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MasterTS
06-06-2006, 06:37 AM
Well he lost in the 3rd round Boys Singles.. How pitaful.. An ATP pro that can't even beat "boys"...

This thread doesnt even deserve to be in the match results because frankly its not a real match.. its not a spoiler.. its just the truth.. Donald Young is one of the most overrated nobodies ever.

Jonny S&V
06-06-2006, 06:49 AM
To be fair, IT WAS CLAY!!! Not many Americans do that well on clay!

UpTheT
06-06-2006, 07:14 AM
Stop your *****ing. It's not as if he asked for the attention. He seems to be a good kid, so go ***** about something else. Like how many zits you have and about how all girls are mean because they don't pay any attention to you.

simi
06-06-2006, 08:07 AM
Just lost in the second round of the boys' doubles. 36, 63, 75.

Wondertoy
06-06-2006, 08:23 AM
To be fair, IT WAS CLAY!!! Not many Americans do that well on clay!

Yeah but he was seeded #2 and he lost to an unseeded player...not so good.

GRANITECHIEF
06-06-2006, 08:56 AM
For some reason i suspected that he would not win the FO Junior Title.

Shabazza
06-06-2006, 09:20 AM
For some reason i suspected that he would not win the FO Junior Title.
I'm not even surprised to see him lose on the junior level, his matches on the ATP tour didn't help him a bit to improve his game, while other players his age did just that!
His stupid parents and the media put him back for at least a year, great job!
Just as I said a few month back, it's the same what happend with Gasquet in France when he was 15/16 years old.
Guess they had to make their own mistakes, instead of learning from others! :rolleyes:

oscar_2424
06-06-2006, 09:23 AM
I hope he doenst get a wild card at the US open, he is not ready!

christo
06-06-2006, 09:58 AM
The results speak for themselves, unrealistic expectations placed on the kid by the parents, agent, media and most likely, himself. This is the world of hype we live in.

federerhoogenbandfan
06-06-2006, 10:06 AM
He is a victim of being famous for being famous. Then again he and his camp choose some of that himself.

Oluap
06-06-2006, 10:25 AM
He lost to a eighteen year old portuguese player (Pedro Sousa) and I suppose Donald Young is only sixteen. Although being the only Portuguese representative at the junior Roland Garros, Sousa it's not our best tennis hope.

goober
06-06-2006, 05:50 PM
Back when Donald Young won the Easter bowl, certain people on this board were claiming that he was dominating juniors and should be playing WCs.

Getting to the third round of FO juniors and losing an unseeded player is some serious domination.

Alexandros
06-06-2006, 06:19 PM
Oh but it gets better than that goober. Watch:

"I can always go back to juniors and win tournaments and beat people as bad as I was beat today,"

- Donald Young after losing to Carlos Berlocq 6-0 6-0

Bones08
06-06-2006, 06:36 PM
Oh but it gets better than that goober. Watch:



- Donald Young after losing to Carlos Berlocq 6-0 6-0

He's has beat quite a few people along that score!!!

TENNIS_IS_FUN
06-06-2006, 06:59 PM
Yeah but he was seeded #2 and he lost to an unseeded player...not so good.

He was seeded 2?? Who was seeded first then...

tonysk83
06-06-2006, 08:17 PM
Well give the kid a break, Americans suck at clay. Yes, he should be doing better in ATP events before he jumps up to masters series stuff, but Americans tend to suck on clay.

legolas
06-06-2006, 08:23 PM
To be fair, IT WAS CLAY!!! Not many Americans do that well on clay!
but many americans like YOU, make up poor excuses like that

simi
06-06-2006, 08:27 PM
He was seeded 2?? Who was seeded first then...

Draw (and results, daily schedule, interviews, etc.) available on the FO web site.

Phil
06-06-2006, 08:31 PM
He's has beat quite a few people along that score!!!

I figured you'd be along soon-DY's "champion"...it's getting difficult even for YOU to stand up for this over-hyped media/parental creation. Oh, BTW, please don't kill me.

