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ripcontrol
09-29-2006, 03:25 AM
what is your favourte fischer and why?

morten
09-29-2006, 04:00 AM
vacuum pro 90 by far, talking about scalpel...

007
09-29-2006, 06:38 AM
VT98 Pro
330g red/silver Pro #1
Vacuum Pro 98
Current Pro #1
Mag Speed 98
Pro Tour (2004-5)
ProExtreme FT (2004-5)

mshinde
09-29-2006, 06:47 AM
Mspeed No 1 98. But I have tried only Fischer Pro 1 only so there may be better racquets in the past.

rockoffer00
09-29-2006, 07:17 AM
what exactly is the difference between the VT98 pro and Vacuum pro 98 ?

i have the Vacuum pro 98 , it has dark reddish graphics with gold trim and a 25-23-21 variable beam.

morten
09-29-2006, 07:30 AM
vacuum pro 98 has a constant 21 beam

rockoffer00
09-29-2006, 07:38 AM
morton, its the other way around.
im looking at my Fischer right now, it says 'Vacuum pro 98' , and the beam is 25-23-20. The racket is dark red with gold trim. The weight is 330g as printed on the throat of the frame.

Therefore, i assume the VT98 is a constant beam frame.

rockoffer00
09-29-2006, 07:46 AM
this is a picture of the racket, which someone is selling on **** .. (this is not my racket and have no interest in the **** sale)

http://cgi.*********/ws/****ISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7212594174&category=20871

This is the same as the frames i used to use and i think this is the Vacuum pro 98 that has a variable beam.

morten
09-29-2006, 07:47 AM
yes, but they both say vacuum pro 98, oops, the classic 21 beam says... classic also :) yours is the Kafelnikov one. Good for 2hbh, i didnt like it much to be honest.

rockoffer00
09-29-2006, 07:52 AM
oopps ., seems this site doesnt allow such links. sorry.. just wanted to post the picture
anyway, the racket is dark red.

Broadway
09-29-2006, 07:53 AM
vacuum pro 90 by far, talking about scalpel...

i agree with morten

rockoffer00
09-29-2006, 07:54 AM
anyway, how different are the current fischer frames from the one i have?
i have not tried any newer fischers in the past 5 years.

morten
09-29-2006, 07:58 AM
yours is a god one, a classic. Dont think the newer are any better.

AAAA
09-29-2006, 08:01 AM
To clarify some confusion here there is a Vacuum Pro 98" and a Vacuum Pro classic 98".

When I first gained a strong interest in tennis (1996-98?) some of the current fischer players frames at the time were

Fischer Vacuum Pro Classic 90" - 330 g 90" 19mm beam (blue with purple and gold trim)

Fischer Vacuum Pro Classic 98" - 330 g 98" 21mm beam (blue with purple and gold trim)

And then there were the 'power-feel system' beams 25mm-23mm-20/21mm. These frames have 98" head sizes and depending on generation or paint job had names like VT Pro 98(VT means Vacuum Technic), VT 98 or Vacuum Pro 98. Paint jobs I have seen or used of these frames are dark red with gold trim and also a blue with black trim and gold trim.

rockoffer00
09-29-2006, 08:10 AM
Thank you AAAA you are correct.
The 'classic' fischers where used by Wilander (during his comeback in 95) and other more old school players b/c they had a constant beam. I do remember the blue-purplish colors

My question is how did the variable beam vacuum pro frames change from my racket (reddish/gold in 1998) to Fischer frames currently. Are they just graphics and cosmetics? I know Kafelnikov's went from my frame to a bright red frame to the black/red Pro 1. But, i have a feeling its the same racket. I havent followed the Fischer line since.

In short, is it worth getting new Fischers, or are my frames basically the same? I was getting rackets from Fischer back in the day, so I have ALOT of them.

vkartikv
09-29-2006, 08:13 AM
To clarify some confusion here there is a Vacuum Pro 98" and a Vacuum Pro classic 98".

When I first gained a strong interest in tennis (1996-98?) some of the current fischer players frames at the time were

Fischer Vacuum Pro Classic 90" - 330 g 90" 19mm beam (blue with purple and gold trim)

Fischer Vacuum Pro Classic 98" - 330 g 98" 21mm beam (blue with purple and gold trim)

And then there were the 'power-feel system' beams 25mm-23mm-20/21mm. These frames have 98" head sizes and depending on generation or paint job had names like VT Pro 98(VT means Vacuum Technic), VT 98 or Vacuum Pro 98. Paint jobs I have seen or used of these frames are dark red with gold trim and also a blue with black trim and gold trim.

