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BreakPoint
08-30-2005, 12:49 AM
I was watching a tape of the 1980 U.S. Open final between Borg and McEnroe and noticed that Borg was using his Donnay Borg Pro racquet. I thought Borg had always used his Bancroft Borg Personal racquet when he played in the U.S., and only used the Donnay when he played outside of the U.S.? That's the way I thought I had remembered it.

So when did Borg stop using the Bancroft and why? Did Bancroft cancel his contract? Did he ever go back to using the Bancroft before he retired?

AndrewD
08-30-2005, 04:00 AM
BreakPoint,

I'm sure the truth is it had something to do with money but I remember hearing one of the commentators a number of years back (could have been Trabert or Stolle) suggest that there was a little bit of supersition at the heart of things. He won the French and Wimbledon with Donnay but came up empty using Bancroft in the States so, perhaps using Donnay at the US would tip the scales in his favour.

Of course, that's only their hunch but you never know.

BreakPoint
08-30-2005, 09:11 AM
That could be true, AndrewD. However, I've also heard (not sure if it's true or not) that Borg's Bancroft racquets were just Donnay Allwoods or Borg Pros with Bancroft paintjobs anyway. I mean, I highly doubt he really switched to a different racquet every time he crossed back and forth across the Atlantic.

Michael B
02-13-2010, 06:39 PM
I think the last tournament that Borg played with the Bjorn Borg Personal was the masters in January 1980. He won that event beating Connors, McEnroe and Gerulaitis along the way. He introduced the Donnay Bjorn Borg Pro soon in the U.S. at the Pepsi Grand Slam.

I think his contract that ran out with Bancroft. The Donnay Bjorn Borg Pro actually replaced both his Bancroft Personal and Donnay Allwood. His newer racquet was a composite wood/graphite. The two others were strictly wood.

Borg didn't end his contract with Bancroft, he used a Bancroft racquet in Australia in 1982 in an exhibition tournament.

vsbabolat
02-13-2010, 08:18 PM
I think the last tournament that Borg played with the Bjorn Borg Personal was the masters in January 1980. He won that event beating Connors, McEnroe and Gerulaitis along the way. He introduced the Donnay Bjorn Borg Pro soon in the U.S. at the Pepsi Grand Slam.

I think his contract that ran out with Bancroft. The Donnay Bjorn Borg Pro actually replaced both his Bancroft Personal and Donnay Allwood. His newer racquet was a composite wood/graphite. The two others were strictly wood.

Borg didn't end his contract with Bancroft, he used a Bancroft racquet in Australia in 1982 in an exhibition tournament.

The Borg Pro was not a wood/graphite composite. The Borg Pro was constructed using: Vulcanized Fiber, Maple, Beech, and Ash. The Borg Pro Midsize was a wood/graphite reinforced frame.

In November 1982 Borg at this exhibition against McEnroe in Sydney, Australia was using what looks to be a Donnay Borg Pro with a Bancroft "B" Stencil on the strings. The quality is really poor so it is hard to see clearly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFXnTGqbwsU&feature=related
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=227694&highlight=borg

dgoran
02-14-2010, 04:39 PM
^^^^^
Damn "...Vulcanized Fiber, Maple, Beech, and Ash..." sounds like some Kligon weapon from Star Treck
http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2009/11/Star_Trek_worf_dorn-thumb-550x394-28717.jpg

Greek Goliath
02-14-2010, 05:22 PM
xD at the above post!

Looks like gimmicks started early! I love how Donnay uses each different tree as a different material. Sounds a lot more complex than just "wood"...

Cheers,

Greek Goliath

vsbabolat
02-14-2010, 06:07 PM
xD at the above post!

Looks like gimmicks started early! I love how Donnay uses each different tree as a different material. Sounds a lot more complex than just "wood"...

Cheers,

Greek Goliath

There is no Gimmicks with these wood racquets. Actually different woods gave different feel and stiffness. Like the Dunlop Maxply McEnroe was made from Maple, Hickory, Vulcanized Fiber, Beech, Ash, with Fiberglass reinforced shoulders. While the Snauwaert Brian Gottfried Autograph was made using All White Ash, Vulcanized Fiber Laminated Shaft and Bow.
This is a comprehensive explanation of how wood tennis racquets were made:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0002.jpg

borg number one
02-14-2010, 06:44 PM
See this Time article on Borg that came out in June 1980. By then Borg had stopped using Bancroft racquets in the U.S., but see this article. It mentions that he was still sponsored by Bancroft to use their frames in Australia only. So, that endorsement may have continued even into the early 1980's. I was not aware of Borg still using Bancroft, but only in Australia post 1979 or so.


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,924276-2,00.html

Court_Jester
02-14-2010, 06:54 PM
There's got to be a rule against resurrecting 5-year-old threads. :P

Mansewerz
02-14-2010, 07:29 PM
There is no Gimmicks with these wood racquets. Actually different woods gave different feel and stiffness. Like the Dunlop Maxply McEnroe was made from Maple, Hickory, Vulcanized Fiber, Beech, Ash, with Fiberglass reinforced shoulders. While the Snauwaert Brian Gottfried Autograph was made using All White Ash, Vulcanized Fiber Laminated Shaft and Bow.
This is a comprehensive explanation of how wood tennis racquets were made:
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/IMG_0002.jpg

vsbabolat, I have to ask, where do you find all this information, and how do you have such knowledge of racquets? Are you a collector?

You're not Bud collins, are you?