
- F 3.0 tour

Wilson
-Blx Pro Staff six one 95

Head
IG Radical Pro
IG Radical MP

ruud5
10-25-2012, 09:08 AM
I have no issues with control. For me, the low flex of the stick makes it hard to generate power on put away ground strokes.

You talked about the exo3 100?

ruud5
10-25-2012, 09:13 AM
Another one you can look at which fills these specs is the new Dunlop Biomimetic F 3.0 Tour.

Is it armfriendly?

mikeler
10-25-2012, 10:44 AM
You talked about the exo3 100?


Yes.......

ruud5
10-25-2012, 11:55 AM
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/racquetspecs2.cgi

http://www.racquetfinder.com/

no testresults there:)

sunof tennis
10-25-2012, 02:40 PM
Head IG Youtek Radical MP. Meets all your criteria.

Good choice. Also, think the new BLXPS 95 is good for your arm and very much a control racquet.

Chotobaka
10-25-2012, 03:09 PM
I second giving the EXO3 100 Tour a spin. Very soft, but also a very unique feel that took some getting used to. No doubt about comfort, spin and power though.

This racquet swings very easily (feels much lighter than both the stated static and swing-weight) and has an abundance power for me -- much more juiced than my X-Force. I think the string and tension may have a lot to do with the trampoline effect I felt; it was strung up with Sensation that felt loose to me. The X-Force would be another good racquet to demo along side of the EXO3 Tour, as it conveys more direct feel (a more connected feeling) and likewise has an extremely high comfort level.

I have been looking for an extra racquet to keep in my bag for those time when I am completely gassed and I think I may have found it in the EXO3 100 Tour. I will be playing with it for a few more days. I will trying out the Rebel 98 over the weekend which, on paper at least, looks like another stick in a similar vein.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I have been using the 16x18.

Ramon
10-25-2012, 04:07 PM
I second giving the EXO3 100 Tour a spin. Very soft, but also a very unique feel that took some getting used to. No doubt about comfort, spin and power though.

This racquet swings very easily (feels much lighter than both the stated static and swing-weight) and has an abundance power for me -- much more juiced than my X-Force. I think the string and tension may have a lot to do with the trampoline effect I felt; it was strung up with Sensation that felt loose to me. The X-Force would be another good racquet to demo along side of the EXO3 Tour, as it conveys more direct feel (a more connected feeling) and likewise has an extremely high comfort level.

I have been looking for an extra racquet to keep in my bag for those time when I am completely gassed and I think I may have found it in the EXO3 100 Tour. I will be playing with it for a few more days. I will trying out the Rebel 98 over the weekend which, on paper at least, looks like another stick in a similar vein.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I have been using the 16x18.

I'm not looking for a lighter racquet, but if I did, I would probably include the 3 racquets mentioned in this post: Prince EXO3 Tour 100, Pacific X-Force, and Prince Rebel 98.

The EXO3 Tour 100 was too springy for me, especially the 16x18, but both versions were the most comfortable frames I ever demoed. It's worth a shot if arm-friendliness is important. I tried the X-Force Pro (heavier version of the X-Force), and the feel was very good. I almost ended up buying it.

SystemicAnomaly
10-25-2012, 07:20 PM
Have you considered the Volkl V1 Classic or one of the newer Volkl frames? The V1 Classic is only a bit larger than your 98 sq" spec and its beam width at the shaft is 22mm. Do not let it's flex rating fool you. The flex rating is often meaningless -- it is really only measured at the throat and it does not really a good indicator of arm-friendliness for some frames.

There are some racquets was a measured flex in the 50s that are very unfriendly according to quite a few users. The frame shock delivered to the arm (shoulder/elbow/wrist) by the V1 Classic is the lowest I've felt with any racquet -- the flex rating as an indicator of arm-friendliness is meaningless when it comes to this racquet.

It weighs about 10.8 oz strung and is somewhat HL. If you add some weight to the handle, you can make it a lot more HL and still stay under 11.5 oz.

ruud5
10-26-2012, 03:43 AM
Thnks,

What about the Biomimetric 400 tour?

Good specs but is it armfriendly?

Volley123
10-26-2012, 06:21 AM
I demoed the Volkl Organix V1 MP, which felt like butter, still had good depth and pop despite its low weight. A must demo for your criteria

Chotobaka
10-26-2012, 07:07 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Have to add the Organix 10 295 to the demo list if considering any of the lighter Volkl racquets. Terrific racquet that I have demo'd five times and will buy as soon as it goes on sale (I hope!!!). BTW, I have the PB 10 Lite (295 18x20) which is a brick compared to the X-10 295 (16x19). The latter is a terrific racquet. I have been suffering from a long term hand/wrist injury and have had to really switch gears in terms of racquet comfort. I have played with every "arm friendly" Volkl and the Organix series with the Bio-Sensor handles are by far the most comfortable -- by a wide margin.

ruud5
10-26-2012, 07:29 AM
No high scores (TW) for the Organic 10 (295)...!!

Chotobaka
10-26-2012, 07:32 AM
No high scores (TW) for the Organic 10 (295)...!!

"!!" -- WTF does that mean???? Then base your decision strictly on TW scores and do not demo the racquets recommended by people with first hand experience. Have a nice effin' life.

Volley123
10-26-2012, 10:25 AM
V1 did score high on TW ratings, however to Chotobakas point , demoing is the way to go if you can. I bought the PB V1 for $99 because of comparable specs and half the price, but it feels much less soft and also less responsive. I have it strung with NRG 2 @57 lbs, and I am hoping that it gets more comparable as the strings naturally settle in to mid weight.

ruud5
10-26-2012, 01:33 PM
"!!" -- WTF does that mean???? Then base your decision strictly on TW scores and do not demo the racquets recommended by people with first hand experience. Have a nice effin' life.

nice reaction:)
I just "read it" on TW.. (that is where I start with).:)
Its no judgement:):)
Maybe I demo it..

Chotobaka
10-26-2012, 01:44 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^

Did you even read the customer reviews or TW's on this "light" and "comfortable" racquet? It has some of the best feedback for this type of stick.

danix
10-26-2012, 01:45 PM
The London has massive control, I'm not sure what more you could ask for there (other than a 18x20 pattern perhaps).
There's a Q Tour 295 in Europe apparently, that would be the ticket. I don't think you will like the Q5 or Ki5, they have far less control than the QTour and London.

IMO nothing matches a Kinetic for arm comfort. I had to put my Londons on the shelf, even with gut, and switch to a Ki5.

ruud5
10-27-2012, 04:22 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^

Did you even read the customer reviews or TW's on this "light" and "comfortable" racquet? It has some of the best feedback for this type of stick.

I shall do that.

ruud5
10-27-2012, 04:27 AM
The London has massive control, I'm not sure what more you could ask for there (other than a 18x20 pattern perhaps).
There's a Q Tour 295 in Europe apparently, that would be the ticket. I don't think you will like the Q5 or Ki5, they have far less control than the QTour and London.

IMO nothing matches a Kinetic for arm comfort. I had to put my Londons on the shelf, even with gut, and switch to a Ki5.

Thnks. Clear.

ruud5
10-27-2012, 05:24 AM
The London has massive control, I'm not sure what more you could ask for there (other than a 18x20 pattern perhaps).
There's a Q Tour 295 in Europe apparently, that would be the ticket. I don't think you will like the Q5 or Ki5, they have far less control than the QTour and London.

IMO nothing matches a Kinetic for arm comfort. I had to put my Londons on the shelf, even with gut, and switch to a Ki5.

Thnks.
Which one of the Ki5?

smirker
10-27-2012, 09:37 AM
Thnks.
Which one of the Ki5?

There is only the one Ki5 in the US (the 315) in Europe we have the 295 and 315.

ATP100
10-27-2012, 10:26 AM
Not to muddy waters any more then they already are.
Use synthetic gut/nylon as strings will help some.

ruud5
10-28-2012, 02:46 AM
Not to muddy waters any more then they already are.
Use synthetic gut/nylon as strings will help some.

Can you translate this?

ruud5
10-28-2012, 03:10 AM
Which one is it most armfriendly and have the best control?

- IG Radical MP
- Rebel team 98
- Organic 10 (295)
- Delta Core London

Or are there older (classic) types, with the same specs, which are better?

ATP100
10-28-2012, 03:36 AM
Not to muddy waters any more then they already are.
Use synthetic gut/nylon as strings will help some.




Can you translate this?


Don't use poly.......

heninfan99
10-28-2012, 05:52 AM
Dood, just demo a few of the lighter Volkls. As you probably know your BB is made by Volkl.

ruud5
10-28-2012, 10:37 AM
Dood, just demo a few of the lighter Volkls. As you probably know your BB is made by Volkl.

I do that. thnks

TheKingOfTennis
10-28-2012, 11:41 AM
I recommend the Volkl Powerbridge 10 Light!

ruud5
10-29-2012, 08:33 AM
I think that one is a little too light..