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Lleyton Hewitt
06-23-2006, 10:35 AM
I think Federer will lose in the early rounds this year....he hasnt been on the best of form on grass even though he won halle....like dropping sets....faced 4 mp!!! Though they are all tie breaks i feel big servers like Henman 2nd round or Berdych 4th round is it could really toruble federer all the way

malakas
06-23-2006, 10:38 AM
Don't forget Gasquet..don't forget Gasqute..:(


Though I think that somehow Fed will make his way through..:)

tnig469
06-23-2006, 10:47 AM
Fed will always find a way to make a comeback...even when he might look like he is horribly down...Gasquet might give him trouble...but Gasquet is to inconsistent at the moment to really be a FACTOR for fed....fed really does have a crappy part of the draw though

Zeph
06-23-2006, 10:52 AM
Whether you like it or not, Fed will not lose in the early rounds.

sureshs
06-23-2006, 10:53 AM
He is human, it can happen. He might just become bored of winning everything except clay.

ACE of Hearts
06-23-2006, 10:57 AM
Fed loves this grand slam so much, just like Pete did.U gonna have to bring out the worse in him.Alot of people are taking alot of things with the Halle tournament, i see it as him being mentally drained and tired.

simi
06-23-2006, 10:58 AM
Henman's a big server? First time I've heard that one.

exruda
06-23-2006, 11:11 AM
Well, to tell you the truth -- I'm a Fed fan and I'm not worried :)

Breaker
06-23-2006, 11:16 AM
He'll be shocked to lose more than two sets on the way to the final maybe.

TacoBellBorderBowl1946
06-23-2006, 11:25 AM
He did stumble in Halle, but I don't see either Gasquet or Henman taking three sets off him.

FREDDY
06-23-2006, 11:36 AM
i do want to see gasquet beat federer but, i dont think gasquet can win wimbledon.

arosen
06-23-2006, 11:57 AM
One thing is for sure - Fed got himself the most difficult draw he could get. Not only he has his usual nemesis Nalby to whom he lost plenty before, he gets Gasket (lost to him once) and red hot Ancic (lost to him too before). Tough, really tough draw. Rafa got the easiest draw ever. Go figure.

Nuke
06-23-2006, 11:59 AM
He's got a rough draw, but he'll get through the early rounds. Someone's gotta be pretty hot to beat Fed, and that's less likely in a best-of-five.

nn
06-23-2006, 12:07 PM
fed will win wim..looks like tough matchs bring best out of him..just love to see someone beat him

federerhoogenbandfan
06-23-2006, 12:11 PM
Roger will win Wimbledon, and will lose no more then 2 sets total, and 1 set most in any match in doing so.

Gasquet could not beat Roger in Halle when Roger was dead tired from the French. Gasquet stupidly has overplayed by entering a second straight event. Roger will go through him in straights, Halle is not Wimbledon.

Henman doesnt have a prayer in hell of even taking a set off Roger. He is far from beating a top player right now in his current form. He took a set off Hewitt in Queens, big deal so did 3 others. Hewitt wasnt playing at all at Queens until the final.

Berdych is an easy matchup for Fed. Their match at the French was a joke, and Roger himself said he should have won their final in Halle 6-0, 6-3 or something. Despite Berdych sneaking out a lucky set he was Fed`s easiest match in his weary Halle performance.

Ancic I doubt will even make the quarters, if he does he will be lucky to get a set. Ancic has not beaten a single top player in any grand slam except Henman at 04 Wimbledon.

Nalbandian wont make the semis. He is not good enough to be in the semis of 3 straight slams, so is due for a loss. Even if he makes it Roger has won 6 of their last 7, Nalbandian`s best chance to beat Roger is a fast hard court, it wont happen here.

Any of Hewitt, Roddick, or Ljubicic in the final will be a huge underdog vs Roger.

UCbearcats8
06-23-2006, 12:13 PM
even if fed makes it through the first round agaisnt gasquet, i think soderling or henman could provide a very tough test

federerhoogenbandfan
06-23-2006, 12:18 PM
even if fed makes it through the first round agaisnt gasquet, i think soderling or henman could provide a very tough test

Soderling actually has a better chance then Henman, but I expect Henman to beat Soderling. Soderling often gives Roger tough matches. Henman will lose in straight sets, gauranteed.

Arafel
06-23-2006, 12:22 PM
A lot depends on the mental attitude his competitors have going in. Almost no one thinks they can beat Federer except for Nadal, which is why Nadal wins against him.

exruda
06-23-2006, 12:36 PM
Ancic I doubt will even make the quarters, if he does he will be lucky to get a set. Ancic has not beaten a single top player in any grand slam except Henman at 04 Wimbledon.


