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Kal-El 34
10-26-2012, 07:16 AM
So I received a TC95 in the mail recently. I've had some time, but not much to really get out and play with it. I will post some pics and a review today of how it plays and how it compared to the Donnay X-Dual Pro I have been playing with...

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Kal-El 34
10-26-2012, 07:34 AM
Set-up: before I get into it here are my specs

TC95
320g
18x20 string pattern
63RA
27.25" length
4 and 1/2 grip size
320mm balance

Cosmetics: Just after taking the frame out of the box, the Angell TC95 looks and feels like a quality, expensive frame. The paint looks great, and racket just feels solid in hand. Hard to put into words, but some frames just feel right when you pick them up.

The gunmetal paint is awesome. Reminds me of the original Donnay X-Series line, which was my favorite looking line of rackets ever. The grommets around the outside stretch all the way down to the throat, adding a nice splash of color. I opted for the blue grommets and grip, and they look really nice. My college colors were blue and white so I am biased to them haha. The lettering looks nice and does not look like it will chip off easily like the Donnay Foil lettering. The only gripe I have, and it is a small gripe, is how big the Angell "A" is on the throat. I feel if it were a bit smaller, the frame would look even tougher. Not a big deal though. Everyone who has seen/picked it up in the few days since I got it just raves over how awesome it looks. Initial feedback is very positive.

The 95sq. in. head seems a tad larger than a standard 95 sq. in. head. I've been using a 97 from Donnay for some time, and I would say either the Donnay is closer to a 95, or the Angell is closer to a 98. I liked the fact the head looked a bit bigger than I was expecting. Racket swings like a mid though. Cuts through the air effortlessly, and not sluggish at all. At 20mm width, it is slightly thinner than the dual pro/pro one offerings from Donnay, yet a tad thinner than their thin beamed offerings.

I also went with a .25 extension compared to standard 27". This is something I have never really tried before, and will take a bit of getting used to, but is something I feel I will enjoy moving forward. I also got a 4 and 1/2 grip size. It is a bit thicker than the 4 and 1/2 offered by Donnay, but I have always felt the Donnay grip to run a bit small.

Overall the quality and build of the racket is really top notch. Paul did a really good job putting his first Angell frame together. I would recommend a lot more people give these sticks a good look, especially those that are picky about their set ups.

Kal-El 34
10-26-2012, 07:48 AM
Groundstrokes: Immediately fell in love with this racket from the baseline. Very smooth playing and effortless drive through the ball. I felt a very nice access to spin from both sides, and my depth seemed to increase as well. I feel I have to whip my shot a little more with my Donnay, where I can get the same power and spin with the Angell and not have to work quite so hard for it. The racquet plays incredibly solid. Not too far off from the Donnay, as they are both non hollow frames. The Angell seems a bit more feel oriented though.

Forehands: My forehand is my go to shot. Big western grip, heavy topspin - you know the drill. I felt immediately comfortable with the TC95 on the forehand. Incredibly solid feel making contact, even off center shots. The added weight I think helped my depth, and my shots felt a lot heavier with the TC95. Once I started just letting the racket do its thing and not forcing too much, it was smooth sailing here. Rock solid performance.

Backhands: My backhand is 2h, and a bit flatter shot than my forehand. I liked the depth I was able to generate, and felt I could snap a bit more topspin even than I normally get with my Donnay. Could be the added weight, and it also could be the extended length. I do still have top adjust to shots closer to my body with the extended frame. I felt very confident stepping in and ripping the backhand, and felt the depth and pace were good on defensive shots. My slice really impressed me from the backhand side as well. Great depth and bite, but also excellent touch when I wanted to angle on off. No gripes whatsoever here.

Overall from the baseline I have nothing but good things to say here. Obviously when trying a new frame, there are adjustments that need to be made. However, this frame is right on point from the baseline. Rock solid feel, no vibration or shock on impact, and smooth as silk hitting through the ball

Kal-El 34
10-26-2012, 07:57 AM
Volleys: I think I was most impressed with the TC95 at the net. I don't think I have hit with a nicer volleying frame, and I have hit with a lot of rackets. Absolutely no shock anywhere. There is really nice drive and plow through when I wanted to drive the ball deep, and the racket felt buttery smooth when I wanted some extra touch. The added length was really nice when I wanted to stretch out more for shots away from me, but again I have to adjust to shots a little closer to the body. I don't think this will take much time though.

My overhead was killer. Definitely digging the extra length here. Could put the ball wherever I wanted to. Very easy access to power when I wanted to put the ball away. I could also angle the ball off with nasty slice with ease as well. Very smooth

In between groundies and volleys this frame is nice in transition. Approach shots I found to be very comfortable. Immediately confident stepping in and ripping the ball or adding touch when I wanted to. Again - zero complaints on volleys. Solid frame

Kal-El 34
10-26-2012, 08:03 AM
Serves: After a bit of adjustment, I was very pleased with the TC95 on serves. The xtra length really helps add some power... scary power haha. The frame just does the work for you, more than what I am used to for the donnay. I love my Donnay, but after hitting with the TC95, feel I am just working to hard. I got the same power, same spin, same control, less effort... all good things

Best surprise was on slice serves. Talk about nasty angles. People I was hitting with were getting mad at how far wide I was slicing then on the duece side.

The frame gives you a little added confidence, as every shot hit feels like it's perfect. Even when a bit off enter, the frame felt solid and I didn't feel I lost too much power or spin. Can definitely get used to this

Kal-El 34
10-26-2012, 08:05 AM
Overall I am really happy I gave this racket a shot. I am going to be hitting with it a lot more in the coming days, and may be considering a switch. I like my Donnays, and really had no intention of switching, but this TC95 may be just what I have been looking for!

if you haven't tried Angell yet... I highly recommend it.

Paul, the owner, is second to none. Very quick communication, and very open and honest. I think he has a very good product on hand, and I would not hesitate to do business with him or recommend the racket to anyone.

ced
10-26-2012, 08:19 AM
Overall I am really happy I gave this racket a shot. I am going to be hitting with it a lot more in the coming days, and may be considering a switch. I like my Donnays, and really had no intention of switching, but this TC95 may be just what I have been looking for!

if you haven't tried Angell yet... I highly recommend it.

Paul, the owner, is second to none. Very quick communication, and very open and honest. I think he has a very good product on hand, and I would not hesitate to do business with him or recommend the racket to anyone.

Thanks for your review ... my TC95 is due any day now ...

Kal-El 34
10-26-2012, 08:53 AM
Thanks for your review ... my TC95 is due any day now ...

let me know what you think... i may have gone with the 100, but I need that 18x20 string pattern

Kal-El 34
10-26-2012, 08:58 AM
just realized my typo in my thread title. solid effort by me. any way someone can fix this?

ced
10-26-2012, 11:18 AM
let me know what you think... i may have gone with the 100, but I need that 18x20 string pattern

Same here .... perfection would have been a TC100 w/ an 18x20 pattern ... but pleased to see you think the TC95 tends more toward a 98 .... that is indeed perfection.

zapvor
10-26-2012, 11:44 AM
you cant switch kal!!!! haha

brownbearfalling
10-28-2012, 07:17 AM
Are Angell racquets Identical to vantage?

ced
10-28-2012, 07:44 AM
Are Angell racquets Identical to vantage?

They are from the same molds, build and construction strategy. Customization aspects tend to make each racquet unique.

mykoh
10-29-2012, 01:44 AM
thanks for the review Kal! mine should be shipped out today! cant. wait. =DDD

Backhanded Compliment
10-29-2012, 02:03 AM
Thanks for the review... I love my Prestiges but I am picky and have never been able to get 2 rackets that are identical so I end up having one racket I love and the others are just in case.

Curious how the TC 95 18x20 compares to the current IGPMP?

ced
10-29-2012, 09:05 AM
Thanks for the review... I love my Prestiges but I am picky and have never been able to get 2 rackets that are identical so I end up having one racket I love and the others are just in case.

Curious how the TC 95 18x20 compares to the current IGPMP?

Mine arrived this morning ... will provide comments as soon as I can get the cast off my foot/ankle.

Kal-El 34
10-29-2012, 10:34 AM
you cant switch kal!!!! haha

i don't know... i have a great thing with Donnay, but the Angell rackets do intrigue me. Beautiful playing frame

Kal-El 34
10-29-2012, 10:36 AM
Thanks for the review... I love my Prestiges but I am picky and have never been able to get 2 rackets that are identical so I end up having one racket I love and the others are just in case.

Curious how the TC 95 18x20 compares to the current IGPMP?

Similar, yet more solid and a softer, more controllable feel. I got the 63 RA, would be interested in trying the 70 as well just to see. If you are picky about your frame, you should check these out for sure... sounds like they may be just what the doctor ordered

Kal-El 34
10-29-2012, 10:37 AM
i will be positing my comparison between the tc95 and the retail pro one 18x20 as soon as i receive mine. i was told the p1 18x20 and the dual pro are the same racket, but the grommets are different between the two so i will be the judge of that!~

Backhanded Compliment
10-29-2012, 11:02 AM
Similar, yet more solid and a softer, more controllable feel. I got the 63 RA, would be interested in trying the 70 as well just to see. If you are picky about your frame, you should check these out for sure... sounds like they may be just what the doctor ordered

That's interesting to hear. It's been heartbreaking when my one favorite stick cracks and I cant duplicate it. Im the sort of player that endlessly messes with a racket for 5 months and gets it dialed in only to be let down when that one stick either loses its mojo (to fatigue) or cracks outright 8 months later. I want to play with a racket setup for 5 years or so and being able to match sticks is uber-helpful.

How was the serve power and topspin potential of the TC95 compared to a prestige. How stable is the TC95 compared to the IGPMP. Return of serve is a huge part of my game.

Im interested in the thinner profile of the Angell too... I play a lot of doubles and my backhand is an extreme topspinner like Gugas so that clearance might be helpful for "knifing the ball". The Donnay Blue 99 was something I almost bought but the control of the prestige was too good to pass up. My current prestige is a beast...

JGads
10-29-2012, 01:17 PM
If I were to ever order one of those, your specs are precisely where I'd go. Love the ability to just give it .25 extra length instead of a half inch. What's the swingweight on yours, do you know? Really nice looking frame there.

galain
10-29-2012, 02:11 PM
ignore this please - just found the other thread which answered my questions...

Roforot
10-30-2012, 06:02 AM
I'm curious about the swingweight of the ANgell and your regular frames? Are your Donnay frames pretty much stock as far as weight/balance?

I know it's a nice novelty, but was there anything you felt played better w/ the Donnay?

sstchur
10-30-2012, 06:35 AM
Thanks for your review ... my TC95 is due any day now ...

How many racquets do you have?? ;-)

ced
10-30-2012, 08:53 AM
How many racquets do you have?? ;-)

Hi Stephen, the answer is too many ..... I still have my Qtours but do have an Angell TC100 and now a TC95 .... will sell a couple , but not all, of my Qtours and probably play (rotate) the Qtour and the TC95 (they are speced pretty close)

D-money
10-30-2012, 03:17 PM
I should be receiving my Angells tomorrow based on the shipping info and I'm very excited to play with them. I said it in another thread but I don't think it hurts to say it again that Paul's service is outstanding.

realplayer
10-30-2012, 03:27 PM
I received my tc100 and played with it today and it felt great. I was a very difficult customer because i wanted the same specs as my other racket including swingweight but Paul made it exactly the same and informed me before he shipped them.

D-money
10-31-2012, 05:14 PM
Got mine today and they look great. I didn't know the white grommet is translucent white, had I known that I would've gotten black but it still looks great. They are within a gram of eachother and the balance is the same so they should play very close to eachother. It's rainy here or I would be hitting now but I will play without them tomorrow weather permitting. They appear to be of very high quality the foam is through the entire racket which is great as I've loved every foam filled racket I've hit with. Very exciting.

sureshs
10-31-2012, 07:22 PM
I received my tc100 and played with it today and it felt great. I was a very difficult customer because i wanted the same specs as my other racket including swingweight but Paul made it exactly the same and informed me before he shipped them.

Did he add lead?

sansaephanh
10-31-2012, 07:25 PM
the 95 sounds so good. I think i need a more solid feeling stick then my leaded up RDiS200. To think I could build a players stick from scratch... Grr. I might order one... lol.

realplayer
11-01-2012, 01:58 AM
Did he add lead?

No, he just took a racket with the same specs that I already had.

Roforot
11-01-2012, 03:37 PM
Was wondering why the OP hadn't replied to this thread but saw he's in New York... hope things aren't too serious. Tennis must be on the back page now.

Kal-El 34
11-01-2012, 06:33 PM
Hey everyone just wanted a quick post and let everyone know i wad ok here in NY. Crazy here and tons of damage but luckily no injuries or anything to me or anyone i know. My heart is with everyone here on the East Coast now. I am without power and internet except for my phone. I hate writing on my phone so this will be short. I will answer everyones questions and comments when power is restored here and i Get some time. Didn't want anyone to think i wad ignoring them though. Cheers.....Kal

zapvor
11-01-2012, 06:35 PM
Hey everyone just wanted a quick post and let everyone know i wad ok here in NY. Crazy here and tons of damage but luckily no injuries or anything to me or anyone i know. My heart is with everyone here on the East Coast now. I am without power and internet except for my phone. I hate writing on my phone so this will be short. I will answer everyones questions and comments when power is restored here and i Get some time. Didn't want anyone to think i wad ignoring them though. Cheers.....Kal

good to hear! be safe man!

rlau
11-02-2012, 03:31 AM
I received my tc100 and played with it today and it felt great. I was a very difficult customer because i wanted the same specs as my other racket including swingweight but Paul made it exactly the same and informed me before he shipped them.

Just curious: what specs did you get and what frame did you match it to?

realplayer
11-02-2012, 08:30 AM
Just curious: what specs did you get and what frame did you match it to?

I matched it with my vt221.

weight 305, sw:290, balance 31,5 with synthetic grip unstrung but i replace it with a leather grip and overgrip and I asked for a low swingweight to protect the bumperguard as I can easily bump it up with protection tape.

With leather grip, strings and protection tape i have a racket of 342 grams, 31,8 balance and a swingweight of 328.

D-money
11-02-2012, 06:57 PM
Post edited

D-money
11-02-2012, 07:40 PM
I will experiment with lead tape placement but this is pretty far off from what I had hoped for.

D-money
11-02-2012, 10:01 PM
Ok. Maybe I've overreacted. This is much different than I'm used to but I think I can get it where I need it. Initial weight was 11.9 oz 6 points HL. New weight is 12.5 oz 7 points HL. Swings light still believe it or not.

D-money
11-03-2012, 04:41 PM
Ok. Well this is now a very very nice stick. 12.5oz 7 points headlight and I'm guessing 330ish swingweight approximately, really stable up at net ,CRUSHES the ball from the baseline. This is the most maneuverable 350+ gram racket I've ever used. It wasn't working at first but I have found a sweetspot that is better than I expected.

Chas
11-05-2012, 03:42 AM
I've been reading the Vantage and Angell threads with interest, and have really appreciated the first hand experience of these racquets shared by those on here.

I currently play with a Dunlop Bio 200 Tour, with a 4D 200 (non tour) as my backup. I really like the Bio - the open pattern , plough through, feel etc. However occasionaly the heft catches me out in terms being slow to the ball. The 4D 200 is a little easier to swing and hence quicker to set up in those fast moving points in doubles, but I struggle to get the work on the ball and punch through that I get with the Bio 200.

So it feels like something between the two may well be the next step forward for me.

I understand I can order an Angell with specs that are somewhere between the two, but obviously that doesn't tell me about the feel and playability.

I know Paul was Designer for Dunlop / Slazenger prior to the Biomimetic days. From those who've used the TC95 etc. would you say there's any similarity in feel/playability with the current Dunlop racquets ?



I've also been considering the upcoming F2.0 Tour as a possibility. There doesn't seem to be any user feedback yet from early access players, but the specs seem about right, if a bit on the light side.

However that begs the question whether the various added "technologies" such as different materials, etc. really add anything compared to the , presumably, carefully specified and laid up Carbon Fibre in these Angell racquets.



Any opinions from the users of Paul's racquets would be really appreciated ?

