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Rodeo
02-04-2006, 09:57 PM
Those of us who remember spring 1993 will recall not only the murderous stabbing images that reverberated out of Hamburg, Germany, on April 30th, but also the sheer daring aggression of Monica Seles’s unorthodox game that mesmerized so many of us for the preceding four years.

Whilst Martina Navratilova, Seles’s girlhood heroine who was still playing singles at the time, always had a classic attacking game, like those serve-and-volleyers who preceded her, Seles introduced a completely new dimension. She attacked from the back, the side, mid-court… anywhere and everywhere, except from the net.

Here was a giggly young girl who had the consistency, accuracy and guts of a Chris Evert or Maureen Connolly, but with far more provocative and flamboyant shock appeal. Both her drives were crisp enough to slice the crusts off the cucumber sandwiches served up for tea at Wimbledon.

During those early years, she made more inspirational impact on young players than anyone in tennis would have guessed, simply by her sheer tenacious presence on court. Today, in rather interesting era-overlapping, young players feel excited and privileged to compete in the same events as Seles.

"I remember meeting Monica initially in California when I was about 10 years old," says Serena Williams. "I was really excited about it. It was this meeting that helped me realize I definitely wanted to be a pro. I even started to imitate her grunting!"

Says Justine Henin-Hardenne, who lost her first four matches against Seles, but has won the last three. "I first saw her in the French final in 1992 when I was a schoolgirl. I was there with my parents as a result of winning a junior tennis prize in Belgium. Monica won 10-8 in the third set (against Steffi Graf). I remember it well. She is a legend to me, for sure. To come back after what happened in Germany is unbelievable. To my eyes, she is still the greatest fighter on the tour. I have a lot of respect for her."

"What happened in Germany" remains perhaps one of the most shocking moments in sports. Gunter Parche leaned over the waist-high center court railing at the Rothenbaum Tennis Club and stabbed Seles in the back with a nine-inch boning knife while she sat court-side during a changeover in her Citizen Cup quarterfinal match against Maggie Maleeva. The physical injury, mercifully, was not too severe. The emotional injury, however, kept Seles off the tour for two years.

Seles’s acknowledgment of how she was competing at her highest level when she was stabbed highlights the odd effect the incident has had on her career. It has literally divided her career in half, leaving one of the sport’s most dominant champions on one side and placing one of tennis’s most beloved competitors on the other.

"In the ’80s and ’90s when she was dominating women’s tennis," says good friend Mary Joe Fernandez, "she won eight out of nine Grand Slam (tournaments) in a row — easily! Actually, she lost very few games. So fans naturally cheered for the underdog, as they always do, which, of course, was not her. However when she returned to the tour in 1995, they started to cheer for her because she was the sympathetic favorite after what she had experienced. She was the underdog. Those two things together really made her the fans’ choice to root for."

"When I was starting, she was already No. 1 in the world," says Daniela Hantuchova. "She had just won so many Grand Slams. She can be so proud of what she has achieved in her tennis career.

In September 1998, Seles said that she very much admired the way Chris Evert continued to play until she was 34. Seles went on to admit that she would like to do the same, saying that she was willing to pay the price. She has always been a hard worker.

"We worked an eight- to 10-hour day from the beginning," says Nick Bollettieri, who had the foresight to invite Seles to train at his academy when she was still just a twig of a girl. "But it didn’t matter to her which day. It could be Monday, Saturday or Sunday — even Christmas Day. Heck, it was all the same to Monica. She had absolutely no idea how long she was out on court. She just wanted to be out working on her game."

"Grunting"

This was good and bad for Seles. It was good because Seles did not hold her breath. On the other hand, as her dominance escalated, jealousy and envy were not far behind. Some in tennis decided to take exception to her grunting. The All England Club (i.e., Wimbledon), unfortunately, was one.

Seles was the odds-on favorite to win Wimbledon in 1992 and, as such, the No. 1 seed. Her only real rival was, of course, Steffi Graf, whom she had just beaten in the French Open final, the match Henin-Hardenne remembers so well. Nathalie Tauziat, in the quarterfinals, and Martina Navratilova, in the semifinals had complained about Seles’s grunting, citing it as a breach of Rule 21:
If a player commits an act which hinders his/her opponent in making a stroke, then if this is deliberate, he/she shall lose the point.

Seles’s exhaling was hardly deliberate, yet Referee Alan Mills was persuaded by the Committee of Management to caution her and introduce a "gruntometer" for the final against Graf. The idea was that if Seles’s grunts went above a certain decibel, she would forfeit the point. Wimbledon’s arrogance and flawed logic has been well-documented and, certainly, belongs to a bygone age. But the Seles family was understandably stunned.

Simply, it was a cruel ploy to bring Seles down, reminiscent of biblical times and strong-man Samson being tricked into having his hair cut to see if that would sap his unusual strength. Both, unfortunately, had the desired effect.

Seles lost tamely to Graf, 6-2, 6-1, and was unrecognizable as the same player.

"I let it get to me, and I decided not to grunt," Seles says now. "[It] definitely wasn’t the right approach in the final at Wimbledon. If I get an opportunity again, I would probably do it differently. I would probably keep grunting.

But to have a chance at Wimbledon right now is the least chance I would give myself from all the Grand Slams."

There is sadness in that statement, considering what might have been. Seles’s father, Karolj, who insisted on being her sole advisor, should have persuaded Monica to call Wimbledon’s bluff and ignore their threats. No way would Wimbledon have had the nerve to disqualify their colorful, charismatic and much-publicized star. It would have made Wimbledon look more of a farce than it already was.

Everyone was anxious to see Seles play Graf, particularly bearing in mind that Seles had mysteriously skipped the previous Wimbledon amid false rumors of a quickie marriage, elopement and, even, pregnancy. With or without her grunts, the public simply wanted to witness her superb style of play.

With the insane stabbing nine months after the 1992 Wimbledon farce, it is actually fitting that Seles not only bounced back, but came back within two years as the most popular player on the WTA Tour.

"Monica Seles is obviously a name that is well recognized by all our fans, sponsors and broadcasters," Buchholz says. "So when Monica plays, she adds a stamp of credibility to the event."

Says Fernandez, who selected Seles to be a bridesmaid in her wedding, "We all came to realize that she is really a class act both on and off the court. She has this huge heart and is far more approachable today than she was in her teens. In fact, I believe that she alone has touched more people than any other player."

Indeed, Seles maintains a certain approachability even with fans. One would understand if she were more leery, particularly since she questions whether current tour security measures are sufficient. "You’re totally accessible (to fans),” she says. "There’s no other sport that you’re as accessible as in tennis." But she does not complain. Quite often, she is not even recognized. Or she is held in such high regard that fans respectfully give her space.

"Certainly tennis was changed forever simply by her presence," Buchholz says. "I think it’s very hard for something like [the stabbing] to happen nowadays. For example, when the top-ranked players walk to the outside courts from the locker rooms, they are escorted by several security guards also at the hotels, all of which we, the tournament, pay for. Everything is our responsibility while they are with us."

Seles indicates she has not given much thought to how she might retire, when that day comes.

:D

Applez
02-04-2006, 10:13 PM
Nice post

There's a lot of sentiment for Monica Seles. I really liked the way she played

She was able to end Graf's domination of the tour

Monica was one of the best fighters and could create the best angles of anyone who has played the women's game

Nalbandian
02-04-2006, 11:34 PM
great read rodeo...

Rodeo
02-05-2006, 12:00 AM
thanks guys:D

Michael Haller
02-05-2006, 01:06 AM
...."In the ’80s and ’90s when she was dominating women’s tennis," says good friend Mary Joe Fernandez, "she won eight out of nine Grand Slam (tournaments) in a row — easily! ... [/B]


"Eight of nine"?

