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Maledizione
10-05-2005, 06:26 PM
What is the consensus/opinion on this?

- Does anyone here use an underhanded serve?
- Has anyone played someone who at anytime used an underhanded serve?
- Has anyone been in a match or seen a match where the serve was contested or complained about?

I'm considering using this serve on some second serves from the ad court in a match tomorrow as an added way to attack a so-so backhand and also to come in and volley and finish off the point.

snowpuppy
10-05-2005, 06:54 PM
try this http://tennis.about.com/od/serve/a/serveundsidevid.htm?once=true&

cadfael_tex
10-05-2005, 07:01 PM
There is nothing illegal about an underhand serve. Chang had to resort to it in the French final he won. The only problem is that one cannot produce nearly as much pace as with a conventional serve. At some level it will certainly be creamed by your opponent. That said, if it works for you go for it.

akj27
10-05-2005, 07:03 PM
holy crap, check out the video, the spin is insane

cadfael_tex
10-05-2005, 07:12 PM
Easy to return though, as soon as you see the wrist dropping go that direction and you've got a good angle for a winner.

CrazyScheiner
10-05-2005, 07:12 PM
try this http://tennis.about.com/od/serve/a/serveundsidevid.htm?once=true&

I hit something like that once in a while. It ****es off the girls when I practice with them (seeing as men play in the spring, i practice with the girls if i am off of soccer).

fishuuuuu
10-05-2005, 07:13 PM
Mmm my fastest underspin underhand serve is 57 mph. I had it clocked on a gun lol.

fishuuuuu
10-05-2005, 07:19 PM
Besides that I occaisionally use it with my doubles partner and signal him with a wink that I'm going to play an underhanded serve so he can be alert for the easy volley.

VictorS.
10-05-2005, 09:47 PM
I have actually messed around a few times when I'm serving a hopper of balls. And obviously I haven't actually used this serve in a real match. However, I could certainly see how this serve could present problems even for the best of players.


At its best, my underspin serve stays really low to the ground (even lower than most slice backhands). So anybody with extreme grips may have difficulty returning the ball. Another aspect is the sidespin I put on the ball. Now this is the part that I haven't actually mastered. When hit properly, the ball will severely spin to the left of my opponent, which most often is their backhand. I can sometimes get the ball to sidespin like 4-5 ft to the left after the initial bounce.....and with the ball staying extremely low, i can see how it could present problems even for the best of players. Now obviously there haven't been many professionals who use this in their arsenal. I don't know if it is because it seems to be unsportsmanlike or if it appears like a "girly" shot. However from a pure practical standpoint, I'm somewhat intrigued by this type of serve.

dannyjjang
10-05-2005, 09:52 PM
WOW THAT IS SO CRAZI, !!! and its a granpa!!!

Prince_of_Tennis
10-05-2005, 10:04 PM
You can hear grandpas ball.

When I hit mine it has a lot of spin but no pace so it almost does a 90 degree turn

theace21
10-05-2005, 10:20 PM
Good way to get your doubles partner drilled.

Burt Turkoglu
10-05-2005, 11:03 PM
I hit something like that once in a while. It ****es off the girls when I practice with them (seeing as men play in the spring, i practice with the girls if i am off of soccer).
....oh yeah....chicks absolutely hate this serve....

eagle
10-06-2005, 05:21 AM
I used that occassionally during the first match after returning from a 6 wk rehab of my shoulder this past summer. I played with my tennis group, so they didn't mind and understood why I was using it.

Thanks,
eagle

ta11geese3
10-06-2005, 09:47 PM
My friend had to use one after he and his partner went for the same smash and got his serving hand hit by his partner's racquet. It was pretty funny because in the previous games he was hitting these big serves and then all of sudden came these weird slices.

goober
10-06-2005, 09:57 PM
Yeah grandpa would almost certainly draw an error from an opponent of he threw that in all of the sudden in a crucial point in a match after serving regular. That's an insane amount of spin for an underhand serve.

rilokiley
10-07-2005, 01:26 AM
it's something i never do but it works most of the time. like someone already said, it's not easy to attack a ball that stays really low to the ground and the thing is people aren't expecting it.

