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hersito
10-25-2012, 08:27 AM
He is out at least until december.
http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/176276.html

beast of mallorca
10-25-2012, 08:34 AM
Old news. But I guess, now it's official.

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 08:41 AM
It does not change a lot of things as far as WTFs, but it's a great advantage for the Czech Republic in the DC final!

TMF
10-25-2012, 08:44 AM
It does not change a lot of things as far as WTFs, but it's a great advantage for the Czech Republic in the DC final!

Nadal can't win DC alone. It's a team sport.

joeri888
10-25-2012, 08:45 AM
Tipsy is gonna be tipsy tonight :)

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 08:46 AM
Nadal can't win DC alone. It's a team sport.

Yeah, with Stanislas Wawrinka would be a lot easier!

Steve0904
10-25-2012, 08:48 AM
Nadal can't win DC alone. It's a team sport.

True, but he could've helped regardless of the surface.

Steve0904
10-25-2012, 08:49 AM
Tipsy is gonna be tipsy tonight :)

He hasn't locked up 9th place yet.

Rock Strongo
10-25-2012, 08:54 AM
Blablabla YEC is exo blablabla doesn't matter blablabla winning percentage blablabla clay blablabla French Open blablabla H2H vs Federer blablabla doping blablabla GOAT

http://cdn3.gossipcenter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_header/photos/rafael-nadal-french-open-champ-2012.jpg

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 08:55 AM
True, but he could've helped regardless of the surface.

Yes, especially if you take into account his score against Berdych in the last few years!

augustobt
10-25-2012, 09:10 AM
Tipsy is gonna be tipsy tonight :)

Not yet... He has something to defend in Paris.

Hood_Man
10-25-2012, 09:36 AM
Blablabla YEC is exo blablabla doesn't matter blablabla winning percentage blablabla clay blablabla French Open blablabla H2H vs Federer blablabla doping blablabla GOAT

Oh God, that reminded me of the Crazy Frog! :shock:

zagor
10-25-2012, 09:39 AM
Blablabla YEC is exo blablabla doesn't matter blablabla winning percentage blablabla clay blablabla French Open blablabla H2H vs Federer blablabla doping blablabla GOAT

http://cdn3.gossipcenter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_header/photos/rafael-nadal-french-open-champ-2012.jpg

LMAO! :)

zagor
10-25-2012, 09:41 AM
Yeah, with Stanislas Wawrinka would be a lot easier!

What has Stanislas Wawrinka as a DC teammate got to do wtih Nadal missing out WTF? You seem a bit obsessed, no?

vive le beau jeu !
10-25-2012, 09:45 AM
so now delpo is officialy qualified for the WTF ? :)

TMF
10-25-2012, 09:45 AM
What has Stanislas Wawrinka as a DC teammate got to do wtih Nadal missing out WTF? You seem a bit obsessed, no?

He's one of the banned poster with many accounts.

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 09:46 AM
What has Stanislas Wawrinka as a DC teammate got to do wtih Nadal missing out WTF? You seem a bit obsessed, no?

I respond to TMF! Ziveli!

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 09:49 AM
He's one of the banned poster with many accounts.

LOL yeah that is true!

ivan_the_terrible
10-25-2012, 10:16 AM
In an interview announcing the news, Rafa had this to say:

"I' decide to try cycling since I got so much experience with it over my tennis career. Cycling allow me to perform very well at Australian Open and of course French Opens. I suppose you can blame cycling for some of my losses and poor showing after USO, but that is life, no? So anyway, my best friend Alberto (Contador) and me, we sit and talk and he convince me to go for it. He said "Rafa, lets bring back glory to cycling (the sport), you and me - we can do it for Spain and people will forget about Lance. Who knows, maybe you win 7 Tour De France with my help, no? <smiles>" He also say I can rest my knee during race since I have 2 pedals, when left knee hurt, I just use right foot alone"

beast of mallorca
10-25-2012, 10:28 AM
It does not change a lot of things as far as WTFs, but it's a great advantage for the Czech Republic in the DC final!