Kal-El 34
11-05-2012, 11:32 AM
yea i would say that the angell rackets play like a pro stock frame honestly. very solid at impact, nice plush response, and no vibration on impact. After playing with Donnay, which I feel similar to as they are filled rackets as well, I find most off the shelf rackets to feel unstable in my opinion. It's def. a different feel than some other rackets on the market, but if you like it when hit, you wont go back...

Kal-El 34
11-05-2012, 11:34 AM
I'm curious about the swingweight of the ANgell and your regular frames? Are your Donnay frames pretty much stock as far as weight/balance?

I know it's a nice novelty, but was there anything you felt played better w/ the Donnay?

yea my donnays i usually just play stock. my angell is a bit heavier, and .25 inches longer. I do feel i am able to snap through the ball quicker with my donnays for more topspin, but i don't feel I have to work as hard with the angell. It took a bit of getting used to, but kind of nice to be able to back off the swing at times. I sacrifice a bit of spin, but the power and depth are still there

Kal-El 34
11-05-2012, 11:35 AM
Thanks for the review... I love my Prestiges but I am picky and have never been able to get 2 rackets that are identical so I end up having one racket I love and the others are just in case.

Curious how the TC 95 18x20 compares to the current IGPMP?

obviously if you spec it out like the IGMP, then the weight and balance can be the same / very similar. I find the angell to have that rock solid feel at impact, but play a bit softer and more stable than the prestige. I especially find the angell to play better on serves and at the net

Kal-El 34
11-05-2012, 11:37 AM
good to be back everyone. hopefully I have answered the questions posted. if i missed something, or you have any questions feel free to post. I have spent a lot more time with the racket and have a really good understanding of the frame now. beautiful playing frame. Paul has a very nice product here

Kal-El 34
11-06-2012, 04:30 PM
would enjoy seeing other people's Angell frames posted here. going to be getting a red one and a black one as well to finish the set :)

zapvor
11-06-2012, 06:02 PM
you cant switch!!

suppawat
11-06-2012, 07:08 PM
yea i would say that the angell rackets play like a pro stock frame honestly. very solid at impact, nice plush response, and no vibration on impact. After playing with Donnay, which I feel similar to as they are filled rackets as well, I find most off the shelf rackets to feel unstable in my opinion. It's def. a different feel than some other rackets on the market, but if you like it when hit, you wont go back...

I tried several pro stock racquets and all of them are either partially filled or fully filled with foam. They all have very dampened feel, more or less depends on stiffness and foam volume. But one thing I observed, the pro stock racquets are getting stiffer every day. Head TGK237.3 is much stiffer from PT10 pro stock, Hewitt's Yonex pro stock racquet is way stiffer, Head TGK238.4 is also stiffer than Haas's Dunlop frame. The other day, I played James Blake's Dunlop frame side by side with his Donnay racquet, and noticed a huge difference. The Dunlop frame was very flexible, but had slightly hollow feel. The Donnay frame was much stiffer but it felt much more comfortable and playable (very close to Pro One 18x20) in faster groundstroke rally. The structure inside is dual core filled with foam. May be he needs more power without losing comfort.

Even though I love Donnay so much, but I can't really find the 100 sq.in racquet with the right feel in any brand. I really hope the Angell will fill this gap.

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Roforot
11-06-2012, 07:22 PM
yea my donnays i usually just play stock. my angell is a bit heavier, and .25 inches longer. I do feel i am able to snap through the ball quicker with my donnays for more topspin, but i don't feel I have to work as hard with the angell. It took a bit of getting used to, but kind of nice to be able to back off the swing at times. I sacrifice a bit of spin, but the power and depth are still there

Kal-El what is the swing weight of your Angell frame?
Do you miss the foam filled donnay frames as far as comfort of shock absorption?

Kal-El 34
11-06-2012, 08:52 PM
I tried several pro stock racquets and all of them are either partially filled or fully filled with foam. They all have very dampened feel, more or less depends on stiffness and foam volume. But one thing I observed, the pro stock racquets are getting stiffer every day. Head TGK237.3 is much stiffer from PT10 pro stock, Hewitt's Yonex pro stock racquet is way stiffer, Head TGK238.4 is also stiffer than Haas's Dunlop frame. The other day, I played James Blake's Dunlop frame side by side with his Donnay racquet, and noticed a huge difference. The Dunlop frame was very flexible, but had slightly hollow feel. The Donnay frame was much stiffer but it felt much more comfortable and playable (very close to Pro One 18x20) in faster groundstroke rally. The structure inside is dual core filled with foam. May be he needs more power without losing comfort.

Even though I love Donnay so much, but I can't really find the 100 sq.in racquet with the right feel in any brand. I really hope the Angell will fill this gap.

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man it seems as if we are on a similar quest in this sport. everything i read from you is right on par with what i feel more or less

Kal-El 34
11-06-2012, 08:54 PM
Kal-El what is the swing weight of your Angell frame?
Do you miss the foam filled donnay frames as far as comfort of shock absorption?

the swingweight of my angell is up there for sure. i love the foam filled feel of the donnays and it is not lacking in the angell line as they are foam filled as well. the tc 95 is a bit thicker than the thin beamed donnays, and a tad thinner than say the pro one series. feel is very similar though.

Roforot
11-07-2012, 04:20 AM
Is the SW higher on the Angell vs. Donnay Pro1? I assume Angell tells you the exact SW once they build your custom frame? Or did you ask them to match a certain SW?

I didn't know Angell also has foam filled racquets; I had thought it was exclusive to Donnay. It makes sense though as far as having a similar feel?

suppawat
11-07-2012, 07:46 AM
Finally my Angells TC95 (310g, 18x20 & 16x19, 63RA) and TC100 (300g, 310g) arrived, will go hit soon.

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suppawat
11-07-2012, 07:47 AM
Simply beautiful racquets with excellent paint quality. The handle shape "C" feels really good in hands. Grommet holes are really small, I'm not sure if 16L string can go thru. Plan to put Solinco Revolution on blue frames and Solinco Outlast on red frames.

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Kal-El 34
11-07-2012, 06:12 PM
Suppawat thanks for sharing such great pictures all the time

zapvor
11-07-2012, 06:22 PM
great pictures indeed! they are basically same mold as the vantage right?

Kal-El 34
11-07-2012, 06:37 PM
Suppawat how do you like the solinco bag

suppawat
11-07-2012, 07:31 PM
Suppawat how do you like the solinco bag

Yes I like it. It's very practical - light, roomy, shoulder friendly. The bag is light and holds its shape well. In the 2nd version, Solinco bag shape remains the same but they use more water-repellent material and redesign the zip layout. Padded shoulder straps and 2 thermoguard racquet compartments are first class. I used many Head bags before, but none of them are shoulder friendly. They kept falling off my shoulder.

Steve Huff
11-07-2012, 08:08 PM
Those of you in the states that have purchased Angell rackets. Did they come from Europe? Where are they made? And, just how much did, say 2 of them, set you back with shipping etc? They really do look interesting, but shelling out $500+ for 2 frames is out of the question for me at the present.

zapvor
11-07-2012, 08:33 PM
Those of you in the states that have purchased Angell rackets. Did they come from Europe? Where are they made? And, just how much did, say 2 of them, set you back with shipping etc? They really do look interesting, but shelling out $500+ for 2 frames is out of the question for me at the present.

yea that was keeping me from ordering vantage......

Kal-El 34
11-08-2012, 07:01 AM
Yes I like it. It's very practical - light, roomy, shoulder friendly. The bag is light and holds its shape well. In the 2nd version, Solinco bag shape remains the same but they use more water-repellent material and redesign the zip layout. Padded shoulder straps and 2 thermoguard racquet compartments are first class. I used many Head bags before, but none of them are shoulder friendly. They kept falling off my shoulder.

head bags look cool but their straps are the worst. I've had the donnay 12 pack bag for awhile now and have been pleased with it, aside from the fact it is ugly as home-made soap. Hate the color scheme. I've always liked the red/black. I had the prestige limited monstercombi and loved the look of it, and the old wilson eco super 6 as well... i like the look of the solinco bag and their straps look as if they would be comfortable. Going to try and work something out with them in the coming weeks....

Have you tried their new line of rackets? Was bummed there was no 18x20 in the new line, as the cosmetics looked really nice. Maybe they will come out with one at a later date though.

sansaephanh
11-08-2012, 11:43 AM
yea that was keeping me from ordering vantage......

So how much did it cost total? I'd love a foam filled custom 95... Sounds so sexy. If we could only choose beam width =D.

Backhanded Compliment
11-08-2012, 02:05 PM
Man those look great... the red grommeted ones are much better looking in those photos than on the official site. Of course curious about hearing more about the TC95 and how it plays in either stringing pattern.

jason586
11-08-2012, 03:35 PM
Finally my Angells TC95 (310g, 18x20 & 16x19, 63RA) and TC100 (300g, 310g) arrived, will go hit soon.


Noticed you picked up the 95" in 63 flex and the 100" in 70 flex.

I have the opposite with:
1) a pair of 95"/27"/320gr/305mm/70ra/16x19 with strung specs of 11.9oz/9HL/67ra.
2) a pair 100"/27"/310gr/315mm/63ra/16x19 with strung specs of 11.6oz/6HL/60ra.

From everything I've read, I believe the new version Angells are the exact same as the Vantages. So if this helps anyone, here is my first hand experience with two different sizes and flexes:

I have only had the 100's for a week, and I think I am going to move to them permanently from the 95 which I originally had no plans of doing. I was just curious what the 100 was like as I picked them up for a very good price in the fs section of TT.
I like the comfort and dwell time of the flexier 100 and am also getting a slight increase in power even with more flex due to the increase head size and 3 points more weight toward the head. I even strung the 100 with full poly at 58 while the 95 is currently strung with poly mains and syn gut crosses at 58. The 100 also gives me a little more room for error, and it swings nearly as quick as the 95" having .3oz less weight. The only drawback of the 100 I have so far is a slightly less crisp volley.
I can't say for sure which is better on the serve yet as I am still getting used to the different specs of the 100, but the 95/70 is the best serving stick I've used to date. I think once I get the timing down a bit more, the 100 may be even better with the extra weight toward the head for power plus the larger head size for more access to spin. I have already notice an increase kick on topspin-slice 1st serves.

jankustra
11-08-2012, 09:15 PM
Angels racket font have anymore 90 head size... midsize rackets are not in anymore...???

topspinlob
11-16-2012, 11:51 AM
Finally my Angells TC95 (310g, 18x20 & 16x19, 63RA) and TC100 (300g, 310g) arrived, will go hit soon.

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I saw that you have youtube video showing your playtests... so how did you like the rackets?

I am thinking of getting a TC100 in the heaviest wt and least headlight balance to match my customized EXO3 Graphites 100 (12.3 oz 5pts HL)...

suppawat
11-17-2012, 03:37 PM
I saw that you have youtube video showing your playtests... so how did you like the rackets?

I am thinking of getting a TC100 in the heaviest wt and least headlight balance to match my customized EXO3 Graphites 100 (12.3 oz 5pts HL)...

I haven't played TC100 a lot, but my player did. He tested 2 frames one is 300g, 330mm, 70RA, Blue and the other one is 310g, 315mm, 70RA, Red.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JS6Kp3mSKM

He likes to 310g better because of more head light balance. Even though the Blue is lighter, but the less head light doesn't really allow him to accelerate the head speed as good as the red one. I left the racquet with him for further playtesting and will share with you guys again.

For me, I really like the TC95 (16x19, 63RA, 310g). It has a huge sweet sot, and that makes it such a consistent hitting frame.

Kal-El 34
11-19-2012, 10:49 AM
Suppawat did the TC100 give you what you were looking for in the 100 sq. in. dept? I like to 95 as well. Had to tweak it a bit so sent back in for some work. looking forward to getting it back

suppawat
11-19-2012, 01:31 PM
Suppawat did the TC100 give you what you were looking for in the 100 sq. in. dept? I like to 95 as well. Had to tweak it a bit so sent back in for some work. looking forward to getting it back

I haven't tried the TC100 that much to provide feedback. Honestly I am not a big fan of 100 sq.in racquets as I am still comfortable with 95-97 sq.in frames.

The guy in video is currently playing Donnay X-White 99 and have great success with it. He doesn't want to switch to X-Dual or Pro One, but he is looking for something similar to X-White 99 with a little more power. He said the TC100 has similar solid feel to Donnay, but Donnay swings faster thru the air. That's all he said after shooting video. He is testing the TC100 and I should get more feedback from him this weekend.

Chas
11-20-2012, 07:32 AM
Suppawat did the TC100 give you what you were looking for in the 100 sq. in. dept? I like to 95 as well. Had to tweak it a bit so sent back in for some work. looking forward to getting it back


Kal-El 43 your initial review of the 95 seemed very positive. What kind of adjustment are you going for - weight/ balance, or something else ?

Kal-El 34
11-20-2012, 07:39 AM
just making it a tad more headlight. the swingweight was a bit too heavy for me to use for long periods of time. a little shift in balance should do the trick

love the racket though... part of the fun of a custom stick from Angell is the customer service one receives with purchase. You want something tweaked... no problem

Jacklondon00
12-20-2012, 08:51 PM
In the UK the Angell rackets sell for 139, which is $225!

Can anyone compare the older VT221 95 sq model with the new Angell frames? Are the new Angell frames still made of "High Modulus Carbon Fibre". DO they feel different?

I actually didn't like the VT221 when I compared it to my PC600, so you can now find it on the big auction site.

I am still looking for a mid plus frame that plays and feels like a PC600 or PP Brown but just a little more forgiving. Donnay Pro One?

Anton
12-31-2012, 03:04 AM
I am still looking for a mid plus frame that plays and feels like a PC600 or PP Brown but just a little more forgiving. Donnay Pro One?

Sorry to break this to you - no such thing...closest I could think of is Microgel Radical MP with a lot of carefully distributed weight on it. Donnay Pro One feels stiffer.

Disneos
12-31-2012, 09:20 PM
So my current set up I'm considering is :
( I'm a junior recovering from arm and shoulder problems )

TC95 Red with Black Grip - 16x19, 63RA, 27', 320g (11.4oz), 315mm (9pts.HL), with a 4 3/8 grip but can't decide between B and C!

so what do you think is more comfortable B or C and do you think an 18x20 pattern would be to stiff for my arm?

db379
01-02-2013, 09:38 AM
Kal el and Suppawat,

Any news on the Angel 95? Have you played more with it? Have you switched to it and why or why not?

Chas
01-02-2013, 10:55 AM
Kal el and Suppawat,

Any news on the Angel 95? Have you played more with it? Have you switched to it and why or why not?

I expect Kal el or Suppawat will reply to this , but I hope you don't mind me jumping in - it looks like you're looking for feedback from Angel users.

I received my TC95 at the beginning of December - Initial details are here http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=7049980&postcount=193

I've strung it with Signum Pro Micronite 16 at 53 lbs (Mikeler's top choice) http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=352048. Seemed a good time to try this string out, rather than my usual Yonex 850 at 53 lbs.

My previous and therefore comparison racquets are the Dunlop 4D 200 (18 x20) and Dunlop Bio 200 tour (16x18)


Due to the rather cold and damp weather at this time of year in Scotland I've only had half a dozen matches with it so far, but here's some initial thoughts ...




Despite being fairly closely matched to my Dunlop Bio 200 Tour it feels quite a bit easier to swing and more maneuverable.

The grip size on both is a 3, (B shape on the Angel), but the Angel seems a bit bigger so I've foregone the usual overwrap on it. I find the synthetic grip they fit just right in terms of grippiness/comfort - in fact I've asked Paul if I can buy some more.


The comfort/feel balance is excellent. Some Vantage users have described them as muted. Actually I find the Angel less so than my Dunlops. There's good feel for the ball, without any unwanted vibration etc.


In terms of power it has a larger sweetspot or a more even response than the Dunlops. With the current combination of string and racquet I get the same or more pace than the Dunlops but with an easier takeback, so I'm getting more winners out of it - always welcome :)

I use fairly strong topspin (semi western grip) on forehand and ohbh. The Angel works great off both wings and I'm getting the same or more spin when I need it . Slice backhands also work a treat with good bite and feel to send them on their way.

Mid court pickups and volleys are better than the Dunlops due to the easier takeback & more balanced feel and more even response off the various parts of the string bed .


Serves are better than the Dunlops - I get more bite on the ball for slice serves/kickers and similar pace for the flat serves.


