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borisboris
06-18-2006, 05:44 PM
I can't believe he played 8 TB's in five matches to win Halle. What's the most TB's played for a champion in a 5 match tourney? 14 sets // 8 were breakers

Shaolin
06-18-2006, 06:03 PM
Karlovic will equal that in 2 matches @ Wimbledon

Rhino
06-18-2006, 06:48 PM
I don't know about 5 match tourneys but I seem to remember Sampras playing like about 10 tie-breaks at the US Open in 2001.

lucky leprechaun
06-18-2006, 06:52 PM
Fed's won so many close matches lately its unnerving. With sampras you knew part of it was by design as he usually gave minimal resistance on return and focused on holding serve with his howitzer, but fed doesn't have that. And also fed can just as quickly massacre you with a 6-0 or 6-1 out of nowhere. Maybe a bit of the inconsistent federer still hanging around from years ago?

OrangeOne
06-18-2006, 06:54 PM
It's a rare scenario when Wayne Arthurs wins a set without it being a tie-break, and when he loses them they're often in tie-breaks too, it's rare he goes a match without one! It's a shame he hasn't gone further in some bigger tournaments or he'd be up there for the record ;)

OrangeOne
06-18-2006, 07:00 PM
I can't believe he played 8 TB's in five matches to win Halle. What's the most TB's played for a champion in a 5 match tourney? 14 sets // 8 were breakers

After my last post on Wayne Arthurs - I decided to have a look at his record on atptennis.com.

Looks like we have trumped the 8 TB's from Fed - here's 10 in just 4 (admittedly best-of-5-set) matches!!!

1999 Wimbledon, Wayne Arthurs Vs.

R128 - Santopadre, Vincenzo (ITA) 7-6(7) 6-7(5) 7-6(10) 7-6(4)
R64 - Lapentti, Nicolas (ECU) 7-5 7-6(7) 7-5
R32 - Haas, Tommy (GER) 7-6(6) 7-6(3) 7-6(2)
R16 - Agassi, Andre (USA) 7-6(5) 6-7(5) 1-6 4-6

[I'd suspect looking at other "big serving wonders" would reveal some similar or bigger stats, like Goran, for example]

LowProfile
06-18-2006, 07:16 PM
Karlovic will equal that in 2 matches @ Wimbledon

Exactly what I thought. He drops serve once in a blue moon on grass.

borisboris
06-19-2006, 07:22 PM
Nice work Orange One. That looks absolutely ridiculous!!

superman1
06-19-2006, 08:15 PM
Here are some Karlovic results from 2005:

Surbiton, England
R32 Suzuki, Takao (JPN) N/A 7-6(5) 5-7 6-4
R16 Mahut, Nicolas (FRA) N/A 7-6(5) 7-6(5)
Q Baker, Brian (USA) N/A 7-5 6-7(3) 6-4
S Rettenmaier, Travis (USA) N/A 7-6(11) 7-6(6)
F Bracciali, Daniele (ITA) N/A 7-6 6-7(5) 6-7(4)

Queen's Club
R64 Mertinak, Michal (SVK) 140 7-6(6) 7-6(3)
R32 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI) 24 6-3 7-6(4)
R16 Zib, Tomas (CZE) 62 6-2 6-4
Q Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS) 2 7-6(4) 6-3
S Johansson, Thomas (SWE) 20 6-4 7-6(7)
F Roddick, Andy (USA) 4 6-7(7) 6-7(4)

US Open
R128 Fish, Mardy (USA) 139 7-6(4) 6-3 5-7 7-6(4)
R64 Agassi, Andre (USA) 7 6-7(4) 6-7(5) 6-7(4)

Madrid
R64 Rusedski, Greg (GBR) 38 6-7(5) 7-6(2) 7-6(3)
R32 Roddick, Andy (USA) 3 3-6 7-6(7) 7-6(3)
R16 Hrbaty, Dominik (SVK) 22 7-6(11) 7-6(3)
Q Nalbandian, David (ARG) 9 4-6 6-7(4)

slice bh compliment
06-19-2006, 08:21 PM
I don't know about 5 match tourneys but I seem to remember Sampras playing like about 10 tie-breaks at the US Open in 2001.

4 of them were against Andre (won three of those four).
I think another one was against Hewitt in the final (lost that one).

And who could forget the 5th set breakers against Corretja in 96 and Korda in 97?

Hops
06-19-2006, 11:26 PM
Most tiebreaks, one slam

11 Goran Ivanisevic 1998 Wimbledon
11 Steve Denton 1981 Australian
10 Wayne Arthurs 1999 Wimbledon
10 Pete Sampras 2001 US Open
10 Roscoe Tanner 1974 US Open
9 Dan Goldie 1989 Wimbledon
9 Todd Martin 1994 Australian
9 Kevin Curren 1983 Wimbledon
9 Ivan Lendl 1987 Wimbledon
9 Richard Fromberg 1993 Australian
9 Todd Martin 1999 Wimbledon
9 Sjeng Schalken 2002 US Open

Hops
06-19-2006, 11:39 PM
highest slam avg tiebreaks/match (min 15 matches)

1.727 Ivo Karlovic
1.255 Wayne Arthurs
1.000 Joachim Johansson
0.905 Mark Dickson
0.902 Steve Denton
0.889 Max Mirnyi
0.889 Mike Leach
0.886 Bryan Shelton
0.879 Ben Testerman
0.848 Nduka Odizor
0.846 Marc-Kevin Goellner
0.846 Nicolas Pereira
0.842 Chris Pridham
0.840 Karsten Braasch
0.840 Todd Nelson
0.835 Kevin Curren
0.833 Peter Feigl
0.824 Tommy Ho
0.822 Greg Rusedski
0.813 Johan Van Herck
0.804 Ivan Ljubicic
0.800 Todd Martin

vive le beau jeu !
06-20-2006, 01:02 AM
After my last post on Wayne Arthurs - I decided to have a look at his record on atptennis.com.

Looks like we have trumped the 8 TB's from Fed - here's 10 in just 4 (admittedly best-of-5-set) matches!!!

1999 Wimbledon, Wayne Arthurs Vs.

R128 - Santopadre, Vincenzo (ITA) 7-6(7) 6-7(5) 7-6(10) 7-6(4)
R64 - Lapentti, Nicolas (ECU) 7-5 7-6(7) 7-5
R32 - Haas, Tommy (GER) 7-6(6) 7-6(3) 7-6(2)
R16 - Agassi, Andre (USA) 7-6(5) 6-7(5) 1-6 4-6

[I'd suspect looking at other "big serving wonders" would reveal some similar or bigger stats, like Goran, for example]

another interesting fact about arthurs that you might like :
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=877679&postcount=3
;)


that tournament from goran is nice also :

Split, Croatia
International Series, 2-Feb-98, I, Carpet , Draw: 32

R32
Prinosil, David (GER) 90
7-6(6) 6-4
R16
Becker, Boris (GER) 65
7-6(6) 6-7(7) 6-4 (excellent match !)
Q
Novak, Jiri (CZE) 61
7-6(5) 7-6(11)
S
Sinner, Martin (GER) 100
6-3 7-6(3)
W
Rusedski, Greg (GBR) 8
7-6(3) 7-6(5)

but these are still only 8 TB in a non-slam tournament... i guess we can find better ! :p

Shabazza
06-20-2006, 02:38 AM
another interesting fact about arthurs that you might like :
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=877679&postcount=3
;)


that tournament from goran is nice also :

Split, Croatia
International Series, 2-Feb-98, I, Carpet , Draw: 32

R32
Prinosil, David (GER) 90
7-6(6) 6-4
R16
Becker, Boris (GER) 65
7-6(6) 6-7(7) 6-4 (excellent match !)
Q
Novak, Jiri (CZE) 61
7-6(5) 7-6(11)
S
Sinner, Martin (GER) 100
6-3 7-6(3)
W
Rusedski, Greg (GBR) 8
7-6(3) 7-6(5)

but these are still only 8 TB in a non-slam tournament... i guess we can find better ! :p

look at superman1's post he already found a better stat with Karlovic in Surbiton 9 in 5 ;) or Madrid 8 in 4 matches

vive le beau jeu !
06-20-2006, 03:31 AM
look at superman1's post he already found a better stat with Karlovic in Surbiton 9 in 5 ;) or Madrid 8 in 4 matches
ah sorry i didnt see it... :rolleyes:
but surbiton is a challenger and for madrid we're again at 8, so i'm still waiting for more at an ATP level tournament ! ;)