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ATXtennisaddict
01-30-2006, 08:47 AM
Everything I read, ppl mention, 'oh she must like Baghdatis because of this money'.

Look at Baghdatis, the guy's pretty good looking (when he shaves) but besides that, look at how fun-loving he is. He's not a gloomy serious-faced tennis player. He loves to have fun. And I'm sure she's drawn to that. Especially since they are young-uns, they love fun times. Marcos always has a huge smile when taking pics with her, they both seem happy to be with each other.

Grimjack
01-30-2006, 08:54 AM
Because she's a woman. Evolution has programmed females to desire those who are the most capable providers. This is nothing against them -- it's simple biological fact; they have no active choice in the matter. In this world, $$$ = ability to provide.

Just like a man will always take the "healthiest" looking (read: hottest) woman.

Those who claim otherwise are exhibiting what evolutionary biologists call "alternate survival strategies." They were unable to get the guy with the cash, or the hot chick, and thus settled for something else. Often, they even manage to convince themselves that they had a choice in the matter.

Fun stuff, biology.

Andres
01-30-2006, 09:05 AM
I believe he looks pretty good looking in his ATP profile ;)
Total oppositn of what he looks on court....

http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playernumber=B837

(Ohhh... the makeup)

Grigollif1
01-30-2006, 09:48 AM
I'm a straight guy and I can't tell you that Marcos Baghdatis is Not bad Looking. In the court looking sweating bullets with a huge bear and a head band most of us would not look so good...

ATXtennisaddict
01-30-2006, 10:56 AM
Because she's a woman. Evolution has programmed females to desire those who are the most capable providers. This is nothing against them -- it's simple biological fact; they have no active choice in the matter. In this world, $$$ = ability to provide.

Just like a man will always take the "healthiest" looking (read: hottest) woman.

Those who claim otherwise are exhibiting what evolutionary biologists call "alternate survival strategies." They were unable to get the guy with the cash, or the hot chick, and thus settled for something else. Often, they even manage to convince themselves that they had a choice in the matter.

Fun stuff, biology.

I understand that but I'm just saying that Marcos seems to have a magnetic personality or something. He shows it on court, not sure off.

legolas
01-30-2006, 11:39 AM
thats cuz yall dont know ehr, i dont even know why marcos is dating her, girl is a ****, thats what i heard from my friends in france, they said she gets paid to do bukkake porn, eeew

croatian sensation
01-30-2006, 12:23 PM
I'm a straight guy and I can't tell you that Marcos Baghdatis is Not bad Looking. In the court looking sweating bullets with a huge bear and a head band most of us would not look so good...

I'm a straight woman and I can tell you he is :D Anyway, as Safin or Blake look beter than him when sweating on court :-) I'm also sure he looks better when he shaves, he's just not my type...reminds me of a hamster too much. But we all have different preferences.
I also tend to believe it's the fame and fortune why she is with him, but on the other hand look at Heidi Klum and Seal. I don't think Heidi needs his fame and/or money.
Either way, we'll never know what are their reasons to be together are (is it love or something else..and I'm not being sarcastic now) so we can just let it go.

Andres
01-30-2006, 12:23 PM
C'mon... you can't be serious...
He hasn't made that much money yet!!
How long have those two been together??

Shabazza
01-30-2006, 12:40 PM
thats cuz yall dont know ehr, i dont even know why marcos is dating her, girl is a ****, thats what i heard from my friends in france, they said she gets paid to do bukkake porn, eeew
yeah right :roll:

She was dating Baghdatis before he became huge and famous, it's the first time he earned much prize money. He seems to be a nice and funny guy with charisma, I can see why she's with him. Money was not the main reason, it's just a bonus which came recently - good for them! ::D

Ripper
01-30-2006, 12:59 PM
"Why does everyone think Camille Neviere (sp?) likes $$ only"

Ok, picture this. Camille and Marcos don't know each other. Marcos is not a pro tennis player. Instead, he's mopping the floor at some mall (not that there's anything wrong with that) where Camille happens to be shopping. So, he goes up to her and throws a line at her. What would her reaction be?

a) Total ignoration.
b) Give him her number.