Tenny
10-07-2005, 05:53 PM
Ok, it worked for Chang against Lendl. What about Hingis (against Steffi)? Did it work for her?

jeefreak
10-07-2005, 06:53 PM
no it didn't. hingis lost i think. from what i heard, she underhanded serve due to bad sportsman ship, hence all the boo's

SageOfDeath
10-07-2005, 07:13 PM
no it didn't. hingis lost i think. from what i heard, she underhanded serve due to bad sportsman ship, hence all the boo's

I didn't watch the match but I think its considered bad sportsmanship to do an underhand serve at pro level if you aren't injured or something. I don't know why, two players on the court are doing anything they legally can to win the game. A drop shot isn't booed why is an underhand serve booed?

Though I don't really see any benefit of an underhand serve other than to catch your opponent off gaurd, but unless you get a lot of spin, point over.....

Burt Turkoglu
10-07-2005, 08:54 PM
....alls fair in love, war and tennis.....if serving underhanded was an advantage over serving overhand then everyone would be doing it.....

TennsDog
10-08-2005, 12:48 PM
I played a kid in HS who used the underhand serve for his second serve every single time. It ****ed both me and my partner off because if you suck too much to hit a real serve, you shouldn't be playing official matches yet. Go back and learn how to hit a proper serve before competing for real.

hipster
10-08-2005, 05:59 PM
Ok, it worked for Chang against Lendl. What about Hingis (against Steffi)? Did it work for her?



didn't she practically get booed off the court? I remember watching that, it was pathetic. I think it's a cheap shot to pull.

jeefreak
10-08-2005, 06:02 PM
i don't think she did it for cheap wins. i think she did it because she just frustrated and 'gave up'..

JZImmer123
10-08-2005, 06:25 PM
I played a kid in HS who used the underhand serve for his second serve every single time. It ****ed both me and my partner off because if you suck too much to hit a real serve, you shouldn't be playing official matches yet. Go back and learn how to hit a proper serve before competing for real.

I don't what the problem is with that guy serving it underhanded unless you and your partner couldn't return the serve. I played with a guy a few times who served underhand on his 2nd serve. He didn't put much spin on it so I was always ready to grip it and rip it. Only problem was I'd end up beating myself once in a while because I would always go for a winner deep by the baseline and it would go long. I would have been okay if I just tried to keep it in the court.

Burt Turkoglu
10-08-2005, 09:09 PM
I played a kid in HS who used the underhand serve for his second serve every single time. It ****ed both me and my partner off because if you suck too much to hit a real serve, you shouldn't be playing official matches yet. Go back and learn how to hit a proper serve before competing for real.
....just shut up and beat the guy.....if he gets his *** beat enough, he'll learn an overhead serve....it's legal.......if you get ****ed about him being allowed to play in official matches.....that's your problem.......also, I remember a clay court specialist who was ranked in the top ten in middle states in the Men's Open........he served a wicked underspin serve on every serve.....it drove alot of good players nuts....nobody liked playing against him but that was tough doodoo.....it's legal....if ya don't like it, start a movement to change the rule......

ondray
10-08-2005, 11:48 PM
I played a kid in HS who used the underhand serve for his second serve every single time. It ****ed both me and my partner off because if you suck too much to hit a real serve, you shouldn't be playing official matches yet. Go back and learn how to hit a proper serve before competing for real.

You are the one who should go back and learn how to deal with underhand serves. And if you suck too much to deal with underhand serves, you shouldn't be playing official matches yet.

RiosTheGenius
10-09-2005, 12:12 AM
I had to finish a match like that once because I pulled a muscle that made it impossible for me to serve normally.
of course I wasn't able to hold serve and lost the match..... not recomended at all. but I'll finish a match on a wheelchair if necessary.

rilokiley
10-09-2005, 03:57 AM
wait so did tennisdog win that match or not??