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Galactus
07-06-2006, 03:25 AM
One of the dullest I've seen. And I've seen the last 25.

Not only does Federer get the easy draw but the gulf between him, Nadal and rest of the field looks to be widening all the time.
#3 - Nalbandian
#4 - Ljubicic
#5 - Roddick
#7 - Blake
All these guys have the tools to perform perfectly well on grass and get to at least the Qtrs, but get waxed before the 1st weekend!?

SEMI-FINALS:
Federer v Bjorkman (Bjorkman? 34-yr old!!!)
Baghdatis v Niemenen or Nadal (Niemenen, for f#*ck's sake!?)

I pray for the sake of tennis that Nadal makes it to the final, I really do....

ED_4.6HSE
07-06-2006, 03:26 AM
I think its great bjorkman made the semis's, so what if he's 34?


I'd like to see nadal make the final as well, might make things interesting

superman1
07-06-2006, 03:28 AM
I really doubt Bjorkman was even expecting to get to the 2nd week. Bjorkman's main focus these days is double, and it's scary when a doubles player makes it to the semis in singles. But good for Bjorkman. These things happens. Sort of like Patrick McEnroe getting to the semis of the Australian Open.

Marat Safinator
07-06-2006, 03:32 AM
glad bjorkman made it to the semis and glad about niemenen. Hope nadal gets put out, he is too cocky.

rhubarb
07-06-2006, 03:37 AM
...
Not only does Federer get the easy draw but the gulf between him, Nadal and rest of the field looks to be widening all the time...

Federer got the easy draw? If Federer's was an easy draw, 1) I wouldn't like to see a hard draw, and 2) what do you call Nadal's draw - non-existent?

Roger may not have dropped a set, but that's not because he had a good draw. It's because his standard of play these last couple of weeks has been amazing.

Fedexeon
07-06-2006, 03:39 AM
Federer makes things seem so easy =)

whealben
07-06-2006, 03:49 AM
Federer got the easy draw? If Federer's was an easy draw, 1) I wouldn't like to see a hard draw, and 2) what do you call Nadal's draw - non-existent?

Roger may not have dropped a set, but that's not because he had a good draw. It's because his standard of play these last couple of weeks has been amazing.

Exactly.

:confused: I was wondering if the OP had watched Wimbledon? Both the quarter finals I watched were sensational, for different reasons. Roger was just simply sublime, Ancic never gave up. As a tennis lover you've got to watch in awe, surely. How does he make some of those shots?

Hewitt/Baghdatis was a great match as well. Not for the standard of tennis, but it had heart and passion.

I've watched some really boring matches at Wimby. :p Most of them women's non events. Yesterday was great, as has been most of the men's matches.
I'm restricting my viewing of the women to Clijsters, Henin-Hardennes and Hingis. I need earplugs for Sharapova.

Galactus
07-06-2006, 03:52 AM
Bjorkman got whre is cos the rest of the tops seeds didn't do ***** this year - a 34yr old guy 11-11 in the Wimbledon semis? Get real.

Niemenen - got to one Qtr in his entire 17-Slam-start career.

Federer must be quaking. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

ED_4.6HSE
07-06-2006, 04:05 AM
Federer must be quaking. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

yeah he'd really be quaking at the prospect of playing nalbandian, roddick, blake or hewitt!

Galactus
07-06-2006, 04:17 AM
yeah he'd really be quaking at the prospect of playing nalbandian, roddick, blake or hewitt!
But it's those guys who wouldn't have such a tough time themselves against Bjorkman or Niemenen.
I admit, Baghdatis and Nadal give Federer something to think about on any surface, but I doubt Federer will even warm-up for Bjorkman. :confused:

Anyway, Sunday's final prediction;
Federer straight-sets Nadal

jaggy
07-06-2006, 04:32 AM
Wimbledon has a history of weird players going far, Chris Lewis made the final!!!

Ztalin
07-06-2006, 04:43 AM
How did Federer get the easy draw? I'm hoping you're joking... and you probably are.

Galactus
07-06-2006, 05:40 AM
Wimbledon has a history of weird players going far, Chris Lewis made the final!!!
Lewis, Pioline, Washingston.
They are the 3 odd players out in the last 20-25 years.
And they won 23 games between them in the three easiest finals played.

