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kerplunker
07-24-2006, 08:43 PM
No...Not his Dunlop/Prince Racket!!! The new one Prince is making for him...I am hoping Prince is making something nice to release to the public and for James Blakes use...But does anyone know what it will be?? (I am hoping a Hybrid Tour with 18x20 Pattern!!!)

Nadal-inator
07-24-2006, 08:45 PM
I dont know but some guy posted that blake gave his prince O3 to his coach? doesnt sound right

kerplunker
07-24-2006, 08:49 PM
Maybe his coach liked it...and wanted it?

Nadal-inator
07-24-2006, 08:52 PM
possibly, but highly doubt it...I mean Blake probably isnt comfortable with the new prince then...but no new word on his racquets...but I did read some article that said Prince said Blake isnt used to the O-ports...probably on this forum but I will try to llok it up

mca10spro
07-24-2006, 08:58 PM
Guillermo Coria also used a Prince racquet labeled Experimental during the Masters-cup in Houston in 2003 & 2004. Coria uses that Prince Graphite, whatever the latest edition is to that racquet. As far as Blake, who knows.

They could change it around for him according to what his feedback is.

See ya on the courts,

Mike

TheSneakerologist
07-30-2006, 01:06 AM
Um the experimental line was referring to the nxg... Coria uses an o3 tour or a POG, of which im not sure because coria is garbage anyways. Does anyone kno when the Prince blake is coming out?

Duzza
07-30-2006, 01:19 AM
(I am hoping a Hybrid Tour with 18x20 Pattern!!!)
You obviously know :P
I think its called the Prince Hybrid Tour, 95 inch, 18x20 i'm pretty sure because that's what Blake uses if i read correctly.

kerplunker
07-30-2006, 08:59 AM
You obviously know :P
I think its called the Prince Hybrid Tour, 95 inch, 18x20 i'm pretty sure because that's what Blake uses if i read correctly.
Haha, no I swear I didnt know thats just what I was hoping for. Anyone have an idea on weight and balence and what about looks? what colors and such. I don't like the idea of hybriding on the 3 and 9 because to put lead tape on that is a *****.....

bsandy
07-30-2006, 09:37 AM
James is using a dunlop racquet that has been painted black. I handled his sticks in Indy. He had one strung a day at 68.

TennisProPaul
07-30-2006, 09:42 AM
No...Not his Dunlop/Prince Racket!!! The new one Prince is making for him...I am hoping Prince is making something nice to release to the public and for James Blakes use...But does anyone know what it will be?? (I am hoping a Hybrid Tour with 18x20 Pattern!!!)


come on. whatever the public gets to buy will not be the same specs james plays with. the public will get 11.1 oz and james will get 13.2 oz

get real

Jonny S&V
07-30-2006, 11:43 AM
come on. whatever the public gets to buy will not be the same specs james plays with. the public will get 11.1 oz and james will get 13.2 oz
get real
Yeah, but you can still buy it and lead it up and you'll play like James.;)

kerplunker
07-30-2006, 07:04 PM
Yeah, but you can still buy it and lead it up and you'll play like James.;)
dude come on I am not retarted, the specs I am hoping for is everything i am looking for in a racket the almost 12oz and the 18x20 pattern and the 95"ish head is what i am looking for so hopefully this will fullfil my search for a new racket...in no ways am i looking forward to it because james plays it

jura
07-30-2006, 10:10 PM
dude come on I am not retarted, the specs I am hoping for is everything i am looking for in a racket the almost 12oz and the 18x20 pattern and the 95"ish head is what i am looking for so hopefully this will fullfil my search for a new racket...in no ways am i looking forward to it because james plays it
I don't think the retail version of the "Prince Blake" racket will have 18 mains. The O3 Tour MS has only 16, too while it also exists with 18 for some pros (German Simon Greul is one). Even the usual O3 Tour exists with 18x20 pattern. (I got two of them.) 18x20 is very unusual for Prince. So I don't think that they will issue a "Blake stick" with 18 mains. (Even I'm sure he will never use a racket with 16 mains.)

AJK1
07-30-2006, 10:32 PM
"I'm not retarted" You mean ********?

Bogie
07-30-2006, 10:59 PM
"I'm not retarted" You mean ********?

lolol

kerplunker
07-31-2006, 11:55 AM
"I'm not retarted" You mean ********?
gee thanks....

