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insideoutAce
05-20-2006, 07:56 PM
i used to.. well i guess i AM a baseline player who hits heavy balls while behind the line a foot or two.

i want to change my game,
i have a big serve
decent volleys

in making this big change.. any tips?

im approaching net after every serve,
1st and 2nd
after every deep ball to the backhand

thanks

theartoftennis
05-20-2006, 08:02 PM
I'm a baseliner as well, but trying to become an all-courter instead of a serve-volleyer. The big thing to know is WHEN to come up to net. Sometimes people come in on the wrong times. When you develop this sense, you then have to realize what shots you may get back. Kind of like in your baseline rallys, when you pull your opponent way off the court, you already know there are going to be a couple choices your opponent can do. Same thing with serve and volley. If you slam one into the body, there are only a few balls that may come back at you, and you must know what he can do to hurt you, so you can prevent it.

Just practice it, and you're okay. Remember to practice against many different types of players, as you may not know what a random opponent may throw at you.

Wtitanium
05-20-2006, 08:17 PM
One tip that I would have, is make sure that you get to the net, or atleast to the service line. I've seen players that are right in the middle of no mans land when the ball is returned, then they stop, try to hit it, and it usually doesn't work because the ball is landing right where they are standing. They don't realize that they might have to hit an awkward shot, but that is much better to do than not hitting it at all.

I hope that made sense.

insideoutAce
05-20-2006, 08:32 PM
yeah
haha makes plenty sense

tennus
05-20-2006, 09:41 PM
i used to.. well i guess i AM a baseline player who hits heavy balls while behind the line a foot or two.

i want to change my game,
i have a big serve
decent volleys

in making this big change.. any tips?

im approaching net after every serve,
1st and 2nd
after every deep ball to the backhand

thanks
You've got to understand your own serve. By that I mean estimate the likelyhood of getting a weak reply and positioning yourself to hit the likely return. It takes a lot of skill to s/v off 1st and 2nd serves consistently and far too many people try to S/V by charging to the net without thought. You know where you're trying to serve so you have a big advantage, especially if you can position yourself to volley a winner. If the return is a good one and it's impractical to hit a volley winner try to get the approach volley or half volley deep and keep following it to the net(most people fail to close down the net). There's every chance you'll get an error from your net presence alone. One thing though, you will be far more effective if you pick your moments to s/v. Mixing it up can really frustrate your opponent too. Test your opponents volleys in the warm up. Make sure you try him on both sides of his body. Does he bend his needs or stand upright, does he move forward well? All these things can help you. Seek advice from a coach or similar, they can help you with angles of approach and learning to split step effectively. Good Luck :cool:

Rep. Timothy Calhoun
05-20-2006, 10:16 PM
far too many people try to S/V by charging to the net without thought.That is so true. I know I've been there before!

snoflewis
05-21-2006, 12:05 AM
j/w...what racket are you using now? you might want to try switching to a racket that's very maneuverable and good for volleys (Slazenger X1?)

travlerajm
05-21-2006, 01:29 AM
j/w...what racket are you using now? you might want to try switching to a racket that's very maneuverable and good for volleys (Slazenger X1?)

Actually, I think the key is to make sure your racquet is heavy enough. More weight is more important than more maneuverability. A heavier racquet will allow you to volley by just sticking the racquet in front of the ball. If you're using an 11 oz racquet or lighter now, I guarantee that your confidence at net will increase if you up your racqet to the 12 oz. range.

wyutani
05-21-2006, 01:31 AM
That is so true. I know I've been there before!

its a good idea to stay within the "no man's land" before rushing towards the net...just in case the opponent does the lob of slicing lob.

insideoutAce
05-21-2006, 09:31 AM
im using a six-one 95
17g @ 61 lbs
16g @ 62 lbs
16g @ 60 lbs

snoflewis
05-21-2006, 09:55 PM
Actually, I think the key is to make sure your racquet is heavy enough. More weight is more important than more maneuverability. A heavier racquet will allow you to volley by just sticking the racquet in front of the ball. If you're using an 11 oz racquet or lighter now, I guarantee that your confidence at net will increase if you up your racqet to the 12 oz. range.

wow...are you sure? because i think it's more important that people get their rackets to the ball first. it's useless if you have a heavy racket, but can't move it around and actually hit the ball...

i'd just say get a racket that's stable and maneuverable...easy as that...

snoflewis
05-21-2006, 09:56 PM
im using a six-one 95
17g @ 61 lbs
16g @ 62 lbs
16g @ 60 lbs

i think the n6.1 is fine for all styles of play....btw, what strings are you using on them?

ta11geese3
05-21-2006, 11:26 PM
Actually, I think the key is to make sure your racquet is heavy enough. More weight is more important than more maneuverability. A heavier racquet will allow you to volley by just sticking the racquet in front of the ball. If you're using an 11 oz racquet or lighter now, I guarantee that your confidence at net will increase if you up your racqet to the 12 oz. range.

Agreed! A heavier racquet makes volleys soo much easier. This is from experience:cool:

oh yeah.. from what I've heard on this board, atp doubles specialists use 13oz frames and stuff. Or was it 14... I don't remember..

looseswing
05-23-2006, 05:35 PM
Also, generally on serve and volley here are two tips:
1. approach in the direction of your serve (wide v. dtl)
2. take two steps then split step, then hit the volley deep to the backhand side.

AngeloDS
05-23-2006, 05:42 PM
I'd say make your serve a powerful weapon first. Be able to place the ball well with a good amount of pace.

Volleys are very simple but everyone tries to complicate them. Changing your style of play may take several months or even years to finally make it concrete and effective. Especially with serve & volleying because of the complications.

First of all it's a game of percentages. You will get passed, and you will win some. It's up to you when you want to come in and how you want to come in. It's also up to you to place your serve to where you think the ball will likely be returned. It's a tough thing to think about maybe 4-5 shots into the rally.

Serve out wide, ball comes in hit the first approach volley to their backhand, expect the down the middle shot, close in and take and hit the angle etc. You can't go in there without thinking. So thought is an important part.

Taking the ball out in front is difficult for most. Knowing where the ball might go and tracking it with your racquet in front is difficult. Split stepping and anticipation is difficult as well.

The first approach shot will usually be the most difficult so you need to learn how to get those knees down and keep that racquet head up. A lot of people tend to not bend their knees enough and drop their racquet head. Then you want to close in.

Most of all make your volleys simple. You should be taking them out in front. Too many people hit way too late on volleys or swing through their volleys. You don't want to swing through your volleys, you want to put your body weight behind the ball and move into it.

insideoutAce
05-23-2006, 07:15 PM
luxilon mains
gamma 16 crosses

the third is prince synth 17g

Jim_Courier's_Fluffy_Hair
05-24-2006, 06:31 AM
i used to.. well i guess i AM a baseline player who hits heavy balls while behind the line a foot or two.

i want to change my game,
i have a big serve
decent volleys

in making this big change.. any tips?

im approaching net after every serve,
1st and 2nd
after every deep ball to the backhand

thanks

Why do you want to change your game?

wyutani
05-24-2006, 06:43 AM
Why do you want to change your game?

i agree. there is no need to change mate'...i wish i can hit heavy ball behind the line a foot or two...geez~:cool: