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scez
08-30-2006, 10:21 PM
Hey, here is a link to a new video of me serving. I tried to take advice from my last topic, but think by looking at my video I didnt listen fully :neutral: The first part is first serves, the second part, after my beautiful shatering editing, is my second serves. I will later try and get a video of this in slow motion. Any advice is appreciate, plus any thoughts on my serve level and speed would be greatly appreciated. And try to be nice :D One thing I noticed is that I always thought/felt like I was getting in the trophy posistion before swinging, but now I can see that I am not and it is probably hurting my power level. And that I dont toss the ball high enough! Something tells me I am in for a beating :-| And I am not sure why the video quality became crapy. Most of the balls were dead, so I hope that adds more hope to my caus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8WRB4HCAsM

Hondasteve
08-30-2006, 10:38 PM
Wow, SLOW down your motion a little! I notice that when I rush my motion I tend to lose power. It looks like you have good basic mechanics, but as you noted earlier, you don't really capture the trophy position and therefore rob yourself of power and consistency.

I am sure that some of the elders here will be able to give you some better advice on serve mechanics, so I'll let them do their thing.

Keep practicing and slow it down! Best of luck.

The Prodigy
08-30-2006, 10:48 PM
you are probably a lot better than me, but your motion doesn't really seem to have a flow. throw it up, and smack. More knee bend should help too.

Andres
08-30-2006, 10:48 PM
Footfault after Footfault after footfault ;)

MasterTS
08-30-2006, 10:49 PM
Your second serve needs a lot more spin and arch.. At your level you need more net clearance for more safety too. Contact doesn't seem very clean and your coil motion is too fast hence lots of energy lost.

supersmash
08-31-2006, 12:17 AM
Dude. You're wearing RED and BLACK! BP's gonna be maaad.

kchau
08-31-2006, 12:23 AM
you dont have much of a follow throw, it just seems like you are just making contact and then dropping your arm..

make your swing motion a bit more fluid, take the time to follow through and hit through the ball, you usually want your arm to end up diagonal across yoru body,

this is what i got from the shots up close.

andyroddick's mojo
08-31-2006, 01:01 AM
yes, slow down a little bit, wait until the ball stops in mid air at its climax to strike it. don't hit it on its way up or on its way down, that's why you hit so many in the net. your second serve looks pretty good, can you get it in there 90% of the time like that. look at pros like roddick, and how he serves, he probably has the best example for you. he generates so much power from his racket head speed and his knee bend. when he tosses the ball he waits until it literally stops in mid-air, then strikes it lightning fast. and with his second serve, he trys to hit even harder, but puts more effort into the brushing up motion which gives it such consistency.

scez
08-31-2006, 05:24 AM
Thanks a ton guys, I totaly agree that my motion is very rushed. I think I could probably fixed it a lot if I would toss the ball higher giving me more time to get ready. And thanks a lot Kchau, I just noticed about the follow through. Weird thing is that in my other serve videos my follow through is a lot better then in this one. And the shorts are blue/navy, not black :p

boojay
08-31-2006, 12:47 PM
i actually think you have a pretty fluid motion. the biggest issue i see is the follow through--it needs the most adjustment--otherwise, with a little tweak here and there, you have a beautiful serve.

scez
09-05-2006, 06:14 PM
What level and speed would you say my serve is?

siber222000
09-05-2006, 07:46 PM
Footfault after Footfault after footfault ;)
hahaha, yes i think so too :mrgreen:

RiosTheGenius
09-05-2006, 07:56 PM
a few things to consider;
-you footfault like it's your job...
-you rush too much (already said)
-get into it, it seems like you're just throwing serves, but there isn't much thought into it.
-you're all arms, use your legs, jump and hit that ball as high as your reach.

MasterTS
09-05-2006, 08:00 PM
What level and speed would you say my serve is?

Level is maybe 3.0 or 3.5?

Speed.. hmm maybe 40-55mph? I think my forehands are faster than your serve.. lol

tennus
09-06-2006, 02:43 AM
Level is maybe 3.0 or 3.5?

Speed.. hmm maybe 40-55mph? I think my forehands are faster than your serve.. lol Interesting how a poster has to know how fast he's serving. Even more interesting that someone makes himself feel good by squashing anothers ego. A simple stopwatch check will tell you his first serve is way faster than 55mph !:rolleyes:

scez
09-06-2006, 07:54 AM
Level is maybe 3.0 or 3.5?

Speed.. hmm maybe 40-55mph? I think my forehands are faster than your serve.. lol

Lol damn, I know it isnt 40-55, my coach has said he has seen me getting aroudn 100mph, but he is my coach so I take that with a grain of salt. But he isnt one of those ego boosting coaches either. I have clocked it awhile ago at around 85-95 at the rogers cup without warming up, but the set up was pretty bad. But these serves I know were slower. I will try to get more videos up, and hopefully a video of me playing a game. And for the foot faults, during matches I make sure I dont foot fault, people often comment that I stand to far behind the baseline on serves :p

scez
09-06-2006, 03:03 PM
anyone else?

tennus
09-06-2006, 04:12 PM
anyone else?
OK. There are just so many variables with hand timing serves: But I did stopwatch time some of Zina Garrison's second serves the other day because I thought the radar readings were a little high. They had her around 75-85mph. From your clip your best serves were a little quicker. :)

scez
09-06-2006, 06:24 PM
Thanks man, I will take that as atleast 90 mph, if not higher :p and gotta round everythign up :D

drakulie
09-06-2006, 06:31 PM
I would say you are serving around 70-80 MPH. 3.5 level serve.