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RedGinseng
02-19-2006, 03:29 PM
I was just checking Becker's photos at gettyimage. and I was kind of surprised to find that 55 pages of his photos (out of total 79 pages) were taken after his reitrement. It seems like he's been attending a lot of non-tennis events, playing golf with famous athletes and playing tennis etc. and he seems to know a lot of celebrities. While there are 2 or 3 pages of Pete's photos taken after his retirement. Pete's been keeping a low profile so it's quite natural though.

I'm not a huge fan of Becker but it feels good to see Becker active. And it must be awesome for his fans, since it's easy to see what their favorite player is doing. Also he seems to be a good ambassador of tennis

John Mcenroe must be up there, too. and congratulation to him for his wonderful run at the SAP open :)

West Coast Ace
02-19-2006, 04:17 PM
And it must be awesome for his fans, since it's easy to see what their favorite player is doing. Also he seems to be a good ambassador of tennis

I doubt his ex-wife would agree with your assessment of his offcourt behavior. Some would consider his antics a sign that he's still acting like a teenager. Do you think his kids miss having a father while he's out 'having fun'?

And since he signed the 'pro tennis should go back to wooden rackets' I'm not sure the ATP would agree that he's helping the sport.

My recollections of him aren't that great. With his talent his Slam total is a disappointment. And considering his first W title is tainted - they gave him more than the alloted time to have his twisted ankle treated - he should have one less. He should have won a few FO titles but was too stubborn and tried to prove that he could wail from the baseline with the clay court specialists instead of coming in and pressuring them into errors. You could say he was the Marat Safin of his era.

LN_Dad
02-19-2006, 06:22 PM
Yep, Boris is a jet-setting party animal. I hope he's been staying away from the bad friends he used to hang with.

RedGinseng
02-19-2006, 06:57 PM
I don't know much about his personal life so I assumed that he had a good reputation and simply I thought he was a good ambassador for tennis since he had been seen at various places. but I guess I was a little wrong. Thank you for the replies and telling me something I didn't know.

gaspard
02-19-2006, 08:09 PM
RedGinseng

Don't pay any attention to them. Becker is fine the way he is. A funny and good humoured individual, who does not take himself too seriously. I would be interested to know which bad friends LN_Dad is refering to.

Gaspard

LN_Dad
02-19-2006, 08:30 PM
RedGinseng

Don't pay any attention to them. Becker is fine the way he is. A funny and good humoured individual, who does not take himself too seriously. I would be interested to know which bad friends LN_Dad is refering to.

Gaspard
you don't know? go out and buy his book.

gaspard
02-19-2006, 09:46 PM
Now I'm intrigued. I probably will get round to reading it at some point. But which person out there is not flawed in some way. Lets face it, most athletes are not amongst the most cerebal of people. Probably more prone to making mistakes, with all the time, wealth and opportunity at their disposal. What I like about Becker is the general honesty and humility that comes across when he speaks, today. He still retains those child like qualities of innocence and wonder at the world and all its goodies. He still gets excited about tennis just like a fan. Federer is a bit like this, at heart a little boy and a dreamer. He has had a kind of George Foreman like transformation from a bit of a brat on court to a good humoured, funny commentator. But his flaws come from his weaknesses and his vulnerabilities, rather than any maliciousness or ill intent. I also love the fact that he was totally naive to the notion and level of insidious racism out there, when he married his wife. It simply did not occur to him that marrying a black woman would be a press story, because racism was not an aspect of his personality. He is not a bad person, just a flawed person, as we all are. Check out this short documentary. It kind of illustrates what I have just said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/sport_web/video/9012da680013570/bb/09012da680013620_16x9_bb.asx

Gaspard

Jet Rink
02-19-2006, 10:20 PM
...

And since he signed the 'pro tennis should go back to wooden rackets' I'm not sure the ATP would agree that he's helping the sport.