RG '06 -- def Robredo (7), lost to Fed (1)

federerhoogenbandfan
06-23-2006, 12:39 PM
RG '06 -- def Robredo (7), lost to Fed (1)

So you consider Robredo a real top player? :rolleyes:

exruda
06-23-2006, 12:41 PM
Well -- he was in RG coming off a MS title in Hamburg. That's not really the bottom.

whistleway
06-23-2006, 12:45 PM
I can't believe people saying that meeting gasquet on the first round is not tough. This is a tough, tough draw. Luck has really been deserting roger these days.

exruda
06-23-2006, 12:48 PM
I can't believe people saying that meeting gasquet on the first round is not tough. This is a tough, tough draw. Luck has really been deserting roger these days.
You really think he needs a lucky draw to win Wimbledon?

federerhoogenbandfan
06-23-2006, 12:49 PM
It is a tough draw, but no draw is tough enough that there is more then a 4%chance of a player unseeded to take Roger out at Wimbledon. Anybody who thinks Gasquet has more then a 2% are dreaming.

exruda
06-23-2006, 12:52 PM
Where did you get that %% from? :mrgreen:
(not that I don't agree :))

Lleyton Hewitt
06-23-2006, 01:16 PM
Henman's a big server? First time I've heard that one.

Henman serving at his best is a pretty big serve

hoosierbr
06-23-2006, 01:21 PM
If Federer is going to lose at Wimby this year and I think he will it'll be before the semifinals.

Gasquet does have a chance but as others have noted he might be a bit tired from playing this week and he's in the final tomorrow.

I really do think Henman has more than a decent chance at beating Federer. He still has a winning record against him and he beat him at Wimby in 2001. Granted that was five years ago but a win's a win. Plus Henman has the game that can trouble Federer - if he gets to the net at every opportunity he'll have to force Roger to pass him which is his only workable gameplan. The crowd, the occasion - it could happen.

Should Ancic make to the QF's and I think he will he too has the game that can trouble Federer and he has the advantage of youth and a bigger serve than Henman.

HollerOne5
06-23-2006, 01:50 PM
Roger will win Wimbledon, and will lose no more then 2 sets total, and 1 set most in any match in doing so.

Gasquet could not beat Roger in Halle when Roger was dead tired from the French. Gasquet stupidly has overplayed by entering a second straight event. Roger will go through him in straights, Halle is not Wimbledon.

Henman doesnt have a prayer in hell of even taking a set off Roger. He is far from beating a top player right now in his current form. He took a set off Hewitt in Queens, big deal so did 3 others. Hewitt wasnt playing at all at Queens until the final.

Berdych is an easy matchup for Fed. Their match at the French was a joke, and Roger himself said he should have won their final in Halle 6-0, 6-3 or something. Despite Berdych sneaking out a lucky set he was Fed`s easiest match in his weary Halle performance.

Ancic I doubt will even make the quarters, if he does he will be lucky to get a set. Ancic has not beaten a single top player in any grand slam except Henman at 04 Wimbledon.

Nalbandian wont make the semis. He is not good enough to be in the semis of 3 straight slams, so is due for a loss. Even if he makes it Roger has won 6 of their last 7, Nalbandian`s best chance to beat Roger is a fast hard court, it wont happen here.

Any of Hewitt, Roddick, or Ljubicic in the final will be a huge underdog vs Roger.


Wow guys, lets bow down to this poster because he makes the most insightful comments EVER. This is my favorite...."Nalbandian won't make the semis because he isn't good enough to make the semis of 3 straight slams." Hmm, so you are saying because he did well in January and last month, that there is no way he can do the same thing in a tournament he's been to the finals before on? You should get banned for stupidity.

8PAQ
06-23-2006, 02:00 PM
Here is what I expect to see.

Fed will beat Gasquet in tough 3 sets. Maybe something like 7-6 7-5 6-4. 4 sets in the worst case. Gasquet will be tired and Fed already played him on grass this month and they played for 3 sets so Fed knows all he needs to know about his grass game.

Henman and Soderling will have a tough match. Maybe a 5 setter. I have no idea who will win. If it is Henman then most likely his back will hurt and Fed will just kick his *** in 3 easy sets. If it is Soderling then Fed will kick his *** in 3 harder sets but still most likely in straights. He played Soderling in 1st round of Hale last year and it was 3 setter so Fed knows him well on grass.

So the draw might look bad now, and if Nadal had a draw like that then he be out in 1st round, but I think Fed can handle it with only a moderate amount of effort. Fed is still the best on grass and he can kick anybody's *** in any order. So if it was Roddick in the 1st round and Ivo Minar (Fed's favourite 1st round victim) in the final that wouldn't make much difference to the eventual outcome. :D

So fear not Fed fans! He will win the title!

simi
06-23-2006, 02:05 PM
Henman's a big server? First time I've heard that one.

Henman serving at his best is a pretty big serve

My misunderstanding. I thought you were putting Henman into the same class as Sampras, Ivanisevic, Krajieck, Roddick, Arthurs, or even somone like Karlovic. Tim's greatest strength is his net play. At least we will be able to watch one of his matches on television, when he plays Roger on center court. I'm recording that one.

bluescreen
06-23-2006, 02:06 PM
8paq, i like your prediction about the gasquet match. i really dont think henman would be healthy enough (granted he wins his 1st round match) to really give fed a challenge. i think nalby and ancic will be toughest for federer, while he'll most likely get through the early rounds in straight sets.

8PAQ
06-23-2006, 02:15 PM
8paq, i like your prediction about the gasquet match. i really dont think henman would be healthy enough (granted he wins his 1st round match) to really give fed a challenge. i think nalby and ancic will be toughest for federer, while he'll most likely get through the early rounds in straight sets.

I also forgot to add that Gasquet will be overwhelmed by playing in the Centre Court. This is not Hale where nobody cares. We are talking about Fed's back yard and 1st match of the tournament with everyone watching!

On the negative side, Gasquet will be only few weeks older than Fed was when he beat Sampras in R16 of 2001 Wimby on the same court. So he better not do the same to Fed! But don't worry it is not the same. Fed knows Gasquet well and Sampras didn't know Fed well and he was 29 then and Fed is only 24 now.

Viper
06-23-2006, 02:19 PM
Nadal : Thank you Uncle Toni

KBalla08
06-23-2006, 02:34 PM
i want to see it happen sometime, if not this year then maybe the next... hes gota lose on grass once, even Sampras lost at Wimbledon, or else he wouldve had 8 straight instead of 4, lose, 3...

dubsplayer
06-23-2006, 02:43 PM
He'll get tested (sometimes I even think he gets himself in jams on purpose just to make it more exciting for him) but that's about it. He'll be in the final and win it. Rafa might make it to the qtrs. He has a ridiculously easy draw, but with his grips I still can't see him making a serious run. Also, I think his won't be nearly as sure in his footing on the grass and not get to nearly as many balls as he does on the clay.

fastdunn
06-23-2006, 02:44 PM
It's been almost 3 years since we've been seeing Federer somehow finding
a way to win. IMO, we'll see what he is really made of for next 1 year or so.

I don't think there was much challenge to his domination for his 1st year
#1(2004) but I think considerable challenges are forming now.
If he put off those challenge for next year or so, he is probably
truely great player, a player really special...

jhhachamp
06-23-2006, 04:06 PM
So you consider Robredo a real top player? :rolleyes:

Dude, this was on clay, and Robredo was coming off winning a huge Master Series title in Hamburg. It could be argued that Robredo was a top 5 clay court player since all his points came on clay. Clay is Ancic's worst surface and yet he still managed to win. I am finding myself disagreeing completely with everything you write lately.

atac
06-23-2006, 04:12 PM
Hey, whats wrong with Federer getting a tough draw!? He is number 1, is he not?!!!!!! If anyone gets a tough draw it SHOULD be him!!!!!

jackson vile
06-23-2006, 04:18 PM
Hey, whats wrong with Federer getting a tough draw!? He is number 1, is he not?!!!!!! If anyone gets a tough draw it SHOULD be him!!!!!


I don't think he has a tougher draw at all.

Chang
06-23-2006, 04:28 PM
I think Federer will lose in the early rounds this year....he hasnt been on the best of form on grass even though he won halle....like dropping sets....faced 4 mp!!! Though they are all tie breaks i feel big servers like Henman 2nd round or Berdych 4th round is it could really toruble federer all the way

He's tired mentally and physically. Give the guy a break. He's not perfect. I'm sure a guy like him will learn from his mistakes in Halle.

Chopin
06-23-2006, 04:34 PM
I have the opposite perspective on his performance in Halle. Federer had just made it to the finals of the French Open the week before and still won the tournament. It shows how amazing on grass he is. Even Nadal physically broke down against Hewitt and had to retire at Queens Club. Even while mentally and physically tired, Federer still is unbeatable on grass.

orangeblood
06-23-2006, 04:52 PM
He should still win it with relative ease, but that's a considerably tougher draw than what he faced at RG IMO.

jackson vile
06-23-2006, 05:36 PM
He should still win it with relative ease, but that's a considerably tougher draw than what he faced at RG IMO.


At the same time it could be a whole heck of a lot worse.


I guarantee that we will see some players come out and do some amazing stuff we do not expect, the US Open and W always promise that:mrgreen:

superman1
06-23-2006, 05:47 PM
Henman got to the semis of Queen's by playing from the back court. If he plays from the back court against Federer, he will be destroyed in straight sets. If he serves and volleys at his absolute best against Federer, it could be a good one. Maybe he'll get a set.

White Satin
06-23-2006, 06:40 PM
Federer will come through~~First round with Gasquet should be a beautiful match, however~~They both have eye pleasing games.

Robbie_1988
06-23-2006, 06:46 PM
I think this is just me. But all those pictures of Federer on the ATP site news updates show a weary looking Federer. I hope he wins a 4th straight Wimbledon though.

4 in a row would be quite something.

Kid Carlos
06-23-2006, 08:28 PM
Its interesting how the claims are that he hasnt had a good year and is not himself on grass, yet he won Halle. Had every match go to a tie breaker and he pulled it out, All of this after playing an emotional draining and big let down in the french final. How many other players are gonna do that, none. Anyhow will Fed win wimby, i think so. In the event that he doesnt someone will have to play lights out ala Richard Krajieck against Pete Sampras 1996 wimby quarters.

arosen
06-23-2006, 10:13 PM
If Fed and Nalby both go deep in the draw and play each other, Nalby would have a very, very good shot at it, provided he stays healthy. Fed has to be absolutely exhausted from the number of matches he played. He must be emotionally and physically drained. His genius will get him through anyone, but Nalby would require more than that.

127mph
06-24-2006, 11:42 AM
why dont people realize that halle was right after he played roland garros and got to the finals that is exausting *****

Roger is Boring
06-24-2006, 12:52 PM
i hope so!weimbeldon is so boring when he wins it all the tijme!he cant even give a good funny interview like arod does.

Matthew
06-24-2006, 05:17 PM
Roger has too much confidence on grass and at this tournament to allow an early round upset. I use the word "allow" because thats the only way someone is going to beat him. NO ONE can play as well as he can on this surface, and ANY ONE beating him would be a big upset.

Rhino
07-03-2006, 10:01 AM
Roger has too much confidence on grass and at this tournament to allow an early round upset. I use the word "allow" because thats the only way someone is going to beat him. NO ONE can play as well as he can on this surface, and ANY ONE beating him would be a big upset.
and the winner is: Matthew!

Grimjack
07-03-2006, 10:28 AM
and the winner is: Matthew!

Screw that, the winner is this guy...


Roger will win Wimbledon, and will lose no more then 2 sets total, and 1 set most in any match in doing so.

Gasquet could not beat Roger in Halle when Roger was dead tired from the French. Gasquet stupidly has overplayed by entering a second straight event. Roger will go through him in straights, Halle is not Wimbledon.

Henman doesnt have a prayer in hell of even taking a set off Roger. He is far from beating a top player right now in his current form. He took a set off Hewitt in Queens, big deal so did 3 others. Hewitt wasnt playing at all at Queens until the final.

Berdych is an easy matchup for Fed. Their match at the French was a joke, and Roger himself said he should have won their final in Halle 6-0, 6-3 or something. Despite Berdych sneaking out a lucky set he was Fed`s easiest match in his weary Halle performance.

Ancic I doubt will even make the quarters, if he does he will be lucky to get a set. Ancic has not beaten a single top player in any grand slam except Henman at 04 Wimbledon.

Nalbandian wont make the semis. He is not good enough to be in the semis of 3 straight slams, so is due for a loss. Even if he makes it Roger has won 6 of their last 7, Nalbandian`s best chance to beat Roger is a fast hard court, it wont happen here.

Any of Hewitt, Roddick, or Ljubicic in the final will be a huge underdog vs Roger.

...who has pretty much scripted the entire Wimbledon draw, right down to the number of sets each guy would win in each matchup.

Rhino
07-03-2006, 10:39 AM
Screw that, the winner is this guy...
...who has pretty much scripted the entire Wimbledon draw, right down to the number of sets each guy would win in each matchup.
He screwed it up in his last sentence when he said that Roddick or Ljubo were possibilities for the final.

safinlives
07-03-2006, 12:14 PM
good call lleyton.....and the rest of the haters on the board...HAHA

jukka1970
07-03-2006, 01:36 PM
good call lleyton.....and the rest of the haters on the board...HAHA

lmao, so true.