Make that eight of twelve. Or seven of nine.


"Easily"?

Monica had many close calls in 90/93 on her way to the finals when she won her 8 slams.
6-4 in 3rd against Kelesi and 7-5 in 3rd against Manuela Maleeva at FO 90.
9-7 in 3rd against MJ Fernandez (fending off mp) at AO 91.
7-6 in 3rd against Capriati at USO 91 (JenCap was WTA #6 only).
6-4 in 3rd against Kijimuta at FO 92.
And losing sets to Zardo, Cecchini, Meshki types.
And one set to Sabby at FO 92.

Peak Seles lost 9 (NINE!) sets before finals in 8 successful slams.

Steffi Graf on the other hand lost only 1 set before the finals in her 6 winning slams in 95/96.
She didn't lose a set before finals in 1988.
In 1989 she lost only one set in her 3 successful slams that year (against #3 Sabby at USO).


Peak Seles: 9 lost sets to win 8 slams.
Peak Graf: only 2 lost sets to win 13 slams.

That is the difference between squeaking to your titles and winning easily.
Graf and Seles in a nutshell ...

Michael Haller
02-05-2006, 01:12 AM
Nice post

There's a lot of sentiment for Monica Seles. I really liked the way she played

She was able to end Graf's domination of the tour

...

When Seles was #1 she lost 5 of 7 matches against Steffi Graf.
That is 72 %.

Has there ever been a #1 player in the history of women's tennis who lost 72 % of her matches against her fiercest rival?


BTW, I don't think there still is a lot of sentiment for Seles. She is retired for almost 3 years now and already almost forgotten. She had some success 15 years ago. But her ungainly movements on-court didn't win her many fans. I remember vividly how the crowds favoured Graf in most matches.

AeonT
02-05-2006, 01:13 AM
"Eight of nine"?

Make that eight of twelve. Or seven of nine.



1991 US Open--Seles
1991 WTA TOUR CHAMPIONSHIPS--Seles
1992 AUSTRALIAN OPEN--Seles
1992 FRENCH OPEN--Seles
1992 WIMBLEDON--Graf
1992 US OPEN--Seles
1992 WTA TOUR CHAMPIONSHIPS--Seles
1993 AUSTRALIAN OPEN--Seles

Monica Seles won 7 of 8 of the BIGGEST CONSECUTIVE EVENTS in women's tennis she entered before the stabbing. While #2 Steffi Garf only managed to win an embarrassing 1 of 8 of the BIGGEST CONSECUTIVE EVENTS

Then #2 Graf went on to win 4 consecutive major events right after the '93 Hamburg incident.

Again, Is this is mere coincidence???... that Second ranked Graf went from winning one Grand slam in three years to winning four consecutive in one year...

Graf's career, and her BLOATED "lifetime career stats" that the psychotic Joe Pike aka Michael Haller keep on harping about, were tremendously aided by the stabbing of the #1 Monica Seles by a deranged jealous fan.

AeonT
02-05-2006, 01:15 AM
"
That is the difference between squeaking to your titles and winning easily.
Graf and Seles in a nutshell ...

Graf's 1/2 post April 1993 career in a NUTSHELL...

Gunther Parche and WEAK Competition after #1 Seles was gone!

Nalbandian
02-05-2006, 01:20 AM
Graf's 1/2 career in a NUTSHELL...

Gunther Parche and WEAK Competition after #1 Seles is gone!


She was one player that had the benefit of playing mostly in an era where there was relatively little competition. Stages of her career:

1. Early Career: Her competition was an aging Martina Navratilova and Chris Evert. Of course she would beat these tennis greats that were well past their prime.

2. Early 90s: Seles dominated Graf. She was simply a better player than Steffi in the early 90s and owned the Grand Slams and women's tennis.

3. Mid 90s: Seles was stabbed, leaving Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario as Steffi's primary competition. Steffi won most of her titles during this time.

