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Moose Malloy
02-21-2006, 10:17 AM
All the articles on Mac mention that he is the oldest to win an ATP singles or doubles title in 30 years. They don't mention who was that player in '76. Anyone know?

And please don't move this thread to match results, the match has been over for 2 days, do I doubt anyone with an interest in this match doesn't alreadyu know the result.

opiate
02-21-2006, 10:25 AM
ken rosewall?

norcal
02-21-2006, 10:27 AM
Pancho Gonzalez...I'm one hundred percent sure.

Morpheus
02-21-2006, 10:30 AM
Frew McMillian?

Moose Malloy
02-21-2006, 10:50 AM
Just to clarify, I don't know the answer either. I'm thinking it has to be Rosewall.

baseliner
02-21-2006, 10:56 AM
Rosewall is the oldest to win a grand slam title - 39 I think. Gotta be Pancho Gonzalez the oldest to win a title.

tennisnj
02-21-2006, 12:15 PM
According to this website, Pancho Gonzalez is the answer, HOWEVER, I'm not certain of its accuracy & if someone can do further research with me, I'm sure we can clarify the right answer.


Pancho Gonzalez is the oldest player to have ever won a professional tournament, winning the Des Moines Open over 24-year-old Georges Goven when he was three months shy of his 44th birthday.

This is the men's tour of course & only singles...

http://www.answers.com/topic/pancho-gonzales

norcal
02-21-2006, 12:33 PM
Pancho Gonzalez is the oldest player to have ever won a professional tournament, winning the Des Moines Open over 24-year-old Georges Goven when he was three months shy of his 44th birthday.

http://www.answers.com/topic/pancho-gonzales

Darn it! I taped the Gonzalez match and I haven't watched it yet - Have you ever heard of putting a SPOILER tag on your post?

BTW: I win.

Moose Malloy
02-21-2006, 12:51 PM
Rosewall won a singles & doubles title at 42 in '77.

I'm looking up the doubles results of various players(Laver, Smith, McMillan, Nastase)
I can't find anyone older than Mac at 47

But all the articles say "oldest in 30 years," implying that there was an older winner??

urban
02-21-2006, 02:07 PM
I think, Mac is indeed the oldest doubles winner in open era. Gardnar Mulloy was 43, when he won Wimbledon 1957 with Patty (over Hoad and Fraser). Arthur Gore 41, when winning Wim singles 1909. Gonzales and Rosewall were the oldest singles winner in open tennis. I only can imagine, that Pancho Segura played and won some doubles in the 70s. I know, that he played the longest set ever at Wimbledon 31-29 or so, alongside Olamedo vs. Forbes/ Segal in 1968, when he was end of forties.

BaseLineBash
02-21-2006, 02:41 PM
Trivial maybe...obscure yes. Mac took steroids for 6 years on tour.

West Coast Ace
02-21-2006, 04:08 PM
Mac took steroids for 6 years on tour.He should ask for a refund...look at those sticks for arms and legs :-)

Moose Malloy
02-24-2006, 08:25 AM
http://www.tennis-x.com/story/2006-02-24/d.php

From the ATP's Greg Sharko: "John McEnroe is the oldest known ATP doubles winner in the Open Era (since 1968). Pancho Gonzalez was 44 years old when he won the Pacific Southwest Championships in Los Angeles (w/Connors) in 1972."

Finally, some confirmation. But the "oldest known" part leaves room for question?