There was also a vacuum pro classic revolution 98 with the same specs but an all yellow paintjob. The racquet is by far the toughest I have played with. It belies its 98 sq.in. headsize and plays smaller than a prostaff midsize.

morten
09-29-2006, 08:42 AM
and it was a bit longer i think..

vkartikv
09-29-2006, 08:45 AM
and it was a bit longer i think..

yes, they had both the +1.5cm and +2.5cm versions.

AAAA
09-29-2006, 08:58 AM
Thank you AAAA you are correct.
The 'classic' fischers where used by Wilander (during his comeback in 95) and other more old school players b/c they had a constant beam. I do remember the blue-purplish colors

My question is how did the variable beam vacuum pro frames change from my racket (reddish/gold in 1998) to Fischer frames currently. Are they just graphics and cosmetics? I know Kafelnikov's went from my frame to a bright red frame to the black/red Pro 1. But, i have a feeling its the same racket. I havent followed the Fischer line since.

In short, is it worth getting new Fischers, or are my frames basically the same? I was getting rackets from Fischer back in the day, so I have ALOT of them.

The new Fischers play differently. AFAIK the red paint-job version of the red/gold VT pro is the same racquet and the later red and silver pain-job version might still be the same racquet, saw one in a shop years ago and it was still 330 g unstrung. The newer re-incarnations (red/black/silver pj and red/black pj) don't play the same.

AAAA
09-29-2006, 09:01 AM
There was also a vacuum pro classic revolution 98 with the same specs but an all yellow paintjob. The racquet is by far the toughest I have played with. It belies its 98 sq.in. headsize and plays smaller than a prostaff midsize.


yeah, I had one of those (about 27.25" long, 320g unstrung, about 21 or 22mm constant beam, sunburnt matt yellow). To this very day I regret selling it.

vkartikv
09-29-2006, 09:06 AM
yeah, I had one of those (about 27.25" long, 320g unstrung, about 21 or 22mm constant beam, sunburnt matt yellow). To this very day I regret selling it.

I have some in mint condition lying around that I want to dispose off - for real cheap...

AAAA
09-29-2006, 09:29 AM
I have some in mint condition lying around that I want to dispose off - for real cheap...


vkartikv, What grip size, cost including international shipping? I may be interested.

Thanks

vkartikv
09-29-2006, 11:38 AM
vkartikv, What grip size, cost including international shipping? I may be interested.

Thanks

Please email me at vkartikv@yahoo.com and we will discuss it.

007
09-29-2006, 12:57 PM
Fischer stopped using ceramic fiber (SiC - silicon carbide) in its frames when the red/silver Pro #1 was dropped in 2001........most top-level Fischers that preceeded it include cermamics. THOSE are the ones to have!

AAAA
09-30-2006, 06:59 AM
Please email me at vkartikv@yahoo.com and we will discuss it.

vkartikv, Before I email you to discuss price could you post here what grip size they are, how many you have and also if possible upload photos of the frame's head showing their state of wear and tear?


Thanks

znoopie
10-06-2006, 03:55 PM
The yellow Revolution is actually my current stick. I was using a PS 6.0 95 before and came across this frame a little while ago. My BH slice got better with this Fischer. The swingweight seems to be low, yet it's very stable on hard shots. To me it feels quite similar to an i.Prestige MP XL but with a softer, lighter feel. I like it quite a lot that I went ahead and bought five more of them. :D Also in contrary to what Kartik said earlier, I think the PS 6.0 85 is a more demanding frame -- at least to me.

The problem with this long-discontinued frame is I don't think I can find a replacement grommet anywhere. So far I just put two layers of head tape on the top.

AAAA, I have a question for you since you seem to be the only one who likes this frame. I have a dropweight machine and my current reels are Gosen OG Micro (mono synthetic) and Head Fibergel Power (multi synthetic). I'm experimenting with these and as far as I know, I need to keep my tension very accurately within a narrow 55 to 57-lbs range (or keep it low) to achieve a so-called Fischer feel. However, given my situation, could you recommend me the setup that you feel works the best for this frame?

Thanks in advance.