4. Late 90s: The power era of tennis was a bit much for Steffi, which is why she retired. It became a requirement for players to have a strong forehand AND backhand, which Steffi never possessed.

Again, I thoroughly agree that she was a great player, but I do think that her position in the sport has been inflated due to her lack of competition.

AeonT
02-05-2006, 01:25 AM
BTW, I don't think there still is a lot of sentiment for Seles. She is retired for almost 3 years now and already almost forgotten. She had some success 15 years ago. But her ungainly movements on-court didn't win her many fans. I remember vividly how the crowds favoured Graf in most matches.

Yep, the crowds were behind the underdog during those years which was Graf ( just as they were behind Navratilova when she was playing Graf). #1 Seles was whipping #2 Graf's arse on a consistent basis and was singlehandedly dominating women's tennis..Poor thing..Until Parche showed up with a knife!

Your german idol will NEVER be forgotten as the one and only knife#1!

Nalbandian
02-05-2006, 01:31 AM
Yep, the crowds are always behind the underdog which is Graf. #1 Seles was whipping #2 Graf's arse on a consistent basis and was singlehandedly dominating women's tennis..Poor thing..Until Parche showed up with a knife!

Your german idol will NEVER be forgotten as the one and only knife#1!

There was NO rivalry because it became a very one sided affair (very similar to what Roger Federer is doing now to men's tennis)...

Monica Seles was TOTALLY dominating Graf and women's tennis at the time of the attack. She virtually WON everything except Wimbledon....

She won 9 of the 11 biggest titles in women's tennis contested with #2 Graf 24 months leading up to the stabbing...

AeonT
02-05-2006, 01:38 AM
"Eight of nine"?

Make that eight of twelve. Or seven of nine.


"Easily"?

Monica had many close calls in 90/93 on her way to the finals when she won her 8 slams.
6-4 in 3rd against Kelesi and 7-5 in 3rd against Manuela Maleeva at FO 90.
9-7 in 3rd against MJ Fernandez (fending off mp) at AO 91.
7-6 in 3rd against Capriati at USO 91 (JenCap was WTA #6 only).
6-4 in 3rd against Kijimuta at FO 92.
And losing sets to Zardo, Cecchini, Meshki types.
And one set to Sabby at FO 92.

Peak Seles lost 9 (NINE!) sets before finals in 8 successful slams.

Steffi Graf on the other hand lost only 1 set before the finals in her 6 winning slams in 95/96.
She didn't lose a set before finals in 1988.
In 1989 she lost only one set in her 3 successful slams that year (against #3 Sabby at USO).





No, you simply do not PSYCHO! Your numbers have been disproved (or shown to be manipulated to distortion) and your facts are limited to falsehoods, exaggerations and convenient omissions and distortions.

Just because the YOU keep repeating the same lies to try and hide these facts over and over, that doesn't make them true. ha, ha, ha

SteveI
02-05-2006, 01:42 AM
Hi,

I loved Monica, but I remember very clearly why she left the tour. She could not beat Hingis. Hingis knew that Monica would never move forward and therefore kept getting balls back in the court.. over and over until Monica missed or ran out of gas. It was sad to see that the game Hingis presented to Monica was just too much for her limited style and that it was time to leave. It was also very sad to see Monica come to the net and have no clue what to do when she was trapped up there.. sort of an early AROD. BTW.. what was Monica's record vs Hingis? I recall.. a very bad beating at a major event one year.. maybe double bagle. maybe at the NASQAD?

Regards,
Steve

AeonT
02-05-2006, 01:47 AM
Hi,

I loved Monica, but I remember very clearly why she left the tour. She could not beat Hingis. Hingis knew that Monica would never move forward and therefore kept getting balls back in the court.. over and over until Monica missed or ran out of gas. It was sad to see that the game Hingis presented to Monica was just too much for her limited style and that it was time to leave. It was also very sad to see Monica come to the net and have no clue what to do when she was trapped up there.. sort of an early AROD. BTW.. what was Monica's record vs Hingis? I recall.. a very bad beating at a major event one year.. maybe double bagle. maybe at the NASQAD?

Regards,
Steve

Obviously, Monica Seles was not as good after being off for 2 or 3 years when she returned from being stabbed in the back with a knife in April 1993 by a jealous Graf fan.

Nalbandian
02-05-2006, 01:51 AM
Hi,

I loved Monica, but I remember very clearly why she left the tour.

Steve, I remember very clearly too on why she was FORCED to leave the tour in April 1993.

She was the number one ranked female player and had just won the 1993 Australian...She was also the defending champion for French, US Open and WTA Champions ( 3 years running) and a finalist at Wimbledon the year before....

I wonder why she left the tour....hmmmm

Nalbandian
02-05-2006, 01:58 AM
Hi,

It was sad to see that the game Hingis presented to Monica was just too much for her limited style and that it was time to leave. It was also very sad to see Monica come to the net and have no clue what to do when she was trapped up there.. sort of an early AROD. BTW.. what was Monica's record vs Hingis? I recall.. a very bad beating at a major event one year.. maybe double bagle. maybe at the NASQAD?

Regards,
Steve

I remember all those horrible losses of Graf against the Great Coetzer 6-1, 6-0 C'mon.....I would rather lose to a real Great Player like Hingis 6-0, 6-0 than to a Coetzer? LMAO

What's really puzzling was that Martina Hingis truly RESPECTED and ADMIRED Monica Seles and never felt the same way to Steffi Graf....

Well, I guess it takes a champion to know a REAL champion....

How very sad indeed to have all those numbers and you still are not getting the respect and admiration from your peers...

I wonder why....


Regards,

Nal

Applez
02-05-2006, 02:09 AM
I remember all those horrible losses of Graf against the Great Coetzer 6-1, 6-0 C'mon.....I would rather lose to a real Great Player like Hingis 6-0, 6-0 than to a Coetzer? LMAO

What's really puzzling was that Martina Hingis truly RESPECTED and ADMIRED Monica Seles and never felt the same way to Steffi Graf....

Well, I guess it takes a champion to know a REAL champion....

How very sad indeed to have all those numbers and you still are not getting the respect and admiration from your peers...

I wonder why....


Regards,

Nal


Didn't Graf also lost badly to that McNeil journeywoman at the 1st round of 1994 Wimbledon?

I know she had some pretty bad losses to Amanda

SteveI
02-05-2006, 02:13 AM
Steve, I remember very clearly too on why she was FORCED to leave the tour in April 1993.

She was the number one ranked female player and had just won the 1993 Australian...She was also the defending champion for French, US Open and WTA Champions ( 3 years running) and a finalist at Wimbledon the year before....

I wonder why she left the tour....hmmmm

Hi,

I was referring to her comeback attempt. It was clear her lack of fitness and adjustment to the new game was her un-doing. Just like S.Williams, her game was based on power and the fact that she did not have to return many balls to win points and matches. The newer, fitter players handled her power and just waited for Monica to miss or run-out of gas.. I remember it very clearly. Her lack of fitness and ability to adjust to the new players on the tour limited her success and caused her many injuries. The game had passed her by..and she was not willing to make the sacrifices needed to compete at that high level..

Regards,
Steve

Nalbandian
02-05-2006, 02:17 AM
Hi,

I was referring to her comeback attempt. It was clear her lack of fitness and adjustment to the new game was her un-doing. Just like S.Williams, her game was based on power and the fact that she did not have to return many balls to win points and matches. The newer, fitter players handled her power and just waited for Monica to miss or run-out of gas.. I remember it very clearly. Her lack of fitness and ability to adjust to the new players on the tour limited her success and caused her many injuries. The game had passed her by..and she was not willing to make the sacrifices needed to compete at that high level..

Regards,
Steve

Yeah Steve, Unlike Serena Williams, Monica was stabbed with a knife by a jealous deranged compatriot fan of her lower ranked rival on a tennis court during a tennis tournament because she was playing GREAT TENNIS and clearly was the BEST PLAYER in the world.

