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THath
06-04-2004, 07:11 AM
I am looking for suggestions for a midsize tweener racquet that is headlight and not too stiff. I have also had some shoulder problems (tendonitis) that aren't too severe but occassionally crop up. I need to demo some racquets before deciding but need to know where to start. I have been using a Price Precision 770 for years and would like something more manueverable. Thanks for your input.

Steve H.
06-04-2004, 08:50 AM
Closest to the 770 these days, but a little shorter and with lower swingweight, might be the Prince NXG Graphite OS. In a smaller head size and still more maneuverable you could also try the ProKennex Laver SX.

sanitarium
06-04-2004, 02:37 PM
tweener racquets and 5.0 dont belong in the same sentence.

tetsuo10
06-04-2004, 04:15 PM
So Roddick uses the PD. Does that mean the PD isn't a tweener racquet, or does that mean Roddick isn' t > 5.0? :lol:

Yeah, if your 4.5-5.0, I don't think you should use a tweener racquet, particularly if you've had shoulder problems. Diablo MP has been good to my arm. I tried the More Attack, which is supposedly a tweener, and it started to give me shoulder problems.

Leslie Kwong
06-04-2004, 05:20 PM
The Volkl Classsic V1 10th anniversary edition may be good but it weight 10.6oz when strung BUT if you are good in tennis with a large swing, you need to string it up to 62 to 64 top tension. It is very good for the arm.(P.S.) I am a medical doctor and I have just advise my tennis partner to buy one he like it because he had tennis elbow.......I had one from my son 8 years ago and I also bopught on from tennis warehouse last months.......
However, I sold my V1 Classic to my patner because my skill had imprive and the racket is too powerful for me now.
I have used the latest Volkl Catapul V10 V engine which according to the Australian experience ,it the V1 Classic for intemediate! It weight 11.10z unstring and is 1.1" head light.
Please read my recent posting on the tennis warehouse which I put up last week!
The only problems is it is not avaialble in USA at this momnet....why? please read TW posting a few weeks ago by a player in Australia...

I have now Changed from Yonex VCon 17 100" to the arm friendly Volkl Cat V10 V engine ......excellent control and so good to the arm....please read T.W. posting I put up tjis weks on Re-incarnation of V1 Classic.

The Price racket is not very aRM FRIENDLY AS the Volkl..

Gaines Hillix
06-04-2004, 06:39 PM
I'd suggest demoing a PK Laver Type S or SX(the later if you want to try a little extra length). A PK 7G also plays nice and is very good for anyone with a history of arm problems.

Morpheus
06-04-2004, 06:53 PM
I'm assuming you are looking for a more powerful "players" frame. The NXG is stiff in the hoop and IMO a harsh racket. The PK is on the stiff side, but a nice racket.

If you are having shoulder problems, you want to play it safe and go with a 27" racket, since anything longer can really torque your arm. Stay under 65 on flex. There are some nice frames in the 11 to 11.5 oz range that you can customize with lead. Try stringing on the low end of the spec to gain more power.

Some suggestions:

Babolat Pure Control Team Midplus 2002
Head size: 100 sq. in. / 645 sq. cm. Balance: 5pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 318
Weight: 11.6oz / 329g Stiffness: 65 (0-100)
Power Level: Low-Medium Construction: 21.5 Straight Beam
Swing Speed: Moderate-Fast String Pattern: 16 Mains / 20 Crosses
Composition: Graphite / Kevlar

Dunlop 300G
Head size: 98 sq. in. / 632 sq. cm. Balance: 4pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 300
Weight: 10.8oz / 306g Stiffness: 64 (0-100)

Head Intelligence i. Radical Oversize
Head size: 107 sq. in. / 690 sq. cm. Balance: 4pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 302
Weight: 11oz / 312g Stiffness: 62 (0-100)

Head Liquidmetal Instinct
Head size: 100 sq. in. / 645 sq. cm. Balance: 4pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 329
Weight: 11.2oz / 318g Stiffness: 63 (0-100)

Head Liquidmetal Radical MP
Head size: 98 sq. in. / 632 sq. cm. Balance: 4pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 325
Weight: 11.2oz / 318g Stiffness: 64 (0-100)

Head Liquidmetal Radical OS
Head size: 107 sq. in. / 690 sq. cm. Balance: 3pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 330
Weight: 11.2oz / 318g Stiffness: 58 (0-100)

Pro Kennex Kinetic Pro 5g MP 2001
Head size: 100 sq. in. / 645 sq. cm. Balance: 8pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 318
Weight: 11.7oz / 332g Stiffness: 65 (0-100)
Power Level: Low-Medium Construction: 22mm Straight Beam

Volkl Catapult 10
Head size: 98 sq. in. / 632 sq. cm. Balance: 5pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 312
Weight: 11.4oz / 323g Stiffness: 59 (0-100)
Power Level: Low Construction: 26.5 mm Head/23 mm Shaft
Swing Speed: Fast String Pattern: 16 Mains / 19 Crosses
Composition: Titanium/Graphite

Volkl Catapult V-1 Midplus
Head size: 102 sq. in. / 658 sq. cm. Balance: 4pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 307
Weight: 10.8oz / 306g Stiffness: 64 (0-100)

Volkl Quantum V-1 Midplus
Head size: 102 sq. in. / 658 sq. cm. Balance: 1pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 308
Weight: 10.6oz / 301g Stiffness: 65 (0-100)

Volkl Tour 10 Midplus
Head size: 98 sq. in. / 632 sq. cm. Balance: 5pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 328
Weight: 11.7oz / 332g Stiffness: 62 (0-100)

Volkl Tour 7
Head size: 107 sq. in. / 690 sq. cm. Balance: 5pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 305
Weight: 11.1oz / 315g Stiffness: 63 (0-100)
Power Level: Low-Medium Construction: 22 mm Straight Beam
Swing Speed: Moderate-Fast String Pattern: 16 Mains / 19 Crosses
Composition: Titanium /Graphite / Kevlar / Fiberglass


Volkl Tour 9 V-Engine
Head size: 98 sq. in. / 632 sq. cm. Balance: 6pts Head Light
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Swingweight: 306
Weight: 11.4oz / 323g Stiffness: 63 (0-100)
Power Level: Low Construction: 22 mm Straight Beam
Swing Speed: Fast String Pattern: 18 Mains / 20 Crosses
Composition: Titanium /Graphite

bounce-hit
06-04-2004, 08:01 PM
Babolat Pure Control Zylon Plus. Demo it. A great control racquet, excellent on all shots, mobile, comfortable, power on demand.

kreative
06-04-2004, 09:32 PM
volkl cat v1, or v1 classic, babolat pure drive, babolat pure control.

Fish wang
06-05-2004, 10:16 PM
So Roddick uses the PD. Does that mean the PD isn't a tweener racquet, or does that mean Roddick isn' t > 5.0? :lol:

Yeah, if your 4.5-5.0, I don't think you should use a tweener racquet, particularly if you've had shoulder problems. Diablo MP has been good to my arm. I tried the More Attack, which is supposedly a tweener, and it started to give me shoulder problems.

Judging from the sound that roddick's racket make when hitting ball, his racket is rather heavy, if not much heavier than commercial PD. So in short, roddick's PD is not your PD.

Robert Jones
06-07-2004, 12:09 PM
I have a Prince Diablo MP that is not my cup of tea but if you demo one and like it I have it for sale.

Its great on serves, lots of pop. Great on volleys and very manuverable. Very easy on the arm too.

I may keep it for doubles use. I can't seem to control its power, too many deep balls. But I think I am in the minority as many say the power is low.

kreative
06-07-2004, 12:32 PM
So Roddick uses the PD. Does that mean the PD isn't a tweener racquet, or does that mean Roddick isn' t > 5.0? :lol:

Yeah, if your 4.5-5.0, I don't think you should use a tweener racquet, particularly if you've had shoulder problems. Diablo MP has been good to my arm. I tried the More Attack, which is supposedly a tweener, and it started to give me shoulder problems.

Judging from the sound that roddick's racket make when hitting ball, his racket is rather heavy, if not much heavier than commercial PD. So in short, roddick's PD is not your PD.

fish, would that make the ps6.0 85"/st. vincent original pro staff a tweener too? b/c judging by the amount of lead sampras added to his ps 6.0, it's much heavier than the commercial ps 6.0 85"/st vincent pro staff. So in short, your point is that everyone (recreational players) plays w/ tweeners, correct?

atatu
06-07-2004, 12:32 PM
300 g

Morpheus
06-07-2004, 04:31 PM
I believe he is looking for a more powerful player's racket. It is inconsequential whether you call that a tweener or frog.

AndyC
06-09-2004, 07:18 AM
I find the LM Instinct very easy on my arm and I've made it slightly heavier and more headlight by adding some lead tape to the handle.

A friend uses the Volkl Cat 10 and this is even easier on the arm (I've used it one afternoon) though it's quite a bit lighter than my modded Instinct. To be honest nothing some lead tape couldn't cure. I would suggest u try the both and see which u prefer. I found the Volkl had a little bit more power than my Instinct if it's any help.

@wright
06-09-2004, 07:46 AM
A 5.0 shouldn' play with a frog!

netman
06-10-2004, 08:51 AM
If arm and shoulder problems continue you might try the Pro Kennex 5G. Very easy on the arm and great all around frame. They also have a heavier version called the 5g PSE.

Another frame easy on the shoulder and arm is the Slaz Pro Braided Henman. It has a foam injected into the frame. Its stiffer than the 5g, but doesn't bother my surgically repaired shoulder. The Slaz has a fairly small sweetspot and requires good strokes to get the most out of it, which would fit your requirements. Many knowledgable posters here have said its a slightly improved, lighter version of the Wilson Pro Staff 6.1 Classic.

Pushmaster
06-10-2004, 04:21 PM
The Ti. Radical MP is still the best "tweener" racquet I've played with. I don't consider a 11 1/2+ oz stick a tweener.

rooski
06-10-2004, 05:19 PM
The Ti. Radical MP is still the best "tweener" racquet I've played with. I don't consider a 11 1/2+ oz stick a tweener.

I love all the loose classifications being bantered about. One mans tweener is another man's "light players racket".

FWIW.... :wink: I think the Ti Rad MP (which I still love) is a light players racket with very little power.

IMO...a tweener is more about power level (med.) followed by weight (sub 11oz)...but thats just me. :lol:

Shane Reynolds
06-11-2004, 03:25 PM
I would recommend either the LM Instinct or the Pro Impact FT.

ma2t
06-11-2004, 05:58 PM
I am looking for suggestions for a midsize tweener racquet that is headlight and not too stiff. I have also had some shoulder problems (tendonitis) that aren't too severe but occassionally crop up. I need to demo some racquets before deciding but need to know where to start. I have been using a Price Precision 770 for years and would like something more manueverable. Thanks for your input.

Try the PK 7G.

dbernie41
06-13-2004, 08:31 AM
Wilson 5.1 Surge