Jonnyf
07-31-2006, 12:44 PM
Guys blakes racquet is or atleast was not but a few years ago a 97 not a 95

panic
07-31-2006, 12:47 PM
I think the will come up with a new technology, because Blake doesn't like the holes.

Richie Rich
07-31-2006, 01:36 PM
Guys blakes racquet is or atleast was not but a few years ago a 97 not a 95
still is. hasn't changed in a long long time

ngtaj88
08-02-2006, 10:12 AM
blake's new prince frame is coming out in 2-3 weeks becuase theyre done tweaking it and its ready to be available to the public. its the 03 hybrid tour and he is switching to it in the fall after the us open. so im guessing he does like it.

UCbearcats8
08-02-2006, 01:31 PM
got ne proof?

foetz
08-02-2006, 05:20 PM
blake's new prince frame is coming out in 2-3 weeks becuase theyre done tweaking it and its ready to be available to the public. its the 03 hybrid tour and he is switching to it in the fall after the us open. so im guessing he does like it.

great news. i'm really looking forward to this :D

ngtaj88
08-02-2006, 05:32 PM
ill give u my proof when i get the racquets in from my rep that told me. then ill send u pics of blake playing with his tweaked version.

chopps
08-04-2006, 09:20 PM
what kind of info do you want?

RafaN RichardG
08-05-2006, 07:25 AM
info? probbbbably looks, weight, balance, string pattern, head size...for starters
and most will wonder where and hw did you get your hands on one and when is comin' out i suppose

chopps
08-05-2006, 07:40 AM
All blake frame..not sure if this will be the final paint job or not though.

Racquet had a egg shaped design with a dense string pattern..18x20.

What i liked:
I liked the stiffness of the frame..especially toward the top. This made for excellent serving.

Groundies felt decent..more head weight would have been nice.



What i didnt:
Had a real pingy feel to it..could have been the strings and tension and or due to the stiffness.
I would have liked a little more head weight to stabilize more.


it had some small O3 holes at 3 and 9 oclock that where white in color.


Less power the 03 tours.

RafaN RichardG
08-05-2006, 07:50 AM
thanks for sharing, good info
jw whered you playtest this?

chopps
08-05-2006, 07:55 AM
pro had it in his bag

he also mentioned a 16x18 model? I didnt get a chance to see it.

armand
08-08-2006, 08:37 PM
I spoke with the Prince rep today and he said that the contract between Prince and Blake had been torn up and he was suprised to see Blake still using a Prince bag. He said that they went thru many custom racquets and also said that Prince had wanted him to use a racquet with O Ports. Apparently, he was closest to using a racquet for the French.

And he volunteered that the racquet he was actually using is a 10 yr old Dunlop Revelation (Tour?).

tangies08
08-08-2006, 09:11 PM
I spoke with the Prince rep today and he said that the contract between Prince and Blake had been torn up and he was suprised to see Blake still using a Prince bag. He said that they went thru many custom racquets and also said that Prince had wanted him to use a racquet with O Ports. Apparently, he was closest to using a racquet for the French.

And he volunteered that the racquet he was actually using is a 10 yr old Dunlop Revelation (Tour?).

That is completely false information. I have no idea where you heard or made this up from but no. Prince wants Blake on their team desperately and they have finally tweaked the racket to his liking in time for the US Open release.

schaefferm46
08-09-2006, 08:38 PM
i saw the racket today....it is a dunlop shaped head and its about 12 ounces strung..and about 2 points head light swingwhight is abuot 335 and the pattern is 16 18 but they look to have an 18 20 coming out in about 6 months. the racket will be called the hybrid tour.

schaefferm46
08-09-2006, 08:38 PM
o yea the racket is black and red kinda similar colors to the shard db

07ajwell
08-11-2006, 09:45 PM
I saw blake practicing with a black racqeut that said prince in silver letters on the side in toronto. His coach was also hitting with that racquet. It didnt have any o-ports on it.

bluegrasser
08-12-2006, 05:20 AM
blake's new prince frame is coming out in 2-3 weeks becuase theyre done tweaking it and its ready to be available to the public. its the 03 hybrid tour and he is switching to it in the fall after the us open. so im guessing he does like it.

That's spot on, the Prince rep brought it to my friends tennis shop to show the owner, and he told me it looked like a nice stick, black with small holes at the 3/9 position, and I think about 98." - it should be out in a couple of weeks.

tarheels2323
08-12-2006, 08:36 AM
That's spot on, the Prince rep brought it to my friends tennis shop to show the owner, and he told me it looked like a nice stick, black with small holes at the 3/9 position, and I think about 98." - it should be out in a couple of weeks.

Any chance for a midsize version of the Hybrid Tour?

mileslong
08-12-2006, 08:50 AM
funny that prince is so desperately trying to make a stick that looks and performs like a dunlop...good luck. prince should have just stopped after the POG...

ngtaj88
08-12-2006, 11:47 AM
That's spot on, the Prince rep brought it to my friends tennis shop to show the owner, and he told me it looked like a nice stick, black with small holes at the 3/9 position, and I think about 98." - it should be out in a couple of weeks.


sounds about right. it may have a smaller head version too with the 18X20 string pattern. but thank you for confirming my quote because everyone has been thinking im making up things or something when i have been told by my prince rep.

Richie Rich
08-13-2006, 04:23 PM
funny that prince is so desperately trying to make a stick that looks and performs like a dunlop...good luck. prince should have just stopped after the POG...
i think i agree with you. the most successful prince frames after the POG were based on the POG - the POG longbody and the diablo. actually, forgot about the warrior - the best frame prince has put out since POG.

too bad the top player playing with the o3 is Coria - not exactly a ringing endorsement for the frame.

travlerajm
08-13-2006, 05:19 PM
i saw the racket today....it is a dunlop shaped head and its about 12 ounces strung..and about 2 points head light swingwhight is abuot 335 and the pattern is 16 18 but they look to have an 18 20 coming out in about 6 months. the racket will be called the hybrid tour.

Hmm. Are you sure those specs are right? It's almost impossible to have a SW that low on a 12-oz. racquet with the balance point at 13.25".

Edit: never mind. I just ran it through my weight distribution program. It's easily possible. In fact, it's probably a nice feeling frame, since it's probably a lot closer to most pro racquets than stock racquets are.

jackson vile
08-13-2006, 08:26 PM
So then Blake will be putting lead in the handle?

baros
08-14-2006, 03:50 AM
still no pics.
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travlerajm
08-14-2006, 04:01 AM
So then Blake will be putting lead in the handle?

Sorry, but my guess is that the weight and balance of the racquet they sell is still nothing like the weight and balance of what Blake will get.

The only reliable and reasonably current info we have on Blake's racquet is that it weighs about 13.4 oz and has a balance point of about 12.2". I don't know exactly what his swingweight is, but I must say that the racquets that I have leaded up to match Blake's specs have felt really nice for crushing forehands!

BiGGieStuFF
08-14-2006, 04:11 AM
Sorry, but my guess is that the weight and balance of the racquet they sell is still nothing like the weight and balance of what Blake will get.

The only reliable and reasonably current info we have on Blake's racquet is that it weighs about 13.4 oz and has a balance point of about 12.2". I don't know exactly what his swingweight is, but I must say that the racquets that I have leaded up to match Blake's specs have felt really nice for crushing forehands!

13.4? Wow that's about how much my leaded up 300g weighs. It's a beast to carry around but on serves it feels so smooth.

Jonnyf
08-14-2006, 04:37 AM
Guys when blake was with dunlop his stick was 320 unstrung (not including the small layer of lead) so i dont see how he can have beefed it up so much

johnkidd
08-14-2006, 04:58 AM
I was about one foot away from his racket Friday night and I should have taken a picture. It says James Blake on it, and the edges are rounded more then the Dunlop style frames. So I'm not sure if it's from the old mold he was using before or not since I never saw that racket up close.

travlerajm
08-14-2006, 08:03 AM
Guys when blake was with dunlop his stick was 320 unstrung (not including the small layer of lead) so i dont see how he can have beefed it up so much

Was that before of after he took an extended illness/injury layoff and returned with a much heavier ball than before? I wonder if the difference between Blake's racquet before and after his layoff is kind of like the difference between Barry Bond's body before and after the steroid era?

AJK1
08-14-2006, 08:44 PM
Beats me why Prince would be bothered with all this fuss with Blake, they should concentrate on some up and coming players.

PrestigeClassic
08-14-2006, 08:48 PM
Was that before of after he took an extended illness/injury layoff and returned with a much heavier ball than before? I wonder if the difference between Blake's racquet before and after his layoff is kind of like the difference between Barry Bond's body before and after the steroid era?

That must be exactly right. Blake sent his frames to Balco to be injected with steroids, because Blake himself is not good enough. Another good analogy is between Blake and the Loch Ness Monster.

ngtaj88
08-15-2006, 08:54 AM
heres the racquet we have been waiting for

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/ngt78/PO3HT-big.jpg

ngtaj88
08-15-2006, 08:58 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/ngt78/PO3HT-big.jpg

18X20 string pattern supposedly coming out later.

shawn1122
08-15-2006, 09:32 AM
It doesn't look like that on TV.

uxnaitoahz
08-15-2006, 09:38 AM
That's definitely not what Blake is using right now.

Feņa14
08-15-2006, 09:44 AM
Thanks for the pics!

I hear Blake will be using it after the US Open? The paintjobs ok, nothing special though.

ngtaj88
08-15-2006, 10:00 AM
no problem. and yes he will be using it after the us open. and for the others ya i know he isnt using that now. he is still using his trusty dunlop until AFTER the us open.

Jonnyf
08-15-2006, 10:27 AM
THANKS i think it looks nb at all

rayu89
08-15-2006, 10:29 AM
Tell me what's the name of this model??

LowProfile
08-15-2006, 10:30 AM
O3 Hybrid Tour.

Although I'm very surprised that the O-ports are for the cross strings rather than the mains.

EDIT: Here's the page:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage.html?PCODE=PO3HT

rayu89
08-15-2006, 10:37 AM
Thanks a lot

johnkidd
08-15-2006, 10:40 AM
The racket he has here in Cin'ti does not have O-Ports. Not to say he might not switch after the Open...but I'm skeptical.

Slaz
08-15-2006, 10:50 AM
The disign is nearly the same as the Prince Diablo.

Maybe it's time for those who use the diablo to use the O3 technology now.

goblake14
08-15-2006, 11:50 AM
Blake's Dunlop is an 18 by 20 pattern, why would he switch to a 16 by 18? Something tells me he will use this racquet but with an 18x20 instead.

travlerajm
08-15-2006, 12:08 PM
Sweet. I like the thin beam. Too bad it's missing the stabilizer bar.

Do you have accurate specs yet?

bsandy
08-15-2006, 12:15 PM
It kinda makes me wonder if prince wants us to have O's on the Mains or Crosses.

I think this just shows the O's don't do a damn thing, but sell racquets.

. . . Bud

Stringer_Steve
08-15-2006, 12:35 PM
The racket he has here in Cin'ti does not have O-Ports. Not to say he might not switch after the Open...but I'm skeptical.
OK, did you NOT even bother reading anything posted above your reply?
Yes, Blake will be using an 18X20 pattern version of this frame, and that version will be released after the US Open.

travlerajm
08-15-2006, 12:38 PM
O3 Hybrid Tour.

Although I'm very surprised that the O-ports are for the cross strings rather than the mains.

EDIT: Here's the page:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpage.html?PCODE=PO3HT

The O-ports are more important on the crosses. A lot of spin potential is lost by having grommets on the crosses. That's I like the NXG OS - it is also grommetless - and it's a spin machine.

TN1
08-15-2006, 12:50 PM
Why won't Prince release a O3 racquet with a dense string pattern?:confused: They could release the dense pattern O3 white that Sharpova uses. I would even give that a try.

bsandy
08-15-2006, 12:59 PM
Why won't Prince release a O3 racquet with a dense string pattern?:confused: They could release the dense pattern O3 white that Sharpova uses. I would even give that a try.

Yeah . . .

And I wondered if Blake was going to be using at stick with 16 mains.

. . . Bud

snoflewis
08-15-2006, 01:32 PM
it's pretty stiff and has a pretty high swingweight compared to all the other 03 rackets....looks like it's definitely worth a try. and also, im glad to see that prince has finally released a normal looking frame, unlike those that have really round heads and long throats.

jackson vile
08-15-2006, 01:36 PM
I thought the O-ports were just in top and bottom?

ngtaj88
08-15-2006, 01:53 PM
Head Size:
95 sq. in. / 613 sq. cm.
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
Strung Weight: 12oz / 340g
Balance: 8pts Head Light
Swingweight: 337
Stiffness: 67
Beam Width: 21 mm Straight Beam
Composition: Dynamic Braided Graphite / Titanium / Tungsten
Power Level: Low
Swing Speed: Fast
Grip Type: Duratac
String Pattern:
16 Mains / 18 Crosses
Mains skip: 7T.9T.7H.9H
One Piece
No shared holes
String Tension: 51-61 pounds

Amone
08-15-2006, 02:35 PM
Hm.. Looks interesting, but somehow I doubt it'll match up to the Diablo. Call me cynical, but I don't trust the so-called 'normal headsize,' nor the 21 mm beam...

EDIT: Head-shape, not size.

PrestigeClassic
08-15-2006, 05:09 PM
Head Size:
95 sq. in. / 613 sq. cm.
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
Strung Weight: 12oz / 340g
Balance: 8pts Head Light
Swingweight: 337
Stiffness: 67
Beam Width: 21 mm Straight Beam
Composition: Dynamic Braided Graphite / Titanium / Tungsten
Power Level: Low
Swing Speed: Fast
Grip Type: Duratac
String Pattern:
16 Mains / 18 Crosses
Mains skip: 7T.9T.7H.9H
One Piece
No shared holes
String Tension: 51-61 pounds

These specs sound a lot like those of the Prince Precision Graphite 640, except that frame has a different head shape, 16x20 pattern, and 20mm(?) beam.

johnkidd
08-16-2006, 05:07 AM
OK, did you NOT even bother reading anything posted above your reply?
Yes, Blake will be using an 18X20 pattern version of this frame, and that version will be released after the US Open.

Yes I did read the posts, all I was saying is the racket I was two feet from Friday was still this whatever it is and it did not have O-Ports, and that I'm skeptical that he will switch frames because right now he playing the best tennis of his career. Don't mess with it if it isn't broken. Now I could see his all black racket painted like this one.

UCbearcats8
08-16-2006, 05:31 AM
i talked to a prince rep. at the cincy tournament and he said that james' racket is gonna b a 03 hybrid where the o-ports r only at the 12 and 6 spots of the racket.

RafaN RichardG
08-16-2006, 05:42 AM
someone here said that this is not the james blake racquet, or that hes not using htis at the us. open
his will be very similar but with an 18x20 pattern and he wont start using it till after the us open and it wont be available till around the aussie open
about the pj, idk if it will be the same as this one, or different
but this racquet is butt ugly. looks dis proportioned like its too much of an oval and like a souped up diablo, but without the good looks

ngtaj88
08-16-2006, 06:54 AM
its possible thta james will use a racquet with o-ports at the 6 and 12 positions but im having a real hard time believing it. if u look at his actual practicing 03 experimentals all of them have the o-ports at the 3 and 9 positions. if u dont believe me its in on youtube with him practicing with andy roddick and the lastest tennis magazine the very last page on brian barker. brian barker has an 03 experimental with the holes at 3 and 9. the racquet that he is gonna use does have a 18X20 string pattern its the same as the 03 hybrid tour and its available in the 18X20 in january.

setpoint
08-16-2006, 07:01 AM
can u pleas give me the link to the web of him practicing with roddick

ngtaj88
08-16-2006, 10:31 AM
i had it under my favorites on youtube but it seems to be erased. james blake was practicing with roddick during a masters series i think and while they were looking at footage brian barker pointed at something with the racquet clearly showing it had the 03 holes in the 9 and 3 positions.

Stringer_Steve
08-16-2006, 12:17 PM
i talked to a prince rep. at the cincy tournament and he said that james' racket is gonna b a 03 hybrid where the o-ports r only at the 12 and 6 spots of the racket.
I am standing with a Prince Rep as I type this, and he assures me that the Blake racquet will indeed have the O-Ports at the 3 & 9 o'clock position. Not the 12 & 6 o'clock position. Blake's frame will have a boxier beam (as opposed to the elliptical beam of the O3 Hybrid Tour frame pictured) and the previously mentioned 18X20 pattern. The cosmetics should be the same, but the pictured O3 Hybrid Tour is more like the production version of the frame that Shahar Peer is currently using on the WTA Tour http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71626764.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBD14530DB7F6272CB .

ngtaj88
08-16-2006, 01:54 PM
I am standing with a Prince Rep as I type this, and he assures me that the Blake racquet will indeed have the O-Ports at the 3 & 9 o'clock position. Not the 12 & 6 o'clock position. Blake's frame will have a boxier beam (as opposed to the elliptical beam of the O3 Hybrid Tour frame pictured) and the previously mentioned 18X20 pattern. The cosmetics should be the same, but the pictured O3 Hybrid Tour is more like the production version of the frame that Shahar Peer is currently using on the WTA Tour http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/71626764.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193875DCB1DD8387ABBD14530DB7F6272CB .

thats a lot easier to believe than anything else like a 12 and 6 o'clock postion o-ports.