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heninfan99
01-23-2013, 10:33 AM
Tsonga has always had a powerful serve but are his serve and groundies a bit bigger now that he wields a Babolat???

dominikk1985
01-23-2013, 10:38 AM
I think it's mostly the hot weather that boosts the serve Speeds at the AO.

Wawrinka and almagro also served a couple serves above 220 kph

racertempo
01-23-2013, 11:27 AM
Tsonga has always had a powerful serve but are his serve and groundies a bit bigger now that he wields a Babolat???

He has had Babolat for as long as I can remember, at least the last several years which have been the prime of his game, so I don't think it has anything to do with the frame.

corners
01-23-2013, 11:58 AM
Tsonga has always had a powerful serve but are his serve and groundies a bit bigger now that he wields a Babolat???

Not very much bigger. The Babolat Arero Pro Drive, if customized to the same specs as Federer's Tour 90, would have nearly identical "power" in the center of the stringbed. If he hit the center with either racquet the resulting shot speeds would be within .5 mph of each other (using the same strings of course.)

Where the stiffer Babolat APD might give a little extra shot speed is on shots hit toward the sides of the frame, where the APD might give Tsonga an extra 1 mph, and toward the tip of the frame, where he might get 1-2 extra mph 2 inches above center, and 3-4 extra if he hits 4 inches above center. Many pros tend to hit the ball above the center of the strings on groundstrokes. So if Tsonga is like that his groundstrokes might be 1-2 mph, max, faster with the APD than the Tour 90. Most pros hit about 2 inches above center when serving, so its likely that Tsonga gets about 2 mph extra with his APD on serve.

TennezSport
01-23-2013, 12:02 PM
It's all in Tsonga's recent change in strings. Tsonga is now using the same string setup as Federer, Djokovic and Murray; NG/Lux Alu Power hybrid.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

crosscourt
01-23-2013, 01:31 PM
Tsonga has always had a powerful serve but are his serve and groundies a bit bigger now that he wields a Babolat???

It was reported that the spin of the Babolat was the reason for the change. So he may be hitting the ball with more power in a different trajectory.

tennisnut123
01-23-2013, 04:48 PM
It's all in Tsonga's recent change in strings. Tsonga is now using the same string setup as Federer, Djokovic and Murray; NG/Lux Alu Power hybrid.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

Alu Power Rough...right?

And im pretty sure that he used straight up alu rough when he was using the blade tour (or what was painted to look like a blade tour) back when he made his breakout Australian run.

LeeD
01-23-2013, 06:43 PM
He's 6'2" and 185lbs.
Notice Fed hits just as hard with that tiny racket.

sixone90
01-23-2013, 07:11 PM
Alu Power Rough...right?

And im pretty sure that he used straight up alu rough when he was using the blade tour (or what was painted to look like a blade tour) back when he made his breakout Australian run.

I think it was just ALU Power

Relinquis
01-23-2013, 08:54 PM
these guys have been serving so well, it's in Serena Williams territory...

What's her set up? Also NatGut/Poly

dr325i
01-24-2013, 04:54 AM
It's all in Tsonga's recent change in strings. Tsonga is now using the same string setup as Federer, Djokovic and Murray; NG/Lux Alu Power hybrid.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

Murray is NOT using the same setup as Djokovic/Federer...

PED
01-24-2013, 05:02 AM
He's 6'2" and 185lbs.
Notice Fed hits just as hard with that tiny racket.

I think he's a bit bigger than 185 lol

raging
01-24-2013, 08:31 AM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Jo-Wilfried-Tsonga.aspx

It has got nothing to do with the racquet.

NetNinja68
01-25-2013, 09:32 AM
It was reported that the spin of the Babolat was the reason for the change. So he may be hitting the ball with more power in a different trajectory.

Who told you that B.S., the Babolat rep?? It was for $$$. If spin was his true motivator, he'd have switched to the new Steam 99s already...

The Bawss
01-25-2013, 10:53 AM
Lol some of you guys are either 15 or just really cute with a very simplistic world view. Tsonga changed to babolat when he hit the big time because babolat approached him with lots of $$$ when he became the best player/prospect for French tennis. And that is a fact.

movdqa
01-25-2013, 11:19 AM
I think that the huge amount of lead in his frame has more to do with his power than the Babolat that he uses.

tennisnut123
01-25-2013, 11:57 AM
Lol some of you guys are either 15 or just really cute with a very simplistic world view. Tsonga changed to babolat when he hit the big time because babolat approached him with lots of $$$ when he became the best player/prospect for French tennis. And that is a fact.

haha so true, only seems right that a Company based in France would want to have the number one French player on board...money money money money

NLBwell
01-25-2013, 12:18 PM
Maybe +1 mph. Strings, weighting, etc. have far more effect.

crosscourt
01-25-2013, 01:56 PM
Who told you that B.S., the Babolat rep?? It was for $$$. If spin was his true motivator, he'd have switched to the new Steam 99s already...

If only I had thought of that.

Harry_Wild
01-27-2013, 11:10 PM
these guys have been serving so well, it's in Serena Williams territory...

What's her set up? Also NatGut/Poly

William Sisters string with natural gut - at high tension maybe in the 60s. She and Venus now use a racket that was going to be tried out by Roger but some how got into Serena's hands! It was painted black and she played a whole tournament with this one Wilson racket - she won the tournament too. Venus tried it out too and love it. If I recalled he old racket was a Prostaff Original 95 with a PJ for her Blade 104(current) and then she went to the Wilson thick frames for a year or so(early 2000?) and came back to her original frame until she try out the black racket.

TimothyO
01-28-2013, 04:16 AM
William Sisters string with natural gut - at high tension maybe in the 60s. She and Venus now use a racket that was going to be tried out by Roger but some how got into Serena's hands! It was painted black and she played a whole tournament with this one Wilson racket - she won the tournament too. Venus tried it out too and love it. If I recalled he old racket was a Prostaff Original 95 with a PJ for her Blade 104(current) and then she went to the Wilson thick frames for a year or so(early 2000?) and came back to her original frame until she try out the black racket.

Serena started using Wilson Natural Gut / 4G in 2012 (spring/early summer
IIRC).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A0_rkwUCEAAU9AC.jpg

corners
01-29-2013, 07:44 AM
William Sisters string with natural gut - at high tension maybe in the 60s. She and Venus now use a racket that was going to be tried out by Roger but some how got into Serena's hands! It was painted black and she played a whole tournament with this one Wilson racket - she won the tournament too. Venus tried it out too and love it. If I recalled he old racket was a Prostaff Original 95 with a PJ for her Blade 104(current) and then she went to the Wilson thick frames for a year or so(early 2000?) and came back to her original frame until she try out the black racket.

Are you saying that V&S are now playing with a 95 Wilson with a Blade 104 PJ?

Power Player
01-29-2013, 07:54 AM
Bab is coming out with a player's stick. An 18x20 that Tsonga has been playtesting, which is similar to his old Wilson Blade.

I have a feeling he switches to that.

TennezSport
01-29-2013, 10:03 AM
Alu Power Rough...right?

And im pretty sure that he used straight up alu rough when he was using the blade tour (or what was painted to look like a blade tour) back when he made his breakout Australian run.

Rough for Fed and Power for Djoker, from what I was told.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool:

TennezSport
01-29-2013, 10:06 AM
Murray is NOT using the same setup as Djokovic/Federer...

Unless he changed for the AO, the info I received from the Wilson stringing team last year, Murray is using NG and Lux, just not sure which is in the mains.

Cheers, TennezSport :cool: