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nukkuz
07-27-2006, 04:23 PM
Hey guys I read about how babolat adds lead tape to Nadal's racquet but I'm just a little confused as to where though

heres what I mean:

What strings and racquet does Rafa use?

In December 2003, Rafa switched from his Babolat Pure Drive to a prototype racquet. The racquet is called the "Babolat Aeropro Drive," and is now available for sale. His grip size is 4-1/4 (Babolat VS Overgrip). His strings are Pro Hurricane 135/15L, and his tension is 24 kg. As for weight, starting from a standard frame available in shops, Babolat adds 21 grams, 15 under the bumper (top head) and 5 grams at the bottom. Weight: 321 g BP 32.7 cm unstrung.

Ok, so I get the first part but here's what I DON'T get. What did they mean by 6 grams at the "bottom." BOTTOM OF WHAT?!!?!?

Did they mean 6 o' clock?

or did they mean at the bottom of the handle?

That's my dilemma! lol

by they way, they forgot to mention where the last gram goes.......they said, "Babolat adds 21 grams, 15 under the bumper (top head) and 5 grams at the bottom," which only equals 20 grams, where's the last gram?

Awaiting your responses!

-Daniel

tennis_nerd22
07-27-2006, 04:52 PM
well 15 grams under the bumper would be 15 grams at 12 oclock, and 5 grams at the bottom would be at the buttcap. however the 15+5=/=20 might be a typo.

nukkuz
07-28-2006, 10:20 AM
and you are SURE about this?

archangelkc
07-28-2006, 10:24 AM
I interpret that as, 15 grams placed on the top on the frame underneath the bumper gaurd so it is not seen and it wont come out. The other 5 grams would be placed under the grip in the handle. Thats what I would assume after reading that.

nukkuz
07-28-2006, 10:42 AM
really? I thought they meant 6 o'clock, but I think that under the grip makes more sense...

tennis_nerd22
07-28-2006, 12:18 PM
and you are SURE about this?

yup...

baros
07-29-2006, 10:23 AM
it's hard to believe becuase they say his racquet is really light.
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TN1
07-29-2006, 12:49 PM
Interesting, I wonder what the balance of is racquet is then.

Lloyd Barcenilla
07-29-2006, 12:57 PM
Is anyone going to copy him?

onkystomper
07-29-2006, 12:58 PM
it's hard to believe becuase they say his racquet is really light.


315 grams for a pros racquet is really light!!

Lloyd Barcenilla
07-29-2006, 02:52 PM
Anyone going to buy same racket and put same weight in?

just to try and be like nadal?

Anyway why does he need added power? his muscles are huge!

baros
07-29-2006, 04:41 PM
there isn't anyone here who could be like nadal even if they wanted to.
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Lloyd Barcenilla
07-29-2006, 04:42 PM
Why does he need lead at 12?

bleno567
07-29-2006, 06:10 PM
Im not sure what people are talking about when they say lead under the bumber. Do they mean that nadal has lead tape on his racquet underneath his grommet in order to conceal the fact that he uses it? If this is not what is meant here, I wonder if that would be possible...

Lloyd Barcenilla
07-30-2006, 02:25 AM
Why does he need lead at 12? He's too powerful.

BluDiamond
07-30-2006, 02:42 AM
so that he doesnt have to try as hard to produce the same power but get lots more spin because of the racket head speed as well???

Lloyd Barcenilla
07-30-2006, 04:25 AM
i guess. Im suprised he dosent get bad elbows from his extreme western

Duzza
07-30-2006, 04:36 AM
Anyone going to buy same racket and put same weight in?

just to try and be like nadal?


I know you are.

Lloyd Barcenilla
07-30-2006, 04:37 AM
I know you are.

I am? no im not, copying vamos dosent mean you'll play like vamos.

Duzza
07-30-2006, 04:43 AM
I am? no im not, copying vamos dosent mean you'll play like vamos.
Well from you're threads asking about Where nadal puts his lead and how much it does. I mean why else would you bother knowing.

Lloyd Barcenilla
07-30-2006, 04:47 AM
Well from you're threads asking about Where nadal puts his lead and how much it does. I mean why else would you bother knowing.

Im not that stupid. Im going to add lead tape to help my own game!

And its just curiosity anyway!!!!

Rafa Nadal
07-30-2006, 10:07 AM
ive played the aeropor for a few months with lead like nadal. it playes wondeful !

Gazz
07-30-2006, 10:21 AM
lol - 321g? i use an aeropro drive plus and i have 325g...i'm 5'8" and 147lbs - is this bad if Rafa has a lighter racquet than me and is like twice my size??

Lloyd Barcenilla
07-30-2006, 04:08 PM
ive played the aeropor for a few months with lead like nadal. it playes wondeful !

Really? how does it play?

15g in head and 5 in handle?

Lloyd Barcenilla
07-31-2006, 03:25 PM
ive played the aeropor for a few months with lead like nadal. it playes wondeful !