My recollections of him aren't that great. With his talent his Slam total is a disappointment. And considering his first W title is tainted - they gave him more than the alloted time to have his twisted ankle treated - he should have one less. He should have won a few FO titles but was too stubborn and tried to prove that he could wail from the baseline with the clay court specialists instead of coming in and pressuring them into errors. You could say he was the Marat Safin of his era.

Becker was a class above Safin - both in terms of GS wins and within the history of the sport itself.

His first Wimbledon "tainted??" First mention I've ever heard of that - and I watched it live...

To diminish the guy's career because he didn't win the French should put him in pretty good company.

What an inane post.

Jet

superman1
02-20-2006, 03:34 AM
I've heard nothing but good things about Becker. He's supposed to be a great guy, and obviously he's one of the best players ever.

In the US at least, McEnroe is the most well known. The other 3 are Jimmy Connors, Andre Agassi, and Pete Sampras, I'm not sure in what order (probably Agassi Sampras Connors). Roddick has gotten popular - maybe it was the episode of Punk'd.

RedGinseng
02-20-2006, 10:51 AM
Thank you all for the replies.
gaspard, thank you for the link. I enjoyed it very much.

Deuce
02-21-2006, 12:57 AM
The ironic (or is it hypocritical?) thing is that during his ATP playing days, Becker was quoted as saying something to the effect of
'I hit a tennis ball over a net - and people treat me like I'm a god. That's what I do - I hit a tennis ball over a net. There's something wrong with a society that treats people like me as a god.'

Yet since his retirement from hitting a tennis ball over a net, he has certainly found many ways to keep himself in the spotlight.

mdhubert
02-21-2006, 01:48 AM
It's more specific to France but Noah has a huge visibility as a singer touring in every city and selling millions of CD's...

gaspard
02-21-2006, 06:32 AM
The ironic (or is it hypocritical?) thing is that during his ATP playing days, Becker was quoted as saying something to the effect of
'I hit a tennis ball over a net - and people treat me like I'm a god. That's what I do - I hit a tennis ball over a net. There's something wrong with a society that treats people like me as a god.'

Yet since his retirement from hitting a tennis ball over a net, he has certainly found many ways to keep himself in the spotlight.

Deuce, that quote and Becker's actions demonstrate neither hypocrisy or irony. Being in the spotlight does not entail one wants to be treated like a god. Becker clearly enjoys life and likes to be out there enjoying it. He is famous, not because he sort fame, but because he got good at a sport, which attracted a lot of attention. If he goes to a restaurant or a party or commentates, people are going to see him and take pictures. What do you want him to do, live like a hermit? He's not phoning the papers telling them to lionise him and take his picture, he's just not letting them control the way he lives his life, by hiding from them. There is a big difference.

Gaspard

dmastous
02-21-2006, 07:58 AM
I would say either Yannick Noah or John McEnroe would get my vote for most visible retired player. Noah because of his rock star status, traveling the world doing concerts (and finding a moment to be inducted into the HoF). Mac becuase he's everywhere. On TV with his talk show (now history), writing "You Can't Be Serious", doing matches on CBS and now back winning the SAP doubles title.
Martina Navritelova would have to get an honorable mention, but she's not really retired is she?

Rabbit
02-21-2006, 08:02 AM
I'd have to go with McEnroe being the most visible as well.

I'm also in the dark as to why Becker's first Wimbledon title was tainted. In the finals against Curren, he did employ gamesmanship one time, but was roundly chastised by the crowd for doing it. He put a hand up between first and second serves when Curren was serving and the issue was still in doubt. Other than that, I don't remember Becker doing anything overtly unsportsman. I do remember him throwing himself around the courts like a rag doll making every effort to volley. The guy was incredible.

Deuce
02-21-2006, 10:33 PM
Deuce, that quote and Becker's actions demonstrate neither hypocrisy or irony. Being in the spotlight does not entail one wants to be treated like a god. Becker clearly enjoys life and likes to be out there enjoying it. He is famous, not because he sort fame, but because he got good at a sport, which attracted a lot of attention. If he goes to a restaurant or a party or commentates, people are going to see him and take pictures. What do you want him to do, live like a hermit? He's not phoning the papers telling them to lionise him and take his picture, he's just not letting them control the way he lives his life, by hiding from them. There is a big difference.

Gaspard

I hope you're not serious. Do you honestly believe that fame and attention come to those who do not seek it?

I assume that guys like Connors, Edberg, Lendl, etc., etc. visit restaurants - but do we see them all over the media? No. Sure, they no doubt get asked for autographs and photos once in a while - but do they have their pictures plastered all over the media? Not even an egomaniac like Connors has taken this route. Becker, however, quite obviously has.

People like Becker and McEnroe go places and do things where they know they will get attention - there is no debating this fact. Along with this attention comes adoration - getting all kinds of perks and privileges that common folk never, ever get. This is being treated as a god. And Becker - simply by vitue of his near ubiquitous visibility - loves it. Thus, his blatant hypocrisy when one recalls the quote I referenced in my earlier post.

gaspard
02-21-2006, 11:29 PM
Deuce

Of course fame and attention can come to those who do not seek it. I see a difference between someone who seeks fame for its own sake and someone who engages in activity that attracts some fame and attention. Hewitt does not strike me as someone who seeks fame, nevertheless, he gets it.

I still do not see the hypocrisy/irony. Irony is your best bet, but hypocrsiy is a ridiculous claim. The world is the way it is. Nothing Becker can do about that. So he likes to party, big deal. I'm sure Connors, Edberg and Lendl frequent restaurants, but they don't strike me as the partying type. Connors in his heyday maybe, but he's mellowed out since then. If you love to party, and P Diddy, or whatever he calls himself these days, is having a bash, you are going to go whether cameras are there or not. The fact that cameras are present does not entail that you went because of them. You might have gone despite them.

Gaspard

Deuce
02-22-2006, 12:14 AM
Deuce

Of course fame and attention can come to those who do not seek it. I see a difference between someone who seeks fame for its own sake and someone who engages in activity that attracts some fame and attention. Hewitt does not strike me as someone who seeks fame, nevertheless, he gets it.

I still do not see the hypocrisy/irony. Irony is your best bet, but hypocrsiy is a ridiculous claim. The world is the way it is. Nothing Becker can do about that. So he likes to party, big deal. I'm sure Connors, Edberg and Lendl frequent restaurants, but they don't strike me as the partying type. Connors in his heyday maybe, but he's mellowed out since then. If you love to party, and P Diddy, or whatever he calls himself these days, is having a bash, you are going to go whether cameras are there or not. The fact that cameras are present does not entail that you went because of them. You might have gone despite them.

Gaspard

I still hope you're kidding.

Seems to me that there are plenty of parties to go to which don't have photographers and other members of the media there.

If Becker's name and photo are regularly in the media, it's 100% because he wants it that way. Of that, there is no question.

Hewitt is regularly in the media because he is a CURRENT player. Becker has been retired for several years - yet he still looks for the cameras.
Some people, for reasons having to do with insecurity, are 'addicted' to fame and attention and perks and privileges. Once they get it, they can't give it up, because they feel empty and comparatively worthless without it. Their self-worth is married to their fame. McEnroe is certainly one such person. Becker possesses all of the symptoms, as well - not to mention that he does not exactly have a reputation as being the most emotionally or psychologically stable being on the planet.

Bottom line fact #1: he did say that treating famous athletes as gods is the product of an unhealthy society.
Bottom line fact #2: he accepts being treated as a god - which occurs solely due to his being a famous athlete at one time.
The fact that he continues to accept all the perks and privileges and continues to allow himself to be treated as a god - even after he has retired from being a professional athlete - more than strongly suggests that he enjoys being treated this way, despite claiming to feel that this kind of treatment is wrong.
This is the definition of hypocrisy.

gaspard
02-22-2006, 06:20 AM
No, I'm not kidding.

Becker likes to have a certain kind of fun and party. Having some celebrity status offers him more opportunity to do this than the average person on the street. Naturally he appreciates it if people are pleasant to him, as we all do. I would agree with you if he displayed some diva qualities or was indignant about people not giving him the respect he felt he deserved as a celebrity. The 'do you know who I am?' syndrome. But Becker does not strike me as this kind of person. He seems like a very chilled out, confident, but ultimately undemanding kind of celebrity. Just out to have a bit of fun, and able to do so to a greater degree, because he has some fame.

This matter is so trivial, that the charge of hypocrsiy hardly seems worthwhile defending. Hey, but it can be fun to argue even the most inane things. One of the most amusing and ironically ironic things about this discussion on hypocrisy/irony, is that, charging someone with hypocrisy, probably demonstrates, more than anything, the most flagrant example of it. There is not a person on this planet, who has not been guilty of hypocrisy at some point in their life. This is not to say that we should'nt bring people to account if they display it, but just an amusing observation.

Gaspard

Volly master
02-22-2006, 07:02 AM
beckers hair reminds me of my brothers, so i always make of him when beckers on TV and he is in the room :-)..i'm so nice

Kirko
02-22-2006, 04:03 PM
The ironic (or is it hypocritical?) thing is that during his ATP playing days, Becker was quoted as saying something to the effect of
'I hit a tennis ball over a net - and people treat me like I'm a god. That's what I do - I hit a tennis ball over a net. There's something wrong with a society that treats people like me as a god.'

Yet since his retirement from hitting a tennis ball over a net, he has certainly found many ways to keep himself in the spotlight.

Kirko
02-22-2006, 04:05 PM
Deuce you're right; there was time I thought this guy greatest ever, eg. is teenage Wimbledon wins, but now replaced many times over as the greatest. he's embarassing.

Yours!05
02-22-2006, 04:06 PM
FORMER Wimbledon champion Boris Becker has been awarded 1.2 million euros ($1.9 million) in damages against conservative newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung by a Munich court.

It was more than a million euros less than the triple Wimbledon champion had demanded off the paper, which had published his photograph without his consent in the 2001 launch of its new Sunday edition.
The photo was published alongside a slogan that portrayed the tennis star in a negative light.
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,18245452-23216,00.html

jhhachamp
02-22-2006, 06:10 PM
The fact that he continues to accept all the perks and privileges and continues to allow himself to be treated as a god - even after he has retired from being a professional athlete - more than strongly suggests that he enjoys being treated this way, despite claiming to feel that this kind of treatment is wrong.
This is the definition of hypocrisy.

I agree with you here that Becker seeks the spotlight and enjoys the perks associated with it. I don't, however, see the hypocracy from that quote you wrote earlier.

From what I can gather, Becker thinks that society is screwed up for worshipping him, but enjoys it nonetheless. I don't see anything in that quote suggesting he thinks that it is wrong for him to seek or enjoy this sort of treatment. If his quote had been more to the effect of "It is immoral for people to seek out fame and attention," then I would call it hypocracy.

El Diablo
02-22-2006, 06:22 PM
Man, I'd hate to have my life evaluated this stringently. As noted above, being in the public eye does not mean you believe you should be treated like a god. The failing is not his but ours, with the imbecilic Nadal worshipping and Hewitt worshipping and the rest that's seen on this board, none of which is asked for by the players. The German public is not shy about the deification of its athletic heroes and I suspect that's been more of a burden than anything else for Becker.

Deuce
02-22-2006, 11:37 PM
I agree with you here that Becker seeks the spotlight and enjoys the perks associated with it. I don't, however, see the hypocracy from that quote you wrote earlier.

From what I can gather, Becker thinks that society is screwed up for worshipping him, but enjoys it nonetheless. I don't see anything in that quote suggesting he thinks that it is wrong for him to seek or enjoy this sort of treatment. If his quote had been more to the effect of "It is immoral for people to seek out fame and attention," then I would call it hypocracy.

I see the hypocrisy being in the fact that he thinks it's wrong to place people on a pedestal and to 'worship' them, but he still goes to the places and does the things that he knows will bring him the very worship that he claims is wrong. He's been doing it long enough for one to easily conclude that he enjoys it all.

So, he is actually encouraging something that he claims is wrong - worship. He's a main player - a main ingredient - a direct contributor - in something that he supposedly feels is wrong.

This is the definition of hypocrisy, as I understand it.

jhhachamp
02-23-2006, 04:54 PM
I see the hypocrisy being in the fact that he thinks it's wrong to place people on a pedestal...

I don't really see that from the quote earlier. I see the quote being more along the lines of him finding it strange, but not wrong.

West Coast Ace
02-23-2006, 05:08 PM
No, I'm not kidding.

Becker likes to have a certain kind of fun and party.

GaspardQuit while you're behind. Like Deuce said, there are plenty of PRIVATE parties Becker could go to and have a great time. But he obviously loves the parties where the cameras will be.

Same with JMac. In his book he said he wasn't comfortable initially with his fame. But obviously when his career died out and he saw the mantle being passed to Agassi and Sampras, he did everything in his power to hang around and make sure no one forgot who he was.

I remember one other great story that showed Becker's arrogance: he took millions from Ford to endorse their product (and only drive their cars) - then got caught doing about 150mph on the Autobahn - driving a Porsche. Not what I'd call 'role model' behavior.

mctennis
02-23-2006, 05:30 PM
I think Brad Gilbert is doing a pretty good job of sticking his "mug" in front of a camera. He's not coaching anyone and I think he believes if he's in front of the camera someone will ask him to be their coach. IMHO.

gaspard
02-23-2006, 06:23 PM
Quit while you're behind.

I like that. I'll have to use it sometime. Hey, Becker probably does go to private parties as well, but if you like partying, why restrict yourself to these ones? The only reason would be if you wanted to avoid fame and attention. I don't think Becker wants to avoid it, otherwise he would. At the same time I don't believe that he is slavishly chasing after it. I believe he is just comfortable with it.

Gaspard

arnz
02-23-2006, 06:42 PM
What is so weird to me is how people who do not know another human being personally calls them different names..eg hypocrite. On other threads, I see people posting that Sampras is a lowlife trash because he compared himself to Federer, Federer is an arrogant fool because he said that he cannot believe how much he is winning due to his talent, etc etc.

I presume to know nothing about these people, I just hear about them on TV or sometimes read about them. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know if somebody was there to write down what I say all the time, i say some stupid things at times.

Remember, you don't know these people personally. They are just human beings who happen to be famous for something, being it sports or music or movies, etc. Making judgments like that smacks of National Enquirer bored housewife mentality. unless they killed somebody or committed some crime, i simply wont judge anybody I dont know like that

Deuce
02-23-2006, 09:42 PM
What is so weird to me is how people who do not know another human being personally calls them different names..eg hypocrite. On other threads, I see people posting that Sampras is a lowlife trash because he compared himself to Federer, Federer is an arrogant fool because he said that he cannot believe how much he is winning due to his talent, etc etc.

I presume to know nothing about these people, I just hear about them on TV or sometimes read about them. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know if somebody was there to write down what I say all the time, i say some stupid things at times.

Remember, you don't know these people personally. They are just human beings who happen to be famous for something, being it sports or music or movies, etc. Making judgments like that smacks of National Enquirer bored housewife mentality. unless they killed somebody or committed some crime, i simply wont judge anybody I dont know like that

Actually, it is very basic insight to see that a person who is still in the media spotlight long after his retirement as a 'famous' player obviously enjoys the spotlight.
This, coupled with his earlier quote about it being unhealthy to worship the 'famous' reveals his hypocrisy - wanting to have his cake and eat it, too.