Andres
01-30-2006, 01:01 PM
I think there may be like 200 males in Cyprus ;)
Maybe giving him her number isn't such a bad idea.. :p

(just kidding, by the way... )

Shabazza
01-30-2006, 01:05 PM
I think there may be like 200 males in Cyprus ;)
Maybe giving him her number isn't such a bad idea.. :p

(just kidding, by the way... )
you don't even know she's living in Paris (like Baghdatis) :rolleyes: more than enough guys out there to flirt with...

croatian sensation
01-30-2006, 01:46 PM
C'mon... you can't be serious...
He hasn't made that much money yet!!
How long have those two been together??

Hmmm..and how many tennis players have met their wives/gf's after they became big? Timing is everything. You've got to recoginze the potential.;)

Andres
01-30-2006, 01:48 PM
I don't know. We should ask Coria about it :p

croatian sensation
01-30-2006, 01:50 PM
I don't know. We should ask Coria about it :p

That's what I'm talking about...he got married at what...21? And Ljubicic met his wife like 12 yrs ago.

norcal
01-30-2006, 01:56 PM
I don't know. We should ask Coria about it :p
No doubt Coria cashed his stock in when it was highest. Hey Andres - how come there aren't more photos of Carla on the internets? I imagine she is widely photographed in Argentina but a Google doesn't result in much.

Andres
01-30-2006, 01:58 PM
Yeah, I noticed that myself a while ago...
Can't really tell the reason :p

pound cat
01-30-2006, 02:00 PM
Because she's a woman. Evolution has programmed females to desire those who are the most capable providers. This is nothing against them -- it's simple biological fact; they have no active choice in the matter. In this world, $$$ = ability to provide.

Just like a man will always take the "healthiest" looking (read: hottest) woman.

Those who claim otherwise are exhibiting what evolutionary biologists call "alternate survival strategies." They were unable to get the guy with the cash, or the hot chick, and thus settled for something else. Often, they even manage to convince themselves that they had a choice in the matter.

Fun stuff, biology.

Evoluitonary facts 101:


Men are programmed to choose women who will be the best child-bearers, wide hips being a prime consideration, and this does not seem to be a problem these days. Selecting beautiful women is a thumping on the chest to other men. "I've got more desirable goods than you do. ie power &/or $$

And women are programmed to select men who are big and strong..the old "he's a great hunter" thing. Power and money have replaced skill with clubs.

35ft6
01-30-2006, 03:19 PM
Because she's a woman. Evolution has programmed females to desire those who are the most capable providers. This is nothing against them -- it's simple biological fact; they have no active choice in the matter. In this world, $$$ = ability to provide.

Just like a man will always take the "healthiest" looking (read: hottest) woman.

Those who claim otherwise are exhibiting what evolutionary biologists call "alternate survival strategies." They were unable to get the guy with the cash, or the hot chick, and thus settled for something else. Often, they even manage to convince themselves that they had a choice in the matter.

Fun stuff, biology. Truer words were never spoken on TW. But I've noticed that girls that age, in their teens, don't care about money as much as girls in their 20's and certainly not as much as women in their 30's. But evolutionary theory is still in play as girls that age will still go for the guys who "stand out." The surfer, or athlete, or skateboarder, or guitar player, or he's witty, or good dancer. Money hasn't been around for most of human history, so guys who are good at something in a way that commands respect and attention are attractive to girls for the same reasons as guys with money are -- in the old days these were the types of guys who could help you survive better.

edit: a recent article said that the modern woman prizes the ability to make her laugh above all else, whereas guys want a woman who's hot. Big surprise.

vllockhart
01-30-2006, 03:25 PM
The girlfriends/wives of pro athletes may or may not be in it for the money, but if you stood the majority of them next to each other, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart. If I see one more blonde bimbo looking chick on the arms of these guys I'm gonna puke. I won't even delve into the Black athletes with them on their arms. Very disheartening for Black women.

156MPHserve
01-30-2006, 04:48 PM
I don't know... he's a decent looking man... but without the money and recongizing he could be the next "Agassi" or another international tennis figure, I doubt she would be as interested in him.

FalconX
01-30-2006, 05:22 PM
I'm a straight guy and I can't tell you that Marcos Baghdatis is Not bad Looking.

Let me translate the triple negative.


I'm a gay guy and I can tell you that Marcos Baghdatis is good Looking.

Just kidding.

fantenam08
01-30-2006, 06:21 PM
As I suspected, men are clueless to the complexity of what women find attractive. ;) For most men, attraction is mainly superficial, as long as a woman is attractive, she doesn't even have to be capable of holding a good conversation. For a woman, there are other factors, like personality, charisma, and charm that may be found attractive. How well a person treats you also factors in. Bags may not be the most gorgeous man in the bunch (though I do think he is attractive off court), but he exudes confidence, he has a sense of humor, he enjoys himself when he is out there, and he seems like he loves life. The guy just has a lot of charisma over all. In the end, that is what makes the difference.

When men see a beautiful woman with a less attractive man, they assume she is a golddigger, but forget that maybe what he offers her in terms of companionship is better than what "the hot" guy offers, because less attractive men are use to relying on more than just their looks. Men want to lay next to a trophy in bed at night, but women want companionship.

slice bh compliment
01-30-2006, 07:18 PM
fantenam08,
Superb post.....right up until the dubious part of that last sentence.
"Men want to lay next to a trophy in bed at night..."

Nope, too cold and pointy. We want companionship, too. And we want to make lots and lots of love with that companion;)(which might be what you meant?) haha:D .
It's all the better if she is wonderful and beautiful and attractive on as many levels as possible.

fantenam08
01-30-2006, 07:27 PM
fantenam08,
Superb post.....right up until the dubious part of that last sentence.
"Men want to lay next to a trophy in bed at night..."

Nope, too cold and pointy. We want companionship, too. And we want to make lots and lots of love with that companion;)(which might be what you meant?) haha:D .
It's all the better if she is wonderful and beautiful and attractive on as many levels as possible.

LOL. Fair enough.

bc-05
01-30-2006, 07:35 PM
oOOoOO baghdatis isnt big.. yeh right.. ok get this.. i know this girl that lives near my house.. she's in the australian under 17 national squad.. she gets to travel the world.. and her name is georgia.. okay if i ask all of u do u know who she is u'd probably say pfft i dont kno her.. ok she gets to travel the world for free and she gets paid too by her sponsors (prince) and prize money too.. eventhough its not much.. but would u go out with her (shes 16)? i mean u can travel around the world with her she's not bad looking and yeh shes a tennis player..? well shes only just a good player.. shes not even junior number 1.. marcos was junior number 1 and he does get into grandslams and he is a pro tennis player.. so as poor as he is he's probably richer than most ppl.. so for someone who says marcos isnt rich well.. here's reality for u he probably get 200k+/yr from sponsorships.. oOOoO lemme see what would u get for accountant? 30k/yr? well cammi for sure would choose an ugly tennis player with 200k/yr and world no.1 junior and gets free tickets to grandslams rather than a good looking bradpitt looking accountant who earns 30k sitting his *** off in the office 20 hrs a day counting other ppls money... thanks for letting me put my input

FalconX
01-30-2006, 07:40 PM
thanks for letting me put my input

You're welcome.

bc-05
01-30-2006, 08:02 PM
As I suspected, men are clueless to the complexity of what women find attractive. ;) For most men, attraction is mainly superficial, as long as a woman is attractive, she doesn't even have to be capable of holding a good conversation. For a woman, there are other factors, like personality, charisma, and charm that may be found attractive. How well a person treats you also factors in. Bags may not be the most gorgeous man in the bunch (though I do think he is attractive off court), but he exudes confidence, he has a sense of humor, he enjoys himself when he is out there, and he seems like he loves life. The guy just has a lot of charisma over all. In the end, that is what makes the difference.

When men see a beautiful woman with a less attractive man, they assume she is a golddigger, but forget that maybe what he offers her in terms of companionship is better than what "the hot" guy offers, because less attractive men are use to relying on more than just their looks. Men want to lay next to a trophy in bed at night, but women want companionship.


yehhh right.. u gotta be kidding me... explain trump and melania please.. klum and seal (watever the ****s name is).. very good personality those ppl are.. okay but i guess i dunno actually.. u maybe right.. girls these days aren't interested in looks anymore.. u see more and more better looking guys going out with an okay looking to not so attractive girls.. i mean i dunno.. but i even hear girls complain the same thing about guys.. "omg why do hot guys date ugly chix".. then when i asked my friend.. their response have always been... u don't date sl*ts u sleep with them, u date with good girls, u don't want to marry a *****, those chicks get fat after they get married anyway.... see girls are more interested wats in the guys pants.. i even asked my friend on msn who happened to be a real hotty...

