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Logic Dude
11-22-2012, 09:32 AM
I did some searching and couldn't find a direct comparison. I'm just wondering what comparisons could be made between the two.

Thanks!

royroy85
11-22-2012, 09:19 PM
Hey mate,

I have used both rackets (the k factor 18 x 20) for two years before changing to the Prince Rebel 2009. These are my takes on the sticks

Power: 95 18 X 20 by a tonne. The racket has free good power from groundies and serves. Plowthrough is much more noticeable with the Wilson and the ball moves through the court more.
Control: The Prince is low powered as compared to the Wilson and thus more control. It requires a longer swinger style to get the same depth as compared to the Wilson. Short slow swings will result in short balls and you will be on the defensive a lot of times.
Top Spin: Wilson, no doubt. The racket doesnt feel like a closed string pattern at all. Has loads of spin from both wings and kick serves are a monster with this.
Slice: The Prince has better bh slices and I attribute this to the tight string set tup.
Volleys: The Prince has more feel and thus touch is really good, the wilson is crisp and touch volleys though not entirely bad, are not as good.
Comfort: The most decisive factor for me in choosing the better stick...The Rebel has smooth, plush feeling..you can swing it all day even with stiff poly. The K factor version almost left me an amputee...seriously I had TE from this stick that made me shriek at night after playing...The Rebel however is more prone to shanking than the K factor which has a very uniform bed response...

As you can see, not much parallels besides specs. These are very different individuals. You have to work harder with the Rebel to win matches because of the low power, you can bully the your opponent with the Wilson which I should add that I would have stuck with it if it wasnt for the TE..Hope that helps..
:)

Logic Dude
11-23-2012, 05:54 AM
Thanks! That's a nice comparison. One question- You said that the Wilson has more plow through. Does that equate to more stability to you?

themitchmann
11-23-2012, 06:03 AM
If you can handle the weight, a little lead at 3/9 does a lot to provide more stability with the Rebel.

Logic Dude
11-23-2012, 06:17 AM
If you can handle the weight, a little lead at 3/9 does a lot to provide more stability with the Rebel.

Thanks. I might try that sometime.

ricki
11-23-2012, 06:20 AM
Rebel is one of stablest racquets around for me. Dont forget to string it with soft and thin gauge poly to get most. I really loved Isospeed baseline spin in it. My next try will be RPM Blast 18, BB Ace, Cyclone 17

Logic Dude
11-23-2012, 06:48 AM
Rebel is one of stablest racquets around for me. Dont forget to string it with soft and thin gauge poly to get most. I really loved Isospeed baseline spin in it. My next try will be RPM Blast 18, BB Ace, Cyclone 17

It definitely is stable. I was just curious about his statement that the Wilson has more pow through, which interested me.

Torres
11-23-2012, 06:55 AM
The racket doesnt feel like a closed string pattern at all.

Yes, it does. It feel exactly like what it is - a flat hitting, directionally precise, closed pattern stick.

Has loads of spin from both wings and kick serves are a monster with this.

That's a bit of an exaggeration.

Logic Dude
11-23-2012, 08:57 AM
So Torres, you disagree that it has good spin potential compared to the rebel?

sansaephanh
11-23-2012, 10:26 AM
I agree with torres. Both have around the same spin production. The same headsize with the same dense pattern can't hold that much of a difference unless you're swinging better with one then the other.

The rebel was my stick of choice for about a year. Very low powered, but nicely balances lively strings such as BHBR17. The only real reason I switched was because I was getting no pop on serves. I had to work like my life depended on it to hold.

The wilson has more power and a stiffer feel. Prince has the muted comfy, speed port feel. Though I switched the grommets for a bigger sweet spot.

Torres
11-23-2012, 11:12 AM
So Torres, you disagree that it has good spin potential compared to the rebel?

I love the 6.1 18x20 - used them for about 3 years until I switched to the Juice Pro - but I would never describe the 6.1 18x20 as a stick that offers loads of spin and doesn't feel like it has a closed pattern. Are you sure you're not mistaking it for the 16x18?

Logic Dude
11-23-2012, 11:52 AM
I love the 6.1 18x20 - used them for about 3 years until I switched to the Juice Pro - but I would never describe the 6.1 18x20 as a stick that offers loads of spin and doesn't feel like it has a closed pattern. Are you sure you're not mistaking it for the 16x18?

Yes. I was thinking about trying the 95 18x20 because I'm currently using the rebel. I was just wondering how the two compared.

Thanks for your input.

Torres
11-23-2012, 02:30 PM
^ I would recommend trying both of them, and also the 2012 Rebel 95, and also the 16x18 version of the 6.1. Just be aware that they're both demanding 'player' orientated sticks with not alot of margin if you're 'off' your game.

Logic Dude
11-23-2012, 04:59 PM
Alright. Thanks. I'm pretty used to the rebel, so the 95s shouldn't be too big of a leap.

royroy85
11-23-2012, 09:08 PM
Yes, it does. It feel exactly like what it is - a flat hitting, directionally precise, closed pattern stick.



That's a bit of an exaggeration.

Well this being mainly a comparative assessment and my personal opinion I still reiterate that the K factor 6.1 95 18 X 20 had loads of spin, im not talking bout the loopy spin you get from Aero Pros or Extremes but the fast feezy spin. It feels more open as compared to the Rebel, Its more roundish, the rebel is oval and the pattern is definitely more closed with the Rebel...

And yes, I would say the Wilson has more stability, SW are not too different but less shanking with the Wilson

royroy85
11-23-2012, 09:14 PM
^ I would recommend trying both of them, and also the 2012 Rebel 95, and also the 16x18 version of the 6.1. Just be aware that they're both demanding 'player' orientated sticks with not alot of margin if you're 'off' your game.

Yea, demoing is the safest bbet. The 2012 Rebels don't come around as fast as the 2009 version. Good racket though

themitchmann
11-24-2012, 04:41 AM
And yes, I would say the Wilson has more stability, SW are not too different but less shanking with the Wilson

Not sure how stability keeps you from shanking. Stability will help keep the racquet from recoiling on off center hits, but contact is up to the coordination of the player.

sansaephanh
11-24-2012, 11:21 AM
Not sure how stability keeps you from shanking. Stability will help keep the racquet from recoiling on off center hits, but contact is up to the coordination of the player.

Mitch! still using the 2k9 or did you move to the 2k12?

themitchmann
11-24-2012, 12:14 PM
Mitch! still using the 2k9 or did you move to the 2k12?

2k12. Since I'm a sponsored teaching pro, I have to play with current models. I've found the new version is better on touch shots, but requires more work from the baseline (than the 2009).