To see such things does not at all require that one know the person personally - for when words and actions are on opposite ends of the same stick, the outcome is clear without knowing what their favorite color is.

This planet is getting far too 'politically correct' - one can't call another a hypocrite - even when his actions betray his hypocrisy - without some PC person objecting: "How dare you say that without knowing him personally..."
Well, I dare because one need not know another personally in order to know certain things about him or her, because some things are very clear.

Deuce
02-23-2006, 09:45 PM
Double post...

The board is agonizingly slow right now...

jhhachamp
02-24-2006, 10:25 AM
I remember one other great story that showed Becker's arrogance: he took millions from Ford to endorse their product (and only drive their cars) - then got caught doing about 150mph on the Autobahn - driving a Porsche. Not what I'd call 'role model' behavior.

Why does it matter if he was going 150mph? I thought there were no speed limits on the autobahns.

gaspard
02-24-2006, 05:53 PM
What amazes me, is that Becker was able to get to fourth base with a waitress, on the job, in an exclusive restaurant, within 5 minutes of just having met her. Now that's fast. It's hard enough getting to fourth base when you have all night, all week or all month. I guess this must be one of the perks of being a celebrity, that some in this thread have alluded to.

Gaspard

superman1
02-24-2006, 05:56 PM
Good for Becker! That's a hell of an achievement, banging a waitress on the job. Any normal man would commend him.

dmastous
02-24-2006, 06:04 PM
Why does it matter if he was going 150mph? I thought there were no speed limits on the autobahns.
There are speed limits in some areas of the Autobahn. There are other areas where there is no speed limit.
So it is possible to be ticketed of speeding on the Autobahn.

Deuce
02-24-2006, 11:27 PM
What amazes me, is that Becker was able to get to fourth base with a waitress, on the job, in an exclusive restaurant, within 5 minutes of just having met her. Now that's fast. It's hard enough getting to fourth base when you have all night, all week or all month. I guess this must be one of the perks of being a celebrity, that some in this thread have alluded to.

Gaspard

Indeed.

It also proves that when he wants to, he can find privacy in a pinch...

pound cat
02-25-2006, 03:52 AM
He's always very visible through his financial dealings as well...

Becker gets $1.6M for unauthorized ad

Boris Becker

Associated Press

2/22/2006 12:00:57 PM

BERLIN (AP) - Boris Becker won damages of 1.2 million euros ($1.64 million Cdn) Wednesday from a German newspaper which used his image for an advertising campaign without his permission.

A Munich court ordered the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung to compensate the six-time Grand Slam winner for using a picture of him on an ad for its launch in 2001.

Becker had sought 2.3 million euros ($3.14 million Cdn) for the ad, which appeared across Germany on billboards, buses, newspapers and on television. The newspaper had offered 20,000 euros ($27,320 Cdn).

gaspard
02-25-2006, 06:11 AM
Indeed.

It also proves that when he wants to, he can find privacy in a pinch...

How does it prove that?

Gaspard

West Coast Ace
02-25-2006, 10:42 AM
There are speed limits in some areas of the Autobahn. There are other areas where there is no speed limit.
So it is possible to be ticketed of speeding on the Autobahn.Correct.

Deuce
02-25-2006, 10:09 PM
How does it prove that?

Gaspard

He and the waitress were in a closet, weren't they?

So... when he doesn't want to be seen, he obviously knows how to be inconspicuous and hide from people...

gaspard
02-26-2006, 07:31 PM
He and the waitress were in a closet, weren't they?

So... when he doesn't want to be seen, he obviously knows how to be inconspicuous and hide from people...

You're kidding right? Right!!?

Gaspard

Deuce
02-26-2006, 11:23 PM
You're kidding right? Right!!?

Gaspard

Sadly, I am not.

A broom closet, as I recall.

sunrise
02-26-2006, 11:33 PM
Sadly, I am not.

A broom closet, as I recall.

after all it was not that private if the media find out about it and then us?
I think that was in winbledon and the last straw that broke the camel's back in regard to his marriage.

gaspard
02-27-2006, 12:42 AM
Sadly, I am not.

A broom closet, as I recall.

No, I know about the closet. I was refering to your inclusion of this episode as more fire to your argument of hypocrisy. Becker's capacity to find privacy for sex is hardly a revelation. Most people do want privacy for their sexual encounters, and are able to achieve it, most of the time, even a brazen celebrity like Madonna. For some things, such as taking a sh*t, you will be guarded about your privacy. For other things, such as going to a party or restaurant, you are more likely to be totally indifferent and even accommodating toward the press. No one ever suggested that Becker was guarded about his privacy at all times, and simply could not shake off the media. My argument was that he is not chasing fame.

Back to the closet incident. Ok, Becker had a pretty good transitional game on court, but this is really pushing the envelope. From polite conversation to coitus, in 5 minutes flat. Impressive. Even for a celebrity. Boris clearly does not like to hang about, whether on the autobahn or in bedding young, nubile, willing waitresses.

Gaspard

Deuce
02-27-2006, 01:03 AM
No, I know about the closet. I was refering to your inclusion of this episode as more fire to your argument of hypocrisy. Becker's capacity to find privacy for sex is hardly a revelation. Most people do want privacy for their sexual encounters, and are able to achieve it, most of the time, even a brazen celebrity like Madonna. For some things, such as taking a sh*t, you will be guarded about your privacy. For other things, such as going to a party or restaurant, you are more likely to be totally indifferent and even accommodating toward the press. No one ever suggested that Becker was guarded about his privacy at all times, and simply could not shake off the media. My argument was that he is not chasing fame.

Back to the closet incident. Ok, Becker had a pretty good transitional game on court, but this is really pushing the envelope. From polite conversation to coitus, in 5 minutes flat. Impressive. Even for a celebrity.

Gaspard

I'll not take the bait and renew the discussion/argument about Becker's seeking of the spotlight. I've said what I have to say on the matter, and I believe my position is clear.

Nor will I involve myself further in the matter of the adventures of Becker's pecker.

I am, however, curious about your mention of "taking a sh*t".
Personally, I tend to leave a sh*t under the private circumstance that I believe you refer to. If you do, as you suggest, take a sh*t, well, that is your business, I suppose. Unless the sh*t that you take is in fact someone else's business - in which case you do provoke my curiosity.

Phil
02-27-2006, 01:11 AM
What amazes me, is that Becker was able to get to fourth base with a waitress, on the job, in an exclusive restaurant, within 5 minutes of just having met her. Now that's fast. It's hard enough getting to fourth base when you have all night, all week or all month. I guess this must be one of the perks of being a celebrity, that some in this thread have alluded to.

Gaspard

"Fourth Base"...We call it "Home Plate" or just "Home" for short, or, for what Becker did, a Home Run, which is a way of getting to home plate, WITH A BANG. Let me know if you need any more help on Baseball terminology as metaphor.;)

Docalex007
02-27-2006, 07:37 AM
Can anyone tell me what this type of advertisement tells us about Becker?

http://www.lr-international.com/uploads/pics/starbox_boris-becker.jpg

sunrise
02-27-2006, 01:23 PM
Can anyone tell me what this type of advertisement tells us about Becker?

http://www.lr-international.com/uploads/pics/starbox_boris-becker.jpg

Handsome, attractive, can sell perfumes.

Docalex007
02-27-2006, 02:34 PM
Exactly. :)

gaspard
02-28-2006, 05:13 PM
"Fourth Base"...We call it "Home Plate" or just "Home" for short, or, for what Becker did, a Home Run, which is a way of getting to home plate, WITH A BANG. Let me know if you need any more help on Baseball terminology as metaphor.;)

Thanks for the crash course. You will be my first port of call whenever I need any further advice on baseball terminology.

Gaspard