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will1087
06-30-2006, 07:51 PM
How many players still use classic grip?

Every player i watch now use western grip. Are eastern grips a dying breed?

TennisDog
06-30-2006, 08:18 PM
Thats like asking does anyone still use wooden racquet

will1087
06-30-2006, 08:21 PM
Thats like asking does anyone still use wooden racquet

lol, care to explain? :cool:

LowProfile
06-30-2006, 08:26 PM
Not many eastern grip users still exist, but there are some. Continental forehands are about as common as wooden racquets though (i.e. non-existent).

Semi-western is the norm among touring pros today, although a considerable number use western (dirtballers especially).

Eastern grip users? Tim Henman for one. Pete Sampras is a famous example but he's retired. I'd guess Dominik Hrbaty uses eastern give how flat his shots are, but I have no actual confirmation of this. Federer uses something in-between eastern and semi-western. Paradorn Srichaphan has been seen to use eastern in pictures (but then again in other pictures he looks like he's using semi-western).

Anyways, not many use eastern these days, as semi-western is a more versatile grip given how much topspin pros use these days.

will1087
06-30-2006, 08:30 PM
Not many eastern grip users still exist, but there are some. Continental forehands are about as common as wooden racquets though (i.e. non-existent).

Semi-western is the norm among touring pros today, although a considerable number use western (dirtballers especially).

Eastern grip users? Tim Henman for one. Pete Sampras is a famous example but he's retired. I'd guess Dominik Hrbaty uses eastern give how flat his shots are, but I have no actual confirmation of this. Federer uses something in-between eastern and semi-western. Paradorn Srichaphan has been seen to use eastern in pictures (but then again in other pictures he looks like he's using semi-western).

Anyways, not many use eastern these days, as semi-western is a more versatile grip given how much topspin pros use these days.

Even James Blake, with his flat bombs, uses a western grip. I find, in my experiences (i dont if it counts for much), that spin is on tap if you use a loopy swing.

So western grips are more versitile because spin is "on-tap"?

LowProfile
06-30-2006, 08:43 PM
Even James Blake, with his flat bombs, uses a western grip. I find, in my experiences (i dont if it counts for much), that spin is on tap if you use a loopy swing.

So western grips are more versitile because spin is "on-tap"?

Blake uses western? I just remembered him. I thought he used a grip close to eastern. He certainly hits many forehands with a closed stance.

Bogie
06-30-2006, 09:33 PM
Even James Blake, with his flat bombs, uses a western grip. I find, in my experiences (i dont if it counts for much), that spin is on tap if you use a loopy swing.

So western grips are more versitile because spin is "on-tap"?

i have no idea where you got that from, but you are way off buddy. blake is no where near western. he's dead on semi.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/57635874.jpg

the only people that i can think of off the top of my head that use western in the top 50 are nadal, mathieu, ginepri, andreev, and djokovic is between western and semi-western.

eastern users are basically only henman and hrbaty. players like federer, nalbandian, scrichaphan, and hewitt are semi leaning towards eastern.

sanguinetti is the only continental user.

will1087
06-30-2006, 10:11 PM
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/ten/2003/0118/photo/blake_i.jpg

That is western right?

!Tym
06-30-2006, 10:31 PM
Players grips may look slightly different in various pictures so it can be very misleading. You can tell by the looks of their strokes as well. Blake to me is a dead-on example of a "classic" semi-western technique, Bruguera of a true western, Berasategui of a true "are you crazy!"

Bogie
06-30-2006, 10:41 PM
will, thats semi. you cant judge it by ball contact. check out fed, if u see when hes making contact it seems like hes more extreme than western because of racquet vibration. you have to judge it by what grip is beind held during the backswing. look at the pic that i posted. thats dead on semi, and thats what blake uses, no question.

KBalla08
06-30-2006, 10:58 PM
wait, what does federer use then? i thought he used eastern or semi western... idk though
edit: ok nvm this is what he uses...
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/19/open5_gallery__301x400.jpg

snoflewis
06-30-2006, 11:00 PM
just for the record...james blake uses a SEMI WESTERN.

as for Bogie, you might want to add hewitt and roddick into your list of top 50 players using western.

KBalla08
06-30-2006, 11:02 PM
http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/08/15/roddick_zoom.jpg
ya heres andys forehand

JayxTheKoolest
06-30-2006, 11:07 PM
Pete Sampras used an eastern grip and Fed uses a grip tat is between eastern and semi-western (althoguh it is a tad more eatsern than semiwestern).

Bogie
06-30-2006, 11:29 PM
neither hewitt nor roddick are full western. nor are they semi. theyre both in between, so it looks like a semi leaning towards western or western leaning towards semi, whichever way you want to put it. definitely not a semi, and def not a full western.

will1087
07-01-2006, 06:15 AM
i have no idea where you got that from, but you are way off buddy. blake is no where near western. he's dead on semi.


To be fair, my question was more to ask which way (western or eastern) did current players lean. Semi-western, to me, means western. ;)

emcee
07-01-2006, 07:54 AM
Yeah most players use semi-western, and a lot more use full western than eastern.

LowProfile
07-01-2006, 08:27 AM
To be fair, my question was more to ask which way (western or eastern) did current players lean. Semi-western, to me, means western. ;)

Semi-western is nothing like western. It's squarely in between eastern and western. Claiming that semi-western means western is not being fair and not using your head either. Both are necessary here.

There are a lot of western grip users in the top ranks of the ATP. Nadal, Robredo, Gaudio, Monfils, Haas, Coria, Andeev, Verdasco, Acasuso, Massu, Moya, Almagro, and Chela are all solidly western. And that's just among the top 50.

Hewitt is pretty squarely semi western while Roddick's grip is in between semi-western and full western (this is also true for Ferrero, Gonzalez, Kiefer, Ginepri, and many others).

Full western is a good deal more common that full eastern, especially because of the prevalence of claycourters in the top ranks of the ATP.

Andres
07-01-2006, 08:48 AM
i have no idea where you got that from, but you are way off buddy. blake is no where near western. he's dead on semi.
the only people that i can think of off the top of my head that use western in the top 50 are nadal, mathieu, ginepri, andreev, and djokovic is between western and semi-western.

eastern users are basically only henman and hrbaty. players like federer, nalbandian, scrichaphan, and hewitt are semi leaning towards eastern.

sanguinetti is the only continental user.
Coria, Gaudio and Acasuso also uses Western. Actually, Acasuso is more in between W and SW, but it's not pure SW.

Andres
07-01-2006, 08:50 AM
And.... LowProfile said it already, so my post is pointless :mrgreen:

will1087
07-01-2006, 10:03 AM
Semi-western is nothing like western. It's squarely in between eastern and western. Claiming that semi-western means western is not being fair and not using your head either. Both are necessary here.


Uh... you didnt have to insult me.

Bogie
07-01-2006, 12:57 PM
There are a lot of western grip users in the top ranks of the ATP. Nadal, Robredo, Gaudio, Monfils, Haas, Coria, Andeev, Verdasco, Acasuso, Massu, Moya, Almagro, and Chela are all solidly western. And that's just among the top 50.

actually your pretty off about most of the people you listed there. some waaaaaay off. most of the people you listed are not solidly western, some not even close.

coria is semi, very slightly leaning to in between
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/55708110.jpg
verdasco is dead on semi
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/57194252.jpg
i dont even know how you can up with haas was western but hes semi leaning towards eastern. same grip as fed.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/71226149.jpg

Bogie
07-01-2006, 12:58 PM
gaudio is square in between
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/71121205.jpg
moya is in between
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/71111055.jpg
same with robredo
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/71099155.jpg

Bogie
07-01-2006, 12:58 PM
acasuso is square in between
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/57655834.jpg
same with monfils
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/57604548.jpg
massu is dead on semi, right on top
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/57493238.jpg

nn
07-01-2006, 01:11 PM
acasuso is square in between
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/57655834.jpg
same with monfils
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/57604548.jpg
massu is dead on semi, right on top
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/57493238.jpg

cool pic bogie and you are right most of the pro are between semi or full western.. even myself in between and love it

also most of the pro has gap between palm and finger

Bogie
07-01-2006, 01:12 PM
Hewitt is pretty squarely semi western while Roddick's grip is in between semi-western and full western (this is also true for Ferrero, Gonzalez, Kiefer, Ginepri, and many others).

gonzalez is dead on semi
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/55747722.jpg
ginepri is full western though
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/53913885.jpg
heres another view of ginepri's full western
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Nadal1336/53305220.jpg