Nadal can't win DC alone. It's a team sport.

Gonzo_style did not say he can win DC alone, he said that it would be a great advantage without Rafa playing. Try to understand what is being said next time.

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 10:39 AM
Gonzo_style did not say he can win DC alone, he said that it would be a great advantage without Rafa playing. Try to understand what is being said next time.

Thanks man, we all know for which player TMF make justification.

beast of mallorca
10-25-2012, 10:44 AM
Thanks man, we all know for which player TMF make justification.

He's one of the *******s, that's for sure.

TMF
10-25-2012, 10:50 AM
Gonzo_style did not say he can win DC alone, he said that it would be a great advantage without Rafa playing. Try to understand what is being said next time.

Not every country have their best player playing DC all the time.

*******s only see a disavantage for his team but ignore that it goes both way.

RAFA2005RG
10-25-2012, 10:51 AM
In an interview announcing the news, Rafa had this to say:

"I' decide to try cycling since I got so much experience with it over my tennis career. Cycling allow me to perform very well at Australian Open and of course French Opens. I suppose you can blame cycling for some of my losses and poor showing after USO, but that is life, no? So anyway, my best friend Alberto (Contador) and me, we sit and talk and he convince me to go for it. He said "Rafa, lets bring back glory to cycling (the sport), you and me - we can do it for Spain and people will forget about Lance. Who knows, maybe you win 7 Tour De France with my help, no? <smiles>" He also say I can rest my knee during race since I have 2 pedals, when left knee hurt, I just use right foot alone"

Rafa owns you pretty bad. Without Rafa you would have nothing to live for, no?

Most people thought Rafa's body would break down and he'd be retired by age 25. Lucky for you he's not retiring but recovering his knees.

TMF
10-25-2012, 10:51 AM
He's one of the *******s, that's for sure.

*******s don't support Nadal. However I'll always defend Nadal from the old-timers who disparage Nadal's achievements. You guys should be thankful that I'm around.

RAFA2005RG
10-25-2012, 10:56 AM
*******s don't support Nadal. However I'll always defend Nadal from the old-timers who disparage Nadal's achievements. You guys should be thankful that I'm around.

But don't forget, its a good thing when the old-timers disparage Nadal, because it shows that Nadal has got into their heads. I like to see it :D

beast of mallorca
10-25-2012, 11:02 AM
Not every country have their best player playing DC all the time.

*******s only see a disavantage for his team but ignore that it goes both way.

I was only defending Gonzostyle with your snarky comments. He was not disparaging the Czech team in anyway and was stating the obvious that without Nadal, the Spanish team has lost an obvious advantage. But obviously, everything positive about Nadal is such a pungent flavor to you.

TMF
10-25-2012, 11:32 AM
I was only defending Gonzostyle with your snarky comments. He was not disparaging the Czech team in anyway and was stating the obvious that without Nadal, the Spanish team has lost an obvious advantage. But obviously, everything positive about Nadal is such a pungent flavor to you.

(SIGH)
They are not playing on clay but on indoor hardcourt which is Nadal worst surface. So no Nadal is a disadvantage is a HUGE exaggeration.

tennis_pro
10-25-2012, 11:37 AM
Nadal out of the WTF? Tell me something I don't know, like Nadal missing the Australian Open next year:twisted:

beast of mallorca
10-25-2012, 11:39 AM
(SIGH)
They are not playing on clay but on indoor hardcourt which is Nadal worst surface. So no Nadal is a disadvantage is a HUGE exaggeration.

You can sigh and cackle all you want, but Berdych has not beaten Rafa since 2007. 11-0 overall, 6-0 on hardcourts dude. Indoor and outdoor.

SQA333
10-25-2012, 11:48 AM
This is the worst tennis news all decade. We won't get to see Nadal get his butt kicked multiple times in one event.

hersito
10-25-2012, 12:06 PM
99% of us knew this was gonna happen, the great regret should be from Monaco that could have gone to WTF if he did better in the last 2 tournaments he played.

ivan_the_terrible
10-25-2012, 12:21 PM
Rafa owns you pretty bad. Without Rafa you would have nothing to live for, no?