bc-05
01-30-2006, 08:23 PM
HERES THE CONVO

jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
hey katieeeee can i ask u a question?
- • kt` . - says:
yess sure
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
did u see marcos baghdatis’ gf? how hot was she?
- • kt` . - says:
oMg yee I was drooling
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
i gotta question kt.. I mean ur a chick.. if u were cammi (marcos’ gf) wat would be ur reason to be sleeping with a guy like baghdatis?
- • kt` . - says:
mayb she likes his personality?
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
yeh but shes actually sleeping with him.. if she was so in love with him why can’t she wait to get married then sleep with him.. **** man chicks are so stupid these days
- • kt` . - says:
why wait till marriage when u can have fun now?
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
then how do u prove shes in love with him coz of his personality? can u be sure that one day they'll get married? since theyre in love so much? yehh right
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
so i could just say that im seeing this girl and **** her and its alright?
- • kt` . - says:
no not all relationship works out but wats wrong with having fun with the person she loves
- • kt` . - says:
as long as he’s good in bed and shes having fun then its k
- • kt` . - says:
and as long as it’s safe it’s k
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
if theyre so in love they would be married before start having sex. and I don’t see u being married
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
them*
- • kt` . - says:
**** up u can’t talk.. how many girls have u slept with until now?
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
ive only slept with ****s.. only the cammi kind.. coz that’s wat theyre created for.. to be screwed around with not to date.. plus for ur info I haven’t had sex in more than 2 months.. im over ****s..
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
ill tell ya something its much easier to find ****s to **** with than finding an actual decent chick.. so **** u and ur **** friend
- • kt` . - says:
yeah good luck babe, welcome to the 21st century girls don’t care about that **** anymore, as long as its safe, we want to have fun too unless u want to marry some fat biatches then goodluck finding ur virginated dream girl
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
**** u.. and u know wat I probably ****in will u *********
- • kt` . - says:
if ur definition of **** is having one night stands with a random person or having sex with a person other than their husband. the tough luck hunni. all girls are ****s
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
stfu ****
- • kt` . - says:
youre a loser, ur just angry coz u just couldn’t get good sex. u need a girl who could show u how its done? get over it big boy, theres no such thing as ****
jag_xk8@hotmail.com says:
**** u... ur the loser and ur no good either so shut up.. why don’t u just go get ****ed and catch some stds u *****

superman1
01-30-2006, 08:35 PM
Men are very superficial, this is true. If a woman is attractive, we will block out all negative aspects of her personality, of which there will be many. But I personally would never go beyond a bullsht relationship with someone like that. For marriage and all, we are no less complex than women in what we look for. A man can't live with a beautiful woman who annoys the hell out of him. Women are exactly the same; exactly the same amount of superficiality, but not when you're talking about a real relationship. Women for some reason never realize this about themselves until they get looked at by some brainless dude with wavy hair and a six pack.

fantenam08
01-30-2006, 09:28 PM
bc-05 your posts are somewhat incoherent, but I think I get the gist of what you are trying to say. I never said golddiggers don't exist, I am simply saying why is it that whenever men see a beautiful women with a not so attractive man they assume she is only after his money. I also didn't mean to imply women are incapable of superficialness, as all humans are. I only meant that women tend to be more acceptable of dating a partner who is unequally as attractive as themselves if she feels like he has more to offer her in terms of a relationship. Overall, women tend to "date down" attraction wise more so than men, because we will let looks "slide" a bit if we feel he has other worthy attributes.

I don't know Camille, but from reading her body language, she seems realllly into him. In fact, she appears to be more attached to him, than he is to her. Hope she doesn't get her heartbroken, guys in their 20s aren't often long term relationship material.

Now James Blakes gf, she's a different story. She doesn't seem that into him, at all. It looked like he forced her to come to the game. When a woman is into a man, even if she thinks his job and hobbies are boring, she will atleast try to make an effort to look interested.

bc-05
01-30-2006, 10:17 PM
bc-05 your posts are somewhat incoherent, but I think I get the gist of what you are trying to say. I never said golddiggers don't exist, I am simply saying why is it that whenever men see a beautiful women with a not so attractive man they assume she is only after his money. I also didn't mean to imply women are incapable of superficialness, as all humans are. I only meant that women tend to be more acceptable of dating a partner who is unequally as attractive as themselves if she feels like he has more to offer her in terms of a relationship. Overall, women tend to "date down" attraction wise more so than men, because we will let looks "slide" a bit if we feel he has other worthy attributes.

I don't know Camille, but from reading her body language, she seems realllly into him. In fact, she appears to be more attached to him, than he is to her. Hope she doesn't get her heartbroken, guys in their 20s aren't often long term relationship material.

Now James Blakes gf, she's a different story. She doesn't seem that into him, at all. It looked like he forced her to come to the game. When a woman is into a man, even if she thinks his job and hobbies are boring, she will atleast try to make an effort to look interested.


lol man ur right when i go back to reading my post im confused myself.. too much writing i tell ya.. nah wat im saying is that girls these days dont look at personality anymore and more men actually do..girls only look for (in order) (1) the size of the guys penis (2) the size of their money.. i mean if baghdatis was a real nice person.. pwoahh like very nice.. but then he does wat his religion teaches him to do.. and stick to believe in chastity.. would she still be with baghdatis? i doubt it come to think about it i would bet on it she probably wouldnt! in my second post i wrote these days men are more mature.. i mean u see more and more (wat girls would say) 'hot' guys date a not so attractive girl.. but then the 'single hot' guys have one night stands with 'hot' girls.. do u see the connections here? guys are only using these 'hot' chicks to give him pleasure.. and they would always say 'im seeing this girl' and girls always buys it and tell it to their friends about their experience in the 'bed' last night and how the guy liked her.. then get dumped the next day everyone calls her a sl*t and she cries.. and say oOOoO he said he loves me..

i mean i dunno y im ranting about this.. i should really face the fact that there are no 'perfect' girl.. its either theyre sl*ts or the loyal ones r either fat or 'Asian' or snobby.. so thats gonna be the last time im ranting about this subject.. until the time i can prove my theory is wrong im just gonna sit here and yeh enjoy life.. plus hell would be a better place after all.. all the hotties are going to hell..

fantenam08
01-30-2006, 10:35 PM
bc-05

Yes, there are some scandalous women out there; I've had the misfortune to work with a couple of them. But trust me, they come in all races, ethnicities, nationalities. Don't worry, that scank that broke your heart will get hers one day, they always do. Don't give up on finding the right one, but maybe you should try broadening your search scope. Where are you meeting these women?

Phil
01-30-2006, 11:03 PM
When men see a beautiful woman with a less attractive (OR, ahem, older) man, they assume she is a golddigger, but forget that maybe what he offers her in terms of companionship is better than what "the hot" guy offers, because less attractive men are use to relying on more than just their looks. Men want to lay next to a trophy in bed at night, but women want companionship.
Not sure what planet you woke up on or next to, but if you've ever lived in New York, it's all about the $$$$. That may sound offensive to women, especially those who aren't golddiggers (and certainly not "All" of them are), but it's the truth. And in Asia, the hot Korean or Japanese (or Eastern European) gals walking around arm-in-arm with the senior citizens? Well, he's a company president and she likes Bulgari watches and Louis Vuitton Bags...the more the better.

Men looking for blond single-digit IQ bimbos? Yeah, that's pretty shallow, if that's what you want to call it. Golddiggers looking for a sugar daddy...that's the female equivalent. Anyone who tries to put golddigging women on a higher plane than their superficial male counterparts is delusional.

bc-05
01-30-2006, 11:04 PM
fantenam where do u live? i know they all come in all races and ethnicity.. but man i live in australia... i mean i swear i know many amazing looking girls.. models too.. but theres something i dont get about them.. ok ill tell u another story that happened to me 2 weeks ago.. we were at my friends bday party.. and he was drunk so he was flirting with his ex.. and his gf went crying at me.. i was sitting there and she sat on my lap.. she was crying telling me how stupid his bf is and blah blah blah.. then the next thing she said is .. ohh i havent root in ages.. i feel like a root right now.. flirts with me thinking im stupid.. i told her u have a bf.. and she called me a frigget.. u know wat thats how stupid girls are these days... theyll do anything to get back with their bf, they ruin ppls friendship and ruins ppls bday..

back to the topic.. the ***** that broke up with me wasnt a *****.. she was actually good but too good for her own good.. snobby i should say..

Don't give up on finding the right one, but maybe you should try broadening your search scope. Where are you meeting these women?
well theyre not really women i guess.. theyre girls 18-21 yrs old mostly.. i know em from well we meet em at parties and some come from friends cousins or yeh just some girls we know..

fantenam08
01-30-2006, 11:37 PM
Not sure what planet you woke up on or next to, but if you've ever lived in New York, it's all about the $$$$. That may sound offensive to women, especially those who aren't golddiggers (and certainly not "All" of them are), but it's the truth. And in Asia, the hot Korean or Japanese (or Eastern European) gals walking around arm-in-arm with the senior citizens? Well, he's a company president and she likes Bulgari watches and Louis Vuitton Bags...the more the better.