Rhino
06-07-2006, 12:35 AM
also, Pedro's worst surface is clay...

go_nadal
06-07-2006, 02:09 AM
Everyone has an off day.... come on leave the kid alone hes only 16.....
Hes a leftie so he will come good.

Rob_C
06-07-2006, 02:23 AM
Some of you guys put too much significance in jr results. Like someone in this, or another threasd, said, for every Roddick, there are 10 guys like Philip King, Andrew Park, Robert Yim, who dont/havent made it in the pros.

Americans dont play well on clay, thats a fact. After Trabert won the French in '54, it took 45 years for another American to win the French.

As for the French jrs, no American has won that in a long while.

Also, jr result are no real barometer as to what will happen in the pros. I just checked a few players off the top of my head, and Taylor Dent beat Coria at the French jrs in '98, he also beat Federer on grass just before Wimby jrs that year. The year before, he lost 1st rd Wimby jrs to Luis Horna

As for the person who said clay wasn't Sousa's best surface, yeah right. For one, he's Portuguese, which is pretty much like Spanish as far as surface preference.

Two, I checked his jr activity, and it seems like 70 % of the tournaments he's played in the jrs were on clay, so, to me, that makes him a clay court specialist. Sampras lost to a bunch of clay curt specialists

8/10 tourneys he's played this year were on clay. 80%.

superman1
06-07-2006, 02:30 AM
He's just a kid. When I compare myself at 16 to myself at 17, 18, or 19, there's a huge difference. There's a huge amount of mental growth at that age. Every teenager looks back at themselves a year earlier and thinks, "man, I was so stupid back then." And then the next year they think the same thing. Give him time, he's no Lleyton Hewitt.

Grimjack
06-07-2006, 03:56 AM
Stop your *****ing. It's not as if he asked for the attention.

He signed a massive endorsement contract, saying, in effect, "look at me and dream of being like me; buy the clothes I wear and emulate me."

He didn't merely ask for attention. He prostituted himself for attention. Not that there's anything wrong with that; celebs do it every day. But to let them do it and then say they didn't ask for attention is ridiculous. Kid is getting paid, and getting paid handsomely EXACTLY because he signed up to be scrutinized -- if the media isn't up his *** every step he takes, then his endorsement deal is worth nothing to the company paying for it. If he didn't want to have to handle the pressure, he shouldn't have said yes to the high-paying spotlight. But he did, so he deserves every bit of harsh criticism he gets for every pathetic loss to kids who are nowhere near even being his peers now.

tennus
06-07-2006, 04:12 AM
Well he lost in the 3rd round Boys Singles.. How pitaful.. An ATP pro that can't even beat "boys"...

This thread doesnt even deserve to be in the match results because frankly its not a real match.. its not a spoiler.. its just the truth.. Donald Young is one of the most overrated nobodies ever.

He's hardly a nobody. The simple fact many people talk about this guy proves that. Anyway, as much as there has been parental and business hype about this guy, do you really think the USTA have not been trying to ride the magic carpet for prospective success ? America, just like Australia and the UK are desperate for a young kid to crack the top 10 just like the good ol days. Well...........sorry, its a lot harder to make the top 100 ATP when there is thousands more from a myriad of new tennis playing countries all jostling for those positions. At 16 he's just got nothing to prove !:)

Rhino
06-07-2006, 04:36 AM
As for the person who said clay wasn't Sousa's best surface, yeah right. For one, he's Portuguese, which is pretty much like Spanish as far as surface preference.
Two, I checked his jr activity, and it seems like 70 % of the tournaments he's played in the jrs were on clay, so, to me, that makes him a clay court specialist. Sampras lost to a bunch of clay curt specialists
8/10 tourneys he's played this year were on clay. 80%.

Just because he has more opportunities to play on clay doesn't mean it's his favourite surface. Most of his tournys are in Portugal/Spain so of course they're on clay.
Pedro's fave surface is hardcourt:
http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/players/player.asp?player=100047761
When he gets the chance to play on hardcourt his results are better, check his activity again if you need to.

Anyway, the point is, DY sucks, get used to it and move on.

baseliner
06-07-2006, 04:49 AM
DY has been given opportunities that anyone on this board would have taken. Who here if offered a massive endorsement contract would turn it down ("I'm too young and undeserving, please find a more accomplished pro and give them the money") He has gotten wild cards into ATP events. What should he do again say no give it to someone more deserving? He and his hanlders see this as a process. Admittedly his results are nothing special, but given my mediocre junior career, if given the opportunity to play around the world on someone else's dime, I would have jumped at the chance and never looked back. Had I done that my ATP victory total would still be the same--zero!

HyperHorse
06-07-2006, 04:50 AM
Just because he has more opportunities to play on clay doesn't mean it's his favourite surface. Most of his tournys are in Portugal/Spain so of course they're on clay.
Pedro's fave surface is hardcourt:
http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/players/player.asp?player=100047761
When he gets the chance to play on hardcourt his results are better, check his activity again if you need to.

Anyway, the point is, DY sucks, get used to it and move on.

get a clue and get off the kid's case, u ignorant git...
i was going to say this before, but i thought it was a bit off topic... but ill say it anyway...
if there's anyone that's proven to be a dissapointment...
its Mark Phillipoussis....

END OF STORY. NO MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT POOR DON YOUNG...

Rhino
06-07-2006, 04:57 AM
get a clue and get off the kid's case, u ignorant git...
i was going to say this before, but i thought it was a bit off topic... but ill say it anyway...
if there's anyone that's proven to be a dissapointment...
its Mark Phillipoussis....
END OF STORY. NO MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT POOR DON YOUNG...

Yes perhaps you're right. Maybe it is ignorant to think that Don Y sucks. He's actually really brilliant and my ignorance is causing me to miss this somehow.
It's Phillipoussis we should be starting threads about isn't it? I mean only two grand slam finals, he must hang his head in shame when he sees DY in the locker room.

American tennis, Australian tennis..... what happened?

d70
06-07-2006, 06:34 AM
DY is a pos. don't tell me to give him a break. he doesn't deserve it. and saying americans suck on clay is the lamest stupidest excuse ever. it's like saying i'm man i suck at cooking. or i'm a woman i can't drive properly. Agassi won the french before. Even michael chang won it before. for god's sake he is chinese and tiny ... he still managed to succeed in the pro tour. DY should be at the monkey monfils's level by now.

DY should stay in junior league 4ever.

topspin kid
06-07-2006, 07:24 AM
If I Was Him Id Play In As Much Atp Events As Possible But It Looks Like He Doesnt Aquire Experience Fast.

HyperHorse
06-07-2006, 07:31 AM
If I Was Him Id Play In As Much Atp Events As Possible But It Looks Like He Doesnt Aquire Experience Fast.

right, and suffer major burn out...
the guy needs to take a self sanctioned 3-6month holiday in the GYM...
go on a serious diet change, and i mean eating a few COWS along the way, pack on some MUSCLE...

IvanYentl
06-07-2006, 09:41 AM
I think it's fair to say that compared to today's crop of young, successful players, Donald Young sucks. Of course, this could change over time, but all indications are that he will continue sucking.

Rob_C
06-07-2006, 09:45 AM
Just because he has more opportunities to play on clay doesn't mean it's his favourite surface. Most of his tournys are in Portugal/Spain so of course they're on clay.
Pedro's fave surface is hardcourt:
http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/players/player.asp?player=100047761
When he gets the chance to play on hardcourt his results are better, check his activity again if you need to.

Anyway, the point is, DY sucks, get used to it and move on.

Maybe you need to check his activity again. This year, he's played on clay in Brazil, France, Italy, Paraguay, Columbia. So your point that there's only clay tourneys in Portugal doesn't hold up. Plus, the hard court tourneys he played were lower tourneys, G3, the clay court tourney were mostly G1 or G2 tourneys.

TacoBellBorderBowl1946
06-07-2006, 01:19 PM
I don't know what all these threads about Donald Young are about. I mean sure hes in the pros too early, but what do you expect at 16??????? He has time to improve, and he will to become a great tennis player in the future. Name me one person whos become an instant tennis success at 16.Federer didn't find his form until he was 21, and Nadal didn't until he was 18. The press is pushing him too early, he still needs time to develop. You guys should stop expecting him to produce now, there are many other tennis players to cheer for. He will improve and win titles, he just needs time to tone his game for the pros.

goober
06-07-2006, 04:02 PM
Name me one person whos become an instant tennis success at 16.


Agassi, Chang

goober
06-07-2006, 04:50 PM
He's has beat quite a few people along that score!!!

From October 2002 to June 2006, Donald Young has beaten ONE person 6-0 6-0 in junior tournaments. But don't let facts get in the way of you unbridled enthusiasm.

BabolatFan
06-07-2006, 04:59 PM
Ok he got a wildcard into the 2005 USO and tennis fans saw him there. Other than that he's just a regular tennis boy who's been trying to find his niche game. IMO, he should think abt his college instead and play there. It's pretty tough out on the tour and he's not showing any unbelievably unique talent.

Bones08
06-07-2006, 05:03 PM
From October 2002 to June 2006, Donald Young has beaten ONE person 6-0 6-0 in junior tournaments. But don't let facts get in the way of you unbridled enthusiasm.

When i say along, i don't mean that exact score. He's had a lot of sets where his opponents where winning 0,1,2 games!

AceYouVeryMuch
06-07-2006, 05:17 PM
Give him a couple more years.

sandiegotennisboy
06-07-2006, 09:21 PM
Give him a couple more years.

and a serve and a weapon while youre at it.

equinox
06-08-2006, 12:55 AM
I agree donald is over hyped.

I know this because donald only just scrapped through with a 6-4 practise set win against my clubs coach (tcav adv, nearly elite, grade 1) during 2005 ausopen juniors.

Donald should find a mentor/coach player and travel/play the challenger/futures circuit with him to gain proper tour experience. Dump the family back home, keep the endorsments in balance, don't sprout off in the media.

Just get to work and his game + wins will come along nicely after few years of tour maturing.

Shabazza
06-08-2006, 02:15 AM
I agree donald is over hyped.

I know this because donald only just scrapped through with a 6-4 set win against my clubs coach (tcav adv, nearly elite, grade 1) during the year he won the ausopen juniors.

Donald should find a mentor/coach player and travel/play the challenger/futures circuit with him to gain proper tour experience. Dump the family back home, keep the endorsments in balance, don't sprout off in the media.

Just get to work and his game + wins will come along nicely after few years of tour maturing.
He should do this, rather sooner than later!

goober
06-08-2006, 04:54 AM
When i say along, i don't mean that exact score. He's had a lot of sets where his opponents where winning 0,1,2 games!


So let me try to follow your logic. Donald Young gets beaten by a low level pro 6-0 6-0, but he has beaten some juniors by 0,1 and 2 games. He loses in the third round of FO juniors to an unseeded player.

And your conclusion is? He should be still playing junior events and Futures. Thanks for agreeing with me.

guernica1
06-08-2006, 05:34 AM
I sometimes wonder if Bones08 has even seen DY play in person or even on TV.

AndrewD
06-08-2006, 07:17 AM
Name me one person whos become an instant tennis success at 16.Federer didn't find his form until he was 21, and Nadal didn't until he was 18.

Rosewall, Hoad, Agassi, Chang, Borg, Hewitt, Wilander, Becker...

tennisjunkiela
06-08-2006, 08:16 AM
Grow up people and stop attacking a 16 year old kid who has accomplished more in tennis than anyone else on this board!

Donald Young can't win for losing - if plays pro tournaments and loses, he is belittlled and advised to play the juniors to develop his game before taking on the pros. and then when he plays the juniors and doesn't win everything in sight, he criticized again. Can't win for losing.

the moral of the story is to chart your own path in life and ignore the critics on the sidelines who haven't accomplished anything but have a lot of free advice (as my grandmom says "opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one").

Brad Smith
06-08-2006, 12:47 PM
The problem facing DY (and all the people hoping to share in his success as a tennis pro) is that he's a small guy. He's 5'9" and 145 pounds. I'm not saying you can't play ATP level tennis at that size, but you have to have incredible speed, consistency, and shot-making ability and anyone who has the right stuff to compete on the ATP tour using those qualities would have already shown them by now. It doesn't take time for guys like that to mature like it does for Sampras and Federer. Agassi and Chang were already winning matches and going deep into tournaments at 16, and I can't imagine how badly they would have beaten up on their peers if they were still playing juniors.

Last year DY lost to Paul Goldstein 6-3, 6-1 and Arnaud Clement 6-3, 6-2. I point out both these matches because neither one of these guys is going to blow you off the court so it would be a perfect opportunity for a young potentially still underpowered player to win or at least be more competitive. This year DY got double bageled at the Nasdaq by a 23 year old who is 2-12 lifetime in ATP top level events and is playing his first season in the top 100. None of this suggests future greatness.

I say greatness because the hype surrounding DY has suggested he could be #1 some day. That's incredibly unrealistic given his results so far. For all the talent he possessed Chang never made it to #1 and had a short time at the top, while Agassi needed a second act to get the #1 ranking. Rios was another small guy who made it to #1, but he had arguably more natural talent than either Chang or Agassi and if DY had Rios like talent he wouldn't be 0-9 in ATP level events and losing so often in the 1st and 2nd rounds of challengers.

tennis life
06-08-2006, 06:04 PM
cut him some slack, americans suck on clay,and every1 slips up now and then, eventually he will prove his is deserving of all the attention hes gotten

jackson vile
06-08-2006, 06:29 PM
Well he lost in the 3rd round Boys Singles.. How pitaful.. An ATP pro that can't even beat "boys"...

This thread doesnt even deserve to be in the match results because frankly its not a real match.. its not a spoiler.. its just the truth.. Donald Young is one of the most overrated nobodies ever.


I thought he retired?:confused:


:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

jackcrawford
06-08-2006, 06:54 PM
I thought he retired?:confused:


:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
He might as well - he has no power and not much feel - incredible anyone ever thought this guy had pro potential. Juniors only and now with his confidence gone even that's too much for him.

fallen.
06-08-2006, 07:07 PM
for all those that are criticizing him..

how good were YOU when you were 16? i'm sure not nearly as good as him or i would've heard of you

just let him train and mature over the next 2 years and he'll be well suited for atp matches

BabolatFan
06-08-2006, 07:53 PM
Ok he got a wildcard into the 2005 USO and tennis fans saw him there. Other than that he's just a regular tennis boy who's been trying to find his niche game. IMO, he should think abt his college instead and play there. It's pretty tough out on the tour and he's not showing any unbelievably unique talent.

Sorry I revived this thread. I'm just waiting to see a new episode of "So you think you can dance" on Fox. :lol:

MasterTS
06-09-2006, 03:37 AM
HAHHA the unseeded kid that beat Donald.. lost the very next round with the respectable score of

1-6, 1-6!

Just shows how much of a great player beat Donald Young.

JCo872
06-09-2006, 04:09 AM
I saw Donald Young play in the US Open last year. I thought he had exceptional touch. He is a wonderful volleyer. He has a great feel for the ball. Fantastic shot maker. I like his forehand a lot as well.

His small size definitely hurts him against the pros though. It's a serious problem at that level. His serve has a lot of spin and he can't rip a flat serve (perhaps because of his height?).

I think he is an incredible player. He is quick with some serious god given talent and amazing feel for the ball. That being said, without a bigger serve, and due to his small size, I don't see him making it too far on the pro tour. But I hope I'm wrong because he is amazing to watch.

35ft6
06-09-2006, 05:52 AM
^ Yeah, I hope he gets taller and packs on some muscle and starts making some noise. From what little I've seen, he's got a really fun game.