Before the stabbing, Monica never had those issues except WINNING too much.

SteveI
02-05-2006, 02:23 AM
Yeah Steve, Unlike Serena Williams, Monica was stabbed with a knife by a jealous deranged compatriot fan of her lower ranked rival on a tennis court during a tennis tournament because she was playing GREAT TENNIS and clearly was the BEST PLAYER in the world.

Before the stabbing, Monica never had those issues except WINNING too much.

Again,

Not referring to her results before the stabbing. I conceed that point and really loved her game. The fact remains that she did not put the work into to get back on top.. Plain and simple.. See ya..

Steve

AeonT
02-05-2006, 02:25 AM
Again,

Not referring to her results before the stabbing. I conceed that point and really loved her game. The fact remains that she did not put the work into to get back on top.. Plain and simple.. See ya..

Steve

Which is actually quite remarkable in itself ... can you imagine any other player in women's tennis during the Open Era being able to return to tennis after being stabbed in the back and being away from the competition for almost 30 months (2 years, 4 months) and then coming back and winning a Tier I event and then reaching the Grand Slam final one month after her return? Then, Seles actually went on to win the Australian for a 4th time.

Still, she was not as good in 1995 or 1996 as she was in 1991, 1992 and 1993before the stabbing took place.

Right Steve D? See ya mo-ron!

Applez
02-05-2006, 02:29 AM
Again,

Not referring to her results before the stabbing. I conceed that point and really loved her game. The fact remains that she did not put the work into to get back on top.. Plain and simple.. See ya..

Steve

And you're blaming the victim?

Maybe Tennis and Grand Slams are no longer that important to Monica after almost being killed because she was so GOOD at it

SteveI
02-05-2006, 02:30 AM
Which is actually quite remarkable in itself ... can you imagine any other player in women's tennis during the Open Era being able to return to tennis after being stabbed in the back and being away from the competition for almost 30 months (2 years, 4 months) and then coming back and winning a Tier I event and then reaching the Grand Slam final one month after her return? Then, Seles actually went on to win the Australian for a 4th time.

Still, she was not as good in 1995 or 1996 as she was in 1991, 1992 and 1993before the stabbing took place.

Right Steve D? See ya mo-ron!

Ahhhh,

When ya run out of facts.. then ya resort to name calling.. way to go..
What are like 12 years old??? BTW.. name calling will get you tossed from the TW site.. or did you not know that??? "mo-ron"

Regards,
Steve

Applez
02-05-2006, 02:31 AM
Ahhhh,

When ya run out of facts.. then ya resort to name calling.. way to go..
What are like 12 years old??? BTW.. name calling will get you tossed from the TW site.. or did you not know that??? "mo-ron"

Regards,
Steve

Then we have to toss a lot of people I believe

Right Steve?

AeonT
02-05-2006, 02:33 AM
Ahhhh,

When ya run out of facts.. then ya resort to name calling.. way to go..
What are like 12 years old??? BTW.. name calling will get you tossed from the TW site.. or did you not know that??? "mo-ron"

Regards,
Steve

You're calling me a moron fanatical Steve? Well, let me change it to I-DIOT.

ha, ha, ha

SteveI
02-05-2006, 02:34 AM
Then we have to toss a lot of people I believe

Right Steve?

Hi,

Again,

Just stating my position... not name calling. Seems there are many that loved Monica.. and she did make it back in many ways. Have a great day.. BTW.. are you all related to Monica or on her payroll??

:-)

Steve

RogerRulez
02-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Monica is great and awesome! She's the best! That's all I can say!

Yay!

Nalbandian
02-05-2006, 02:39 AM
Hi,

Again,

Just stating my position... not name calling. Seems there are many that loved Monica.. and she did make it back in many ways. Have a great day.. BTW.. are you all related to Monica or on her payroll??

:-)

Steve


Steve, are you Joe Pike's lover? hmmmm probably Gunther's relative perhaps?...

Well, hopefully you are not as nutty as him....LMAO

Have a great day too Steve and get some sleep...lots of it....You're starting to lose it...

SteveI
02-05-2006, 02:41 AM
Steve, are you Joe Pike's lover? hmmmm probably Gunther's relative perhaps?...

Well, hopefully you are not as nutty as him....LMAO

Have a great day too Steve and get some sleep...lots of it....You're starting to lose it...

Have a great day.. and tell Monica to push away from the table... :-)

Steve

Nalbandian
02-05-2006, 02:42 AM
Have a great day.. and tell Monica to push away from the table... :-)

Steve

Have a great day too steve...and tell Steffi to stay away from her nose...Is that possible? LMAO

And YOU stay away from the knife.....

Applez
02-05-2006, 02:44 AM
Have a great day too steve...and tell Steffi to stay away from her nose...Is that possible? LMAO

And YOU stay away from the knife.....

ouch

poor steve

he, he

SteveI
02-05-2006, 02:46 AM
Have a great day too steve...and tell Steffi to stay away from her nose...Is that possible? LMAO

And YOU stay away from the knife.....

Nalbandian,

Good one... BTW.. there is another post starting.. regarding Monica.. see ya there...

Steve

Nalbandian
02-05-2006, 02:48 AM
Nalbandian,

Good one... BTW.. there is another post starting.. regarding Monica.. see ya there...

Steve

Yeah Steve, I already posted your picture there...LMAO...

Steve and Joe Pike are one?

SteveI
02-05-2006, 02:50 AM
Yeah Steve, I already posted your picture there...LMAO...

Steve and Joe Pike are one?

Hi,

Going back to Rackets and Strings and Stringing/Instruction where I belong...LOL

Steve

Michael Haller
02-05-2006, 02:51 AM
Which is actually quite remarkable in itself ... can you imagine any other player in women's tennis during the Open Era being able to return to tennis after being stabbed in the back and being away from the competition for almost 30 months (2 years, 4 months) and then coming back and winning a Tier I event and then reaching the Grand Slam final one month after her return? ...


Actually I can't imagine any other player in women's tennis during the open era being out for almost 28 months (2 years, 4 months) because a minor stab wound.

Well, Seles always was a drama queen.
Same today - makes people think she might return to the game.
After being out of the game for almost 3 years again. That woman doesn't know what she wants!

AeonT
02-05-2006, 02:52 AM
Actually I can't imagine any other player in women's tennis during the open era being out for almost 28 months (2 years, 4 months) because a minor stab wound.

Well, Seles always was a drama queen.
Same today - makes people think she might return to the game.
After being out of the game for almost 3 years again. That woman doesn't know what she wants!

True. Where would your german idol be without that psychotic fan Gunther!

She was the knife#1 for a REASON! You're not getting any respect with that!

SteveI
02-05-2006, 02:54 AM
Actually I can't imagine any other player in women's tennis during the open era being out for almost 28 months (2 years, 4 months) because a minor stab wound.

Well, Seles always was a drama queen.
Same today - makes people think she might return to the game.
After being out of the game for almost 3 years again. That woman doesn't know what she wants!

Michael,

Bail before you get sucked into this mess. These guys have been up too long.. and have lost it...LOL..

Steve

Nalbandian
02-05-2006, 02:56 AM
Michael,

Bail before you get sucked into this mess. These guys have been up too long.. and have lost it...LOL..

Steve

yeah right Gunther... talking to thyself? LMAO

SteveI
02-05-2006, 02:57 AM
yeah right Gunther... talking to thyself? LMAO

See ya guys and Gals... Have a great day.. enjoy SuperSunday!

Steve

Applez
02-05-2006, 02:58 AM
See ya guys and Gals... Have a great day.. enjoy SuperSunday!

Steve


Steve,

You're a good example of why some animals eat their young

he, he