Most people thought Rafa's body would break down and he'd be retired by age 25. Lucky for you he's not retiring but recovering his knees.

haha...quit projecting. Not because YOUR obsession with the butt picker is consuming your life means that it's the same for everyone.

Clarky21
10-25-2012, 12:27 PM
haha...quit projecting. Not because YOUR obsession with the butt picker is consuming your life means that it's the same for everyone.



Well it seems like you're just as obsessed with Nadal as ********* is. Just about every post you make refers to him in some way.

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 12:57 PM
You can sigh and cackle all you want, but Berdych has not beaten Rafa since 2007. 11-0 overall, 6-0 on hardcourts dude. Indoor and outdoor.

Logical thing for everyone, but not for TMF!

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 12:59 PM
*******s don't support Nadal. However I'll always defend Nadal from the old-timers who disparage Nadal's achievements. You guys should be thankful that I'm around.

LOL we all know why you defend Nadal, you defend him to make Federer's results look bigger! :)

Towser83
10-25-2012, 01:00 PM
not surprising, but again everyone pretty much
knew he wouldn't be there and yet it only gets announced now.

ivan_the_terrible
10-25-2012, 01:02 PM
Well it seems like you're just as obsessed with Nadal as ********* is. Just about every post you make refers to him in some way.

True - I'm amazed at people who think player x is juicing, but not Nadal, aren't you? ;)

Steve0904
10-25-2012, 01:08 PM
LOL we all know why you defend Nadal, you defend him to make Federer's results look bigger! :)

No, he probably defends him because he knows he is a great player.

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 01:13 PM
No, he probably defends him because he knows he is a great player.

Go to FPPT and see if it's true.

Romismak
10-25-2012, 01:49 PM
Expected, just finally official. Even if he would play it would be fiasco for him, his worst surface vs top guys after months without real ATP level matches would mean that probably even Ferrer would beat him in straight not talking about other guys. It would be humiliation for him. We will see if he will play DC i donīt think so.

DarthMaul
10-25-2012, 01:57 PM
He paid a huge price for winning against Federer...
His knees are over, while Fed is still #1 at 31.

Mike Sams
10-25-2012, 02:01 PM
Nadal never had any intention whatsoever of playing Paris or the WTF. :lol: Why would he? He would get humiliated at the WTF and not win a single match like in 2009. He's going to perform poorly in Doha and go out in the 4th round of the AO although I think he's going to skip both and try to make a much bigger deal of his "injury".
What was more injured than anything was his ego at the hands of Rosol. Before that devastating loss which saw Nadal's world crashing down, he was dominating on clay and gave zero inclination of any injury whatsoever. And along with Federer winning Wimbledon, Nadal has lost even more motivation knowing full well that trying to break let alone reach 17 Slams is going to be a massively tall order now that ALL of his momentum from the clay season is gone, nobody is afraid of him off clay, and Murray has now entered the fray officially as a legitimate threat alongside Djokovic in stopping Nadal from reaching Federer's achievements.
The competition has become too fierce even for Rafa himself. And he's getting old and his body is breaking. Younger, stronger players are making the climb.

Mike Sams
10-25-2012, 02:03 PM
He paid a huge price for winning against Federer...
His knees are over, while Fed is still #1 at 31.

He paid a huge price for TRYING to surpass Federer. It wasn't worth it. Nadal should've stayed on clay as he did in 2005 and not made every possible effort to surpass Federer. His game was too taxing for his body to handle season after season.

beast of mallorca
10-25-2012, 02:08 PM
He paid a huge price for TRYING to surpass Federer. It wasn't worth it. Nadal should've stayed on clay as he did in 2005 and not made every possible effort to surpass Federer. His game was too taxing for his body to handle season after season.

It aint over yet Mishter, til Clarky sings the Star Spangled Banner. So, we'll wait 'til everybody in the top 4 retires officially, k.

Gonzo_style
10-25-2012, 02:26 PM
He paid a huge price for TRYING to surpass Federer. It wasn't worth it. Nadal should've stayed on clay as he did in 2005 and not made every possible effort to surpass Federer. His game was too taxing for his body to handle season after season.

So, you think he should focus only on clay, and not try to win Wimbledon, US open and AO??? :confused:

Clarky21
10-25-2012, 02:31 PM
He paid a huge price for winning against Federer...
His knees are over, while Fed is still #1 at 31.



Yeah,you would have loved it if he just rolled over and died against Fed like everyone else did so Fed could rack up title after title without obstruction. Too bad for you that didn't exactly go to plan.

Mike Sams
10-25-2012, 04:22 PM
So, you think he should focus only on clay, and not try to win Wimbledon, US open and AO??? :confused:

He can try to win those if he wants. Who is stopping him? Nobody else on the tour moans and whines about how difficult hardcourts are on the knees.

Mike Sams
10-25-2012, 04:24 PM
Yeah,you would have loved it if he just rolled over and died against Fed like everyone else did so Fed could rack up title after title without obstruction. Too bad for you that didn't exactly go to plan.

How so? Didn't Federer still break the Slam record and the record for most weeks at #1? :lol:

Mike Sams
10-25-2012, 04:32 PM
It aint over yet Mishter, til Clarky sings the Star Spangled Banner. So, we'll wait 'til everybody in the top 4 retires officially, k.

Nadal is a legend but there are only so many comeback attempts an athlete can attempt before things just get more and more difficult. It doesn't help that he's now reached the age where, as history has shown, players are on the downside of their careers. In his case, a sharp decline. Luckily for him, the next generation doesn't look like it's going to produce a new Nadal/Federer/Sampras/Safin level of talent so he has a couple of years left to try to get a few more clay titles.

Tony48
10-25-2012, 04:35 PM
Considering his proposed reduced HC schedule, I wonder if he'll voluntarily pull out next year.

beast of mallorca
10-25-2012, 04:45 PM
Nadal is a legend but there are only so many comeback attempts an athlete can attempt before things just get more and more difficult. It doesn't help that he's now reached the age where, as history has shown, players are on the downside of their careers. In his case, a sharp decline. Luckily for him, the next generation doesn't look like it's going to produce a new Nadal/Federer/Sampras/Safin level of talent so he has a couple of years left to try to get a few more clay titles.

You see a bottle half empty, and I see a bottle half full. And as a fan, I'm going to put more into the bottle. My stand, in all seriousness , is wait and see.

As you yourself said, Nadal is a legend, and he may have a lot more to show for. Or you might be right and he just might not make a big dent anymore. i'M optimistic tho' as a fan.

Mike Sams
10-25-2012, 04:56 PM
You see a bottle half empty, and I see a bottle half full. And as a fan, I'm going to put more into the bottle. My stand, in all seriousness , is wait and see.

As you yourself said, Nadal is a legend, and he may have a lot more to show for. Or you might be right and he just might not make a big dent anymore. i'M optimistic tho' as a fan.

I'm a realist. I look at history and see how many times a player tried to push the boundaries and limitations of his physical ability before it simply became too much. Nadal has not won a non-clay Masters title since Indian Wells 2009. Nadal has not won a non-clay title since Japan 2010. Nadal has not beaten Djokovic off clay since US Open 2010. Nadal has not managed to beat 2 players in the top 4 back to back since World Tour finals 2010 (beat one eyed Djokovic in the round robin, beat Murray in the sf, lost to Federer in finals).
Nadal has never taken as much time away from the sport as he has this year. And by many reports, Nadal is spending more time playing poker and golf than he is practicing and improving his tennis. What more do we need to know to see that nothing is guaranteed to Nadal anymore? Not even Monte Carlo 2013 is a guarantee if Federer, Murray and Djokovic were to play that event.

Netspirit
10-25-2012, 04:59 PM
I think it is pretty much guaranteed that Nadal will finish his career with a losing H2H to Rosol.

Clarky21
10-25-2012, 05:37 PM
I think it is pretty much guaranteed that Nadal will finish his career with a losing H2H to Rosol.



Yep,because Rosol is a mug who can't make it out of qualies. Beating an injured Nadal will sadly be his only career highlight.

Mike Sams
10-25-2012, 05:45 PM
Yep,because Rosol is a mug who can't make it out of qualies. Beating an injured Nadal will sadly be his only career highlight.

Yes, Rosol only beat a man who was coming off winning the French Open!!! Stupid Clarky :lol:

Murrayfan31
10-25-2012, 05:51 PM
He was never a threat anyways. Can't play indoors.

veroniquem
10-25-2012, 06:01 PM
Let's not exaggerate. He has 2 semis and a final at WTF (lost to Fed each time). He was awful last year, sure, but he's capable of doing pretty well there. And he's a threat to all players not named Federer as he has beaten all of Djoko, Murray, Berd and more at WTF in the past.

PeteD
10-25-2012, 06:47 PM
There is no joy in Majorca . . . or a lot of places. Seems impossible he's this racked up, the guy is such an animal.

CCNM
10-25-2012, 06:58 PM
Oh dear! Really hope he gets better. :(

Cup8489
10-25-2012, 07:45 PM
Rafa owns you pretty bad. Without Rafa you would have nothing to live for, no?

Most people thought Rafa's body would break down and he'd be retired by age 25. Lucky for you he's not retiring but recovering his knees.

http://lans-soapbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Pot_Meet_Kettle.jpg

Cup8489
10-25-2012, 07:48 PM
Yep,because Rosol is a mug who can't make it out of qualies. Beating an injured Nadal will sadly be his only career highlight.

Rafa hasn't even made it to tournaments, why is that Rosol's fault? Can only beat who is in front of you. Obviously he's waiting for Nadal to return, to defeat him again.

cc0509
10-25-2012, 09:26 PM
not surprising, but again everyone pretty much
knew he wouldn't be there and yet it only gets announced now.

It is called "PR at work."

cc0509
10-25-2012, 09:30 PM
Let's not exaggerate. He has 2 semis and a final at WTF (lost to Fed each time). He was awful last year, sure, but he's capable of doing pretty well there. And he's a threat to all players not named Federer as he has beaten all of Djoko, Murray, Berd and more at WTF in the past.

Djokovic and Murray are better now than in the past. Nadal would not win the WTF now with Murray, Djokovic and Federer all better at indoor HC. Not happening.

sbengte
10-26-2012, 02:48 AM
It's a shame that he won't play the tour finals. I was looking for inspiration for a sequel to Rafa's WTF song. :)

j/k. I genuinely miss seeing him around competing. But I am very sure he will be back in full force next year.

CMM
10-26-2012, 02:49 AM
Oh dear! Really hope he gets better. :(

He will. This is not a surprise since he already said a long time ago that his goal is to arrive in good condition at the AO.

Nice to see the ATP finally remembered him.
"We wish Rafa all the best as he continues his rehabilitation from injury," ATP president Brad Drewett said. "Rafa is an incredible champion and it goes without saying that he has been missed on the ATP World Tour over the past few months. We look forward to welcoming him back on the tour very soon."

Desertman
10-26-2012, 03:51 AM
A pity he's out. It doesn't look good for the start of next year either. Very little practice at this level and you cannot compete

underground
10-26-2012, 03:52 AM
I actually wanted Nadal to be in the WTF, if Federer couldn't repeat his GOAT performance against him at least Djokovic/Murray would do the same.

tenniswriter
10-26-2012, 04:01 AM
Nadal never had any intention whatsoever of playing Paris or the WTF. :lol: Why would he? He would get humiliated at the WTF and not win a single match like in 2009. He's going to perform poorly in Doha and go out in the 4th round of the AO although I think he's going to skip both and try to make a much bigger deal of his "injury".
What was more injured than anything was his ego at the hands of Rosol. Before that devastating loss which saw Nadal's world crashing down, he was dominating on clay and gave zero inclination of any injury whatsoever. And along with Federer winning Wimbledon, Nadal has lost even more motivation knowing full well that trying to break let alone reach 17 Slams is going to be a massively tall order now that ALL of his momentum from the clay season is gone, nobody is afraid of him off clay, and Murray has now entered the fray officially as a legitimate threat alongside Djokovic in stopping Nadal from reaching Federer's achievements.
The competition has become too fierce even for Rafa himself. And he's getting old and his body is breaking. Younger, stronger players are making the climb.

Seriously? You think Nadal took up the sport of tennis with the sole aim of being better than Roger Federer? There are *******s and *******s on this forum who go to the extremes of stupidity but I doubt the players themselves are actually that intense and insecure. And no, I'm not a Nadal fan, I'm a tennis fan

Mike Sams
10-26-2012, 08:38 AM
Seriously? You think Nadal took up the sport of tennis with the sole aim of being better than Roger Federer? There are *******s and *******s on this forum who go to the extremes of stupidity but I doubt the players themselves are actually that intense and insecure. And no, I'm not a Nadal fan, I'm a tennis fan

Nadal recognized Federer as the roadblock to achieving greatness. He needed 3 attempts to finally get his Wimbledon against Federer and even then, it was the numerous clay court victories that helped Nadal soften Federer for the Wimbledon kill. The worst thing that happened to Federer was being so good on clay. Losing all those clay finals to Nadal spread the virus to all other surfaces.

Ms Nadal
10-26-2012, 09:12 AM
I was glad when Rafa came along to bother Fed. It was the best thing to happen. The Fed domintion was getting like the Sampras era!

tenniswriter
10-26-2012, 10:22 AM
Nadal recognized Federer as the roadblock to achieving greatness. He needed 3 attempts to finally get his Wimbledon against Federer and even then, it was the numerous clay court victories that helped Nadal soften Federer for the Wimbledon kill. The worst thing that happened to Federer was being so good on clay. Losing all those clay finals to Nadal spread the virus to all other surfaces.

LOL. You're a funny guy, can't debate with you. And btw, Federer is the greatest of all time but Nadal has achieved greatness as well. Sheesh

Ms Nadal
10-26-2012, 11:24 AM
I think that Rafa and Roger are the true legends of today. We will never see their likes again. We must make the most of them while we can.

PeteD
10-26-2012, 02:04 PM
Nadal recognized Federer as the roadblock to achieving greatness. He needed 3 attempts to finally get his Wimbledon against Federer and even then, it was the numerous clay court victories that helped Nadal soften Federer for the Wimbledon kill. The worst thing that happened to Federer was being so good on clay. Losing all those clay finals to Nadal spread the virus to all other surfaces.

This is why some people are saying Fed's next slam will be the French -- Nadal will text him congratulations from a poker table

christinamaniac7
10-27-2012, 02:22 AM
Well the best possible decision was made by him as he might have been terrible playing with only 50% fitness losing all 3 RR matches as in 2009, So he'd be back with his 100% at the beginning of 2013.

Sabratha
10-27-2012, 09:05 PM
I was glad when Rafa came along to bother Fed. It was the best thing to happen. The Fed domintion was getting like the Sampras era!
Before Nadal, there was Safin.

Zarfot Z
10-28-2012, 02:22 AM
He'll be back for the Australian Open in January next year.

Exactly 6 months after his withdrawal from the Olympics. Hmm.

Gonzo_style
10-28-2012, 05:23 AM
Before Nadal, there was Safin.

And what is H2H between Federer and Safin?

Steve0904
10-28-2012, 07:53 AM
Before Nadal, there was Safin.

Safin never truly dominated. Come on now.

Clarky21
10-28-2012, 08:02 AM
He'll be back for the Australian Open in January next year.

Exactly 6 months after his withdrawal from the Olympics. Hmm.



More silent ban conspiracies. Hilarious.


But as far as his being back for the AO or next year at all is still up in the air considering he may have to have surgery. Don't look for Nadal to be back anytime soon.

Sabratha
10-28-2012, 08:04 AM
Safin never truly dominated. Come on now.
I was joking.