SOrry to ask again, how does it play? im very intrested

Duzza
07-31-2006, 11:38 PM
Try yourself... Im going to add lead tape to help my own game!

AJK1
08-01-2006, 04:24 PM
Yes, they mean 5g at the handle end, probably under the grip. Adding it at six o'clock would not give a balance point of 32.7 as stated.

Lloyd Barcenilla
08-01-2006, 04:25 PM
Yes, they mean 5g at the handle end, probably under the grip. Adding it at six o'clock would not give a balance point of 32.7 as stated.

Under the grip at the top of the handle, or bottom?

If it was at the bottom, wouldnt you feel it?

AJK1
08-01-2006, 06:02 PM
They usually put 5" long strips of lead tape along the top, bottom, and side bevels of the handle. 4 in total. I'd say Nadal has the other lead tape at 12 o'clock for some extra swingweight to help him create extra spin. He is obviously strong enough to create his own power.

Lloyd Barcenilla
08-02-2006, 01:46 AM
They usually put 5" long strips of lead tape along the top, bottom, and side bevels of the handle. 4 in total. I'd say Nadal has the other lead tape at 12 o'clock for some extra swingweight to help him create extra spin. He is obviously strong enough to create his own power.

Adding weight to 12 gives power,

Duzza
08-02-2006, 02:57 AM
Adding weight to 12 gives power,
I'm gonna have to go with AJK1 on this one, I'm pretty sure 3 and 9 give power, 12 for increasing swingweight.

travlerajm
08-02-2006, 09:00 AM
I'm gonna have to go with AJK1 on this one, I'm pretty sure 3 and 9 give power, 12 for increasing swingweight.

Adding a little bit of lead at 12 increases power. But 15g is not a little. That amount of lead actually REDUCES power because the swingweight is so high. That's why he needs to string so low to compensate for the low powered frame.
And since his frame is strung so loosely, his poly strings give lots of spin. And the weight at 12 gives even more spin because it causes the strings to stretch more laterally, and the ball to flatten more.

So in effect, his 15g at 12 has the complete opposite effect as adding only 3g grams of lead at 12, which would flatten out his shots and add power instead.

The same effects can be seen by adding at 3 and 9, but it just takes more lead then.

Richard Parnell
08-03-2006, 11:25 AM
Lead at 12 o'clock would only lower the power on his frame if it lowered the speed of his swing. Placing weight at 3 and 9 o'clock would pull the sweet spot slightly out and make the frame more stable on off centre shots.
Last time I weighed his frame it was 319 grms with the over grip on.
All the best,
Richard

Lloyd Barcenilla
08-05-2006, 10:03 AM
Lead at 12 o'clock would only lower the power on his frame if it lowered the speed of his swing. Placing weight at 3 and 9 o'clock would pull the sweet spot slightly out and make the frame more stable on off centre shots.
Last time I weighed his frame it was 319 grms with the over grip on.
All the best,
Richard

SO all the lead at 12 gives him extra spin, and he has low tension for power? + his muscles? If so im never trying a racket like that, i would die!

Inless it really does play nicely, any other reviews on it?

Lloyd Barcenilla
08-05-2006, 10:08 AM
ive played the aeropor for a few months with lead like nadal. it playes wondeful !

Isnt it hard to swing?

Lloyd Barcenilla
08-08-2006, 02:04 PM
Lead at 12 o'clock would only lower the power on his frame if it lowered the speed of his swing. Placing weight at 3 and 9 o'clock would pull the sweet spot slightly out and make the frame more stable on off centre shots.
Last time I weighed his frame it was 319 grms with the over grip on.
All the best,
Richard

Have you tried lead tape same as nadal? Do you really need that much strength to swing a racket that heavy? Would it be the same effect off mayb 12g and 4 g in the handle?

bleno567
08-09-2006, 06:47 AM
ive never heard of putting lead under the bumper. is this something that anyone could do. Is it just like putting lead under the grommet. If so wouldnt that make the grommet not sit flush on the top of the frame?

TrueAce
08-09-2006, 07:14 PM
what does a stock aeropro drive weigh in grams?


then if someone knows rafa's specs for sure can they post the grams then convert it to ounces with string included?

Thanks

Lloyd Barcenilla
08-10-2006, 03:20 AM
what does a stock aeropro drive weigh in grams?


then if someone knows rafa's specs for sure can they post the grams then convert it to ounces with string included?

Thanks

stock unstrung = 300g

VPRR10
08-16-2006, 02:05 PM
O.K. does anybody know how to put lead into the racquet (like do you open something and put the lead in or what?)

Also, can you buy lead?

I'm Confused!

Povl Carstensen
08-17-2006, 09:32 AM
VPRR10, look under learning center on this site, or go directly to www.tennis-warehouse.com/LC/Customizing/customize.html. Leadtape can be bought at TW.