All in all a real pleasure to use and the best racquet I've ever owned (which was a relief to me as it was a stretch financially). I still make some mishits and errors, but I'd say they are mine, not the racquets, and I'm working on honing those down for one enjoyable season of tennis . I suppose the final icing on the cake is my results have been consistently better with the Angel.


I'm sure others with have differing views, some less glowing, since there's no such thing as a magic one for all racquet, but I hope that feedback helps a bit.

db379
01-03-2013, 05:00 AM
Hi Chas,

Thanks a lot for your feedback. It looks like you have found your stick!

Do you have experience with the previous version of the 200 Tour, the 4D 200 Tour? I have used this stick and find it quite to my liking. I haven't played the bio version. I like the fact that the response seems even across the stringbed on the Angell according to what you said. One think that I may not like with the Angell is the muted feel... I have played with some pro stocks and one Vantage before and they did feel muted. I tend to like some feedback to the hand, which is why I never use a dampener on my sticks. Could you comment more on this?

Chas
01-03-2013, 05:47 AM
Hi Chas,

Thanks a lot for your feedback. It looks like you have found your stick!

Do you have experience with the previous version of the 200 Tour, the 4D 200 Tour? I have used this stick and find it quite to my liking. I haven't played the bio version. I like the fact that the response seems even across the stringbed on the Angell according to what you said. One think that I may not like with the Angell is the muted feel... I have played with some pro stocks and one Vantage before and they did feel muted. I tend to like some feedback to the hand, which is why I never use a dampener on my sticks. Could you comment more on this?


Yes, I have the 4D 200 Tour as well. A nice racquet - and the best looking Dunlop in my opinion .

It's difficult to beat the plow through you get on the 4D Tour, so I guess it depends on your style. With the 4D I found it best to abbreviate the racquet swing and use the swing weight to help punch the ball back. On a free flowing singles game that worked fine for the ground shots, and for block back returns of serve. Where I suffered was on reactive shots (especially in Doubles), and the mid court pick ups.

By contrast the Angell feels much easier to swing and I can get more head turn on the ball to generate spin. I also find the serve easier to vary between the various styles - flat, spin etc. The 4D required a more deliberate action , if that makes sense.

I think the sweetspot on the Angell is a bit bigger, or to put it another way it's a bit more forgiving.

I don't really notice that the Angell is more muted than the 4D Tour - but that could just be me !

Roforot
01-22-2013, 06:39 AM
just making it a tad more headlight. the swingweight was a bit too heavy for me to use for long periods of time. a little shift in balance should do the trick

love the racket though... part of the fun of a custom stick from Angell is the customer service one receives with purchase. You want something tweaked... no problem

Just curious to see if you've received the racquet back. Would you share the difference you're aiming for in swing weight? I'm curious to see if this lower swing weight leads you back to Donnay?

TfReAk
01-22-2013, 07:37 AM
I haven't played TC100 a lot, but my player did. He tested 2 frames one is 300g, 330mm, 70RA, Blue and the other one is 310g, 315mm, 70RA, Red.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JS6Kp3mSKM

He likes to 310g better because of more head light balance. Even though the Blue is lighter, but the less head light doesn't really allow him to accelerate the head speed as good as the red one. I left the racquet with him for further playtesting and will share with you guys again.

For me, I really like the TC95 (16x19, 63RA, 310g). It has a huge sweet sot, and that makes it such a consistent hitting frame.

Suppawat what is the balance on the TC95 (16*19, 63RA, 310g)? Does it swing fast?

Goose
02-26-2013, 01:32 AM
Ok, so after a bit of a wait my frame arrived last week. I haven't had a chance to string it up yet.

Can anyone provide me with a set of stringing instructions for the 18x20. I had a bit of a look at it today and some of the grommets look like they could go either way. Would rather not get half way through a stringing job and realise I've screwed up.

Even if someone could provide detailed pics of their strung TC95 18x20 showing locations of mains and crosses that would be fantastic.

EDIT: I had a better look at the photos in the first post and they show what I was looking for pretty well. All I can't really spot is the knots. Was it a 1 piece job or two?

Dave M
03-12-2013, 03:22 AM
Hey Goose they were up on Angell sports facebook feed yesterday.If you haven't already found them!

I've had mine for a while now so thought i would chime in, as a previous 70ra vantage owner from Paul a couple years ago I wasn't sure entirely what to expect going to 63 ra and a 95" headsize. My thoughts about the 95" are that it is every bit as solid as the mid, off centre shots are more forgiving (as you would imagine really and i do have some expertise in doing that.)
Groundstrokes are just smooth, when you get the weight and balance of a frame sorted you should just flow into a stroke and now i've got that sorted it does seem to happen (I say seem because I haven't had to watch myself play!!) and the biggest advantage as a side effect of this is reduced stress on the shoulder and wrist that i was suffering making me take 6 months off. I probably hit flatter on the forehand than the backhand what that means is I tend to find one can suffer as the other increases in pace or power but the more open patern on the tc 95 is a very good compromise and for me is a better fit than the 18 by 20/ (I have an old one of htose two so nothing against it!)
.I find if i goto (I'm not bashing the pure drive i played with them for the first 3 incarnations)as an example the pure drive i get lazy, start arming the ball strokes break down and after not very long it hurts, I don't have that happen with my ANgell frames.
Serves, my flat serve is not yet up to speed and consistancy i had previously but hopefully with time and when my shoulder gets used to the motion again it'll get there, the 16/19 pattern is open enough for even a moderate top spin technique to generate some decent spin, and my kick serve is already starting to jump about which is good because the "free" points are always welcome!
Volleys, this is where i can get a lot lazy with any frame, i play a lot of doubles and can get a bit stationary and be guilty of letting the ball come to me so i can play some fancy stop volley, I can still do that but if you get the frame out in front of you and contact it as you should watching the ball i can't imagine even those who aren't too confident having problems with their volleys.
I chose the grip shape close to wilson for mine.The Angell is the first frame you as a member of the public can buy that i've found comes close to the pro staff feeling I grew up with.For many years I bought (and then quickly sold) just about every make of frame avaliable from the smaller companies to the big boys.The truth appears to be that in their quest to make frames appeal to everyone the "lighter & stiffer is better" mantra has taken away layers of graphite from the mix (to increase profit too no doubt)and introduced all this wonderful new tech that in many cases appears to be just marketing.What brought me to Pauls frame first was another member on here who had heard me asking about an old dunlop i liked and i was told if you want old school classic feel without the gimmicks this is the guy to goto.Couldn't of been more true!
I'd say that if anyone is considering a midplus frame you've got to give them a try,I like many of you have used just about every brand out there retail and pro stock (In case it's relevent to you i've owned head pt's and tgk frames, yonex custom player stock and some of the wilson "H" series) but the solidity and connection to the ball I get with these is better than anything else avaliable on the market.To all those who say that frames don't feel as they did "x" amount of years ago, these are the ones to go to!
If anyone is wondering get a demo or pm me if you've got a question you want an answer to.