Go figure.

ksbh
07-06-2006, 05:55 AM
Nothing about Nadal surprises me any more. I didn't think he had any chance at all of making it past the 3rd round. Now, he's 1 set away from the semi-final.

If Baghdatis beats Nadal in the semi-final, it'll be a straight set win for Fed in the final. If Nadal gets to the final against Fed, it's anything but straight sets. And I can't tell who'll win.

Federer straight-sets Nadal

ATXtennisaddict
07-06-2006, 05:58 AM
I actually want Nadal to make it to the final because I want to see Roger decimate him and embarass him to the point Nadal fans here stfu. Too many Nadal/Fed threads, it's so annoying. The other pros need some luving too.

armand
07-06-2006, 05:59 AM
SEMI-FINALS:
Federer v Bjorkman (Bjorkman? 34-yr old!!!)Whoa, guess you were really ****ed off to see a 35 yr old in a Slam final last year!

Janne
07-06-2006, 05:59 AM
Baghdatis v Niemenen or Nadal (Niemenen, for f#*ck's sake!?)

I pray for the sake of tennis that Nadal makes it to the final, I really do....

Hey! What's wrong with Jarko Nieminen? :P I´m glad a finnish guy got that far!
GO FINLAND, GO! :mrgreen:

Babblelot
07-06-2006, 06:18 AM
One of the dullest I've seen. And I've seen the last 25.

Not only does Federer get the easy draw but the gulf between him, Nadal and rest of the field looks to be widening all the time.
#3 - Nalbandian
#4 - Ljubicic
#5 - Roddick
#7 - Blake
All these guys have the tools to perform perfectly well on grass and get to at least the Qtrs, but get waxed before the 1st weekend!?

SEMI-FINALS:
Federer v Bjorkman (Bjorkman? 34-yr old!!!)
Baghdatis v Niemenen or Nadal (Niemenen, for f#*ck's sake!?)

I pray for the sake of tennis that Nadal makes it to the final, I really do....
Though I don't agree with everything you say, but yeah, even at the risk of getting Grimjack's panties in a bunch, this makes me want to revisit the "Who had better competition, Sampras or Federer?" thread.

Sounds like we're the same age.

You likely recall Borg-Connors-McEnroe-Lendl, followed by
Wilander-Edberg-Becker, followed by
Sampras-Agassi-Courier-Muster-Bruguera

Federer-Hewitt (sheer heart), Safin (unrealized potential), Roddick (joke), Nalbandian (fragile). By the time Nadal emerged as a legitimate rival, Federer had already won his 7th slam.

'Effing WEEEEEK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Breaker
07-06-2006, 06:58 AM
I actually want Nadal to make it to the final because I want to see Roger decimate him and embarass him to the point Nadal fans here stfu. Too many Nadal/Fed threads, it's so annoying. The other pros need some luving too.

And you think Fed "decimating" Nadal would solve these Nadal/Federer threads..The only way the other pros are going to get noticed is if Bjorkman and Baghdatis can win over them.

Galactus
07-06-2006, 07:16 AM
Whoa, guess you were really ****ed off to see a 35 yr old in a Slam final last year!
A 35-yr old Hall Of Famer. http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/images/smilies/nono.gif

Galactus
07-06-2006, 07:17 AM
Hey! What's wrong with Jarko Nieminen?
Apart from being an incredibly dull tennis player, nothing...
I'm sure he's a nice guy...

Galactus
07-06-2006, 07:19 AM
Though I don't agree with everything you say, but yeah, even at the risk of getting Grimjack's panties in a bunch, this makes me want to revisit the "Who had better competition, Sampras or Federer?" thread.

Sounds like we're the same age.

You likely recall Borg-Connors-McEnroe-Lendl, followed by
Wilander-Edberg-Becker, followed by
Sampras-Agassi-Courier-Muster-Bruguera

Federer-Hewitt (sheer heart), Safin (unrealized potential), Roddick (joke), Nalbandian (fragile). By the time Nadal emerged as a legitimate rival, Federer had already won his 7th slam.

'Effing WEEEEEK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Nadal doesn't make it to the final on Sunday, it will be the equivalent of McEnroe - Lewis or Sampras - Pioline.

kicker75
07-06-2006, 07:44 AM
Federer with an easy draw? You gotta be kidding. Federer is so good he made getting through the draw look easy, but it was hardly an easy draw. The way Ancic played the other day, he would have beaten many players, but he still lost (badly I might add).

...and Wimby has not been boring IMO:

Federer - always fun to watch, particularly on grass.
Bjorkman - you gotta love the aging underdog ready to play maybe one last big match
Baghdatis - this guy is so passionate, even when he loses
Nadal - (ok, I think his game is boring) but he's proven to an extent that he can play on any surface (though true - he did get a very easy draw)

If Federer meets Nadal in the final, that's entertainment since they just played in the FO. It would create a sort of "ok...you beat me in your house... now see if you can beat me in mine"...and that's entertainment.

EclipseRydr97
07-06-2006, 07:47 AM
One of the dullest I've seen. And I've seen the last 25.

Not only does Federer get the easy draw but the gulf between him, Nadal and rest of the field looks to be widening all the time.
#3 - Nalbandian
#4 - Ljubicic
#5 - Roddick
#7 - Blake
All these guys have the tools to perform perfectly well on grass and get to at least the Qtrs, but get waxed before the 1st weekend!?

SEMI-FINALS:
Federer v Bjorkman (Bjorkman? 34-yr old!!!)
Baghdatis v Niemenen or Nadal (Niemenen, for f#*ck's sake!?)

I pray for the sake of tennis that Nadal makes it to the final, I really do....


I don't think you would have said that right before Wimbledon started. I think Federer had a relatively tough draw, he just dominated his opponents and made it seem like an easier time.

safinlives
07-06-2006, 07:58 AM
federer got an easy draw?? i guess richard gasquet in the FIRST ROUND was pretty easy, then tim henman, a veteran grass-courter who has finally found his game again, that was easy too i guess?? then berdych, the 13 seed, that was no walk in the park either. and then federer had to play ancic, carrying the mental burden that he has in fact lost to ancic before, and that was not going to be easy. federer had many tests, mentally and physically throughout wimbledon, so i would love to see a "hard" draw...

Eviscerator
07-06-2006, 07:58 AM
One of the dullest I've seen. And I've seen the last 25.

Not only does Federer get the easy draw
I pray for the sake of tennis that Nadal makes it to the final, I really do....

Two comments on your OP. First, Federer did not get anywhere near an "easy draw" compared to Nadals half. Maybe you meant to say Nadal got the easy draw?
Second, if Nadal does make the finals, and considering who the players still in it are, it will be an indictment of how much Wimbledon tampered with the courts/balls.

Nike Man
07-06-2006, 07:58 AM
of course if Federer meets Nadal in the final he eeeasssily has the game to beat rafa but its the mental side that might possibly let him down. Feds might not believe he can beat Nadal and the French Open experience might come back to him, causing self doubt and shanked shots. I still think Feds will win in 4 sets though! Nadal will win the first one in a tiebreak but federer will then get his act together.....

Moose Malloy
07-06-2006, 08:40 AM
The fact that Bjorkman (overall a career journeyman) can make the semis of Wimbledon, shows how low the standard of play on grass has sunk.
Bjorkman has basically been a doubles specialist the last few years.
He was ranked outside the top 100 a year ago(at the age of 33)
He hasn't miraculously gotten younger, better over the last year(still plays the same way) to get to the W semifinals.
The comparison to Agassi at 35+ is absurd since they were never in the same ball park as players.

Nadal is coming to net more that Federer for pete's sake. I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.

ACE of Hearts
07-06-2006, 08:50 AM
If Nadal is holding the wimbledon trophy come sunday, i will be disgusted!!!!:mad: All the pressure is on Roger to let Nadal know who the king of grass is!!!

VamosRafa
07-06-2006, 08:58 AM
federer got an easy draw?? i guess richard gasquet in the FIRST ROUND was pretty easy, then tim henman, a veteran grass-courter who has finally found his game again, that was easy too i guess?? then berdych, the 13 seed, that was no walk in the park either. and then federer had to play ancic, carrying the mental burden that he has in fact lost to ancic before, and that was not going to be easy. federer had many tests, mentally and physically throughout wimbledon, so i would love to see a "hard" draw...

Berdych can be a tough player, but Roger had the psychological edge after beating him in Halle.

And as for Ancic, ditto. He did beat Federer years ago, but it was so long ago that most of you have forgotten that the year after that Nadal beat him -- at Wimbledon.

And Federer beat him at RG, so it wasn't as if he had no confidence going into that match.

It was a tougher draw that Nadal's, granted -- but a piece of cake for Fed.

atac
07-06-2006, 09:06 AM
Hope nadal gets put out, he is too cocky.

No, he is not cocky, he just speaks the truth. Like Federer does.

wimble10
07-06-2006, 09:12 AM
Lewis, Pioline, Washingston.
They are the 3 odd players out in the last 20-25 years.
And they won 23 games between them in the three easiest finals played.

Go figure.

Pioline made it to the finals of the US Open, again losing to Sampras.

alienhamster
07-06-2006, 09:28 AM
Berdych can be a tough player, but Roger had the psychological edge after beating him in Halle.

And as for Ancic, ditto. He did beat Federer years ago, but it was so long ago that most of you have forgotten that the year after that Nadal beat him -- at Wimbledon.

And Federer beat him at RG, so it wasn't as if he had no confidence going into that match.

It was a tougher draw that Nadal's, granted -- but a piece of cake for Fed. Which quarter wouldn't have been a piece of cake for Fed? *Maybe* the Hewitt/Roddick quarter, but those guys both played WAY under their grass-court level this year.

Y'all shouldn't knock Bjorkman so much. In that quarter, he truly might be the best grass court player at present. (Nalbandian and Blake are too inconsistent.)

I agree with the others that if we want a good final, everyone better root for Nadal tomorrow. As much as I like Bagdhatis, you have to admit that Nadal is the only real test for Federer on any surface.

I dunno--I think these semis are going to be interesting tomorrow. Is everyone assuming this Wimbledon is "bad" simply because the big servers or top seeds or other grass types aren't the usual suspects this time around?

Moose Malloy
07-06-2006, 09:38 AM
In that quarter, he truly might be the best grass court player at present

which doesn't say much about todays players, huh?

KBalla08
07-06-2006, 09:42 AM
ugh im sick of the nadal/federer stuff, i want to see Bags vs Fed, repeat of the AO final. Bags is playing really well right now, and i think he'll beat Nadal

ACE of Hearts
07-06-2006, 09:43 AM
If u dont like wimbledon then dont watch it.Turn it off.The only reason it has been dissapointing is because of the major flops like Roddick, Nalbandian, etc.There have been alot of dissapointing wimbledons in the 90s as well.

verker-er
07-06-2006, 09:44 AM
Galactus you are a joke - Have you forgotten Vladimir Voltchkov????

fastdunn
07-06-2006, 10:03 AM
Let's not count out Baghdatis yet. As Gilbert said, he may be 3rd
best player in the world right now. The guy's A game can take out
anybody.

BabolatFan
07-06-2006, 11:37 AM
One of the dullest I've seen. And I've seen the last 25.

Not only does Federer get the easy draw but the gulf between him, Nadal and rest of the field looks to be widening all the time.
#3 - Nalbandian
#4 - Ljubicic
#5 - Roddick
#7 - Blake
All these guys have the tools to perform perfectly well on grass and get to at least the Qtrs, but get waxed before the 1st weekend!?

SEMI-FINALS:
Federer v Bjorkman (Bjorkman? 34-yr old!!!)
Baghdatis v Niemenen or Nadal (Niemenen, for f#*ck's sake!?)

I pray for the sake of tennis that Nadal makes it to the final, I really do....

Easy draw for Federer? Sure Nadal beat all top seeds on his way to semi's. :rolleyes: As far as I can recall Nadal only played one top seed who's Jarkko besides some other qualifiers?

fishuuuuu
07-06-2006, 12:24 PM
I actually want Nadal to make it to the final because I want to see Roger decimate him and embarass him to the point Nadal fans here stfu. Too many Nadal/Fed threads, it's so annoying. The other pros need some luving too.

I don't really comment these type of threads, so just an observation here. If (when) Nadal loses to any player for the remainder of the tournament, the Nadal fans, will, no doubt will be crying that he should have won it if not for his lack of experience, or some other bull****. Likewise, for the Federer fans, citing his poor backhand or otherwise.

The tennis guy
07-06-2006, 01:06 PM
People get hysterical. Once in a while, someone unexpected gets to a slam semifinal. Suddenly the sky is falling, the tournament is terrible, the play is terrible.

It happens only once every a few years. What can you generalize from this? Nothing! It is random. If it happens every year, the it tells you something.

Galactus
07-06-2006, 01:08 PM
People get hysterical. Once in a while, someone unexpected gets to a slam semifinal. Suddenly the sky is falling, the tournament is terrible, the play is terrible.

It happens only once every a few years. What can you generalize from this? Nothing! It is random. If it happens every year, the it tells you something...
The talent pool on the men´s side is fu!kcing garbage.
Besides Federer, Nadal, Baghdatis and maybe Hewitt, they all suck. During a rain delay they summed up the 92 Wimbledon tourney quarterfinals with Sampras, Agassi, Ivanisevic, McEnroe, Becker, Stich, Edberg and Forget. Seven former winner, this year Nieminen, Stepanek, Anicic, Björkman, Nadal, Bagdhatis, Hewitt and Federer. I wouldn´t pick a single guy besides Federer to beat any of those players.

Too many juniors on this forum who reckon they know what's going on and they know jack *****.

The tennis guy
07-06-2006, 01:38 PM
...you might be right.
I'm over-reacting.

Moderators, close the thread.

Good. I am glad you agree.

People complained about no depth in men's tennis now because top 4 seeds got to French Open final 4 last month. Now, we have a surprise, then suddenly the top players are crap.

Galactus
07-06-2006, 01:40 PM
Good. I am glad you agree.

People complained about no depth in men's tennis now because top 4 seeds got to French Open final 4 last month. Now, we have a surprise, then suddenly the top players are crap.
I changed my mind.
:cool: :mrgreen:

The tennis guy
07-06-2006, 01:44 PM
The talent pool on the men´s side is fu!kcing garbage.
Besides Federer, Nadal, Baghdatis and maybe Hewitt, they all suck. During a rain delay they summed up the 92 Wimbledon tourney quarterfinals with Sampras, Agassi, Ivanisevic, McEnroe, Becker, Stich, Edberg and Forget. Seven former winner, this year Nieminen, Stepanek, Anicic, Björkman, Nadal, Bagdhatis, Hewitt and Federer. I wouldn´t pick a single guy besides Federer to beat any of those players.

Too many juniors on this forum who reckon they know what's going on and they know jack *****.

We also had Pioline and Washington in the final, didn't we? Maybe only one year out of 100 when 7 former winners were in quarters. Does that mean the tour talent pool sucked every year?

rhubarb
07-06-2006, 01:49 PM
During a rain delay they summed up the 92 Wimbledon tourney quarterfinals with Sampras, Agassi, Ivanisevic, McEnroe, Becker, Stich, Edberg and Forget. Seven former winner, this year Nieminen, Stepanek, Anicic, Björkman, Nadal, Bagdhatis, Hewitt and Federer.

Slightly unfair comparison though - it's easy to look back. At the time how many former winners were there in the 92 quarters? Becker, Edberg, Stich and McEnroe.

Who knows - maybe Baghdatis, Ancic and Nadal will win in the future.

Moose Malloy
07-06-2006, 02:02 PM
Slightly unfair comparison though - it's easy to look back. At the time how many former winners were there in the 92 quarters? Becker, Edberg, Stich and McEnroe.

Who knows - maybe Baghdatis, Ancic and Nadal will win in the future.

c'mon, rhubarb, the '92 field was much better not just hindsight. 4 former winners is a lot more than 2 this year.
Plus in '92 Sampras & Ivanisevic were 2 of the favorites that year, they were considered sure things as far as being future W champs. A lot of realistic contenders for the title that year.
And Forget was a dangerous top 10 player on grass, if he won it that year it wouldn't have been a surprise. And yet many here think there wasn't depth back then.

Nieminen, Stepanek, & Bjorkman aren't in any of those guys leagues. All are very lucky they are playing today.

Galactus
07-07-2006, 03:16 AM
c'mon, rhubarb, the '92 field was much better not just hindsight. 4 former winners is a lot more than 2 this year.
Plus in '92 Sampras & Ivanisevic were 2 of the favorites that year, they were considered sure things as far as being future W champs. A lot of realistic contenders for the title that year.
And Forget was a dangerous top 10 player on grass, if he won it that year it wouldn't have been a surprise. And yet many here think there wasn't depth back then.

Nieminen, Stepanek, & Bjorkman aren't in any of those guys leagues. All are very lucky they are playing today.
Nieminen, Stepanek, & Bjorkman got this far cos the rest of the field, bar Federer and Nadal is 'lottery-esque'.

Rhino
07-07-2006, 03:30 AM
Wimbledon has a history of weird players going far, Chris Lewis made the final!!!
Hey ease off, Chris Lewis was the man!

I have enjoyed this Wimbledon immensely, there have been some great matches and incredible tennis so far, and we still have baghdatis vs nadal and the possibility of a Fed vs nadal final, this couldn't be better! The jonas bjorkman story is brilliant, I've never seen someone so happy to win!
Of course many Americans will see this Wimbledon as being dull, but for those people it's not about the tennis, it's about nationality and patriotism, and I don't need to see Roddick being humiliated in the final for a third time in a row.
People will go on about the courts being too slow, just as they went on about it when the courts were faster, people always have to moan.
This is the fourth straight grand slam I have attended, and I always thought it would be hard to beat the fun I had at the US Open 2005, but this is right up there.

mowcopian
07-07-2006, 03:32 AM
wimbledon has still been good this year, we have seen nadals dertermination to succeed on this surface, a 34 yr old in the semis and very possibly a 1 and 2 mens final between nadal and federer.

Galactus
07-07-2006, 07:34 AM
wimbledon has still been good this year, we have seen nadals dertermination to succeed on this surface, a 34 yr old in the semis and very possibly a 1 and 2 mens final between nadal and federer.
Bjorkman getting to the semi's was good???
I'm sure the crowd got their money's worth....

127mph
07-07-2006, 10:02 AM
One of the dullest I've seen. And I've seen the last 25.

Not only does Federer get the easy draw but the gulf between him, Nadal and rest of the field looks to be widening all the time.
#3 - Nalbandian
#4 - Ljubicic
#5 - Roddick
#7 - Blake
All these guys have the tools to perform perfectly well on grass and get to at least the Qtrs, but get waxed before the 1st weekend!?

SEMI-FINALS:
Federer v Bjorkman (Bjorkman? 34-yr old!!!)
Baghdatis v Niemenen or Nadal (Niemenen, for f#*ck's sake!?)

I pray for the sake of tennis that Nadal makes it to the final, I really do....


i too am disappointed but opposite from you. because of all those guys lost nadal is in the finals. all those guys were in nadals half and would have taken him. and federers draw was hard and made them all look like bums.

Stinkdyr
07-07-2006, 10:45 AM
You gotsta be Shyting me! Patty McEnroe made it to the semi's of ANY tournament????????? wow.

VamosRafa
07-07-2006, 10:50 AM
You gotsta be Shyting me! Patty McEnroe made it to the semi's of ANY tournament????????? wow.

I think his best result in singles was quarters at the AO. That's what I recall.

urban
07-07-2006, 11:14 AM
Fed and Nadal are great players, no doubt. But now we have a measure stick to evaluate the other top tenners, because now two players are dominating in all kinds of surfaces. Both go through te draw like hot butter especially on grass, virtually without losing a set. I cannot remember another era, where the Nr.3-10 were so weak. OK. there were Laver-Rosewall, Mac-Borg, Lendl-Becker, but they all had to fight sometimes on the way to get into a final. Now its a real cakewalk, they don't even get tired after RG. If Nadal would not have been injured at AO, make it 3 or 4 finals with same opponents this year. I hope, that at least on hard court, some guys wake up like Safin, Berdych or Roddick. They all seem to deconstruct themselves.

ShooterMcMarco
07-07-2006, 11:19 AM
Even though the courts are slower than they ever were before, I'm still impressed with what Nadal has done at Wimby. Him and Fed are truly in a league of their own.