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RiosTheGenius
05-29-2006, 08:58 PM
I had the opportunity to watch a bit of the Sharapova / Washington match, and I couldn't help to notice how poor sharapova's footwork is on clay. I understand that she doesn't like the surface and all, but she keeps trying to run when she's suppossed to slide, it looks very amateurish as probably most of the people in this forum even know how to slide their shots.
I just find it bizarre that a top ten player , mind you former #1, hasn't taken the time to learn something as basic as moving on this surface.

Bogie
05-29-2006, 09:02 PM
well roddick does the same thing, except he occasionally jumps, slips and falls. he was a former #1 and he has very little knowledge of how to play this surface correctly.

travlerajm
05-29-2006, 09:08 PM
I watched the end of that match. I was impressed by how much Sharapova's fitness has improved from a year ago. HUGE improvement. She didn't look gassed like she used to in 3rd sets. She was the fitter player today.

RiosTheGenius
05-29-2006, 09:14 PM
I watched the end of that match. I was impressed by how much Sharapova's fitness has improved from a year ago. HUGE improvement. She didn't look gassed like she used to in 3rd sets. She was the fitter player today.
yeah absolutely... plus that relates directly to this thread....... thanks for the jack :lol:

wildbill88AA
05-29-2006, 09:46 PM
and maria was crankin on that forehand and serve. be funny if she won the tournament. maria comes back from 5-2 in third, saves 3 match points, and here come the bashers anyway. lol

RiosTheGenius
05-29-2006, 10:17 PM
call it bashing or whatever you want.. I think I have a pretty solid point here

Othello
05-29-2006, 10:37 PM
This was a surprisingly good match. Mashona played amazingly to get up a break and then choked all the matchpoints she had on her serve.
Maria saw this and jumped all over it. Kudos to Maria with her mental toughness. This is why she is such a consistent player and in the top 5. Give her an inch and it's all over.
This is how it used to be with Serena Williams back in the day.

RiosThe Genius does have a point about her movement on clay. She plays like it's a hardcourt. However due to the fact that surface is not much of a factor in the women's game like it is for the men, she can do well on clay.
I suppose she could learn to slide on the clay so she can do better on it, but I think she should focus on her strengths first and try to win another slam on a faster surface before she works on clay.

wildbill88AA
05-29-2006, 10:48 PM
do u realize maria has missed the entire clay court season, and it recovering from an ankle injury? and a lot of the women dont move that well on clay unless they've grown up on it. i thought it was a well played match. maria looked very good, from what they showed.

RiosTheGenius
05-29-2006, 10:50 PM
I agree, but the clay court season is too long to just overlook those glitches

RiosTheGenius
05-29-2006, 10:57 PM
do u realize maria has missed the entire clay court season, and it recovering from an ankle injury? and a lot of the women dont move that well on clay unless they've grown up on it. i thought it was a well played match. maria looked very good, from what they showed.
this I do disagree with... her rudimentary grasp of claycourt footwork isn't a result of a few months of absence, but a lack of preparation from way back.
as for the other girls, I think you're wrong... all the other top players move well on clay ; Mauresmo does, JHH does, Clyjsters does, Hingis does, .... and being american is no excuse... there was a gentleman from Sanford, FL named Jim Courier, he was amazing on clay. he put the effort and time to learn the surface and ... oops, he was kicking southamericans and europeans in the butt left and right on the red clay... it can be done.

Othello
05-29-2006, 11:04 PM
do u realize maria has missed the entire clay court season, and it recovering from an ankle injury?


Yes I do. Notwithstanding, she doesn't move well on clay. Last year she didn't move well on clay and she didn't have a foot injury.


and a lot of the women dont move that well on clay unless they've grown up on it.


Very true. Even a lot of the Europeans prefer hardcourts.

i thought it was a well played match. maria looked very good, from what they showed.


I agree. I like the way Maria was hitting her forehands with conviction today. Even the over-the-head ones. Man she was killing those balls.
And the way Mashona played the second and 3rd set :eek: . Best I've ever seen her play. Too bad she choked her matchpoints.

siber222000
05-29-2006, 11:16 PM
isn't this like a first or second match that maria played on clay court this year? (or did someone else mentioned that already?)

RiosTheGenius
05-29-2006, 11:31 PM
isn't this like a first or second match that maria played on clay court this year? (or did someone else mentioned that already?)
you don't forget how to slide over a year

Defcon
05-30-2006, 01:15 AM
For all intents and purposes, Sharapova is an American. Which means she can slide on clay about as well as a 30 ton elephant on drugs. She does look a lot better though :)

But to be honest, both of them played a hardcourt match on clay. And for Maria to suddenly start sliding into her shots and *gasp*, construct a point, would be shocking. She wins a lot due to her toughness, all credit to her.

sandiegotennisboy
05-30-2006, 08:37 AM
what footwork?

she lugs around those size 16s like they are a set of ball and chains.

wildbill88AA
05-30-2006, 09:43 AM
prediction: maria wins the french before she retires. and this board will still be bashing her.

RiosTheGenius
05-30-2006, 10:13 AM
well roddick does the same thing, except he occasionally jumps, slips and falls. he was a former #1 and he has very little knowledge of how to play this surface correctly.
Roddick actually moves much better than Sharapova on clay...

Alexandros
05-30-2006, 02:36 PM
I agree, Roddick actually slides into some shots and is more sure of himself than Sharapova. It's a bad comparison.

Still, as someone already mentioned, surface is a much smaller issue amongst the women players than with the men. For one you don't have any clay specialists amongst the women, and for another you typically see the same women in the quarters, semis and finals as you would in any other grand slam.

superman1
05-30-2006, 03:06 PM
Her footwork is not good on any surface. Great ball striker, but her legs are like stilts.

Simon Cowell
05-30-2006, 03:32 PM
Let's see some pics of her feet.

arosen
05-30-2006, 08:15 PM
Just like Blake said, you either learn to slide or do what Agassi did, play it like you always do. I guess James Blake knows what he is talking about, his game is all about hard court. So, my guess would be Maria simply decided to play it like any other surface.

superman1
05-30-2006, 08:23 PM
Unfortunately she's no Agassi. At least he was fast on his feet back in those days when he and Courier were the 2 best claycourters in the world.

HollerOne5
05-30-2006, 09:36 PM
Roddick actually moves much better than Sharapova on clay...

I'm sorry, but in Women's tennis you can get away with not being able to slide much easier than you can in men's tennis. If you are a power player in women's tennis, you can camp out at the baseline and dictate. In men's tennis, even if you are a power player, so many guys are able to hit offensive shots on the run that you are constantly moving side to side, and still playing offensive clay court tennis. For example, I hardly ever saw Monica Seles slide on clay, and she never needed to....because she won 3 French Opens in a row.

breakfast_of_champions
05-30-2006, 09:41 PM
I'm sorry, but in Women's tennis you can get away with not being able to slide much easier than you can in men's tennis. If you are a power player in women's tennis, you can camp out at the baseline and dictate. In men's tennis, even if you are a power player, so many guys are able to hit offensive shots on the run that you are constantly moving side to side, and still playing offensive clay court tennis. For example, I hardly ever saw Monica Seles slide on clay, and she never needed to....because she won 3 French Opens in a row.

definitely one of the more intelligent posts on this thread.

RiosTheGenius
05-30-2006, 09:48 PM
I'm sorry, but in Women's tennis you can get away with not being able to slide much easier than you can in men's tennis. If you are a power player in women's tennis, you can camp out at the baseline and dictate. In men's tennis, even if you are a power player, so many guys are able to hit offensive shots on the run that you are constantly moving side to side, and still playing offensive clay court tennis. For example, I hardly ever saw Monica Seles slide on clay, and she never needed to....because she won 3 French Opens in a row.
good point, but you can't compare Sharapova's footwork with Seles'.... Monica Seles moved quite well on every surface

AngeloDS
05-31-2006, 12:45 AM
Sliding is cool looking but it can help. On another note, Martina Hingis didn't slide much during her match.

I think Maria Sharapovas footwork for her backhand is superb. The small steps she takes before striking really helps her be able to put more weight into her shot.