Men looking for blond single-digit IQ bimbos? Yeah, that's pretty shallow, if that's what you want to call it. Golddiggers looking for a sugar daddy...that's the female equivalent. Anyone who tries to put golddigging women on a higher plane than their superficial male counterparts is delusional.

By no stretch of the imagination does my post say anything about goldiggers being more moral than superficial men. I don't know what it is like in NY since I have never lived there, but don't you think you are painting with kind of a broad brush? What you said is the equivalent of me saying all men are dogs, and cheaters (which they may be). When you set yourself up with certain expectations, you tend to get them.

I'm sorry if you are attracting golddigging bimbo's, can't help but wonder what you are doing wrong. Personally, I don't need a man to take care of me, I already have a father. :rolleyes: The preconceived notion that all women are money grubbing *****s is what keeps the good ones away. When ever I meet a man that is constantly flashing me his wealth I just roll my eyes, because anything he can buy me I can buy myself. The problem is, some men approach a woman assuming they already know what she wants. If she is of bad character, sure, she will play along until she acquires enough assets. But if she has a good deal of self pride, she will send him about his way until a real man comes along.

fantenam08
01-30-2006, 11:45 PM
well theyre not really women i guess.. theyre girls 18-21 yrs old mostly

Well that's your first problem then. LOL. Enjoy the 20s for what they are, don't expect to much in terms of relationships. However, if you really desire sophistication in a relationship, perhaps you should look for women in the 25+ crowd. I'm sure she won't mind you're not a virgin. :D

I'm from the US, but people are similar everywhere in my opinion.

meh
01-31-2006, 12:23 AM
Off topic, but Baghdatis (in his ATP profile pic) looks a lot like Scott Stapp, the [former] Creed frontman

Phil
01-31-2006, 01:34 AM
By no stretch of the imagination does my post say anything about goldiggers being more moral than superficial men. I don't know what it is like in NY since I have never lived there, but don't you think you are painting with kind of a broad brush? What you said is the equivalent of me saying all men are dogs, and cheaters (which they may be). When you set yourself up with certain expectations, you tend to get them.

I'm sorry if you are attracting golddigging bimbo's, can't help but wonder what you are doing wrong. Personally, I don't need a man to take care of me, I already have a father. :rolleyes: The preconceived notion that all women are money grubbing *****s is what keeps the good ones away. When ever I meet a man that is constantly flashing me his wealth I just roll my eyes, because anything he can buy me I can buy myself. The problem is, some men approach a woman assuming they already know what she wants. If she is of bad character, sure, she will play along until she acquires enough assets. But if she has a good deal of self pride, she will send him about his way until a real man comes along.

Woof, Woof...of course not all women are golddiggers, as I said in my previous post. NYC, for many obvious reasons, has the largest share of them in the USA. It's nice that YOU aren't looking for a daddy, but the prevailing trend in NYC is for women, especially those over 30, to go after the gold-it's a cynical and nasty strategy, possibly a result of the vicious circle of relationships based on "love" gone bad. But maybe not...

You're implying that wealth-flashing men looking for trophies came before the golddiggers-I'm not sure. What I do know is you don't have to flash wealth in NYC to have a GD lapping at your heels, so to speak. What am I doing wrong? Nothing that I know of-regardless of who you are, you're gonna get the "Question" in NYC..."Do you have a good job", or something similar. As soon as I hear that-and again, I don't hear it ALWAYS-I let out a silent groan and move on. Even when I was younger, and would chase after any woman who was breathing, I steered clear of these types. It was funny that after 9/11 I read an article that described how firemen all of the sudden became attractive to working women-Fireman are brave, straightforward, manly-man types, and there was the sympathy factor...so these fairly sophisticated women were going after working class Joes for a quality other than their cash. The article said that once these women realize that these guys are relatively narrowminded, unsophisticated and don't have a lot of cash, they'll go back to chasing block-headed investment bankers. Know what? That's what happened.

There are lowlife men and there are lowlife women; but from MY perspective, I can only, mostly, speak of the female species, as I am a male.

Drop_Shot
01-31-2006, 01:55 AM
Phil , Just a question and yes it is none of my business but do you have a girlfriend . This might clarify a few things for me !


btw good luck to Marcos and his gf let fate take them where-ever they are intend to be in life. He seems to have a personality that would attract alot of people to him.Good , bad and the ugly.

= marios =
01-31-2006, 02:20 AM
Woof, Woof...of course not all women are golddiggers, as I said in my previous post. NYC, for many obvious reasons, has the largest share of them in the USA. It's nice that YOU aren't looking for a daddy, but the prevailing trend in NYC is for women, especially those over 30, to go after the gold-it's a cynical and nasty strategy, possibly a result of the vicious circle of relationships based on "love" gone bad. But maybe not...

You're implying that wealth-flashing men looking for trophies came before the golddiggers-I'm not sure. What I do know is you don't have to flash wealth in NYC to have a GD lapping at your heels, so to speak. What am I doing wrong? Nothing that I know of-regardless of who you are, you're gonna get the "Question" in NYC..."Do you have a good job", or something similar. As soon as I hear that-and again, I don't hear it ALWAYS-I let out a silent groan and move on. Even when I was younger, and would chase after any woman who was breathing, I steered clear of these types. It was funny that after 9/11 I read an article that described how firemen all of the sudden became attractive to working women-Fireman are brave, straightforward, manly-man types, and there was the sympathy factor...so these fairly sophisticated women were going after working class Joes for a quality other than their cash. The article said that once these women realize that these guys are relatively narrowminded, unsophisticated and don't have a lot of cash, they'll go back to chasing block-headed investment bankers. Know what? That's what happened.

There are lowlife men and there are lowlife women; but from MY perspective, I can only, mostly, speak of the female species, as I am a male.

Kanye West said it best...;)

bc-05
01-31-2006, 05:00 AM
Well that's your first problem then. LOL. Enjoy the 20s for what they are, don't expect to much in terms of relationships. However, if you really desire sophistication in a relationship, perhaps you should look for women in the 25+ crowd. I'm sure she won't mind you're not a virgin. :D

I'm from the US, but people are similar everywhere in my opinion.

im 19.. as if im gonna date a 30 yr old woman.. lol anywho.. fantenam08 i just realized that ur a girl.. sorry if i sound offensive.. but just to answer u.. dont these 25+ yr old woman have to go through 18 first before they become 25? or they become so much more mature at that age (25?)

xanctus
01-31-2006, 09:19 AM
I thought Camellie is making good $$$ also knowing she's a model at this age. NO??

fantenam08
01-31-2006, 09:32 AM
^^^^^
bc-05, I figured you weren't having any luck with girls 18-21 so maybe you would have better luck with an older woman. Haha. Older woman/younger man relationships seem to work good for our celebrities here anyway. I'm not 25 yet, but I am getting close. Seems like after you turn 21 the years just fly by. There are some mature 18-21 yr olds, heck I had friends from high school looking to settle down and get married at 17, and some of them did. For most of us though, those years are inconsistent, trying to figure out what you want, who you are, leaving the teens, entering adulthood. So just relax and enjoy the scenery, eventually you will connect with the right person, when you aren't looking as it it always seems to go. Now we've got to stop hijacking this thread and let it get back on track. lol.

Yes Camille is a model, and after her Australian Open she should be saturated with offers for gigs I would think.

bc-05
01-31-2006, 10:54 AM
^^^^^
bc-05, I figured you weren't having any luck with girls 18-21 so maybe you would have better luck with an older woman. Haha. Older woman/younger man relationships seem to work good for our celebrities here anyway. I'm not 25 yet, but I am getting close. Seems like after you turn 21 the years just fly by. There are some mature 18-21 yr olds, heck I had friends from high school looking to settle down and get married at 17, and some of them did. For most of us though, those years are inconsistent, trying to figure out what you want, who you are, leaving the teens, entering adulthood. So just relax and enjoy the scenery, eventually you will connect with the right person, when you aren't looking as it it always seems to go. Now we've got to stop hijacking this thread and let it get back on track. lol.

Yes Camille is a model, and after her Australian Open she should be saturated with offers for gigs I would think.


lol true we kick arse!! and yeh thats really wat im doing right now.. go with the flow.. and stuff like that!

Shabazza
01-31-2006, 11:04 AM
lol true we kick arse!! and yeh thats really wat im doing right now.. go with the flow.. and stuff like that!
enjoy it as long as you can, time flies by really fast ;)

35ft6
01-31-2006, 01:47 PM
I actually have no problem with gold-diggers. I have friends in their early and mid 30's in LA, and they flat out tell me they wouldn't date any woman older than 27. Ideally, she would be between 22 and 26. First off, these guys aren't really good with women. Very hit or miss. Not like my high school friends who were actually good at making girls like them. Two, my ex-gf once said something that actually turned out to be incredibly insightful: if a man isn't married by 30, there's probably something wrong with him. He's probably too stubborn by then to be able to pull off a healthy relationship. And maybe it's just that the people I hang out with are shallow Hollywood types, but she's nailed these suckers.

In light of the fact that there are so many guys out there like this, in my experience, I can hardly blame girls for trying to get as much as they can while they can, meaning before they turn 30 or so. Because a lot of the most eligible males their age at that point are more into dating young chicks. It's like guys want girls to just be "cool" and put out, and don't pressure them into marriage, and give them plenty of space, and then be cool about it when they get dumped, and, oh yeah, don't be a gold digger. What do the women get out of all this?

And another thing, the fact that a man has money and power and is smart, those are all very attractive qualities. So in a way it can be said that the woman likes a guy for his money, that might not be entirely untrue, but the thing that a lot of people overlook is that even if it's for his money, she genuinely DOES like him. Her feelings are sincere. It's like accusing a guy of liking a girl only for her flawless tight skin, shapely legs, beautiful eyes, and heart-shaped lips. Likewise, maybe a guy really does only love a girl mostly because of the fact she's smoking hot, but that's not to say he doesn't genuinely like her.

Like a person for the "wrong" reasons? Maybe, but maybe they're YOUR wrong reasons and not mine or hers or his. Beauty is a form of currency, too. If you're good looking, it's like having money in that your beauty is persuasive just like money is. In a way, rich men and beautiful women are perfect for each other. It's what nature intended. And so on. Rant away, suckas!

Yours!05
01-31-2006, 01:50 PM
Now we've got to stop hijacking this thread and let it get back on track. lol.Why stop now?:p .

slice bh compliment
01-31-2006, 09:54 PM
.... Beauty is a form of currency.....Rant away, suckas!

Well put. And this includes beauty in the commercial sense. This means that the beautiful young girl the man has landed is perceived by others as 'hot', so to him, she becomes hot. She IS hot (even if she was not). So the two of them trade currency for a while, fulfilling some needs, and not even scratching the surface of other needs. To borrow a line from Fletch, they "give eachother twenty dollars".

Well, you asked for a rant. Don't know if this will qualify, but forgive the following. IT will have nothing to do with Marcos or Camille. It is not designed to solve or resolve a thing. It doesn't even have a point (maybe two or three, though, who knows?) Here goes.

So many elements that can be attractive:
beauty, health, money, influence, charisma, talent, confidence, wisdom and inner peace. Purity. Dignity. Honesty. Integrity. Faith. Spirit. Humility.

Then there's coolness, hotness, badness (subversive), danger, stranger and whatever is the opposite of inner peace (outer peace / inner conflict?).....err, complexity? The chase. The game.

Now, is it too cliche to say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder?
And beauty changes. Beauty grows incomprehensibly. It can fade so fast that it was never really there.

Plenty of people do not know what they actually like, or want, or need...or why. So they seek help.
Then they need help.
Professional help.

For what? To figure out love?

katarddx
01-31-2006, 10:11 PM
what money? how much has he made before AO? get real and grow up. how do you come up with this stuff? too bored?

K!ck5w3rvE
01-31-2006, 10:59 PM
Off topic, but Baghdatis (in his ATP profile pic) looks a lot like Scott Stapp, the [former] Creed frontman

You think? I don't see it, maybe I'm not finding good pictures tho...

Carley1986
02-01-2006, 01:02 AM
Don't cha wish your girlfriend was hot like me! Don't cha wish your girlfriend was a freak like me! Don't cha! come on baby Don't cha!!

Had to say it! :D

Noelle
02-01-2006, 01:19 AM
Do my eyes deceive me? Is it really Carley? :D Hi and welcome back.

Carley1986
02-01-2006, 01:21 AM
Ahha it is me. Thanks. How have you been?

Noelle
02-01-2006, 01:26 AM
:p I'm good but this isn't the thread to chitchat. It'z da gold-diggaz thread yo $$$$ ;)

Carley1986
02-01-2006, 01:28 AM
Haha yow wazzup holla for the dolla. Hmmz I have some problem with my computer in which I think i should post in the TW question. Maybe you can help me Noelle.

Noelle
02-01-2006, 01:32 AM
Post it in Odds & Ends and we'll see if people can help you about it. :)

Carley1986
02-01-2006, 01:34 AM
Woopth put it in the wrong place :O