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Ann
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Glad someone got it.
AceSalvo
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If Fed doesn't win Halle, thats just fine. Someone is bound to serve lights out and luck out in the TB. He just needs a little practice going into Wimb. As long as Fed stays sharp on serve at Wimbly, he gets to the SF. From there its down to the luck of the draw or some insane battle.
Lleytonstation
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Yes, yes, and yes. All very true... but... well... I still want Halle. Is that wrong?
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
Tbh tsitsipas gets away with a lot as well.
mightyjeditribble
Hall of Fame
No! I want Halle too. I want #102 and #10 and any excuse for Roger to keep playing a little longer. Of course, if he does win Wimbledon, I don't care about much else. But how likely is he to win Wimbledon? Not odds on that's for sure.
So I want him to win Halle. A bird in the hand etc.
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BeatlesFan
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I'm not going anywhere. I'm a Federer fan and will continue to post here whenever I feel like it. I always talk nicely about him here, always show how much I respect and admire him and you always like my posts when I do it. Now I became an annoying do*che all of a sudden just because I respectfully disagreed with someone that implied Djoko should participate in Laver Cup to be liked. You should check out my posts if you think I'm a butthurt fan that wants to defend his fav at any cost, you couldn’t be more wrong.
If you’re a completely crazy Federer fan that feels the need to jump down someone’s throat under whatever pretext, that’s not my problem. You're talking about sanity but right now, you're the only insane person here. Now cut the crap and stop annoying me. I’m not a mean person but there's a limit to my patience.
Sorry for that, people. Moving on now.
Maybe a little more than that, I think. He had a very good season so far and even on his worst surface, he did better than most players, only the 2 best players on clay outperformed him. So on his favorite surface, I'd say his chances are pretty good.
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Roger is more likely to win Halle than Wimbledon anyway.
Nostradamus
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There is no guarantee roger can beat Novak on grass. Novak maybe still too strong for him
Lleytonstation
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@Ann and @BeatlesFan , Feds chances are not great, but I think they are better than you guys think. If he does win Halle, with the way this year has gone (except AO), clay season and all, his confidence will be through the roof. His motivation higher than ever, and he will only have to face Djoker in the final. And that is if he gets there.
ForehandRF
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NBP
Hall of Fame
Not him, was someone else a few weeks ago
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
I've seen this story before. And I don't like how it ends.
2015: Early upset in Australia, wins Dubai, solid Masters & clay season, wins Halle, struts through Wimby like a peacock full of confidence......and then rolls over to Novak in the final.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Well, I am hoping Djoker is not there in the finals to be honest.
MeatTornado
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Would be almost impossible not to (unless he's hiding another injury like last year's hand).Back on his favorite hunting ground.I bet he will play (much) better than last year
I have no idea how he even made the final last year. I've never seen him play that cranky throughout an entire tournament. It was brutal.
Ann
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http://www.newindianexpress.com/spo...r-fresh-for-tenth-title-at-halle-1990984.html
"....Federer also revealed he would have a bird's eye view of the action while resting up at his hotel, where his room overlooks Court 1.
"When friends come here they can't believe you can watch tennis from the hotel. It is totally cool to watch your rivals and friends playing from your balcony."...)
Dude knows how to live.
https://www.gerryweber-open.de/en/news/article/der-sieg-muss-immer-das-ziel-sein-in-halle/ (the article is in English)
“Victory is always my aim in Halle”
"....Federer also revealed he would have a bird's eye view of the action while resting up at his hotel, where his room overlooks Court 1.
"When friends come here they can't believe you can watch tennis from the hotel. It is totally cool to watch your rivals and friends playing from your balcony."...)
Dude knows how to live.
https://www.gerryweber-open.de/en/news/article/der-sieg-muss-immer-das-ziel-sein-in-halle/ (the article is in English)
“Victory is always my aim in Halle”
RF-18
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oldmanfan
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Fedr's full pre-tourny presser. Short English section starts at 16:00.
Click link in tweet:
Click link in tweet:
TheIntrovert
Hall of Fame
I personally feel pretty confident in feds chances here. He’s playing great. And Novak isn’t
Good two minutes of him discussing the idiosyncrasies of grass and how to play successfully on it.
MeatTornado
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Don't be fooled by Novak.
He had a rough spring, but he bounced back nicely to win Madrid. Then he got absolutely screwed by scheduling at back-to-back tournaments in Rome/RG.
Expect him to be back with a vengeance at Wimbledon. Grass is a much better surface for him these days anyway, and with multiple roofs, scheduling/conditions won't be an issue.
TheIntrovert
Hall of Fame
He did get screwed but I still didn’t watch any match of his where I thought, okay, Novak is back. The Madrid final was the only one where I felt he was maybe back. But afterwards, he didn’t really impress. Grass is a better surface, but I’m still not convinced Novak Is the favourite.
Nostradamus
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https://www.atptour.com/en/news/federer-halle-2019-preview
maybe he is worried about novak or another big server like Anderson this year at Wimbledon ??
MeatTornado
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The fact that Schwartzman and Delpo played him so close in Rome and he still won scared me more than a straight demolition would've been. When the matches get close, he still goes into that eye of the tiger lockdown mode. And then he absolutely cruised through 5 rounds of RG before that mess of a SF against Thiem.
He did even less during last year's clay season and was still the best player at Wimbledon. So he'll have me on edge until he loses.
Lleytonstation
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Honestly, any of the big 3 could win it, any of them could be out before QF's. But I would be a rich man every time I thought this, so, who knows.
I am starting to think Fed needs Halle more than I originally thought. I feel if he gets the #2 seed, he will make the final and have a 60% chance of playing Djoker. I'll take those odds because that gives Fed about a 40% chance of winning Wimbledon.
If this happens Fed will reclaim the GOAT title since everyone caught him already apparently... oh wait... 20
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oldmanfan
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Fedr:
"The pressure is high for me too. The grass-court season is extremely short," said Federer. "There is not that much I can do to get into it as well, other than have that point-for-point mentality. [My] focus needs to be crystal clear and that is what I need to have from the get-go here as I play John Millman in the first round, who has been a tough one for me in the past."
"I think I look back [down] memory lane a little bit [here]," said Federer. "I see how many good moments I've had here, I see how much success I've had... The fan interaction [is special]. I feel like we know eachother, they know what they get from me and I know what to expect from them. It makes me feel really good and makes me play good tennis."
"I feel great, to be honest. I am happy to be on the grass, regardless of if I played good or bad on the clay, or if I didn't play at all," said Federer. "I always feel happy coming to this surface and this part of the season. I have always loved playing here in Halle for so many years. This is my 17th time playing this event."
"Compared to [the past] few years, I have had much less time to prepare for the grass-court season," said Federer. "Not having played the clay before [in 2017 and 2018], I had plenty of time. So, I don't want to say I feel stressed, but the transition was definitely faster than in the past few years."
"I was really positive about my clay-court swing. I lost against the best clay-court player ever [at Roland Garros], so there is no shame there," said Federer. "I tried everything I had and [we played in] unbelievably windy conditions. It was really challenging. I loved it actually, to play Rafa in that situation, the way it was. But I left [Paris] very positive."
"[Grass] highlights my strength and it maybe hides my weaknesses," said Federer. "From that standpoint, I can play how I want, on my terms, how I would like. When you feel that way, it is maybe what Rafa feels on the clay... I have all the options and when you have options, it gives you options to win and different tactics you can use against different players. That gives you maybe that little bit more margin you need to stay out of trouble and win matches."
Source:
https://www.atptour.com/en/news/federer-halle-2019-preview
"The pressure is high for me too. The grass-court season is extremely short," said Federer. "There is not that much I can do to get into it as well, other than have that point-for-point mentality. [My] focus needs to be crystal clear and that is what I need to have from the get-go here as I play John Millman in the first round, who has been a tough one for me in the past."
"I think I look back [down] memory lane a little bit [here]," said Federer. "I see how many good moments I've had here, I see how much success I've had... The fan interaction [is special]. I feel like we know eachother, they know what they get from me and I know what to expect from them. It makes me feel really good and makes me play good tennis."
"I feel great, to be honest. I am happy to be on the grass, regardless of if I played good or bad on the clay, or if I didn't play at all," said Federer. "I always feel happy coming to this surface and this part of the season. I have always loved playing here in Halle for so many years. This is my 17th time playing this event."
"Compared to [the past] few years, I have had much less time to prepare for the grass-court season," said Federer. "Not having played the clay before [in 2017 and 2018], I had plenty of time. So, I don't want to say I feel stressed, but the transition was definitely faster than in the past few years."
"I was really positive about my clay-court swing. I lost against the best clay-court player ever [at Roland Garros], so there is no shame there," said Federer. "I tried everything I had and [we played in] unbelievably windy conditions. It was really challenging. I loved it actually, to play Rafa in that situation, the way it was. But I left [Paris] very positive."
"[Grass] highlights my strength and it maybe hides my weaknesses," said Federer. "From that standpoint, I can play how I want, on my terms, how I would like. When you feel that way, it is maybe what Rafa feels on the clay... I have all the options and when you have options, it gives you options to win and different tactics you can use against different players. That gives you maybe that little bit more margin you need to stay out of trouble and win matches."
Source:
https://www.atptour.com/en/news/federer-halle-2019-preview
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
It's going to be an interesting shift as a fan, just as it is for him.
For the last 2 months it's been nothing but house money. All the wins and all the points were merely a bonus, with the overall goal of just staying healthy until the grass season. It was easy to be relaxed with no expectations.
But now the grass is suddenly here and he's expected to perform right away. And in the blink of an eye, the season will be over and we're back to hard courts. The pressure to win now is definitely real.
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Lleytonstation
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WTH told you play clay then Rog?
Because he loves the game. Even if it hurts his chances slightly, he loves playing the game and trying to beat the best on their best surface (knowing he probably wont).
Ann
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If slam count is the only thing that makes a tennis player happy then I guess all but 2 players present or past are suicidal. And you're delusional if you think playing clay hurt his chances at Wimbledon... they were slim to begin with and they're still slim.He'll love the game a *lot* after Nadal and Djokovic surpass his slam count within a year or two of his retirement.
I guess a boatload of $$$$$ can drown whatever professional sorrow he'll have to live with the rest of his life.
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I'm just quoting the man.... can't have it both ways!
On one hand there was his quote about how playing clay helps him 'swing better' and keep up with the competition. Now he thinks playing clay has made his transition short and thus increases the pressure.
In any case I think Roger will have to suffer the same fate as Sampras in the history books. Same stubbornness, same result.
Lleytonstation
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If they do pass his slam total, and that is a HUGE if and has not happened yet. At the end of the day, he gave it his all, and if it falls short (which to me it cant at this point), then so be it.He'll love the game a *lot* after Nadal and Djokovic surpass his slam count within a year or two of his retirement.
I guess a boatload of $$$$$ can drown whatever professional sorrow he'll have to live with the rest of his life.
However, I guarantee Fed did not start playing tennis for this slam race, and he sure is not still playing simply for slams. One of the reasons I am a die hard Fed fan is because I love his passion for the game not numbers. You can see it on the court and off the court in interviews.
Ann
Hall of Fame
Big deal.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
I dont get what you are getting at. Fed is about to be 38 (5 to 6 years older than Djoker and Rafa), of course they are going to be doing better right now, but can they keep it up. Everybody just assumes Djoker and Rafa will get 20 or more. That is a lack of respect for winning slams, and if that is the case, are these numbers really that important then?
Even at 20 or 21 for Rafa, I like Feds resume better, now if Djoker rolls off 5 more, that would be much tougher on the soul, but Fed has done more for the game.
Plus it is not like Rafa has been owning Fed, it has been the other way around for 6 years now, including their one slam final...
Ann
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I've been watching tennis for 45 years. I have probably had 10 faves over the years.. never have I concerned myself with slam counts or the made up "GOAT" title. That's a product/disease of this place. When I was rooting for Johnny Mac, not ever did I think "he's the greatest player of all time" all I ever thought is "Go Johnny". This place takes the fun out of everything. Sometimes I wonder if 90% of the posters here even like tennis, I wonder if their whole raison d'etre is just to root for someone that's favored to win because it makes them feel better about themselves.
BTW... does Johnny Mac, Chris Evert, Andre Agassi, Martina Navratilova..... seem like they spend all their free time wallowing in misery because they never owned the slam title?
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Who said that? and why are you quoting it in replying to me?
Did I say that? - all Nadal needs to do is win a couple more...
Setting up your own strawman and knocking him down..
Whatever rationalization pleases you after Roger is overtaken... I'm upfront in saying he'd rather not and he could have ensured it had he been less stubborn about a bunch of things... (another long post for another day)
Well, why **** with something good if you have a good thing going? Could've easily tanked to Wawa and let him lose to Rafa... could've gotten the clay 'experience' and gotten off without losing the mental advantage.
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Ann
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I don't even know how to respond, that has nothing to do with what I posted. I'm out.
Ann
Hall of Fame
Thanks for being obnoxiously contrary and a complete waste of my time. Last time I bother with you.
BeatlesFan
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No they don't.
Lleytonstation
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You are contradicting yourself everywhere, either that or we just need to agree to disagree. All I can say is I am a Fed fan for many reasons, and the slam count is not one of them, it is a perk that comes with it.
This all started with Fed playing clay, and all I am saying is that I am glad he did because I got to watch him play clay again. It was fun, and worth it considering I personally, do not think it will make a difference at Wimbledon, and if so, it is only slightly.
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