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netman
01-26-2006, 11:27 AM
Look at the O3 White and O3 Shark Hybrid MP specs side by side. Can someone explain why both exist? The differences could just be mfg. variances.

Maybe Maria insists on having her own signature frame (Shark). Guess the O3 White is just too plain vanilla for her to endorse. :)

-k-

devilish_duke
01-26-2006, 12:58 PM
Maybe it's a way of modifying shark frames and selling them for higher prices?

stevewcosta
01-26-2006, 01:21 PM
Yeah, they should concentrate on making a few better frames rather than flooding the market with all kinds of senseless/redundant versions. Ridiculous.

fishuuuuu
01-26-2006, 01:23 PM
Yeah, they should concentrate on making a few better frames rather than flooding the market with all kinds of senseless/redundant versions. Ridiculous.

You know ... despite what you think (what they don't care about by the way), their chief concern is concentrating on making money. And I think they're much better than you at that.

ollinger
01-26-2006, 02:35 PM
Not necessarily. Producing too many models that are too similar to each other can be bad business. This is why General Motors eliminated Oldsmobile, whose products could barely be differentiated from the Pontiac and Buick divisions of GM. Creates high inventory costs. Usually better business to have clearer differentiation of your own products.
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Alexandros
01-26-2006, 03:24 PM
Uh, they don't look too similar to me:

O3 White
Power Level: 1000
Length:: 27.0
Headsize:: 100 sq in
Flex:: Firm
Cross Section:: 23-25-22mm
Weight:: 10.6oz / 300g
Balance:: 12.6in / 32.0cm
Swing Weight:: 290

Shark Hybrid
Power Level: 1025
Length:: 27.5
Headsize:: 110 sq in
Flex:: Firm
Cross Section:: 24-28-24mm
Weight:: 9.8oz / 277g
Balance:: 13.2in / 33.5cm
Swing Weight:: 285

The differences in length, headsize, cross section, weight and balance, not to mention the interaction of the O Ports are enough to make the rackets feel entirely different to one another in play.

netman
01-26-2006, 05:16 PM
Uh, they don't look too similar to me:

O3 White
Power Level: 1000
Length:: 27.0
Headsize:: 100 sq in
Flex:: Firm
Cross Section:: 23-25-22mm
Weight:: 10.6oz / 300g
Balance:: 12.6in / 32.0cm
Swing Weight:: 290

Shark Hybrid
Power Level: 1025
Length:: 27.5
Headsize:: 110 sq in
Flex:: Firm
Cross Section:: 24-28-24mm
Weight:: 9.8oz / 277g
Balance:: 13.2in / 33.5cm
Swing Weight:: 285

The differences in length, headsize, cross section, weight and balance, not to mention the interaction of the O Ports are enough to make the rackets feel entirely different to one another in play.

Wrong Shark Hybrid. We are talking about the MP, not the OS.

-k-

Keifers
01-26-2006, 05:17 PM
Wasn't Maria playing with the O3 White at the AO?

Looked like it...

vinnier6
01-26-2006, 05:47 PM
Wasn't Maria playing with the O3 White at the AO?

Looked like it...if you look closer at the racquet you will see some pink on it...its not the white, and it wont be anything else for that matter...

Donnie Darko
01-26-2006, 05:56 PM
According to Prince, she's playing with the O3 White.

http://www.princetennis.com/news_events/press/press_release.asp?DocumentID=526

meh
01-26-2006, 06:24 PM
if you look closer at the racquet you will see some pink on it...its not the white, and it wont be anything else for that matter...
O3 White, the pink strip at top is for the breast cancer awareness campaign that Prince launched a while ago (pink PSGD & Lightning XX strings, O3 Pink). Looking at pics/matches, definitely an O3 White [mold].

meh
01-26-2006, 06:28 PM
Back on OT, Hornet & Shark are a bit redundant, but there is a .5 oz weight differential, and Hornet is a good deal stiffer...maybe Hornet is the PD clone, Shark is for players who prefer tweeners w/out stiff flex (not too many of those out there). But then consider that the O3 Red is pretty much in the same cat, and then there's a bit confusion (certainly for an uninformed buyer).

PM_
01-26-2006, 06:43 PM
If Prince wants to pick up the tab for the extra paint, marketing, packaging, so let 'em...

Deuce
01-27-2006, 01:01 AM
There's a lot more to racquets than swingweight, weight, balance, head size, length, RDC flex... there is also ingredients, or materials.

Two racquets can have identical 'specs' in the abovementioned categories, but will feel very different, due to each racquet having different materials an/or different percentages and placements of the materials within the racquet.

netman
01-27-2006, 06:28 PM
Deuce,

Normally I would agree with you, but even the stroke characteristics are the same. Unless Prince did some way different material layup, I find it hard to believe these two frames vary much in play.

-k-

Deuce
01-27-2006, 11:02 PM
Only one way to find out for sure...

netman
01-29-2006, 05:15 PM
Comparative demo time......