High street sw19
03-12-2013, 05:21 AM
Hey Goose they were up on Angell sports facebook feed yesterday.If you haven't already found them!

I've had mine for a while now so thought i would chime in, as a previous 70ra vantage owner from Paul a couple years ago I wasn't sure entirely what to expect going to 63 ra and a 95" headsize. My thoughts about the 95" are that it is every bit as solid as the mid, off centre shots are more forgiving (as you would imagine really and i do have some expertise in doing that)I chose the grip shape close to wilson for mine. I'd say that if anyone is considering a midplus frame you've got to give them a try,I like many of you have used just about every brand out there retail and pro stock but the solidity and connection to the ball I get with these is better than anything else avaliable on the market.To all those who say that frames don't feel as they did "x" amount of years ago, these are the ones to go to!


Hi is this brand a internet only one?, I asked at my local stringer last night and he said they are not available in pro shops, do you know any stores that carry/demo them? Thanks

Dave M
03-12-2013, 05:48 AM
Hi is this brand a internet only one?, I asked at my local stringer last night and he said they are not available in pro shops, do you know any stores that carry/demo them? Thanks

They demo frames direct to you, I'm not aware of anyone who keeps them as they are ordered to your specs i imagine it'd be hard for a shop to carry one of every possible spec alteration.
Give Paul a shout and he'll send some to you

High street sw19
03-12-2013, 05:53 AM
They demo frames direct to you, I'm not aware of anyone who keeps them as they are ordered to your specs i imagine it'd be hard for a shop to carry one of every possible spec alteration.
Give Paul a shout and he'll send some to you

Cheers ;-)

Swedish9
04-05-2013, 05:12 PM
Does anyone have any experience with an Angell/Vantage racquet that is 28in?
If you do not have any experience with those specific racquets, but have played with a 28in racquet, could you tell me how it felt?

I have been very interested in knowing how a Angell/Vantage racquet would feel in 28in, after hearing so many people rave about their racquets.
I have considered buying a racquet by them (it would be the TC100, 16 x 19, 63 RA, 28in, 11.7 ounces unstrung, 12 pts headlight unstrung, handle shape A or B, and with a Red Grommet and Red leather grip).

Also i have heard that the grip sizes are a tad bigger then normal rackets. ( ie. An Angell 4 5/8 Shape A is bigger then a Head Youtek Ig Prestige 4 5/8)

Can anyone shed some light on these issues?

kostak
04-06-2013, 04:23 AM
I have a Vantage 95 grip size 4 5/8 and it feels true in size

Sander001
04-06-2013, 08:26 AM
https://lqlklw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pmYFZCb4B1Rq4AYCZc95XPvHExdZT8Fwutbl49olz6CSVaL9 cNakOpsMzW2xKe4veqeKXXckF8I0GbNJ2DoizWg4tiK1N02bt/Angell_07.JPGI like how it looks like the specs are written in by hand with a marker.

Kal-El 34
04-06-2013, 09:41 AM
I like how it looks like the specs are written in by hand with a marker.

haha that is because they are hand written by marker

Kal-El 34
04-06-2013, 09:43 AM
I had mine 27 1/4 inch built and my grip snapped where the grip was extended. I sent it in for repair and it came back standard length. Still trying to work with Paul on a solution here. He is a nice guy though and very good communicator. Hopefully we can get things all sorted out.

Torres
04-06-2013, 10:14 AM
I had mine 27 1/4 inch built and my grip snapped where the grip was extended. I sent it in for repair and it came back standard length.

That's disappointing. Presumably they just glue something on rather than having a longer (molded?) pallet and handle in the first place?

Swedish9
04-06-2013, 10:34 AM
Looked all over his website for a Contact Number.

Can any of you guys help me out with that?

s-keeper
04-06-2013, 02:38 PM
Extended length Vantage handles were most defiantly proper longer pallets - I have 27.5" and 28" ones and can vouch for that. I assume the Angell are the same!

Kal-El 34
04-06-2013, 03:16 PM
maybe it was. maybe i just snapped the butt cap off through the foam core?

Sander001
04-06-2013, 04:18 PM
haha that is because they are hand written by markerheh didn't want to be overly presumptuous :-o