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diegaa
07-12-2006, 07:08 AM
Mariano Puerta will come back to the ATP tour on june 2007. The ban, taking place from june 2005, has been reduced 6 years after his appeal.
Good news for him. :)

pound cat
07-12-2006, 07:16 AM
Good. Then the tournaments who recently have had a clip of Puerta in their promo will be able to keep running them LOL

Marat Safinator
07-12-2006, 07:21 AM
are you serious ?

Marat Safinator
07-12-2006, 07:22 AM
where did you hear this, wheres the link

babbette
07-12-2006, 07:53 AM
Yay! The ATP palyers are in trouble now.:D

BluDiamond
07-12-2006, 08:01 AM
come on puerta, maybe he will be able to beat Nadal when he comes back...NOT...but he might do quite well

Ronaldo
07-12-2006, 08:03 AM
come on puerta, maybe he will be able to beat Nadal when he comes back...NOT...but he might do quite well
Without the Juice????????? NOT!!!!!!!!!

diegaa
07-12-2006, 08:03 AM
here for example
http://www.topix.net/tennis/mariano-puerta

or here (in spanish): http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/07/12/um/m-01232401.htm

Nike Man
07-12-2006, 08:04 AM
Why are you pleased that a player who took drugs TWICE is getting a shorter ban?

diegaa
07-12-2006, 08:08 AM
Why are you pleased that a player who took drugs TWICE is getting a shorter ban?

because it was proved that he didnt get an advantage from it. and because you get a good player on the tour again. and because a human being could return to do what he loves.
enough?

Lakoste
07-12-2006, 08:09 AM
When he was first banned I thought that he was saying the medicine was for his asthma? Maybe I got him confused with another? Now he's saying he mixed medicine bottles with his wife:rolleyes: I dont want to say I'm disappointed that it was cut to only 2 years, but I dont like how the ATP initially gave him the 8 year ban and they thought they were all tough when it came to banned substances, then only gave him 1/4 of what he deserved

Nike Man
07-12-2006, 08:10 AM
drugs in sport is wrong! end of story

Mr.Federer
07-12-2006, 09:06 AM
Good. Then the tournaments who recently have had a clip of Puerta in their promo will be able to keep running them LOL


lol...cough... tsn...cough

diegaa
07-12-2006, 09:36 AM
Guillermo Vilas: "Im glad that they reduced the ban. It had been an excessive one and it was unfair that Mariano ended his career that way. It is an important precedent".

grimpi
07-12-2006, 03:29 PM
It's the same that canas. There is a problem in ATP

textbook strokes
07-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Two years of suspention is enough punishment for anything he could have done. Eigth years is too cruel. Come on Mariano!!

croatian sensation
07-12-2006, 04:36 PM
because it was proved that he didnt get an advantage from it. and because you get a good player on the tour again. and because a human being could return to do what he loves.
enough?

Ditto.

I'm glad he'll be back.

Woodstock_Tennis
07-12-2006, 04:42 PM
I'm also glad he'll be back, eight years is to long. I wouldn't even ban players for doping, just hefty fines and let the public know he failed a drug test.

Marat Safinator
07-12-2006, 04:58 PM
Does this mean he'll be back in time for the french open?

Marat Safinator
07-12-2006, 05:05 PM
no...to answer my own question

LeftyServe
07-12-2006, 05:18 PM
Under any fair system, Puerta would be reinstated immediately. As in the case with Canas, the CAS found "no significant fault or negligence" in Puerta's unknowing ingestion of a tiny amount of a banned substance that is used mainly as a supplemental treatment for high blood pressure and priapism, not a cheat's drug at all. It's clear from the CAS opinion that his accidental ingestion of the drug gave him no advantage whatsoever, so the punishment is not for "doping," but for being not as careful as he could be. Is it fair to take away a man's livelihood on this basis? I say no. Meanwhile, people such as some of the posters above talk about "juice" and "drugs in sport is wrong," without really knowing the facts. Zero tolerance is for tyrants, not reasonable people.

hoosierbr
07-12-2006, 05:27 PM
The only problem I have with Puerta is that this is the second time he was suspended because of "negligence." Not necessarily fault or an intent to cheat but for being careless. You would have thought he'd have learned his lesson the first time and been more careful. He's either the unluckiest guy in tennis or the most careless.

As for Canas I don't have a problem with him per se but again given all that's been going on with doping and sanctions the last couple of years you'd think he'd have checked to make sure he was being given what he was supposed to, especially since he was in a foreign country. Granted it came from the medical staff and that's not his fault but still you can never be too cautious nowadays.

With all of this it makes me wonder what would have happened to Petr Korda had the various panels and tribunals been as careful and forgiving as they are today.

RiosTheGenius
07-12-2006, 07:00 PM
drugs in sport is wrong! end of story
it wasn't intentional in his case

doriancito
07-12-2006, 07:01 PM
who wins....puerta or federer in clay?

superman1
07-12-2006, 07:16 PM
What was the explanation in this case? That he drank out of a glass that his wife took a medication out of? Who drinks out of a used glass?

Max G.
07-12-2006, 07:37 PM
who wins....puerta or federer in clay?

...um, Federer? Nobody besides Nadal can touch Fed right now.

Max G.
07-12-2006, 07:38 PM
What was the explanation in this case? That he drank out of a glass that his wife took a medication out of? Who drinks out of a used glass?

Someone who gets up at night, is staying in a hotel and thus doesn't really know where the cups are, and thus just takes whatever's on the table.

diegaa
07-12-2006, 07:39 PM
...um, Federer? Nobody besides Nadal can touch Fed right now.
I think he was being sarchastic...;)

doriancito
07-12-2006, 07:40 PM
...um, Federer? Nobody besides Nadal can touch Fed right now.
remember puerta got to French Open Final.....

diegaa
07-12-2006, 07:41 PM
Someone who gets up at night, is staying in a hotel and thus doesn't really know where the cups are, and thus just takes whatever's on the table.

Besides, it was his wife´s for crying out loud! not some "used" glass by a unknown guy.
Havent you, superman, drunk from a shared-by-your-mates bottle of water?
Your point is very silly.

diegaa
07-12-2006, 07:42 PM
remember puerta got to French Open Final.....
ok, you werent being sarchastic after all........ :rolleyes:

zorg
07-12-2006, 07:57 PM
Mariano Puerta will come back to the ATP tour on june 2007. The ban, taking place from june 2005, has been reduced 6 years after his appeal.
Good news for him. :)
Forgive me for missing something...but last time I checked 2005-2007 is only 2 years. You said 6...

Andres
07-12-2006, 08:23 PM
I think Puerta gave Nadal more trouble than Federer in the FO final.
I'm glad he'll be back, but I think he is a moron, and he needs to take care of things more carefully now (the words of an angry fan) :)

Andres
07-12-2006, 08:24 PM
Forgive me for missing something...but last time I checked 2005-2007 is only 2 years. You said 6...
REDUCED 6 years. Eight years of the original ban - Two years left = Reduction of 6 years.

Yes, you were missing something, the meaning of the sentence.

diegaa
07-13-2006, 05:11 AM
Forgive me for missing something...but last time I checked 2005-2007 is only 2 years. You said 6...

Andres answered for me.

Yes, you were missing something, the meaning of the sentence.



jeje, me "cabió" tu respuesta. :mrgreen:

Marat Safinator
07-13-2006, 05:15 AM
ok, you werent being sarchastic after all........ :rolleyes:

Im not being sarcastic, puerta would win.

diegaa
07-13-2006, 05:53 AM
Im not being sarcastic, puerta would win.

I wasnt talking about you MS. :)

Marat Safinator
07-13-2006, 06:12 AM
I know, but im not being sarcastic. puerta would win.

Mr.Federer
07-13-2006, 10:13 AM
remember puerta got to French Open Final.....


because he was doped...did you ever hear about Mariano Puerta before the 05 french open?

Tchocky
07-13-2006, 11:02 AM
I'm glad his 8 year suspension was reduced to 2 years. 8 years was just too punitive and excessive. I won't be surprised if he gets busted again.

Andres
07-13-2006, 01:10 PM
because he was doped...did you ever hear about Mariano Puerta before the 05 french open?
I did... for a long time...
We southies know our players, probably Dorian knew him as well ;)

Marat Safinator
07-13-2006, 02:10 PM
because he was doped...did you ever hear about Mariano Puerta before the 05 french open?

yes. I believe he was just ranked out the top 10 some years ago.

HotCarl
07-13-2006, 04:46 PM
Under any fair system, Puerta would be reinstated immediately. As in the case with Canas, the CAS found "no significant fault or negligence" in Puerta's unknowing ingestion of a tiny amount of a banned substance that is used mainly as a supplemental treatment for high blood pressure and priapism, not a cheat's drug at all.

Priapism huh? Look up what that condition means. Maybe Puerta had an incident and was too embarrased to admit it.:mrgreen:

brucie
07-14-2006, 07:47 AM
I dont know what to say hes been caught cheating twice. Why let him back hes probably as drugged up as ever with huge strength etc etc.

But then I felt sorry for himn when I heard his ban was so long it would destroy his career so maybe im glad hes given a 3rd chance.

3rd chance what am I saying thats ridiculous! 3RD what. Oh well sounds crazy " now this is your 3rd chance for abusing drugs, if you do it again!"

maverick66
07-14-2006, 08:06 AM
another guy gets caught blames it on something stupid and gets away with it. he juiced everyone knows it. who from argentina hasnt. almost all of the the argentine players have taken something so y do we feel bad for someone who knew the rule and broke it. I dont care if someone took something by mistake your a professional athlete u should know every thing ur taking.

brucie
07-14-2006, 08:08 AM
another guy gets caught blames it on something stupid and gets away with it. he juiced everyone knows it. who from argentina hasnt. almost all of the the argentine players have taken something so y do we feel bad for someone who knew the rule and broke it. I dont care if someone took something by mistake your a professional athlete u should know every thing ur taking.
Harsh yet possibly true words, however havent doctors been known to give players banned substances and sharing glasses once caused another player to test positive, dont remember who this was.

croatian sensation
07-14-2006, 10:24 AM
another guy gets caught blames it on something stupid and gets away with it. he juiced everyone knows it. who from argentina hasnt. almost all of the the argentine players have taken something so y do we feel bad for someone who knew the rule and broke it. I dont care if someone took something by mistake your a professional athlete u should know every thing ur taking.

Ah another ****** on the board. Welcome!

Simon Cowell
07-14-2006, 10:45 AM
The ban should not have been reduced. This just sends a message that you can dope and get away with it. I wouldn't be surprised if Puerta is scoring dope off of that cokehead Maradona. Even if Puerta does somehow have future success, it will always be tarnished.

Warriorroger
07-14-2006, 11:06 AM
because it was proved that he didnt get an advantage from it. and because you get a good player on the tour again. and because a human being could return to do what he loves.
enough?

No it's not good enough. They get tons of money for hitting a ball, is it then too much too ask to be a role model for the mortals who watch them.

diegaa
07-14-2006, 11:43 AM
The ban should not have been reduced. This just sends a message that you can dope and get away with it. I wouldn't be surprised if Puerta is scoring dope off of that cokehead Maradona. Even if Puerta does somehow have future success, it will always be tarnished.


I guess you are the one who is coke-doped. You are pityful.

diegaa
07-14-2006, 11:46 AM
No it's not good enough. They get tons of money for hitting a ball, is it then too much too ask to be a role model for the mortals who watch them.

Yes, it is. They didnt ask to be role models, so why should they be paying teh price because "others" sayed they are. You talk about money for "hitting the ball"... dont you have a better point?

Andres
07-14-2006, 12:33 PM
another guy gets caught blames it on something stupid and gets away with it. he juiced everyone knows it. who from argentina hasnt. almost all of the the argentine players have taken something so y do we feel bad for someone who knew the rule and broke it. I dont care if someone took something by mistake your a professional athlete u should know every thing ur taking.
Oh well... these morons never stop coming here...
As CroSen already said, welcome to the board... and my personal advice: Drop dead ;)

tennisprofl
07-14-2006, 12:56 PM
I think Puerta got off easy...the ATP should've made a ban and stuck with it. Changing the ban is not good for the ATP because other steroid people will appeal their decision.

Marat Safinator
07-14-2006, 03:07 PM
The ban should not have been reduced. This just sends a message that you can dope and get away with it. I wouldn't be surprised if Puerta is scoring dope off of that cokehead Maradona. Even if Puerta does somehow have future success, it will always be tarnished.

I dont care of your opinion. you are a homosexual who is in love with rafael nadal to the extreme.

Warriorroger
07-15-2006, 05:43 AM
Yes, it is. They didnt ask to be role models, so why should they be paying teh price because "others" sayed they are. You talk about money for "hitting the ball"... dont you have a better point?

Yes I do, your players are mostly dope winners.

baros
07-15-2006, 06:37 AM
he will be way to old anyway and without any real matchplay he will suck.
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helloworld
07-15-2006, 11:22 AM
Puerta who ???

maverick66
07-15-2006, 04:11 PM
i find it funny 2 people take shots at me for speaking truth about players from argentina if they dont want to get made fun of for dopping them dont. canas,coria,chela, and puerta all have been caught. im sure its not the only country i know people from all over that have taken illegal stuff.

Saito
07-15-2006, 04:23 PM
because he was doped...did you ever hear about Mariano Puerta before the 05 french open?

I have... seen him play live before and after suspension(edit: his 1st suspension). The guy has a great game. Clearly he has bad luck as someone said earlier. Has a little nasty attitude too, but he does have the skills. That is apparent. Read the article before making your accusations. It clearly says the substance found isn't even used to enhance performance....

Marat Safinator
07-15-2006, 04:40 PM
Puerta who ???

puerta nobody. his surname is puerta. mariano puerta.

Bichigo
07-15-2006, 05:05 PM
I have... seen him play live before and after suspension. The guy has a great game. Clearly he has bad luck as someone said earlier. Has a little nasty attitude too, but he does have the skills. That is apparent. Read the article before making your accusations. It clearly says the substance found isn't even used to enhance performance....

http://www.hi-upload.com/uploaded1/arafat.JPG

diegaa
07-15-2006, 07:05 PM
http://www.hi-upload.com/uploaded1/arafat.JPG
what is the point of your post? :|

nadalgirl26
07-15-2006, 07:11 PM
That makes me so mad. he tried to steal the french title from sweet and sexy Nadal by using drugs and cheating. My heart would have been broken if sweet Nadal was robbed of the title he worked so hard for by a cheater like Puker Puerta.

diegaa
07-15-2006, 07:14 PM
i find it funny 2 people take shots at me for speaking truth about players from argentina if they dont want to get made fun of for dopping them dont. canas,coria,chela, and puerta all have been caught. im sure its not the only country i know people from all over that have taken illegal stuff.

You forgot to add a few more. But there are many ways to stand by your point. And yours was one of the most the unrespectful ones.

Marat Safinator
07-16-2006, 01:09 PM
That makes me so mad. he tried to steal the french title from sweet and sexy Nadal by using drugs and cheating. My heart would have been broken if sweet Nadal was robbed of the title he worked so hard for by a cheater like Puker Puerta.

sweet and sexy? I didnt know pig was a desert dish.

maverick66
07-16-2006, 04:26 PM
You forgot to add a few more. But there are many ways to stand by your point. And yours was one of the most the unrespectful ones.

so calling me an ******* is respectful. a little bit of a hipocrite

diegaa
07-16-2006, 05:22 PM
i didnt call you nothing. besides, you started the whole thing with your offensive posting. a piece of advise, dont post here any longer. you r far from being welcame.

wyutani
07-16-2006, 06:38 PM
i assume puerta is coming back becos he's left-handed and they aint too many out there now...;)

Andres
07-17-2006, 12:38 AM
i assume puerta is coming back becos he's left-handed and they aint too many out there now...;)
Yut! Are you a power baseliner with a two handed backhand now!!??
What happened? :D

brucie
07-17-2006, 06:07 AM
Yut! Are you a power baseliner with a two handed backhand now!!??
What happened? :D

It appears so, "a baseliner who specialises in doubles!" sorry wyutani i like your comments much and am not taking mick but seems strange.

wyutani
07-21-2006, 09:00 PM
Yut! Are you a power baseliner with a two handed backhand now!!??
What happened? :D

cos my volley is pretty bad...having a super serve alone is not enuf...geez~ bad luck...

Andres
07-21-2006, 09:32 PM
cos my volley is pretty bad...having a super serve alone is not enuf...geez~ bad luck...
But no Scud Serve in your signature anymore!! Where has the super serve gone? :mrgreen: