Serve Volleyers an outdated game?

[serveit]

is the the all out serve and volley tatic to old to work in this modern day of baseline tennis

What do you guys think

[glass]

If you're a good athlete, it's possible.

[theace21]

Ask Taylor Dent...

[joe sch]

Its a skill that any player who want to get to the top needs to have.
Im excited seeing that Roddick has now starting to SV and it made the difference in many wins recently including his SF victory over Hewitt at Cinci. It may even give him a chance of beating Federer since he could not do it from the baseline.

[joe sch]

is the the all out serve and volley tatic to old to work in this modern day of baseline tennis

What do you guys think
Yes, I think that vintage Edberg could still contend for slams today !

[Koaske]

Serve and volley may not work as well in pro level as before(but still works, not just as well) , but in the level we play in, it rocks.

[serveit]

Do you serve and volley Koaske
or are you an All-courter

[SageOfDeath]

is the the all out serve and volley tatic to old to work in this modern day of baseline tennis

What do you guys think

:shock: I just wrote a long response but I deleted it, in short, it still works very well.

[serveit]

im a counter puncher so i love serve volleys i love the target at the net and ive played people who are 400 in the world and have beaten them because they are serve vollyers and otha tyms ive played people who are 800 in the world and have lost because they can rally and play from the baseline as well as the net so i think that serve volleying is quite a weak game style at a level

[SageOfDeath]

really now? Exactly how did you defeat these great S&V players? Just curious. Did you pass them? Even at pro level hitting an angled passing shot against a well positioned S&V player is a low percentage shot.

[serveit]

i ment that i find that my game suits a serve volley player you must have interpet it wrong i have lost to world ronked players in a best of three set match in under 25 mins
i just think that the game is a bit outdated i just prefer to play serve volleys

[Morpheus]

Its a skill that any player who want to get to the top needs to have.
Im excited seeing that Roddick has now starting to SV and it made the difference in many wins recently including his SF victory over Hewitt at Cinci. It may even give him a chance of beating Federer since he could not do it from the baseline.

As someone on this board once put it...Roddick looks like Bambi on ice when he comes to net. :) He has a long way to go...

[serveit]

roddick is awful at the net

tday agisnt federer he was so tentative not playing from the heart

[FiveO]

If you're a good athlete, it's possible.

Correct. I also think one has to be "wired" for it. In addition it takes more time to play s&v well than it does remaining near the relative safety of the baseline.

[AndrewD]

Serve and volley may not work as well in pro level as before(but still works, not just as well) , but in the level we play in, it rocks.

I agree completely. At the very top level it is a difficult style to manage if you play it both serves or even first serves only. However, at the lower levels it is a very effective style of game and the lower you go the more effective it is.

[joe sch]

roddick is awful at the net

tday agisnt federer he was so tentative not playing from the heart
Agree, but the point is that is getting more aggressive against Federer and winning more points by following his powerful serve in for volleys ! If he continues this trend, his confidence and comfort level will continue to increase and this may give him the edge against Roger in an upcoming victory. I give Andy alot of credit for making this change since he is not satisfied with being in the top 5 and hope it pays off soon :)

[troytennisbum]

I agree completely. At the very top level it is a difficult style to manage if you play it both serves or even first serves only. However, at the lower levels it is a very effective style of game and the lower you go the more effective it is.

I'm not so sure about that......given that the serve/volley takes a lot of skill I rarely see it executed effectively at the lower levels of the game.

[SageOfDeath]

depends on what you mean by lower levels.

[shindemac]

There are still some top players who s&v like tim henman and greg rusedski. So I think it's still viable. There's no reason why there can't be more henmans or rusedskis playing.

[serveit]

Agree, but the point is that is getting more aggressive against Federer and winning more points by following his powerful serve in for volleys ! If he continues this trend, his confidence and comfort level will continue to increase and this may give him the edge against Roger in an upcoming victory. I give Andy alot of credit for making this change since he is not satisfied with being in the top 5 and hope it pays off soon :)
Roddick will never beat federer he isnt good enough

simple as
hes not confortable at the net the only reason why it looks like he can volley is because he has a massive serve

[samdwaney1]

yes it is hugely outdated but still a important skill to ahve if ou want to get to the top

[federerer]

Well, I'm a serve and volleyer, and I think it's very difficult to rely solely on serve and volley these days.

1. it takes too long to learn. if you are a junior kids you used to beat will be handling you for a while until you refine your technique.

2. technology. with the new racket technology you can hit topspin using only your wrist and hit crazy winners at full stretch. The technology offsets quite a bit of the positional advantage of serving and volleying, imo.

You have to have other weapons these days. all court is the best way to go.

[Serve-And-Volley]

I'm a serve and volley player also and i agree it can be hard to consistently serve and volley today but it is still effective against a lot of players because you can use their powerful returns and send a winner anywhere on the court. It is also good to make your opponet nervous so he will hit shots into the net or go for the big winner and miss. So i definatly say that a serve and volley game is NOT outdated.

[joe sch]

Roddick will never beat federer he isnt good enough

simple as
hes not confortable at the net the only reason why it looks like he can volley is because he has a massive serve
I dissagree as my prior post entails
I think Roddick will prove you and all the current baseline blasting teachers wrong and this will help start the trend to more *smart* tennis ;-)

[Tennis Ball Hitter]

well actualy I think serveit makes a good point. At my level of tennis most of the S&V guys have big bombing serves and occasionally when I do return it in the court they need to volley it. So they are more big servers as opposed to S&V's.

The problem with these guys is you don't know where to put them. When they are on they could play a couple of divs up, but when they are not they could probably lose a couple of divs down.

So they are stuck in this middle ground and you always feel a little cheated when you play them, when they are on, you lose in 30 mins but when they are off you win in 30 mins [more like they lose in 30 mins]. Its very rare to have a competative match/hit with these types of players.

[GuyClinch]

well actualy I think serveit makes a good point. At my level of tennis most of the S&V guys have big bombing serves and occasionally when I do return it in the court they need to volley it. So they are more big servers as opposed to S&V's.

Of course it still works. Taylor Dent IS a pro player who uses that tatic. I don't like to play it though because it takes so much effort, IMHO. You have to rush the net on all your serves. It's tiring. Plus you end up chasing down alot of lobs which again is tiring. Many people now can hit winners from the baseline so why bother with that style?

Pete