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chair ump
08-19-2006, 04:24 PM
List your MUFs...the ones that have flown below the radar (past/present), but get the job done just as well or better than their hyped up, over marketed counterparts...let the list begin :) !

Koz
08-19-2006, 05:34 PM
I just bought my first racquet back from a friend (who I sold it to years ago). Prince Thunderlite OS standard length. Best OS racquet I've ever hit with. Ever.

127 mph
08-19-2006, 05:39 PM
Most any Pro Kennex

Ronaldo
08-19-2006, 05:39 PM
Most of the Dunlop Revelation series, PK Black Ace, and the Prince Graduate 90.

maverick1
08-19-2006, 05:40 PM
Sorry, can't help you. Life is too short to even look at UFs.

Say Chi Sin Lo
08-19-2006, 05:43 PM
PRTi
200g HM
Iprestige Mid

GS
08-19-2006, 05:49 PM
What would be better than a POG mid? A POG midplus, naturally. (Not the widebody Graphite II.) It would be the discontinued Precision Graphite 640. 4 or 5 pros used to use this stick. Why it didn't take off, I'll never know. It works, just like the PS 6.0 95. I love all 7 of my 640s. Hey, they don't make sticks like they used to. Just look at Prince's TT lineup.....

chair ump
08-19-2006, 06:42 PM
Most any Pro Kennex

I second that :) Pro Kennex has really good stuff.

chair ump
08-19-2006, 06:43 PM
Sorry, can't help you. Life is too short to even look at UFs.

Good luck on your fruitless voyage through the barren landscape of OF's (overappreciated frames)...follow the rest of the cattle.

Ronaldo
08-19-2006, 07:01 PM
Most any Pro Kennex

Current PK line absolutely wins this prize

maverick1
08-19-2006, 07:37 PM
Good luck on your fruitless voyage through the barren landscape of OF's (overappreciated frames)...follow the rest of the cattle.
:rolleyes:
following the cattle is otherwise known as letting the user community do your research.
You are not going to get very far if you personally evaluate every option available to you before every purchase.
I will tell you what I think is overrated - the idea that the racket is crucial to your performance. I have/can switched between rackets as different as Head Ti.S6 and ProStaff 85, in middle of a set against equal opponent with no difference in results.

chair ump
08-19-2006, 08:27 PM
:rolleyes:
following the cattle is otherwise known as letting the user community do your research.
You are not going to get very far if you personally evaluate every option available to you before every purchase.
I will tell you what I think is overrated - the idea that the racket is crucial to your performance. I have/can switched between rackets as different as Head Ti.S6 and ProStaff 85, in middle of a set against equal opponent with no difference in results.

You make a good point here. I agree that it's misleading to put too much faith in racquets, tech., and so forth. The player using them has more to do with forehands and backhands...although there is a fine line that exists with using equipment that can maximize what you do well, and blunt what you do well. So choose wisely.

MTChong
08-19-2006, 08:58 PM
I'm also going to say the ProKennex line of racquets.

Starwind
08-19-2006, 09:53 PM
Head Pro Tour 280

Roger_federer
08-19-2006, 10:01 PM
Babolats (Pure drive)

Dopke
08-19-2006, 10:01 PM
Wilson ROK. ROK SOLID.. haha.. :D

djarc
08-20-2006, 01:56 AM
How are the Pure Drives underrated? I've seen college players running around with babolat pure drives day n night.

anirut
08-20-2006, 03:36 AM
Wilson ROK. ROK SOLID.. haha.. :D

I'd second that!

Duzza
08-20-2006, 03:39 AM
Babolats (Pure drive)
are you kidding me??
1. Pure drives should be underappreciated for their dodginess
2. they are OVERappreciated!

cghipp
08-20-2006, 05:10 AM
I'm going to go with my current faves and say the Yonex Ti-80 and the PK line. esp. the newer Ki 5.

Mr. Blond
08-20-2006, 05:40 AM
I will have to agree with most on this thread, the pro kennex racquets are really under appreciated. I have encounterd most of the new line and many of the older frames in my shop, and although I have not had much long term experience with them, I am always impressed with their build quality, and feel. I think when talking about racquets, you are discussing more the marketing of the product then the actuall product and pro kennex is an example of that.

Ronaldo
08-20-2006, 05:52 AM
From many yrs ago, thread here claimed the Pure Drive is really based on an old PK mold for the Destiny series. Ironic

netman
08-20-2006, 05:59 AM
1. The entire Pro Kennex line
2. Prince TT Hornet MP
3. Prince TT Bandit OS
4. Dunlop Select Pro OS and MP

wally
08-20-2006, 06:28 AM
How about the Major (now TF) racquets.

I really liked the X-1 and the X-1 symbio. They really played well.

chair ump
08-20-2006, 06:49 AM
I will have to agree with most on this thread, the pro kennex racquets are really under appreciated. I have encounterd most of the new line and many of the older frames in my shop, and although I have not had much long term experience with them, I am always impressed with their build quality, and feel. I think when talking about racquets, you are discussing more the marketing of the product then the actuall product and pro kennex is an example of that.

Perfect example here of how PK seems to be emerging as the MUFs leader. Which should be taken as a compliment, meaning a lot of their resources goes into building and designing quality products instead of huge endorsements and marketing hype. Which means if you're patient enough to sift through the OF's you just might get to the MUFs and have a better racquet in your hands.

fielders_80
08-20-2006, 07:59 AM
Pure Drive is definitely over appreciated...

chair ump
08-20-2006, 11:13 AM
Yeah I demoed a PD a while back and I remember it lacking feel and being quite a clunker...definitely a big hitting baseline racquet. This one in stock form definitely is a contender for MOF.

Return_Ace
08-20-2006, 01:38 PM
Yonex Ti80
Yonex Vcon 17 100"

onkystomper
08-20-2006, 01:43 PM
FISCHER especially old pro tour and pro no.1 with ceramics!!

K. Wilson Moose
08-20-2006, 02:08 PM
Prince CTS Approach 90
Prince CTS Lightning 90
Prince CTS Synergy DB 24 MP
Prince Precision Response Ti MP
Prince Precision Graphite 640

chair ump
08-20-2006, 04:34 PM
Prince CTS Approach 90
Prince CTS Lightning 90
Prince CTS Synergy DB 24 MP
Prince Precision Response Ti MP
Prince Precision Graphite 640

Right on Moose! The CTS line from Prince still has a definite spot among the top MUFs ever. I used to play with a CTS Lightning back in the day, and I still find myself thinking back to how good it was. Prince should reissue the CTS line, because I know there has to be legions of fans for those great racquets.

Golden Retriever
08-20-2006, 04:37 PM
Prince Diablo MP.

AJK1
08-20-2006, 05:01 PM
Anything Pro Kennex

max
08-20-2006, 05:01 PM
Funny, before I opened this up, I, too, was thinking Pro Kennex. They deserve credit for their engineering.

lethalfang
08-20-2006, 07:02 PM
Wilson Pro Staff Classic 6.1?
The 6.0 version got all the hype. :rolleyes:

Ronaldo
08-20-2006, 07:21 PM
Wilson Pro Staff Classic 6.1?
The 6.0 version got all the hype. :rolleyes:
PSC 6.1 95 is kinda weird and dead above the sweetspot. Wilson Ultra FPK is even better and mimics the Head PC, with an open string pattern and more headlight.

jack mckinney
08-20-2006, 07:25 PM
I have to agree with moose. The CTS prince line. I still have 1 CTS lightening 90 that i hit with. I would still be using the oversize if they had not all cracked.

hadoken
08-20-2006, 08:37 PM
I am not sure I would say the Prince CTS is underappreciated. They sold a lot of frames with that line. Maybe the company didn't appreciate it because Prince had a lot of gimmicky frames afterwards, but certainly not from the consumer perspective.

I've heard Wilson will make frames if there is a minimum batch order. Not sure if Prince has the same policy though.

travlerajm
08-20-2006, 09:41 PM
Superstiff category: Wilson Profile 2.7 OS = best crisp volley racquet ever made (volleys like a wall).

Tweener category: Wilson Prostaff 4.7 EB Stretch 115" = best serving racquet ever made (only 10.5 oz, but a SW of 346!).

Flexible category: Prince NXG OS = most spin-friendly and versatile frame ever made (a little lead in the right places makes this a fun stick).

Redflea
08-20-2006, 11:04 PM
My vote would go to oversized racquets as a category...watched a 4.5 doubles match at a tournament this weekend. Couple of guys w/Prince OS racquets (couldn't tell the model, definitely not "O3" technology) beat another very good team handily...they got every volley back, hit the angles, had excellent serves, and just didn't screw up. Real fun to watch, glad I wasn't the one getting schooled. :)

Keifers
08-20-2006, 11:18 PM
I gotta agree with the many posters who have nominated Pro Kennex frames. PK has been one of the genuinely innovative racquet companies for many years -- their Kinetic technology, for instance, has been a real boon for lots of players looking for an arm-friendly stick.

Fancy technology aside, though, I've found that PK does a very good job of basic racquet design. Their frames are just well-designed and well-made. I'm most familiar with the Heritage and Redondo racquets, and they are all fine playing sticks with great stability and large sweetspots.

Nextman916
08-20-2006, 11:30 PM
Prince Diablo XP

chair ump
08-21-2006, 09:17 AM
I've also heard that Cayman racquets are underappreciated. Are they any good?

bee
08-21-2006, 09:37 AM
Head Liquid Metal Prestige Mid. Seems to be my favorite. Better than the PC600 overall, better than Head Prestige Classic Tour mid and mp.

Agree, Prokennex is goo.

mavsman149
08-21-2006, 03:15 PM
Fischer period. I haven't tried pk but have heard great things.

chair ump
08-21-2006, 05:36 PM
Fischer period. I haven't tried pk but have heard great things.

Try any one of the Pro Kennex Heritage Series racquets. They are the real deal.